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Getting Started with Hand Saws // Total beginner, hand tool woodworking. 

Rex Krueger
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It's easy to buy handsaws for your woodwork, but you need a know a few things before you buy.
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0:00 Intro
0:21 The First Saw
1:15 Medium Tool
2:24 Big & Aggressive
4:31 Pitch & Teeth
7:25 Workbench Sessions
8:33 Sizes
10:30 Going Vintage
13:25 Something New
15:38 Outro

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@davidweiser9406
@davidweiser9406 2 года назад
I have one of those 4 TPI rip saws. I can confirm it is a genuine monster. I don't know how I ever lived without it.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 2 года назад
That's pretty cool that you have Mr. Underhill himself coming in live. I wish it was in my budget to support the channel, but with a household income under $800/month, it just isn't doable. Have fun, all of you guys and gals who get to join in. Congrats. Yeah, if it wasn't for yard sales and flea markets, and tree servicing companies I wouldn't be able to enjoy woodworking myself. A 10-15 dollar tool here (restorable if course), a free log there, and a thrown out piece of furniture, when I find one, for up-cycled wood... and even the broke guy can have a hobby. Even if most of what I make is just gifts for family. It can be a relaxing time to get out and build something. And there is no rush, as I am disabled and can't work a real job any more, I can't take on jobs for money because I can't promise a time line to complete a task. I work in the shop when I can, with what ever wood species I can scrounge up. Edit: I can get Walnut oil and mineral oil on my food budget, so, with a little bee's wax those are my main finishes. (I have a couple of buddies who raise bees for honey, so I can get a decent amount of wax from them at a trade for building hive boxes and trays or wooden bowls and honey dippers from my lathe.
@geirkselim2697
@geirkselim2697 2 года назад
Lathes are better than money anyway.
@cbobcheck
@cbobcheck 2 года назад
Never forget that money is merely a medium of exchange, meaning that even if you are cash poor you probably have something of value to exchange that isn't money, i.e. time, skill, knowledge, products, access, etc. So, if you're frequenting yard sales etc, take some small pieces with you for exchange. Or even gather enough to get your own booth. Even better, for almost no money you can start an etsy or other online sellers account. Just put what you have and there are no wories about deadlines etc. What is important is o know what you do well, who your potential customer is, pricing, and having multiple streams of profit. Knowing your value can be the hardest. As in, how much your labor should add to the cost of something your selling. Me, i add $20/hr because my skill level is not great, not bad, but not the best i=either. I've found a good way to price is: price = 2*(cost of item+cost of materials)+ 20*(hours of labor). I use this unless it's a notable piece or something very collectible. And, if you're into tool restoration, that can be a great way to make some cash. I use ecectrolysis for rust rmeoval and have saved a ton on wd-40 and chemical costs. Search youtube for tutorials. There is an almost literal goldmine of furniture tools etc out there on the secondhand market (just yesterday i picked up an original plycraft chair at goodwill for $20 needing almost no restoration, look up the cost of one of those and know that'll cover my bills for a couple months) ia Good luck to you sir, and don't let pessimism, inertia and excuses stop you from living the life your potential allows.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 2 года назад
@@cbobcheck thanks, yeah, I've thought about most of those things myself. I just don't get enough time in the shop to keep an etsy store stocked with my disabilities including chronic pain and fatigue. The lathe requires attention and I won't turn it on when I'm not having one of my best days. It's not worth risking injury, same with other power tools. So, on my average days that I feel up to getting into the shop at all, hand tools are my only option, and I fatigue quickly still, lots of breaks. I also like to work on hand made quilts when I am stuck in my recliner in the house, but almost no one will pay for what that hand crafted labor costs, so they end up as gifts to family who appreciates and respects the effort. The general public doesn't understand why a truly hand made/hand stitched quilt should cost $2k and up with the skill and time that goes into it. (One queen sized quilt can take a single person around six months from first cut to final stitch working on it every day, eight hours a day to make completely by hand with no machine stitching. I have been working on my twin sized (full topper) quilt for a few years now when I feel up to it, with no machine work. It is almost done with stitch in the ditch quilting, then add the border and edging and it will be complete, so probably another year at my pace. It will not be for sale, and will be a family heirloom. The main field has 327 pieces of bright solids and blacks, mostly assorted sized triangles. (Design I found online from around 2005 I believe, something to do with gems.) I work on the large quilt between smaller projects like machine made table runners and place mats, purses and insulated shopping bags, and stuff like that as gifts for the ladies in the family that aren't into wooden bowls and candle sticks. I thought about getting wine bottle stopper kits for the lathe, but those take money I don't have to spare, so maybe in the future. I'm looking at getting into driving uber as a part time income, if I can.
@martydom666
@martydom666 3 месяца назад
Same here man.
@mtmaniacs
@mtmaniacs 22 дня назад
Been collecting hand saws now for about 7 years. Have about 150 of all kinds, Ryoba, panel, miter, ice, 2 handed and 2 man. Some are in nice shape but a lot are "as found" and I just recently started restoring some of them. My biggest challenge is finding all the screws needed for the handles. I've also made some cases to store the panel saws and have most of the large saws hanging on my shop walls. It's a fairly inexpensive hobby that always provides opportunities for work, when I'm looking.
@charlesward8196
@charlesward8196 2 года назад
I was gifted a deeply pitted 8-pt hand saw with a badly spalted handle. It was liberating because I could not ruin the saw. I ditched the bad handle and replaced it, did a vinegar soak on the plate, jointed it pretty hard and filed it for a crosscut. I use it to cut rough wood, anything that has been exposed to dirt or dust or paint or cement, etc. It cuts well, sharpens quickly, and I don’t have to feel bad about using it on recycled wood. ALSO IT WAS A GREAT SAW TO PRACTICE MY FILING TECHNIQUE ON.
@nonickname1957
@nonickname1957 5 месяцев назад
Concur on starting with a saw you are not afraid of damaging. The first handsaw I ever sharpened was a Wal-Mart miter saw that would not cut when brand new, not even quarter round trim. A hacksaw, although a poor miter saw, worked far better. When I finished my first sharpening, the miter saw's teeth felt appreciably sharper, but it still did not cut. So, I purchased a saw set, set the teeth, and it sliced through trim effortlessly, and 2x4s with little effort! If I had owned a fine handsaw, I would have been loath to risk taking files, and a saw set, to it. But I had no compunction about doing so with literally the cheapest miter saw Wal Mart sells, and so found out that saw sharpening, and setting was a skill I could learn.
@criswilson1140
@criswilson1140 2 года назад
A few months ago I picked up 5 panel saws and 5 carcass saws for $2 a piece off of FB marketplace. Spent about 2 hours cleaning up each saw and handle, another hour per saw sharpening the crosscuts, and about 3 hours per saw converting 5 of them to rip teeth. It wasn't that much work, was cheap to do, and very relaxing. I'm giving the extra saws to my nephew for Christmas since he has just starting woodworking.
@flyball1788
@flyball1788 2 года назад
Whilst not all are fine-woodworkers, I'd like to give a shout out to all those everyday chippies (British slang for carpenter) of my youth (1970s) most of whom used these hand tools. A great family friend (my best mate's dad) was one of these and worked nearly every day for 30+ years on building sites mostly constructing (and prancing about on) roofs and he could wield a handsaw like a master. Typically used any sharp box-store saw and could get through a 2x6 in 3-4 strokes either at 90o or any appropriate compound or simple angle, usually by eye and using any available part of the roof, wall or his knee as a bench. I would swear blind that these guys could do this stuff quicker than lugging any power tool around. Give him a hammer and some 6" nails, which he could hit home, dead straight, in 2 swings (3 for an awkward angle) and he could frame a roof in < 1 day (saw him do it). It wasn't fine woodworking, but these people had serious skills with hand tools.
@charlesbowen194
@charlesbowen194 2 года назад
I bought a crosscut hand saw the other day that was manufactured by Disston, according to the medallion it was manufactured between 1917 and 1942. There aren't any teeth missing and is sharp...very sharp. It's in really good shape, someone took good care of it. Oh and the price I paid for it in the pawn shop was only $8.
@giusepperesponte8077
@giusepperesponte8077 2 года назад
The 4 tpi hand saw is what I had growing up. It was my grandpa’s saw, he actually modified a higher tpi saw to get 4 tpi and honestly I hated using it because I was really young and didn’t have the power to start that aggressive cut efficiently. One time my brother asked me to cut some 2x4s and I was taking a long time to do it, the saw kept bowing when I tried to push it, he got irritated with me and didn’t let me help anymore. I never wanted to use the push saw again. That is probably the reason I like pull saws now. Every time I use a push saw to this day it brings up those feelings of inadequacy 😂
@divyabirsingh2905
@divyabirsingh2905 2 года назад
The Most underrated carpentry youtube channel out there. I love your work and the dedication to your job.
@AMTunLimited
@AMTunLimited 2 года назад
Fun fact: the ppi vs tpi confusion is called a "fencepost problem" in computer science (as in "how many fenceposts for a fence of n length")
@marcmedeiros8857
@marcmedeiros8857 2 года назад
Rex - you are truly a gifted entertainer/educator! Thank you for your time and effort in this channel. I find myself always excited to see how the videos go!
@paulmaryon9088
@paulmaryon9088 2 года назад
Done it again Rex, brilliant vid thanks, just gotten into Japanese saws, (been a woodworker for 40+ yrs) and I love them, always keep one in my toolbag. Thanks again keep safe and well
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 2 года назад
So Peter is first. So what.😜 It doesn't count unless you have something to contribute. Rex, thank you for this one. I didn't know about the TPI vs PPI designation. I remember my father sharpening hand saws. He learned from his father who was a carpenter in the 1930's to 1950's. Unfortunately none of the attraction to hand tools rubbed off on me. I am pretty much a power tool guy. But I am fascinated by guys like you and Roy Underhill. I got to meet Roy on the set of his show when I lived in NC in the 1980's. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
@zachearley1906
@zachearley1906 2 года назад
I always look forward to the new videos
@rojirrim7298
@rojirrim7298 2 года назад
Damn, thanks for including that last part for countries where you can't really get cheap good old saws. I'm probably going to buy the bahco right away!
@AMTunLimited
@AMTunLimited 2 года назад
I would disagree that the projects you do dictate which saws you should use. I would rather say that your workholding options have much more of an impact. You can definitely make American-style pieces with all japanese tools, but you're going to have a rough time if you only have workholding for pushing.
@josephs2581
@josephs2581 2 года назад
💯 it's no coincidence that early saws were pull saws, and early workbenches were low workbenches. Ancient Egyptians had pull saws and so did Europeans for a long time. Push saws required better steel and heavier workholding, and there's a lot of articles out there about how pull saws are awkward to use until you're standing over your work. either one can make excellent pieces of furniture.
@daveclemmer4536
@daveclemmer4536 2 года назад
I would agree that the direction you want to go with in the style and technique of your woodworking, which includes your environment, work holding options, and working positions has the most impact on the type of tools you should choose. If you want to make Japanese (or Western) furniture using traditional Japanese methods, then of course go with Japanese style tools, etc.
@MatthewBuntyn
@MatthewBuntyn 2 года назад
I bought a Civil War era 4 ppi Disston No. 7 at a MWTCA meetup a few years ago. I finally cleaned and sharpened it last year, and it's now my go to rip saw
@hdwoodshop
@hdwoodshop 2 года назад
Great video Rex. Love the format
@lynnbryant9866
@lynnbryant9866 2 года назад
I've had my (identical) Craftsman dial caliper since 1978! Still measures perfectly and operates flawlessly. Marvelous. Timely video, too, as always. Well done, Sir!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 года назад
Bought mine from the estate of a sheet metal fabricator. Flawless tool.
@brycetowle5430
@brycetowle5430 5 месяцев назад
My grandpa bought craftsman stuff for years and all the old tools that he bought still work very well for me years later. Surprisingly good stuff for the price
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 2 года назад
That saw from the trash is quite a beauty. Jealous.
@ricardomagnificent
@ricardomagnificent 2 года назад
Great video. Loads of useful information.
@uncut_cowboy
@uncut_cowboy 2 года назад
You're great Rex, thank you
@revbharvey5046
@revbharvey5046 2 года назад
Thanks for this video Rex. I've been given a couple of saws but have never really understood how to use them. I'm now pretty confident that my panel saw is set up for ripping and my other saw is for cross cutting. And I love your thought about cutting rough and then using a plane. I can't cut straight for love or money, so that might help me. Cheers.
@AdrianDecaux
@AdrianDecaux 2 года назад
I bought your book and is awesome, thanks!
@jerrystark3587
@jerrystark3587 2 года назад
Good stuff, as always. Thanks!
@darodes
@darodes 10 месяцев назад
Rex I’ve been on the lookout for some vintage saws since watching this video a year ago and I’m happy to say I just found a steal! Guy was selling 10 of them at a garage sale and gave me the whole set for $20! I’m gonna examine each and see which ones I like best to refurbish and use! I just wanted to say thank you so much for your content!
@bobdmighty
@bobdmighty 2 года назад
This is so helpful! Thanks, Rex!
@nobuckle40
@nobuckle40 2 года назад
Great information Rex. Thanks.
@batman7035
@batman7035 2 года назад
Those steps look great!
@TheMarchada
@TheMarchada 2 года назад
Finally some info on resharpenable bahco, for whatever reason they are dirt cheap in my country, something like 12 bucks, so I might buy 2 and have this problem sorted out. Thank you Rex, your videos are always helpful
@chadwickpainter8212
@chadwickpainter8212 2 года назад
Another great video man. I bought the harbor freight "Japanese saw". I really like it and use it often. It isn't the greatest saw but it was $10 and it is good for cuts that I don't need to be super smoothe. It gets through the whitewood I've been using fairly well. I rough in my tenons with it and it seems to do pretty good. I plan to get a better one in the future but for now this is doing a good job. A lot of folks use them for cutting branches and I suppose that's what I will use mine for when I replace it. Thanks for the video.
@Tiger313NL
@Tiger313NL 2 года назад
A pal of mine used a cloth and some diesel to wipe off surface rust off a piece of steel. Worked like a charm. :)
@douglashopkins8070
@douglashopkins8070 2 года назад
Good video as usual. I managed to find a 4 tpi saw, oddly it was a cross cut. I resharpened it as a rip saw. I highly recommend a the course rip saw idea. Huge change.
@BadAppleWoodwerx
@BadAppleWoodwerx 2 года назад
Thanks for the vid Rex, looking forward to the next saw video on joinery saws. This is a big topic for me right now because I currently own zero hand saws and have been looking to start gathering them. - Tim
@charlesbrousseau3988
@charlesbrousseau3988 2 года назад
congrats on hosting Roy Underhill!
@user-qg6fy4yp8t
@user-qg6fy4yp8t 2 года назад
Great video!!!
@aaronlandry3947
@aaronlandry3947 2 года назад
That old saw that is "Close to the end of it's life" is only at the end of it's life as a Long blade saw... you can just shorten the saw and now you have many many more years of life left!
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 2 года назад
Cut and convert the plate to a brass backed saw and/or card scrapers. Always works for me when I find an old saw for $10 or less but it is too warped for a hand or panel saw or missing too many teeth. Always need more scraper plate. They sell pretty good. And a good saw plate is great for making dovetail or gent saws.
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 2 года назад
@@thomasarussellsr Good thoughts, Thomas! I have an old blade from one of those fancy mitre saws that I should put a spine on.
@SpookyMcGhee
@SpookyMcGhee 2 года назад
3:22 I have a Disston rip saw that looks exactly like that... Well... except for a shiny, refurbished handle and a nicely cleaned up and freshly sharpened blade... It was my grandfather's saw and my first attempt at restoring a hand saw. I've done lots of planes, but never a saw until now.
@juanramonzapata6297
@juanramonzapata6297 2 года назад
That's the best hand saw I ever see it The Japanese saw. Also is so good that you can use To turn the burgers when grilling And to clean the grill, amazing I highly recommend it
@Dseated
@Dseated 2 года назад
I bought a ryoba off of one of your videos years ago and quickly got a fine tooth saw to compliment it.
@NAH1907
@NAH1907 2 года назад
Thank you for this video
@grzesiektg
@grzesiektg 2 года назад
yay. lucky me! My first bought saw was intuitively Ryoba and surprisingly from Bahco :)
@daveclemmer4536
@daveclemmer4536 2 года назад
Nice overview! I would add that the thickness of stock a woodworker usually works with has an impact on an ideal choice of handsaws. A 6pt or less saw is more difficult to use on 1/2 inch or thinner stock.
@RatedRWoodturning
@RatedRWoodturning 2 года назад
The bahco saws are pretty legit. Even the hard point ones
@ivan55599
@ivan55599 Год назад
l've heard (but not yet tested by myself) a hypothesis, that you can sharpen hardpoint saws - but before that you must heat-treat them by swinging teeth with a lighter to get hardness off. Then you can file them.
@kccool75
@kccool75 2 года назад
Restored an old disston alot like the one your neighbor threw out only thing I lacked was a saw vise so I just put some wood scraps bout 14" long in a 4" desk vise worked fine found mine covered in rust against an I beam in a chemical plant
@harukamylove1
@harukamylove1 2 года назад
Love your videos and was excited about this one! Please enable English captions so I can learn tooooo!
@Woodys_Workshop
@Woodys_Workshop 2 года назад
Hi Rex! Good video on saws! Stuff everyone use be taught in mandatory Junior High Industrial Arts Shop Class, now a days not available! Just wanted to point out that Shop Fox makes the perfect dial caliper for wood workers. Dial has 2 scales, thousandths and fractional down to the 64ths. I got mine 20 years ago at a wood working show for $20. Today they are $50, but worth every penny. Even though I haven't done much wood working in the past 5 years, I still use it and comes in handy as it is a very accurate depth gauge as well.
@sleazy1drache
@sleazy1drache 2 года назад
Looking forward to a new saw restoration video 😉
@Vincent-S
@Vincent-S 2 года назад
Love my 14 tpi crosscut, 7 tpi rip ryoba. Just about coarse enough for taking down stock and making fineish cuts. Also love my new(old) 15 tpi 8” Keen Kutter dovetail saw though. I do need to fix up the teeth a little though. Still working on the S&J tenon saw too! And dat veritas shooting plane tho
@wowzers64333
@wowzers64333 Год назад
Got a miter box with a regular saw and a circular saw but the only one I'm actually using is the miter box with the regular saw. I don't regret it and I'll be getting all sizes and styles to go with my power tools because they are so efficient.
@CitizenAyellowblue
@CitizenAyellowblue 2 года назад
Got 2 Bahco saws for 5$ each. One for xcut one for rip. Excellent saws. Old ones turned into card scrapers.
@riccardo-964
@riccardo-964 2 года назад
I'll give you an idea for another video on this (thank me later): how about "converting" a cross-cut (not a modern one with reinforced teeth, the older ones, the ones you could re-sharpen) into a RIP cut? I would like to know how to do that! Thanks for the video!
@bakerzermatt
@bakerzermatt 5 месяцев назад
Old video, but talking about low ppi saws, I have a 3 1/2 rip saw. It's a beast at about 27" long, and it's not easy to use, but it's fast.
@jimcarter4929
@jimcarter4929 2 года назад
Rex by the look of it those old hand saws could benefit from some time in that beautiful vise. Come on man.
@PrimalEdge
@PrimalEdge 2 года назад
cutting edge stuff
@MikeAlexandersen
@MikeAlexandersen 2 года назад
Oh wow, I never realized there were different saws for ripping and cross-cut. I'm surprised I didn't learn that in shop class.
@joespilman7333
@joespilman7333 2 года назад
Great video tks
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 2 года назад
Just downloaded your saw vise plans, very good indeed, nice detail. Obviously, I'll complain once I've ruined my fourth attempt at making.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 года назад
Really fantastic tips, Rex! Thanks a lot! 😃 Personally, I prefer Japanese saws. But that's because both my shoulders have issues, so they hurt a LOT if I try to use western saws... But I guess it depends on each and every one. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@martinnielsen5851
@martinnielsen5851 2 года назад
Also: With the ryoba-saw, you can see the cut while working. That isn't possible with a western style saw. I can do both, but for the difficult stuff, i use the ryoba.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 года назад
@@martinnielsen5851 Well... It's been a long time since I last used a western saw, so I don't remember... But about the ryoba you're absolutely correct! 😊
@Ramplcro
@Ramplcro 2 года назад
Got just the rioba now. Next (personal) step- Cheap jigsaw (with diy fences) for ruff work, rioba for the backup and medium cuts and more expensive 1 or 2 saws for detail/precision work.
@Borescoped
@Borescoped 2 года назад
Rex, have you done a video on Greene and Greene boxes/joinery before? I can’t remember. If you haven’t, would you consider doing a video for a box in the Greene & Greene style?
@aussieguiri8502
@aussieguiri8502 2 года назад
Pax do a 4.5 tpi 24" rip saw. Just bought it with the hope that it will become my go-to saw for stock prep..
@justinwoods240
@justinwoods240 2 года назад
I’ve seen up to 2 tpi hand saws at a flea market few weeks ago should of grabbed it lol
@martydom666
@martydom666 3 месяца назад
I just found a stanley 55 planer missing left fence but has 48 blades also found a stanley 100 mitre saw and base. Also got a a nice tabletop( jig saw for sale). Lol
@howardjones543
@howardjones543 2 года назад
Useful video, thanks! Funny that you mentioned that your book is back in stock - I just got a fresh note from Amazon UK that it's still out of stock with no delivery date today, since June! :-) Congratulations on struggling to keep them on shelves!
@adrienrenaux6211
@adrienrenaux6211 2 года назад
I feel like using imperial measurements for saw pitch in europe is a modern thing, since now most hand tool information comes from the anglo saxon countries. If you look at more "really" europeans saws and old books, you usually see it written as the distance in mm between two teeth (unless they're REALLY old books, like Roubo, then it's the distance in "lignes", which is the old measurement in france)
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 2 года назад
One saw? Choose Ryoba. Has a built in cheat code giving you two saws 😅
@roxandarveau6188
@roxandarveau6188 2 года назад
I fund a progressive pitch 2.5 to 3.5 tpi rip saw but it was to corse so i reteethed it to a 4 tpi progressive pitch and it is a dream to used
@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa
@QuacGiaNgoVietCongHoa 2 года назад
The victorian sytle saw pieces were forged. The modern saw pieces are stamped from sheet medal.
@mwheels3384
@mwheels3384 2 года назад
Hi, I recently restored and turned an antique Disston rip cut saw into a cross cut saw. Seems to be working fine, but Im getting negative feed back from friends about it. Oh well! Any objections from you or viewers? It was really difficult to find a an antique rip cut. I think it was a fine idea, folks have been modifying tools since the first tool, and its not like I modified or ruined a 10k saw, it was $15 bucks at an antique store. Thanks in advance
@theeddorian
@theeddorian 2 года назад
Just a minor thing. I think the point on the tooth of a cross cut saw actually picks up the fiber, the "knife edge" along the leading aspect of the tooth does the actual cutting of the fiber. That said, one aggravation of used hand saws is how uncommon crosscuts are compared to rip saws. That might be because crosscuts are typical pretty fast, but ripping is slower. There's a long discussion and lots of argument about tpi vs wood types. I use my crosscuts for breaking large stock to approximate lengths, ripping happens various ways depending on the material and the length.
@marknahabedian1803
@marknahabedian1803 2 года назад
The video doesn't mention the distinction between cutting on the pull stroke versus cutting on the push stroke. A pull saw needs to have a thicker plate (and thus cut a wider kerf) so it won't bend on the stroke. The plate of a pull saw is in tension during the cut so will stay straight. In most activities pulling is more stable than pushing. If you pull a grocery cart you can do so with one finger and don't even need to think about steering it. Front wheel drive cars are safer under slippery conditions than rear wheel drive cars. This is why we have the old adage "don't put the cart before the horse." I think the learning time for making straight cuts is significantly less with a pull saw. I don't do much woodworking and my projects are simple, but getting a pull saw made sawing a lot easier for me. Another tool that helped a lot was a magnetic saw guide. I have poor eyesight and can barely see a pencil line well enough to follow it. The guide holds the saw on track without me having to look or think. I recently had to make a circular cut in a sheet of aluminum with a jewelers saw and couldn't follow my line even with such a slow, fine tooth saw.
@denver6011
@denver6011 2 года назад
Awesome video, the wife and I are getting into woodworking as a fun hobby together and your videos have been great. Curious have you ever made a easel for a large whiteboard? I've been trying to find a good setup for one but so far i cant find anything really well detailed?
@janee7995
@janee7995 2 года назад
Bought some Japanese saws in western style (shark saw (pro)) Went for 9,14,19 tpi. Oak is no problem at all.
@joshwalker5605
@joshwalker5605 2 года назад
if you have a saw plate thats getting close to end of its life, something to do is chop the old plate up into cabinet scrapers.
@CzKaa
@CzKaa 2 года назад
In case of Japanese saws, will be good to say - they are pull saws! I like Japanese saws, because kerf is thin as blade, less material must be removed and pull saw is better for precision cut. It is easy to cut in perfect straight for example plywood sheet. :)
@richardcrookes1507
@richardcrookes1507 2 года назад
Aw :( Amazon just told me I’m not getting your book yet again. That’s a shame, but at least I have a great video to watch! Thanks!
@scottrowlings5345
@scottrowlings5345 2 года назад
Really hoping you’re going to a video or two on sharpening hand saws (pretty please???)
@b4ux1t3-tech
@b4ux1t3-tech 2 года назад
Went to go look up a Bahco saw. Found a review: "They just don't make them like this anymore. . ." _They're literally reviewing a product that is made right now._
@tobins6800
@tobins6800 2 года назад
Don't forget flea markets. I bought a hand saw for $2 and it was brand new.dont have many details on it, it's kinda buried in the garage at the moment.
@pacco205
@pacco205 2 года назад
Yaaaaa Roy
@plfreeman111
@plfreeman111 2 года назад
"...Roy Underhill" Literal jaw drop.
@mariushegli
@mariushegli 2 года назад
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
@justinwoods240
@justinwoods240 2 года назад
I’ve learned over the past year or 2 that you don’t need a saw vice. I’ve never owned one and I’ve held back to sharpening because I thought I needed one and I did it one day on my machinist vice and that’s all you need
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 2 года назад
Yes, two slabs of thickish plywood on each side and pop the sandwich in the vice. Fiddly but it works.
@richs5422
@richs5422 2 года назад
@@johnfisk811 My "machinist" vice has a square-ish bottom rod, so I cut rectangular notches in the plywood pieces. Keeps them in place. Easy peasy.
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 2 года назад
@@richs5422 Good plan. The simplest ideas are usually the best. As an aside I just bought 5 pre 1950 handsaws plus a small wooden smoothing plane, skewed wooden rabbet plane, assorted old spoon gimlets and a couple of files for £20 this week, so stuff is still out there.
@yibozhu
@yibozhu 2 года назад
Many ways to sharpen those unshaprenable saws. I.e you can put the saw on the stove, heat it and let it cool down naturally. Or you can buy those "diamond" coated files to deal with those saws.
@arkansasboy45
@arkansasboy45 2 года назад
Hey Rex, this is a great, informative video. I am wondering if I need to change the configuration of a saw from, say rip to criss-cut, do I have to hammer the set teeth first then re-set them after I make the change or just leave the set alone?
@brannonsimera764
@brannonsimera764 2 года назад
Week 1 of leaving a comment just to help with the algorithm
@johncarey9149
@johncarey9149 2 года назад
No mention of setting the teeth? Yeah, it's a big subject ... 😃 Thanks for another great video Rex
@satibel
@satibel 2 года назад
What are your thoughts on bow saws? They are fairly easy to make and blades are fairly cheap, plus if you have a diamond tipped metal drill bit you can repurpose broken bandsaws
@Hanshaw11
@Hanshaw11 Год назад
I had no idea that Jo Koy was a carpenter in his spare time...lol
@Psittacus_erithacus
@Psittacus_erithacus 2 года назад
Geat content as always. Could have used some example shots/images of "surface" vs "problem" rust. If one is just getting started with restoration of metal tools-this isn't always obvious. So examples might be worth the extra effort/edit time in this particular case. Regardless, thanks again for the educational content!
@Dseated
@Dseated 2 года назад
Can you take one of the saws you already own but don't use very often and cut new tpi profile?
@AMTunLimited
@AMTunLimited 2 года назад
Rex, this is a weird question, bit is that a spoonmaker's drawknife hanging behind you?
@cheryliverson6327
@cheryliverson6327 2 года назад
I would like to ask about making british campaign furniture. What is your fewest basic tools to get started. Has that changed?
@paulhoward1800
@paulhoward1800 2 года назад
Then again, you can get a brand new Stanley 15-300 for $8. It's resharpenable, great saw to dimension lumber with. Did I mention it's only $8?
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 2 года назад
I'd never heard of the points per inch measure, and I must say, it's kinda stupid. It's a good example of the so-called fencepost problem familiar to mathematicians: do you count both first and last fenceposts when reckoning the number of fenceposts per unit length? No, just one or the other. The "points per inch" measure doesn't tell you how many teeth there are per unit measure, but rather the number of teeth per unit measure plus one. You might as well say that there are thirteen inches in a foot, if you count all the lines. Sorry for the rant. Great work as usual. I'm a musical instrument maker in Vienna, and I get by pretty well with only Japanese saws. But as you say, they all work. Greetings from sunny Vienna, Scott
@themoops.
@themoops. Год назад
now nobody owns the old saws anymore because i have them all, well sixteen of them anyway😁
@Cigokar
@Cigokar 2 года назад
Shite, I missed the premiere. I've shamed my family for the next 7 generations
@aloseman
@aloseman 2 года назад
For the algorithm!
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