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Gevi 4-in-1 Smart Pour-over Coffee Machine: geni.us/iB5Biyh
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Gevi has been making coffee equipment since 2017, but this crowdfunded Indiegogo project is their first attempt to enter into the specialty coffee market. The 4-in-1 smart pour-over coffee machine has impressive flow control and programmability, but is it truly the Decent Espresso of pour over? We find out in this review, where we'll compare the original prototype with the final production version!
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Physical Differences
3:16 - Performance / Workflow Differences
7:25 - Should you buy it?

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22 янв 2022

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@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Gevi 4-in-1 Smart Pour-over Coffee Machine: geni.us/iB5Biyh First video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E8F1aTRGBYM.html (As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases)

@MorganWhaley 2 года назад

Very intriguing. Thanks for the great video.

@alaskavaper966 2 года назад

Excellent job.

@dabidramen 2 года назад

Would love them to make a cheaper version that just allows for auto pour-overs. Perfect for us coffee geeks who have grinders and have significant others who don’t want to go through the “hassle” of making a pour over themselves in the morning. :)

@robojimtv Год назад

Yes a 2-in-1 that does just the boiling and dripping would be nice. Though I guess the scale can be placed under the flow head.

@peterbernhard6087 Год назад

The Melitta Epour is kind of a cheaper option :D Looking for it i landed here.

@saulcruz 11 месяцев назад

this comment ^^ that's the only reason I ended up going with a Breville grind control (drip coffee)... I love pour-over coffee so I hope one day Gevi can develop a full automatic pour over machine and wake up in the morning with my pour-over coffee ready. The Melitta Epour is a great attempt but it does not have a built-in grinder :( so it defeats the purpose of having a machine (I'd rather use my chemex)

@0whitestone 9 месяцев назад

I agree, that would be awesome. I don't think that Decent group will want to use the grinder.

@edipisreks5535 2 года назад

It’s wonderful that they have listened and improved the product, and honestly I think it looks pretty good for what it is! I still think this is a solution in search of a problem. I have my wife using the Encore and Bonavita I got her, and she sometimes even uses a gooseneck and a V60. This wouldn’t make life any easier for her. In fact, the electronics would make her much less likely to use it: she like analog. Would anybody who cares about any of the variables want to use an automated machine? I know this is addressed in the video, I just don’t see this as having the same utility as an automatic/dork computer pour-over.

@quazster 2 года назад

Totally agree with this. Would bet that most people that actually understand all these variables get more enjoyment in controlling through monkey action. In my opinion can't compare to Sage stuff as the people buying those tend to prefer milk drinks and a so-so base coffee, as long as strong enough, is ok to have a drinkable latte for example.

@retusrieben6487 2 года назад

I am that kind of decent person… xD but i would love just the pour-over thingy as a stand alone… no grinder, no scale since I have both already. I must say I really love both extremes: the one where I have full control by doing everything by myself(in terms of espresso that would be a lever machine) and being able to play around ultra precise with those parameters. But absolute no go on that machine here is that it still has no possibility to get firmware upgrades, with a touchscreen, animations and probably endless possibilities to make pour overs that’s a shame…

@robojimtv Год назад

As someone who likes to tinker but gets lazy about taking notes on the process, the ability to save a recipe right after making it is actually pretty cool. Myself I'd like a simpler version without the grinder as mentioned by a different comment. So just a water boiler and automatic pourer and probably move the scale to be under the pourer.

@stevemb0 Год назад

My concern was longevity, especially as a few issues with some early units. However, I have used this twice a day for over a year and it delivers every time consistently. Grinder is well suited to pourover. I set up a 5 step pulse pour and it hits the spot every time. The brew never stalls and level bed every time. I use a V60 above a Hario insulated jug, the No. 2 jug fits perfectly, the No.3 fits as well - moves the bed closer to the spouts, probably better for heat loss. After bloom I do the Hoffmann swirl and once the last pour, another swirl. Every brew finishes within seconds of each other and you just let it do it’s thing.

@xtianb7035 Год назад

what grind setting do you use for the v60?

@stevemb0 Год назад

@@xtianb7035 17 or 18

@shawncapser3352 2 года назад

Their is a tool called Quality Function Deployment (QFD) that would have helped them with ensuring customer requirements are appropriately addressed with well-defined critical-to-quality (CTQ) characteristics. This would also help with identifying further areas of innovation.

@slofty 2 года назад

OK, Wharton.

@stevehuang4553 2 года назад

I am the original backer too, do like the machine a lot. Used it almost everyday. However recently the water spigot start giving me gear box noise when it spins, a little worried about the longevity.

@emersonmsd 2 года назад

Sounds good, I need to go back to your original video but I think you were impressed with the grinding. As a good grinder was going to be my next upgrade that's about half of what this costs. Great video 👍

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Grinder performed quite well for pour over! 60mm flat burrs, vertically mounted 👍

@emersonmsd 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ watching your first video again now😀 Did they add a USB port?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

No, still no way for future software updates unfortunately

@emersonmsd 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ 😱 700€ maybe I should just get a X54 or a Uniform as I have the Sage Precision brewer. 🤔

@ericanderson1753 2 года назад

@@emersonmsd Lagom Mini.

@DanielBlomqvist 2 года назад

Still no firmware upgrades? That is my biggest issue and what keeps it from becoming the Decent of pour-over.

@hantla 7 месяцев назад

How do you clean the burr grinder? Have you tried?

@needmorebeans 2 года назад

I'd love to see this compared next to a Breville Precision Brewer

@josephteifer9714 2 года назад

Excellent review. The third type of person is a big one. It’s a great way to share your knowledge, but family members don’t have to get in the weeds. :-)

@MrRlaureano 2 года назад

Lot's of bells and whistles for sure. Thanks for the detailed review. But how does the coffee taste, bottom line, specially when compared to something like the Technivorm Moccamaster?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

The espresso is great, and we'll get into why in future videos! The Moccamaster is a drip coffee machine, not exactly comparable...

@MrRlaureano 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Are you sure? Even your description says this GEVI 4 is a pour over machine. You may be referring to another video.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

HA, sorry, I saw this as a notification for my video on the Decent espresso machine 😄 With the same settings, I'm sure the GEVI and Moccamaster will produce very similar results. However, the GEVI is far far more customizable

@MrRlaureano 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks for the clarification. This is gadgets galore for sure and I'd love to have someday. I just can't justify spending $800 to $1K for a pour over machine right now so I'll stick to my manual pour over method for now. Keep up the good work with coffee related reviews!

@BenJoelLush 2 года назад

Seems like it would also work great with the tricolite.

@DeenaMorando 2 года назад

It does - Lance Hendricks used it in his review :-)

@sillyscreaminsiblings1657 2 года назад

Love your style of videos and how articulate you are. I am ready to buy this machine but have a few questions: 1. Are the dimensions really 10x10x11 inches? 2. What is the minimum volume you can make. In other words, can I make one 8 ounce cup of coffee? 3. Is there a manual? Thanks again for such an informative video!

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

The machine is 10x10x17 to the top of the hopper You can make as small of a drink as you like, and as your brewing method with allow. Water dispensing is completely programmable. Yes there is a manual :)

@sillyscreaminsiblings1657 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Thanks so much for a quick reply. Any chance of getting a pdf of the manual? Can’t seem to find it online.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

It’s a printed version unfortunately

@brentroman 2 года назад

Does the machine give you the ability to somehow pre-rinse the v60 filters when you use them?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Yes, you can just manually dispense some water to rinse, although it would have been nice if this was built into the recipe workflow

@imrms8304 Год назад

Do you know if there is any plastic in the brew line? Plastics when water is heated or is acidic, it leaches these estrogenic chemicals into the brew. My manual drip process uses a ceramic cone. For me metal (steel or copper) is acceptable. I personally am not concerned about the water storage tank just heated and brewed water

@imagelee Год назад

The water reservoir is 304 stainless steel.

@808vee 2 года назад

How do you pulse pour on this machine if the flow rate is fixed?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Flow rate is not fixed. You can set many individual short pours at whatever intervals and flow rate you want.

@808vee 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ understood. I think a followup recipes for this machine would have completed this video. I guess you could still do those under youtube shorts.

@kurtzcol Год назад

should make a model without the grinder

@maze400 2 года назад

Very cool design and to answer your question, I prefer the black badge in the front.

@iamjerney 2 года назад

Looks like a beautiful machine, just make it in black

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

That would look awesome! 👌

@DavidRBermudez 2 года назад

Interesting...I use metal filters at home. I like how the coffee tastes....but including both types of filters is actually something not many others do...but how consistent is this brewer?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Metal filters definitely add some more texture over paper which can be interesting! Perhaps I shouldn't have said "I dont recommend it" and instead said it's not my personal preference

@DavidRBermudez 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Ah...gotcha. Although it would make for a good video to explain the difference between metal and paper with the Gevi.

@andygranatelli8809 2 года назад

Your link is not for this machine.

@chuckv8838 9 месяцев назад

Not sure why this doesn’t get better press. Yes the ux/ui could be better, like sometimes you press the icon, sometimes the ‘words’. But this isn’t hard to learn if you’re not just playing with for a review. And it does repeat your recipe repeatable manner.

@LifestyleLab_ 9 месяцев назад

I think it’s mostly the fact that it has a built in grinder that dissuades many people. Things like the new Hiroia Hikaru are more viable for most people

@JimboJones99 2 года назад

I actually like the name. It explains it in layman's terms to noobs like me what it actually does

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

You're not wrong!

@icu2995 Год назад

How does the coffee taste?

@LifestyleLab_ Год назад

Watch the original review

@mikascherhag8909 Год назад

is this better than the epos?

@LifestyleLab_ Год назад

This will be more programmable, but other than that I have not had them side by side to compare the grind quality etc..

@bbbo85 2 года назад

I wish they had put the scale under the head and just use real weight instead of hard coded pump characteristics water proofing shouldn't be hard either but I guess for symmetry?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Interesting idea!

@utnanwp Год назад

I watched to find out how to delete a recipe from this coffee maker - anyone know? I have this coffee make, and really like it but there are some challenges and not being able to delete a recipe is one.

@LifestyleLab_ Год назад

Hi Natalie, just swipe right to left like you would to delete an iPhone message :)

@utnanwp Год назад

@@LifestyleLab_ BLESS YOU!!I It worked. I couldn’t see that little garbage can before. I have a few more questions, but will ask over time as I can’t recall them all at the moment.

@D4PPZ456 2 года назад

This thing comes with a really good grinder. You could have both this and a Decent and not need a separate grinder for espresso, which is great value.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

This grinder is good, but I would recommend it as your dedicated espresso grinder. Especially with a machine as expensive as the Decent

@0whitestone 9 месяцев назад

I've really enjoyed watching your videos, I think you make really well considered reviews and techniques, one thing that does bug me is how you refer to generic or items of a different brand by other brand names. That's not a Chemex and that plastic cone is not a v60. I know coffee nerds will know the difference, but it seems in poor taste to refer to something by a different brand name and inexperienced coffee people will not know the difference.

@LifestyleLab_ 9 месяцев назад

This is similar to calling "facial tissues" Kleenex. A "Brewing Cone" is still a V60 even if it's not made by Hario. In my humble opinion

@0whitestone 9 месяцев назад

I just completely disagree. I generally hear people people refer to v60 by name and if it's not, then it's a whatever brand it actually is, or just a "conical brewer" or something similar. I've never heard anyone call generic coffee cones v60's like they do with Kleenex, but I'll accept that this might be a regional thing. This was meant as constructive feedback, no offense intended.@@LifestyleLab_

@LifestyleLab_ 9 месяцев назад

Interesting! Absolutely appreciate the feedback, no offense taken :)

@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад

Well, I'm wondering whether the market size for this monster for $1k exceeds 100 potential customers...

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Well it was successfully backed by 312 on Indiegogo, so there are at least that many, haha

@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ good point 😀

@EvanBlack11 2 года назад

I went from naw I don't like this to Hell Yeah sign me up. I also had a bad taste in my mouth form owning a cheap espresso machine from Gevi so my hopes wasn't high at all.

@abmr999 2 года назад

800 $ is a very expensive on this machine, the traditional manual preparation of coffee is a great pleasure, and whoever wants to prepare his coffee quickly and using a machine will not spend this high price!?? Then why is the coffee grinder included too, just a price increase!?? Most people have their own grinders

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

I think you've made a lot of assumptions about "what people want" and "what people already have" in this comment.

@abmr999 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Because I am one of those people and I know what I want and I know my needs

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Yes, but not other people…

@itsm3th3b33 2 года назад

He fell short of saying "I approve". Also missing is any mention of taste, which is what ultimately counts. At those prices, there's a 4th group of users: OCD gadget correctors that like to have conversation pieces in their kitchen.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Taste will be completely dependent on your coffee and recipe. Commenting on taste from this system would be akin to commenting on the taste from using a particular kettle... it's merely a water delivery method. Grind quality was covered in the original video, it performed quite well

@itsm3th3b33 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ Obviously we must fix the recipe and coffee beans variables. The point is to compare the delivery of that same recipe by this automated gadget versus a manual pour. For example, when it says 97F, was it really? 40ml of water, was it really? Besides evaluating the accuracy of the dials, more importantly, say my recipe calls for 60ml of water poured over. When I do it manually, I let that water sit on the coffee, which sits soaking for a while before dropping into the cup below. In this gadget that same 60ml is delivered in drips, and nothing soaks. What's the difference in taste?

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

Most of those point are addressed in the original video :)

@thegrizzable 2 года назад

All that tech in this machine and no wifi for software updates or app to download/upload users recipes for different beans. Overall, it's a good looking machine but I think I would wait for second generation before considering purchasing.

@ericanderson1753 2 года назад

I don’t know about this. You mention people with no gear - it’s hard for me to believe someone with no coffee gear is going to drop $800 all at once as their first coffee gear purchase. And people who are already into specialty will have a nice grinder on hand. Not sure about the product market fit on this one.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

When you piece together the combined cost of each component. 60mm flat burr grinder, scale, temperature accurate kettle, V60 cone, carafe... the price is actually quite justified without even considering the added functionalities of the pouring system

@ericanderson1753 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ yes, of course. I’m simply contending that the persona you’d have to target (one who has quite a bit of money to spend and who cares quite a bit about specialty coffee and good equipment but has no equipment at all) may not exist. I’d be interested to see the results of a survey on the street asking the question “how much would you be willing to spend on an all-in-one coffee setup?” And then a survey of people in a specialty coffee shop asking the same question and also asking “do you presently have any coffee equipment in your home?” I just think we’re talking about non-overlapping circles here. I’m really impressed with the machine, and I have the money, but I’ve got gear already. And the people I know without gear would absolutely balk at the price. Hope this makes sense.

@ericanderson1753 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ by the way… my intuition that there isn’t a product market fit… I may be right, and I may be wrong. It’s an empirical question. I hope I’m wrong, and I hope they succeed. Time will tell.

@cakdi196 2 года назад

Hallo guys iam from indonesia… who are you?

@yandeslongchamps 2 года назад

3 peoples is not a big market...

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

*3 types of people.

@yandeslongchamps 2 года назад

@@LifestyleLab_ I understood, just playing with you!

@zolson17 2 года назад

Is this a paid ad? It really feels like this is a paid ad. I like this channel and it has produced some amazing content. This is the first time I have felt like this was a paid ad. Can you please make sure to be as transparent as possible? I want to keep watching this channel but if there is uncertainty of whether or not the video is an ad it puts a bad taste in my mouth.... just like a bad pour over.

@LifestyleLab_ 2 года назад

We've never done "paid" reviews, as stated at the beginning of both videos these units were sent by Gevi for review (with no expectation) I don't think this update was particularly "paid" sounding? And the previous video on the Gevi was DEFINITELY not, haha. Transparency is always a top priority as long time viewers will know :) If you have doubts on my favorable review of this particular product, I urge you to watch Lance Hedrick's video which expresses similar opinions