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@@bcuongtran8294 DLSS not helping in this case, i barely hitted 60-70 fps with all maxed out and after turning off ray tracing my fps has raised to 140
@@darkring2842 What is your GPU? and do you use DigitalFoundry optimized settings ? At max setting and max RT the game could become very heavy on GPU but not much noticeable change. I'm using a RTX 3060 ti,1080p,DLSS quality and with DF optimized settings the game run very good at lock 60fps, it only use about 40-60% GPU.
People forget that regular raster shadows, colour bounce and reflections can indeed be as good as ray tracing, but the time, effort and resources needed to implement it is massive, even today Unreal Engine and likes of Cry Engine have been developed for 15+ years and still struggle to add these features because they are massively taxing on the GPU, it gets to a point were ray tracing actually is less computational expensive. And complexity in graphics also add more bugs and inconsistencies that are difficult to fix. Remember that in most games even today, light boxes are still manually placed, most light sources do not emit light by themselves, but are just models, while a real light source is added, this is duo to optimisation, with ray tracing all you need is a texture that emits light in any shape or form and no need to think about more, if you want a room to be less lit, you can adjust the the individual strength of these light sources, or if you want colours differently you can add different colour lights, as of now with raster lighting, to change colours in a room based on lighting, a lot of complicated methods are done to achieve it.
Tbh, i never really "got" how ray tracing actually affects the graphics of a game. Besides just "fancy lighting". And i gotta admit, the fact that reflections persist even though what is reflected is no longer in the fov of the camera makes it so much more realistic. The example of the thumbnail is perfect to show where the difference is
RTX is the Nvidia product name for consumer PC GPUs with dedicated ray-tracing (+DLSS) hardware. When ray-tracing is on a non-Nvidia hardware like AMD GPUs (PC, console) we can say RT, not RTX. Many people seem to refer to all ray tracing as "RTX" regardless of platform these days. (just an observation, not regarding this video's title or anything. Here it's clear we are seeing 'RTX' in terms of running PC version using Nvidia RTX GPU).
RTX means exclusive features that RTX series (20xx/30xx)+ includes. It was very well explained by Nvidia back in 2018 when revealing RT to gaming. RTX features includes RT cores for Ray tracing and AI cores for DLSS, DLAA, NRelfex etc.
Until AMD can do ray tracing at 60 fps the same way Nvidia cards can do it will forever be RTX. That's just a fact, not me shilling for Nvidia which everyone knows anyway that they're a predatory company. Even FSR doesn't save them, you can't get playable performance with ray tracing enabled on any AMD GPU, no matter the settings.
@@user-ig2ex7hb8k Yeah not sure what you're smoking but my 6800xt performs within 10-15% of my 3080 with raytracing and is no where near unplayable without fsr. In far cry 6 I actually get more fps on 1440p ultra ray tracing on.
@@user-ig2ex7hb8k wrong i have RX6800 and use RT in RE4 and play with no problem, nvidia NO because LOW VRam dont mention crash beacause RTX30 series, like 3070/3080 have low ram. And RE4 consume 12.4 VRAM without RT
It's beautiful work but I feel that, although RT can produce nice results, in many instances reflections and shadows are way too sharp. It creates a very cg look because it looks as though everything is covered in chrome rather than there being nuance in the specular roughness (Entire wet streets entirely wet everywhere rather than covered areas/doorways having dry patches) or shadows are way too sharp like the basket on the trolley. The kitchen was a nice example of this working well with rougher reflective surfaces. It demonstrates you can't just turn it on and it looks great - it requires a lot of time, resources and art direction to tweak shaders. No small task when recreating a city!
Raytracing is the technology used to produce photorealistic images in movies for a long time, the thing is that in games it can only be partially implemented so it can run in realtime with acceptable framerates, so there are still limitations and flaws like what you mentioned, but there is no doubt that raytracing, at it's full potential, is far more accurate than rastered, screen space solutions.
Totalmente de acuerdo. Es inadmisible que cargue así los reflejos... Sin RT y con ese aspecto corregido la iluminación tradicional sería sobresaliente.
@@alvaroarroyo1110 no tan exagerado, no había visto algo así en mi vida, eso es que lo han hecho así mal porque de toda la vida los juegos han tenido iluminación normal y no ha hecho ese efecto tan exagerado, es como filtro anisotrópico muy bajo
@@Ciberbastardo yo te lo digo por cuando juego mas me fijo en los graficos que en el mismo juego y por eso se que es bastante comun que pase eso, solo pasa cuando bajas la mirada totalmente y la subes, o viceversa; por otro lado me encanto lo del RT, se ve que es el futuro de los videojuegos, ahi si se vio completo los reflejos, aun le faltan cositas como las multiples sombras por diferentes fuentes de iluminacion, pero son cositas xD
Es imposible, lamentablemente el ray tracing de consolas es muy limitado, se nota sobretodo en reflejos como espejos. No es capaz de usar ray tracing mas que en bajo a 30fps como se puede ver en devil may cry, Watch dogs Legion y la calidad de reflejos de miles morales y Spiderman remastered
@@vewu29 I have a 3070 I was one of the lucky ones who got it MSRP price it's an awesome card and ray tracing is awesome but it's a hudge hit in fps Me personally would rather have fps than graphics
@@maxdamage4919 yes ray tracing is the official term but in Nvidia language it's rtx and since this is a rtx on video it's just easier to say rtx cause it's the same thing Ray tracing has been around along time yes but not ai generated ray tracing as accurate as nividas technology Breaths new life into old games and saves developers a ton of work on lighting but it still is early days even now
Love your channel (better than Digital Foundry at this point) Just so you know "Some shadows HAVE no reflection" instead of "HAS no reflection" (because shadowS in plural)
Me to , wait. Interesting to compare with Pc , of course rtx on pc will be much charming. And interesting to know about Dualsense features on Ps5 and Pc .
@@davidpantoja3668 Porque en una parte del video se ve que en una puerta de vidrio no se refleja el personaje con RT, pero no estoy seguro, por eso dije " no creo". Se sabe que en consolas el RT no es muy bueno y hay detalles que la apu desactiva en ese RT para no demandarle tanto a la grafica integrada. Mas o menos el RT en consolas esta en calidad media, pero no estoy seguro de que haya sido en ps5.
@@indian_crocodile I guess he says that because RTX is the name/brand used by Nvidia because is its version of the raytracing technology. Ps5 doesn't have RTX, it has raytracing.
@@pablo3558 dxr is the direct x version of raytracing that runs in software that even older gpu's can run versus rtx that only the 2000, 3000 nvidia gpu's and amd 6000 series gpu's can run
@@luiscanales696 muchos piensan que jugando no te das ni cuenta pero este tipo de juego dan lugar a exploración pues no todos son un tipico warzone donde debes moverte rápido en todo momento, normalmente tienes tiempo para explorar y rápidamente te das cuenta que es un mundo de diferencia y más en el apartado de reflejos
@@AngelTorres96 si puede ser, en ese caso como aun consume demasiado este tipo de tecnica lo mejor seria implementarlo precisamente en juegos asi tranquilos y no en otros donde vas corriendo o a maxima velocidad ya que alfinal nunca lo notas 🤔 apuesto a que muchos gamers les puedes poner un juego sin RT pero con excelentes reflejos trabajados y va a creer que se esta usando la tecnica
@@luiscanales696 efectivamente muchos no se darían ni cuenta, aunque todo apunta que el rt se convertirá en el nuevo estándar pues es mucho mas fácil de usar ya que actualmente tienes que hacer muchos trucos para lograr buenos reflejos e iluminación, ahora bien parece que las rtx 4000 y rx 7000 van a cerrar esa brecha de rendimiento, incluso en los juegos con mucha velocidad vas a poder meter rt sin perder fps
2 days left Cant wait to play it maxed 1440p 60 fps and ray tracing on my monster PC RYZEN 7 1700 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS!!
@@luiscanales696 no hay juegos donde funciona bien y se nota yo solo me refería en este caso El rxt mi única queja es que consume mucho deberían mejorar ese apartado no hacer que sea más potente ya que hoy en día ya es alto en consumo
@@osicle9978 por eso me refiero a que esta super verde la tecnologia, que consuma tanto es falta de optimizacion recuerda que efectos tan comunes que vemos ahora como fisicas del agua o pelaje de peluche son cosas que han ido mejorando con los años y ahora graficas integradas incluyen su soporte
Ray tracing is just a marketing white elephant since the visual change is not as impressive as promissed, the shown effects wth RT ON, could be achieves through another Hardware native instructions.
Your channel blows away Digital Foundry. Their focus on long boring videos just leads to delays while gamers who own all consoles and a PC want to know where to purchase their game. Digital Foundry used to be like that but now they’re all fluff and are useless for purchases.
ones does not need to be better then the other. each channel focuses on content in a different way. i would most definitely say that DF is far from useless for making a judgment for purchases. it simply takes a little longer to digest the content because of their commentary. to each their own, I like both. i use this channels videos for quick looks, and skipping around the video. DFS are more deap dives, which would naturally take more time
@@FurryMetalFerretVT but that’s what I’m focusing on. Day one purchases. Right now DF has no videos at all for Ghostwire while they do here. DF is so late all the time now they’ve lost a lot of relevance.
@@hurairaqureshi1031 1440p common resolution at 60fps with no rt on the ps5. Surely the ps4 Pro could have some settings downgraded and also do around 1440p at 30fps. The fanboys also claimed that godfall would not run on last gen at all yet its coming out on the base xbox one in April.
@@JudeTheRU-vidPoopersubscribe assumption considering how badly it runs on PS5 with stutter on Quality mode. Especially the system requirements of PC. Not well optimized game, Deathloop runs far better than this and yet it is fully next gen exclusive.
