Here after my July 2023 order never got fulfilled and Chris, the owner, ghosted his customers with no customer service or update on order status. We’re into April 2024! Don’t give him no fucking business.
Same happened to me. Ordered in June of 2023 and still nothing. I guess they have been so busy with the move and fulfilling orders of Military and LEO's the rest have just donated financially.
Been watching the reviews for a few months now, I had no clue you were Nebraska. Local Nebraska Officer here. I recently switched my duty belt to the Defensive Mechanisms battle belt because of your thorough review.
Just an airsofter here, I fixed the up down problem you mention with the pistol pouch with a ziptie, I could pass a ziptie arount the fixer and a hole on the pouch but if you can't just drill a hole on the fixer in the correct hight you want it on your belt and zip tie it. Great review, I think your channel is underated
After watching this video September of 23 i ordered a pair of pistol mag pouches, a rifle pouch, and a lens cleaner keychain. It is April of 24 and i have yet to receive my products, i have emailed and messaged on Facebook, been told that "your order will be out this upcoming monday" for nothing and my check up to be ignored. At this point no matter how well they perform i do not recommend giving this company your money, the HRT mag pouches perform great and i got them at most two weeks after ordering even though the rifle pouch was on backorder.
The magazine sounds like it is fantastic, but sadly, the company's service isn't up to par. It's been 4-5 months since I ordered the magazine, yet it still hasn't been shipped. I've reached out via email but haven't received any response. This extended delay makes the product doesn't seem to be worthwhile to purchase. Be forewarned.
I purchased a few of these pouches in June of 2023 to check them out. It's now January 2024 and they haven't shipped. I've been told twice they'll "be shipped soon". At this point I just want to see how long it takes. Initially had a 6-week lead time when I ordered. I don't care how nice these are, I won't be ordering anything else from this company.
@@ThinLineDefenseCoA content creator shouldn't have to reach out for customers to get there products. I would refrain from promoting this company until they can actually produce the products they are advertising.
I would love to see a comparison between the Grim Hunter and the Agilite Pincer mag pouches. They both fit a similar niche. Plus with the Agilite it has 1/2 in MOLLE adjustment on the back for better attachment to battle belts.
I'd certainly not fight you on the agilite either. It's just rigid at the opening but it is a nice hybrid. The only con is odd sized mags have a problem. -Walsh
Walsh, Thank you so much for your offer for the LEOs in your are. That is a great gesture on your part. That's awesome... Unfortunately I don't live anywhere close to you plus I RETIRED (not unfortunately) from Law Enforcement 4yrs ago after 31yrs of service. For you and your great team keep up all the great content. GOD BLESS! BE SAFE! 🤙🙏🇺🇲
Got those! They're very nice also. They're in the hard style pouch though as you sometimes run into size problems. But they're great and I love the Agilite guys -Walsh
Walsh is out here dogging on the HSGI Taco, but he's missing or has left out one very important factor. Aside from the fact that I've run HSGI double rifle tacos for years and not had issues getting magazines into them. You shouldn't need to reindex your magazines to your mag pouch and reinsert mags into them in a competitive or combat environment. When the magazine leaves the gun it's going on the ground, or in a dump pouch (situation dependent). When the magazine leaves the mag pouch it's going in the gun. Ok. Ok. Some guys may cycle mags from one location to another. But again, you're not going to do that in the middle of a match or while actively exchanging rounds with someone. Not to mention, the HSGI Taco rifle mag pouches accommodate M4, AK, and AR10 magazines. There aren't very many of those out there. Fewer yet that are double rifle mag pouches.
well the only thing worse than having an HSGI pouch is having an empty one. The stupid thing literally jabs you and every opportunity while being the biggest bag of garbage possible. I'd rather use a trash bag to hold mags -Walsh
I'm with you. Been running hsgi tacos since Iraq with no issues. I'm not a competitor so I don't reindex. They go into a dump pouch or ground. But I'm just a gwat boomer I guess...
These are good mag pouches indeed. But ever since AGILITE dropped there mag pouches ive never looked back. Even with the retention bungees on them. U can load a mag and re - index with your none shooting hand no problem. Pretty impressive. Good video though man!
So it's a blue force gear with cool cardboard front & back and grip tape on interior. That price is a winner though and worth a try. Thanks for the review. #wizard
Just ordered the multicam arid .. after watching this video for the porch time lol… Which is saying something, because I already have a set of HRT mag pouches and Esstac pouches... I love gear what can I say ... sucks they have a few month wait time but I don't mind waiting for quality at a good price
@@rb9228 that's a big no for me. I waited 2 months from Defense Mechanisms which I think is long but adequate. 5+ months... yeah... that's not cool, especially if they took your money. Reminds me Triarc lead times and see how that turned out for them.
It blows my mind that the kydex dudes are getting away with MONTHS of lead... back in 2018 when I stopped making gear. You were shunned if you had more than a week to ship... now you can have 8 months lead and everyone is okay with it
Man, I ordered these pouches 4 months ago and still don’t have them. I got an email with “shipping label created” tracking info a week and a half ago that still hasn’t changed. Got told by Chris, the CEO, that he dropped them in the mail for me himself two days ago yet the tracking information still says “label created “ and the product hasn’t been received by the shipping company. I am drastically disappointed and am starting to think this company is full of SHIT!!! So, it seems I’m out $175.00 and aren’t getting anything I ordered either. Thanks GHTG for being a bunch of lying thieves.
Nahhh they're just a mom and pop shop trying to meet the demands of all the craziness. Toss me your order number to our email and I'll hit up Chris myself and see if I can help ThinLineDefenseCo@gmail.com -Walsh
Chris seems like a nice guy, but way over his head. Emailed him a little bit about a color not available, which I appreciated, and haven’t heard back since the 5th. It sucks for those who are waiting nearly a year for product. The product can be a slam dunk, but if customers, especially LEOs or military, are waiting months to a year to get orders fulfilled, then it’s no better than your average garbage pouch. Hope Chris can figure it out because it looks like a great product, but I’ll likely stick with my Kywis
I dont think I seen it in this review, but how does it attach to the belt? Is there material built in to weave it through my belt or is there something I need to buy separate?
Have you seen the FrogPro Hawk Plate Carrier?! It's a load-bearing plate carrier. How's the comfort, how's the feel, weight, features, can you load it up, is it comparable to the other load bearers (K19 and LBAC)? You mentioned tegris shoulder pads in your LBAC video. The Hawk has add-on comfort shoulder pads. Is that what you were looking for?
@@ThinLineDefenseCo No, they are Italian. Hopefully, the price drops because it was just released a couple of weeks ago. Though, they do market as a premium brand. 736.89 Euros is an odd price that comes out to 790.28 USD right now
I saw Pro and Hawk and immediately my mind went to Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and couldn't figure out why a skateboarder or a video game would be involved with a plate carrier
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I'm looking to use the Hawk plate bags and comfort shoulder pads w/ the Shaw Concepts Arc V2 Cummerbund. I want to see if I can get the Tiktac QDs on their so I can do a straight pullaway and maybe get a tegris support band like on the LBAC, which would run into the HAWK. Since you can pull straight out the LBAC tegris cummerbund wouldn't be as awkward to release. If possible I want to make a sliding system where such cummerbund is free to slde in and out of a slit (preferably on the rear plate) and use a hybrid PALS webbing to allow the security of an elastic cummerband pulling the bags close with the rigid anti-sag of the tegris. The LBAC seems to accomplish this, but the separate spacers on the rear bag keep it so far from your back that it's bulky, keeps the plate further from the COG and exposes you to shots slipping underneath. God forbid I try to run a pack on top of it and opt for the LAPG thick plates. What do you think of this solution? I just saw your video on the K-Zero mentioning the Warfighter Cummerbund. I saw the warfighter on their website before, but I didn't notice it had elastic! That looks like the closest cummerbund to my solution. Throwing that on the Hawk plate bags with Tiktacs might be 90% of what I want. Though, it also doesn't have the webbing overlapping the buckles like the Arc V2 Cummerbund does. I can live with that, especially for the price. The extremely minimalist cutout block PALS webbing also looks similar to the HAWK PALS style, so that would work well.
Another great review walsh, I would love to see your review on the Arbor Arms Magnet Assisted Retention System (M.A.R.S.) Pistol Pouch, I wonder if those magnets is actually useful or just a gimmick
ohhhh for those I use the HRT angled adapters. They're cheap. Also used a HRT rifle pouch for the front. Then I used a Guardian warrior solutions adapter into a teklok to run it sideways like that. hope that helps! -Walsh
Not that style unfortunately. Tell Grim Hunter you love Walsh and maybe he'll put some extra pep in his step haha I know it's a long wait but they're absolutely worth it. -Walsh
@@rb9228 Don't get the one's from Unobtanium gear. Get the Spiritus Elastic Pistol pouches. Unobtanium gear doesn't have squadron for better retention.
Okay, I will admit, I was a major fan of the HSGI pouches since those pouches will take ANY magazine basically. But, I also like to keep an eye on better gear, especially in better color choices. The pistol mags look fantastic. My only question is, for the rifle pouches, will they take AK/AR10/G3 mags decent enough? I have a feeling they do, but would just like to make sure before going to them.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Cool, thanks! Emdom and Ronin Tactical seem to have something like these, but without the awesome color choices. Definitely going to check these out!
Bro why are you hating on my hsgi rifle pouches. They allow me to switch between shooting my Rifle Dynamics Ak and My Cobalt Kinetics Ar 15 without having to have 2 different belts for each type of rifle.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I do cool stuff. My mag carriers don’t collapse down when they have mags in them, either and it’s never caused me an issue. If my mag pouches are empty, they won’t be for very long. May I ask, what situation are you referring to where this is an issue that needs addressing? I mean, so much so that giving up the fantastic fitment and retention that kydex mag ouches offer?
Grim Hunter can’t keep up to pace to fulfill order and doesn’t respond to any emails as it’s only way to contact Chris. Damn scam by taking money first and ghosting everyone.
They do...but I'd tell you it's more the connection system and not the pouch. Look for the HRT tegris adapters. You'd probably need tools as it's super stiff but it makes for a great connection. I have the angled adapters and they're like 7 bucks....which is amazing. -Walsh
Yea I wish it wasn't just a small family making this. But if we give them some love we can help their infrastructure. I understand your consternations though. more big words big words fancy sayings -Walsh
I think Shaw and t3 and a few others are using that elastic with Tegris and rubberized internal material too like this as a well as a few other manufacturers. Having said that all the tactical nylon companies even the big ones like Crye and spiritus are just Insane with tons of stuff always out of stock and wait times of two, three or even four months for non custom and six to eight months for custom. Those ouches are very affordable though and look good!
I think Shaws dep pouch says it used friction pad inside called “hank” material or maybe I’m mixing it up and saw it mentioned on some other site but I definitely saw rubberized material inside and Tegris with elastic somewhere else, I’ll try to find it but regardless these pouch are a great price!
@ThinLineDefenseCo Thanks for actually answering questions and being helpful on your channel. I appreciate the knowledge. I just got some HRT pouches and love them, based on info from your videos.
Anybody have any updates on fulfillment times? I like to help out small businesses but I've been burned in the past by paying up front with promises of delayed shipping. I'm just not willing to pay all the money up front with just a promise, no matter how good the product is. I have purchased products that aren't billed until they ship....that's a little different. The website even says NO REFUNDS OR CANCELLATIONS. Seems like the customer is asked to take ALL the risk from a business that is an unknown. Maybe close orders until there's some stock to ship then allow orders until that stock is gone. I know the site says all items made to order but they've got to know enough about the customer base to make stuff that will sell so they're not stuck with it. Just my 2 cents.
HSGI and the other law enforcement standard gear like point blank are disgusting. The lack of adaptability and evolution in departments is a cancer in itself
@@ThinLineDefenseCo the double ones are too floppy for me but singles are great. But all of these are operatorish, so if you crawl in dirty terain in both of those it will be covered in shit and perhaps lost.
