GIANT PROBLEMS! | Deepwood Noble #2 | SOVL 

Wait until you meet an undead giant. They make you reroll all successful attacks.

You either use both chariots to sandwitch one unit, or give them power buffs and attack a flank to guarantee a higher battle score. Then your opponent either (ideally) breaks, OR, turns to face ghe chariot, which will bravely sacrifice itself so your frontline can flank. But yeah, I find I have to be careful what targets I pick. Sometimes, not charging is the best move, since they're so mobile they can just stall a unit or two.

What are you working on?

@@JanetOnOccasion Redemptor Dreadnought. Inbetween Old World and D&D projects.

There isn't one; it's very poorly documented. X and C highlight owned and enemy charge ranges, and holding Shift + X/C highlights ranged attack ranges.

@@JanetOnOccasion THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR!

X and C. Hold shift + x/c for ranged attack arcs.

SOVL and its free on steam

At that point, why not just give a list to pick? I agree that maybe they should buff some of those bad choices (discipline doesnt feel like a great buy since you have to be losing to benefit from it, and extra replenishment seems situational.

In multiplayer (and at higher difficulty levels) enemies can rally a fleeing unit so you probs want to wipe them out. Being in melee also protects you from range, so charging into a weak unit can basically make your unit tankier and put them in position to flank again after killing the weak unit. Apparently on discord, someone mentioned that rear-charges might get changed so enemies cant retalliate to them, so that would make chasing down even more attractive imo! 😮

@@RandoFromMars yea i did not know that good points to know layer on only on level 2 on the dwarf ,orcs,elfs and humans so will do and yea but so ar range units havent been a problem and i would rather that then charge a ablss warriors lol bt good points and did not know thst where discord so i can leanr more tip and ticks thanks to

Melee hit chance works by comparing each Unit's Skill. Equal Skill (5 Skill vs 5 Skill) gets a 4+. Higher Skill (5 vs 4) gets a 3+. Double or greater (6 vs 3) gets a 2+. And the reverse is true for the opposite (5+ for lower Skill, 6+ for half or less). It's similar for Damage Rolls, though that compares Power vs Defense.

If you look in the rules, you'll see that it's only ever a 3+ (higher skill) or a 4+ (equal or lower skill). There is no bonus for doubling, which I find a bit disappointing.

The rules pages are hugely outdated so don't trust it beyond vibes. More skill = Better. Good enough for me.

​@@JanetOnOccasion yeah, I think saves got changed too (2+ saves arent a thing in the online rules iirc) No controls page in the settings either (let alone rebinds). Documentation of this game is pretty bad. But I like it so much!

It's honestly a problem with the games design. Why not run them around when It lets me win the battles without taking a scratch? Any losses cost me loot, so why engage at all if I can avoid it? I just run them around because it frankly makes me invincible. And I'm assuming you mean melee **infantry** since my chariots are constantly charging enemies, and it's their success that means I don't have to get my other units involved as much. Also half my infantry benefit from additional attacks when they've not charged this turn so I have reason not to charge them into combat but to let them be the recipient of a charge instead. Imagine that shooting prevented a unit from moving for the rest of it's turn and see me start throwing my units into combat like you'd expect in a battle. I think the game would be a lot more interesting if that were the case.

@JanetOnOccasion I don't fully disagree, but a part of the game is those clashes. it's like choosing not to take any risks at all. like, yes, you're rewarded for it with like 7 gold per unit. but it makes it, at least to me, a tiny little frustrating. It really is just watching someone not interact with one mechanic to abuse the AI who can only run at you. I know over all you're the one playing, so your fun comes first clearly. but it sucks a little to see the dancers never get used. it's like I just wanted to see them shine with those buffs to attack. Maybe I'm just purely in the wrong. Sorry if I'm wasting your time with pointless frustration. I hope you have a good day.

@@JanetOnOccasion As far as I understand the problem is that in multiplayer that won't be really viable. Your units have more or less double their base move as effective charge range - move plus charge itself. So most archer units don't have the speed to get off more than one or two shots without some creative maneuvering and use of terrain. Because you need to spend your move on turning. And things like chariots don't have the fire density to be a real problem. It also doesn't make sense for chariots and horse archers to have this limitations.

You’re not in the wrong, it’s a very boring part of the design that needs fixing. But it’s a rogue-like so it’s primarily about resource management and I need to keep those units as a resource for when they’re needed later in the run. I can only give so many units the slip, and as the arena gets more crowded I’ll have to throw some more units into the melee to stop my ranged units getting caught.

@@zoolimar9989 so don’t give those units the limitation. Not all units are supposed to be the same but the default shouldn’t be that ranged units can move and shoot, that should be something that makes skirmishers a unique unit type.