He might have other research that he doesn’t want to reveal, and I bet if someone actually went to go look there it’d cost a LOT of money to fly there get the gear and get a helicopter to the exact location
Joe is absolutely right about aboriginals messing with outsiders. Coronado chased the legend of the seven cities of gold for years and until most of his men had died. The tribes would tell Coronado that the cities were a good distance away and would send a guide along. They did that to lead the Spanish away from their family and tribe.
I spoke to a client of mine once, who worms for the National Parks, and does 2 weeks on 2 weeks off in the parks around warragamba dam, because its Sydney's catchment area, theres a huge zone no ones (except the rangers) are allowed in. So there's alot of feral cats that live there undisturbed. Every now and then they bring in professional pest hunters who fly over the bush with rifles, and at one point he saw a feral cat run from them and try to hide in a wombat hole, it struggled to get in. It would of been bloody big to struggle to do that. So its entirely possible to be big feral cats
@@Tagerrun nope, he has a show called extinct or alive which has been on stand by because of Covid19. I assume that after Covid19 he might try to find the slot
I remember the episode where that Galante caught that leopard on a trail cam & was so over joyed. It is inspiring to see Rogan's reactions of curiosity.
Joe needs more guests like this guy, it’s so much more interesting and satisfying than the conspiracy theorists etc. I could listen to this guys stories all day they’re incredibly fascinating!!!
@@lonelystoner2091 less so. It’s a story that people hear and finding it to prove if it exists to then check it off as fact or fiction, Vs something like flat earth which is definitely a conspiracy theory. Flat earth theories come out and get disproven over and over again. Another one is that theory of people saying 5G will cook us all alive. Again, conspiracy theory that got proven wrong by just by knowing the electromagnetic spectrum and power output.
@@blacob37 I would explain the giant sloth conspiracy to you, but they scrub the entire internet for that stuff and offenders disappear. Just carry on believing they don't control the world, you'll be much safer.
If anyone is interested in reading more about the Saola read the Last Unicorn by William DeBuys. Also there's was one instance where a Saola was caught and put into captivity it died relatively quickly but the animal is really interesting and the research that's been attempted on it is really cool.
It's not that the people saying they've seen a giant sloth are lying, but we may be misunderstanding their way of relaying oral histories. They had ancestors who lived when the sloths did. Many native groups maintain oral histories for tens of thousands of years. But sometimes these oral histories don't use time in the same way we do. They may talk of something happening "now" or "recently" but what they're really saying it "this was reality at one point". This is a common linguistic and cultural issue that people have when trying to communicate with isolated tribes.
An anthropologist who worked in Peru with the Machigengua learned that they had seen what sounds like a giant sloth 25 years prior to his arrival there, meaning 1975. They also told him that the creature still existed in the area but was very rare. I think that his account is reliable because he works in that field and studied their culture, which relies on having a good understanding of their language and mentality.
The sloth is called Mapinguari I believe The high Peru mountain bowl, he didn't say the name but there's a couple possibilities. Cordillera Huayhuash is in the shape of a bowl, is barely populated, and is hard to get to. Zona Reservada Santiago-Comaina and Cordillera del Cóndor both are in northern Peru in the Amazonas region and are considered high concentration biodiversity hotspots. Unicorn is called Saola
The level of oxygen in the atmosphere may have influenced the evolution and size of megatherians, but it is not considered the main factor for their gigantic size. Megatheres like all mammals, required oxygen to survive. However, their large size is due to a combination of other factors, such as food availability, adaptation to the environment, and evolution over time. @@MortdaInconvienceGod
@mortdaeldergod694 Giant sloths DIDN'T exist because of higher oxygen, mammals and dinosaurs gree so large because of the environment not oxygen level at all. It was ONLY insects that grew larger due to higher oxygen levels. There are many different species of giant ground sloths woth the smallest being a species known as Hapalops and some species living in the deserts of Nevada and species like Megalonyx living as far north as Alaska. Species like Thalassocnus were semi-aquatic ground sloths. The species many believe could be behind the myth of the Mapinguari are the smaller species of giant sloths like Mylodon which can be 6-9 feet tall. Reply made: 5:22 AM Sunday, November 5 2023
I would drop everything for a chance to go on trips like these. Was trained as a corpsman, spent 3 years rock climbing in Alaska and have 10 years experience as a RN if anyone going to one of these crazy places needs a medic.
Talking about the dinosaurs in Africa, when a missionary was showing a schoolbook on dinosaurs to a Pygmy tribe, the tribespeople immediately identified the picture of a brontosaurus/brachiosaurus as a M’kole mbebe (I totally spelled that wrong). They said the animal lived deep in the jungle near a certain turn in the river. There was even a movie with this as the basic premise back in the 80s. Who knows, maybe dinosaur extinction wasn’t quite as rapid as we think, small pockets managed to live on, deep in the jungle, and somehow lasted long enough to enter into the collective memory of the people living nearby. This is similar to how oral tradition has passed down fairly accurate descriptions of other long extinct animals.
@@md.hassanabdullahkhanshafi3866 It's called Mokele-mbembe, users can't share link anymore on RU-vid or the comments/replies having links will be automatically blocked or deleted. Reply made: 5:28 AM Sunday, November 5 2023
To anyone late... David Cho from early VICE hitchhiked the entire U.S. with his cousin and he made his money being an artist, but when he did the first Facebook office, he decided to get paid in stock. Ballsy, but still got the biscuit. Love David Cho
He talks loud. Joe talks quietly to counteract or to lead him to be less loud. I hope he doesn't talk that loud in the Amazonian jungle. Them giant sloths gonna hear his ass from 2 miles away.
They might not be trained to speak that close to a high powered mic. Joe has Jamie or whoever edits after to remind him, the other guys might be in variable cases.
Have u ever seen the UFC? All my dad ever says is why is he yelling at full volume all the time? I mean since like UFC 30 something or whatever all my dad can say is why is he yelling?
It's true about panthers in Australia, sightings and hearsay for the last 50+ years but now with mobile phones there is footage of them. They're in Tasmania and Victoria, someone tag this Forrest Galante guy, the guy that told him isn't crazy or fucking with him. Don't know about the Thylacine though, not as much 'sightings' of those as there are panthers.
The interior of Labrador, Canada (province is Newfoundland & Labrador) has had very minimal exploration and is largely untouched. It's a very rough, inhospitable and extreme place, lots of rock, rivers, lakes, bogs, mosquitoes & black flies are insane and the winters are very cold with deep snow and huge snow drifts 10-20ft high. Not saying there's any mystery creatures to be found, just mentioning an area in N. America unexplored. Generally northern BC, Yukon & Alaska are seen as being untouched, which isn't wrong necessarily but given the gold rush period and tourism of recent decades people have had a high presence especially compared to Labrador. There's also a 3200km snowmobile race, Cain's Quest, every year.
The black panthers in Australia thing is, from what I have heard, had to do with some animals being shipped in for a zoo or something in Melbourne, but while they were being unloaded at the airport some escaped and sightings of black panthers have been a thing ever since. I'm not sure if it's just an urban legend or not. I think my aunt said she saw one once and she isn't a crazy, so idk.
Black Panthers in Australia story comes from when some military organisation had panther as their mascot and let them go into the bush. Other theories are the "Panthers" are giant feral cats set free and evolved
A friend and my cousin were in Alaska heading for Canada with the pipeline in the distance my cousin told me both him and Tad seen a white unicorn. I questioned him and he said it wasn't a mountain goat or Dhal Sheep...
@@Astromamut I came to the exact same conclusion about a couple months ago. To turn your coordinates into words, people should just look up Cordillera Azul National Park in Peru. All you need to know about this place is that the series of events that earned it national park status started when some guy wandered into the area and noticed that all of the animals he saw were coming out to investigate him out of sheer curiosity; as if they'd never seen a human being before, and thus had absolutely no learned fear of people. This is especially odd when you consider that most of those species tend to be absolutely terrified of humans everywhere else in the Amazon Basin, but in the 10,000 years that humans occupied the Amazon they never once seemed to have settled anywhere other than the peripheries of the park, none of which exist today and are simply suggested by some archeological sites. Check the area out on google earth and it'll be easy to see why. It's nothing but a vast expanse of swampland completely surrounded by untraversable rugged hills and mountains, so steep that they constantly experience landslides. It's one of the most unexplored regions in the Andean Amazon, so much so that it was practically left as a blank spot on aerial maps until the early 90s. Forrest seriously wasn't kidding around here.
4:18 "Black panthers in Australia". These have long long been rumoured to exist in the Australian wilderness, having been brought over by settlers some time in the 1800s. My mum who grew up near the Grampians, swears to this day that a black panther walked across the road in front of her whilst on her house when she was a teenager. The giant cat made hee horse get very scared and she nearly fell off. Anyway it could be that dude saying he saw Black Panthers as well wasn't bs
I've heard of that Congo dinosaur. I had a book as a kid on mysterious unexplainable stuff from around the world written in the 70's that had a bit in it about it.
Oh yeah, the dinosaur in Africa is actually from South Africa, not Central Africa. So it's really in Zambia and neighboring areas, not the Congo unfortunately. Yeah Darren Naish was able to fix the misinterpretation and stated that many had misread the exact location Mokele-mbembe was reportedly sighted. Reply made: 5:33 AM Sunday, November 5 2023
1:21 What he was trying to say is "Mapinguari" it's a creature of native folklore that may or may not be related to the giant sloths, at least in brazil the giant sloths are called "Preguiça gigante"
i was about to say the same. I think it's super strange that Americans think the mapinguari is a giant sloth, the description of the myth is completely different. Never seen a sloth with a mouth in my stomach lol
I think the reason people are so obsessed with finding new animals is because we feel like we know everything about earth and feel like we have found every animal there was to find on this planet but in reality there still a lot we haven’t found or places we haven’t even searched and when we do find a animal that is large in size we feel stupid that a animal has been living under our nose the whole time
4:20 - Yes there are massive black cats. I seen one when i was 5 going to church in 1991 in the back of the car. Mum, dad, 2 sisters and myself.. However im more inclined to say it was a massive feral black car. This was up the back of sherbrook forest near sassafrass, Victoria Australia.
I'm from Australia and there is some wild panthers in sydney nsw if you search Blue mountains panther it show you proof, theres also been sighting in victoria.
I jammed on my brakes at 100kph to miss a Thylacine in Victoria Australia back in 2003 - first time i’ve said anything about it, but I know what I saw.
The way I look at it is this, if you pull up at a town you've never been to and someone runs up and says in complete Earnest that there's a dinosaur in the Forest do you believe them? No. If the entire town comes up and says it in complete Earnest do you believe them? Maybe not, do you go in the Forest? No you'd be stupid to ignore the entire town.
Forest just dropped jewels about mkele mbembe when he followed it with an answer about the asian unicorn and how people mythosized the creature so the Western World saying "whatever" but it ends up being a real thing
Black panther sightings have been as common as thylecene sightings in Australia over the last 100 years. I know a dozen people who say they’ve seen them in my 60 years. Apparently they escaped a travelling circus and bred in the Aussie bush
The reason humans are so fascinated with "hidden animals" is because we are driven by a built-in motivator: pattern recognition. PR drives religion, the scientific method, art, etc. Everything comes down to our innate ability to find patterns in everything. The same goes for unknown creatures. We want to know them, see them, understand them ... so that we can see and experience yet another new pattern of life.
I am from Australia and down near Ballarat, Bathurst and Bendigo , all known towns for some of the earliest gold rush times are spots where some of the first fleets apparently brang multiple black cats for reasons unknown , as there were only apparently very few brang many years later people are to say they have seen panthers in our rough bush areas even up to the late 1990’s 🤷♂️
I like his analogy about the natives having no real reason to fake a sighting for fame or recognition. Reminds me a lot of North American natives who talk about Sasquatch
Little known fact in the Big Thicket retreat in Texas, you going to find all different types of wildlife including Black Panthers. During the last ice age that was a hotspot for migration.
Hold up right there, Tasmania in AUS does have black panthers there. People reckon that maybe circuses lost their panthers back in the day, and are now breeding and roaming free in Tassie. As for the Thylacine and Black Panther actually hanging around each other like "friends" would be highly unlikely
@@thejigglyjellyturducken4491 Look into Bob Gymlan's "3 Cryptids That Kill" video. Those large black cats in the British Isles arent myth, theyve just not been officially verified despite there supposedly being pictures of them. Probably because the civilians would freak out if they were told theres populations of black panthers hiding in the forests. I even have a Welsh friend who said theres been recent sightings of those black cats near his town. Also, if I remember correctly, Bob tackles the issue of them possibly being zoo escapees.
@@pinesandtraplines Imagine thinking the government would keep something like that secret instead of immediately making wildlife protections for them and trying to inform people. It's not like it's an alien invasion lmao it's fucking big cats. We in America have fucking cougars in our back yards and no one gives a flying fuck!
The idea of previously unknown or unconfirmed species reinforces the concept that we don’t have it all figured out, that there’s more to this life, that we truly don’t know shit. On the scale of how much there is to know, we truly know next to nothing.
I'm not crazy but one night driving interstate between wilcannia and Cobar somewhere in outback n.s.w I saw a huge black cat, like im no scientist can't specifically identify animals especially while travelling at 100ks give or take, but this thing was fkn huuge and black if it was a feral cat it would have easily been 5×bigger than any other cat I've seen, you see some strange shit on the highways out there,
