Another “waste of a season” because they refuse to address the Qb position. (We won 3 meaningless games while Commanders Won a Franchise Qb,6-2, & throwing hell Mary’s)
@@ehc1999 there would be no try if they would’ve lost them meaningless games at the end of last year, it’s called thinking about the future instead of living in the moment. Plus that “Try” was half assed/piss poor, just like how “they tried to sign Barkley right?” They knew it would take way more than just 2 1st round picks.
@@ggraham852stop being silly, you’ll never convince the players to tank, everyone wants to win. It’s really easy to sit back and say that as a fan, but it’s not that simple.
@@LifeFruit-re7mjyou’d be a fool if you think teams don’t tank. Look around the league, honestly just look at this season with the Giants. We purposely did not bring in a competent back up KNOWING DJ was not the answer. Brought in no competition to challenge him & drafted not one single qb. Now look season over already in the month of October. (Basically a form of tanking)
@@tyhoyte8540 hes is the NFC east i bet you 200 if you let Daniel jones go hes gonna be successful actually being pushed as a player and given a dabol but a tom caughlin type of coach not gonna happen but still dak on the other hand hes trash when it counts he will have 5 ints in the 4th and just put up his arms like why were not open at least we know we is wrong with Daniel jones dak gets every chance then loses the game by tossing it into the players hands on the opposite team he gets benched then look at least night prime example
@@ChipSkyLark8893 exactly what I said dak Prescott sucks you can give him 45 minutes more play time the ball half the game he can't be confident enough I never said Daniel jones was good but if you let Daniel jones go now he sucks but he can be better under a better team dak Prescott just can't come in clutch to save his own mother if needed I bet his mother could play better then him but also if we had dak Prescott same thing would happen
The new York media is a factor but also Daniel jones is decent not good but that's his fault to an extent but the NFC east as a whole devision sucks but the quartback position is a factor in all of it
The truth is if Daniel throws for 350 yards and wins the game. We have to hear it from the peanut gallery that he’s the answer, the truth, the future. The problem is after 6 years we don’t know what Jones we’re getting tonight, but I’m sure he’ll poop 💩 himself during the game
@ everyone knows what we got, it’s no secret. But my argument is if this up and down quarterback we have for some unknown reason has a good game, you’re gonna have idiots screaming for him to get a new contract because he’s the truth
In fairness to Schoen not addressing the backup QB spot properly is this. All Tyrod would have done is win enough games not to matter, but too much to get a high pick and move on to get a high pick QB. Lets just hope we loss enough at this point. Daboll and Schoen just might want to get their own QB at this.point.
I would have kept Tyrod, Barkley, and Love, offer Jones 1 year 25 million. They paid a top 25 QB over a top 3 RB, top 12 SF, and top 17 QB., makes no sense. This draft and Burns are the only reason why I'm still supporting Joe. Why not bring in T. Phillips better than Neal and Ezeudu.
Look at all the QB's we missed on picking up because of blind faith in Daniel Jones, Cowboys got Trey Lance for almost nothing and Green Bay got Malik Willis for almost nothing, and Eagles stole Kenny Pickett for almost nothing, and we got crap, imagine if we got one of those guys, we be in a lot better shape right now.
@@UltracrimsionLotasTrey Lance isn’t any where close to being better then dak. What have you ever seen from him to think that? What game, regular or preseason ?
@@Twiist585dak Prescott is horrible probably the only quarter back worse than dainel jones at least if you give dainel jones a clear playback and more time with the ball he can score not dak he's overplayed worth like 10 million at best
The giants handled the qb position/backup to perfection this off-season in my eyes. This is what they should of done pre Tyrod Taylor. I wanted Mike Glennon to be DJs backup in 22. You put the worst option you possibly can behind the struggling starter. Lock up draft position in 25 and then worry about the bridge.
I was upset that they gave lock 5 mill. There was no point in even putting a competent backup qb on this team. In the end it would of meant nothing. All it would do is make things even tougher on us in the 25 draft. We have no business giving away draft picks to move up. Nor do we need to be talking ourselves into selecting a qb at the position we pick. The Giants need to have their pick of the litter.
Things are Scary guys. We like Cam Ward. ok. But look at current tankathon......this is terrifying. There aren't many teams on this list that I would be confident in saying that they WOULD NOT be drafting a QB. Cam Ward to me right now looks like a long shot. if we lose tonight we may jump up the chart due to division record but not sure. 1 Carolina 1-7 .125 -- .515 Lost 5 2 Tennessee 1-6 .143 0.5 .534 Lost 3 3 New England 2-6 .250 1.0 .454 Won 1 4 NY Jets 2-6 .250 1.0 .485 Lost 5 5 Jacksonville 2-6 .250 1.0 .496 Lost 1 6 New Orleans 2-6 .250 1.0 .500 Lost 6 7 Las Vegas 2-6 .250 1.0 .512 Lost 4 8 Cleveland 2-6 .250 1.0 .516 Won 1 9 Miami 2-5 .286 1.5 .433 Lost 2 10 NY Giants 2-5 .286 1.5 .523 Lost 2
hard to believe the Jets are ahead of us in the draft order to this point this year but yeah, at least half of those teams would probably look to draft a QB (or at least are definitely in need of one) and I'm being conservative there, could very well be more than half
The GM is responsible for this mess. Honestly, during Hard Knocks when Mara said he'll be sick if Saquon went to Philly, and that's where he went, Schoen should have be been fired or at least put on an extremely short leash.
Unfortunately, considering the giants never had a black qb1 in the 100 years of existence. Don't think if Jones was healthy that Taylor would ever be starter. Is what it is.
I like T- Rod. He look good at times! But he has a one read run pattern and he can't stay on the field, when he comes he's good for a game or two and has a problem!
Let's assume for a moment that Daniel Jones was great, killing it all season and we were thrilled to have him. One injury and all we would have are Drew Locke and Cutlets. The Giants admin has left us no viable backup at both left tackle and qb...And yes, TT would have performed at a high level if he were here.
It's not that easy to address everything in one off season. How long has it been since we had two competent starting tackles? A decade... more? This admin accomplished something that previous admins were incapable of. We always want more, I get it but they've made solid steps on improving the roster. As for backup QB... I'm sticking with the fact they are looking to move on from DJ and drafting a new one is the best path forward... why would you want a good enough backup that could win games and ruin your draft position? Even if you think of it from a more selfish perspective... Mara is not wanting to replace Schoen or Daboll after this season. So if they can draft a QB in 2025, they are likely safe in their jobs in 2025 and 2026 (because Mara REALLY doesn't want to fire the HC/"QB whisperer" the year after they drafted a QB, like they did to Jones).
So we get Tyrod Taylor and win enough games to again miss out on the best QBs in the draft and any other blue chip talents while knowing that we won’t make a playoff run… What’s the point?
If Tyrod could stay healthy he’d be the perfect bridge QB. But the larger question is, how do lack of depth at QB + lack of depth at O line = vote of confidence for GM?
I love FSG but can you all PLEASE STOP talking/specifically about players that are NOT on the New York Giants! PLEASE move forward and stop dreaming about what could have been! PLEASE!
@@brandonwilliams2320 why talk about something that really doesn't matter? They are not on this team! We need to deal the current or deal with realistic options? Talking about what could have been is STUPID!
@@samfountain4721because players brought up a player that aren’t on the team. You gotta realize the giants look bad for the players they let go this year and it’s who the giants are and you have to realize that
The giants have been “the worst” at signing a good back up since I’ve been a fan. Tyrod caused us some games last year too. Devito has more wins than Tyrod and Jones in the last 2 seasons. Make it make sense.
At t his point in time I am not counting on this team to win another game this season, Im ready for this front office to select a fuckin QB in the upcoming draft. Ive had enough of this Daniel Jones bullshit.
Tyrod is Injury prone as fuck I don’t disagree that he probably would’ve took over at some point probably but let’s be real every time he did play for us dude literally got hurt most of the time
They honestly fumbled the Qb position they should’ve did whatever it took to either bring back tyrod or they should’ve signed Russ and let him start idk why they did what they did but it is what it is honestly as long as Daniel jones doesn’t get hurt and we just lose shadeur sanders will be a giant but let’s pray we win these last couple games and make a Super Bowl push 😂
Tyrod is not here- MOVE ON. Put DeVito in and he can move them down the field. So tired of so many coaches trying to make someone that they are not- making someone who's square fit into a round spot! Daboll is only good as OC and not head coach. I'd rather they fire DAboll and move Mike up to head coach.
giants fans are so weird.. So if DJ is at the point of being benched in what world would it make sense to get a QB that may win us 3-4 meaningless games? Where’s the logic in that?
Idk why but I just feel like If Daniel jones looks like absolute shit tonight I think the giants are gonna find a Qb to finish the season somewhere if he’s on the roster or not idk who but I just feel like they’d have to or they gonna lose the locker room
Nobody in the locker room wants DJ replaced. He's their best QB. He's well liked, well respected, and gives them the best chance to win. Fuck, they made him team captain.
@@michaeldonnan6767 nobody in the locker room wants him replaced because the other quarterbacks suck just as like he does he probably is well liked im sure he is tbh but I’m not in the locker room to know if he is or isn’t but I do know quarterbacks that are respected don’t have stories coming out about possible teammates telling the media if the backup from last year was still here he’d probably take his job he plays like shit tonight I bet his ass ain’t gonna be playing for much longer and last time I checked if you going into the season the starting quarterback 9/10 you gonna be the captain too so idk what you’re talkin about
If Schoen believed DJ was going to step up he's an idiot. But if he didn't believe in DJ and paid him anyway he's also an idiot. There is no other explanation. He had other better/cheaper options and he passed on all of them in order to give DJ $40 million despite other teams showing no interest. He's just lucky Mara has absolutely no idea what he's doing.
I think the players, esp the black guys, feel that TT was VERY dis-valued by the giants along with SB, in favor of a profoundly mediocre vanillasilly p QB. And I don't blame them. PS.. NEVER again utter the silly phrase "flashes of elite potential"🤣
Schoen is a clown. Russ came to NY first but this “organization” decided that they didn’t want to let him compete for the starting job. They looked at a Super Bowl winning QB and tried to tell him Daniel Jones was better. So, he did what he should’ve and went elsewhere. This roster has been incredibly mismanaged and that falls squarely on Schoen.