Gibson ES330 Shootout - Budget ES335 Killer?

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The fully hollow Gibson ES330TD, just a budget ES335 or a real classic in its own right?
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With the lockdown easing Huw and Ed manage to find the keys to the ToneTwins lair and dust off some old hollow body guitars! Joking aside we kept as much social distancing as realistically possible throughout the shooting process and had a great day with these wonderful guitars.
Guitars in todays show;
1962 ES330TDC Cherry Red with Bigsby
1964 ES330TD totally stock
1968 ES330TDC ‘long neck’ with replaced chrome covers & shimmed bridge
Key Timings
0:00 Intro Jam
0:33 Intro
7:49 Unplugged Test
11:07 Budget ES335?
16:04 Clean tones through AC10
20:15 Adding Overdrive
25:45 Best Of The Bunch
29:29 Outro Jam
Signal chains
Acoustic recordings made with Elation KM201 small capsule condenser through Drawmer 1960
Clean tones recorded through 1963 Vox AC10 with Coles 4040 and Drawmer 1960
Overdriven tones recorded through 1950 Fender ‘V Front’ Super with Coles 4040 and Drawmer 1960
Outro jam recorded through GasFX Drive Thru overdrive and Rift PR18 (cathode biased with no negative feedback) with Beyerdynamic M160 and Drawmer 1960
Many thanks to ATB Guitars for the loan of the 1968 ES330 long neck - atbguitars.com
Stay tuned for much more vintage guitar/amp/fx action coming soon!!
As always, we’d love to hear your views and suggestions in the comments.
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@rob3568 Год назад

That outro solo to close out the video really shines

@markberry9957 3 года назад

As you say the 330 is not a budget version of the 335 IMHO, it is a completely different guitar hollow vs Semihollow, P90 vs Buckers.

@AwardSession 2 месяца назад

I select my instruments (amps too) based on what kind of sound I need, and 330s do nice sounds that most others won't. I had my first used ('63) 330 back in 1965. Cost me £120... and I loved it!

@riclrk9947 Год назад

I was lucky enough to learn on a 1960 e 330 Gibson as it was my Father's.I inherited it and it still sounds and plays great despite having most of the finish on the back of the neck worn off through years of playing by me and my father,still one of my most played guitars...

@123uzuz Год назад

When the finish wears off, its just her soul shining through.

@billedwards2657 3 года назад

Got my 330 about a month ago. 2018 Memphis and man it’s awesome

@lrmhawk 2 года назад

Great video. I have a 1967 ES 330 that I traded another kid a 72 Strat for back in 76 and I absolutely love it! Feedback was a problem when I was gigging back in the day so I ended up getting a Les Paul Deluxe, but the 330 remains my favorite guitar to play. No regrets on the trade. I have owned both Gibson's for 40 years and still play them almost every day

@svenamsterdam3501 11 месяцев назад

The burst is unbelievably cool.

@MrTonicAmps Месяц назад

You missed the transition period P90 covers in 1962, which were nickel plated black plastic covers. The plating didn't wear well, so they soon switched to nickel plated metal covers. I have a 62 ES-330TD in tobacco burst, transition nickel plated balck plastic P90 covers, Bigsby trem, Stinger neck, and tiger maple back. Have had it for eons and love it!! Those P90s are incredible.

@berryster 3 года назад

Wow, I learned a lot from this video. You really made clear sense of the 330 through the 1960s, a pretty neglected topic I think. Very informative, thank you! I finally got a cherry 1961 dot neck with a trapeze bridge, which is pretty magic. Great player and lovely plugged in.

@bristolfashion4421 2 года назад

A splendid alternative to Chappers and the Captain - keep it up, fellaz !! ;-)

@thomasschweitzer3368 3 года назад

I could listen to you guys talking about vintage gear all day :) glad you can make it again into your studio - stay healthy ...

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks and you

@shaunw9270 3 года назад

Great video fellas, just the ticket for a wet weekend in Bristol 😉🎸 I never realised the difference in the neck to body joins before , only the ear size ,so thanks 👍 Always liked Paul Weller in the 90's with his 60's Casino into an old Marshall Treble & Bass . Cheers !

@nilsx3020 3 года назад

Glad to see you guys are back. Absolutely the best for a quiet weekend. Just what I needed when I saw a lovely sunburst 2013 ES-330 VOS custom shop with a Bigsby for sale locally yesterday. Decisions...

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Best of luck

@Clown321321 2 года назад

A very thorough approach gentlemen! Thank you!

@JoePerkinsMusic 3 года назад

Great video folks :-) Love my 330 '61 VOS Reissue - added some VIPots, Luxe Bumblebees and OX4 P90s and it sounds absolutely phenomenal. Ultimate recording guitar :-). The tone of that '62 with the Bigsby is my favourite...tempted to add a Bigsby to mine...! :-)

@neroinc5998 Год назад

You have three choices; awesome, awesome or awesome.

@Tord79 3 года назад

In my headphones the sunburst sounds best of them. But I didn’t play them myself, and the feel of the guitar is important. But all of them sounded great. Thank you for a good show👍

@brianh9529 3 года назад

The 330 is very underrated! I absolutely love mine. Just put Grant Green’s ‘Alive!’ album on.

@phillipholt6005 3 года назад

I don't think it sounds 👍 and acoustic. What do you think? But I don't think it's supposed to.

@paulgentile1024 3 года назад

"a time to remember"

@123uzuz Год назад

The 1962 is the best one imo. Awesome.

@davidkieltyka9 3 года назад

Nice job! I really like the single pickup 330s. The center-located P90 has a unique & versatile sound. But my fav 330 sound comes from the dual pickup version with both pickups on.

@davegallagher7428 3 года назад

Good to have you back guys! great video. If I had to choose one it would be the long neck, for the reason that I don’t have the biggest hands in the world and easy access to upper frets is a plus for me.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Good choice!

@Yannplaysguitar 3 года назад

If you ever decide to sell the 62 with bigsby, let me knows this is the guitar I have been chasing for years. Great video!

@maxpage1791 3 года назад

Very informative thanks, especially as a 330 is next on my want list.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@richardjames6623 3 года назад

Great review guys, just subscribed thanks!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks Richard.

@whisperthiefmusic 3 года назад

Great show as always Gents! I felt like I could tell that you found the red long neck easier to play and that was coming across in the way you were attacking the guitar and therefore the tones. For what it's worth I thought the red long neck sounded "best" from the clips. Saying that, I'd find it hard to walk away from the bigsby, it's too cool!!!!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks!

@pierrederesistance 3 года назад

It was interesting to hear the differences in the sound acoustically were less prominent when plugged in, id have expected them to be amplified (no pun intended). The 62 is the one i find the most desirable, it's gorgeous

@idhott 3 года назад

My local music shop had a 68 walnut finish es330 on the wall last time I was in there. That was the best feeling guitar I've ever played. I had to leave before I got too attached to it because it was 5 grand. if only...

@NickGranville 3 года назад

I first heard of the es330 via Grant Green. It’s such a tone monster. I’ve played a few of them including an all original ‘59 ES330 and it was killer. Wish I had the money to buy it.

@zaxmaxlax 3 года назад

Me too, his blue note albums are very underrated . The tone doesn't even come close using a humbucker epiphone the dot, maybe I will buy an epiphone cassino as my next guitar.

@retalt 3 года назад

Nice guys, that last piece was excellent, very Floyd esq in parts, my favourite kind of melody.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks Richard, much appreciated

@prospectnyc 3 года назад

this is really nice. your playing is nice!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thank you

@briandillon8041 3 года назад

Really well done. I had a 65 casino that I got feedback to the notochord I was playing infinitely. Learned it from watching Phil Keggi in concert but he in a second Guitars could do that. I’m not talking about noise I’m talking about infants it’s a stain of a cord. Unfortunately that guitar was stolen and now I have an 81 Japanese casino that I think has mostly Gibson factory USA parts in it and it’s very nice it’s walnut. Thinking about buying a later model with the next sit in a different position to reach the high frets you may have convinced me to go ahead and pull the trigger on that deal. They’re all lovely guitars and you played them very well and explain that very well thank you

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks we love them

@jonnybeck6723 3 года назад

Acoustic test was most appreciated and the long neck version is so interesting... It is, in fact, truly hollow?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

As far as we're aware yes. Same as the 'short neck' ones. Glad you like the acoustic test. These guitars are almost as enjoyable to play unplugged as through an amp.

@richardcrabtree8633 3 года назад

Excellent show as aways chaps. I have one of the long-neck CS reissues from 2010 which I fell in love with as soon as I played it. Just like the ‘68 model you played, the bridge pickup is an inch or two further towards the neck, about the same place as the single pickup versions and I find it slightly less trebly than the older models. They all sounded great though. Everyone needs a 330 in their life.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@johnbeloe 3 года назад

I've known these were great guitars for a while. My real takeaway is the gasfx pedal you are using at the end. Sounds fantastic. Just ordered a kit to build!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Hope your build goes well and many thanks ;)

@johnbeloe 3 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 going okay so far I think! Hoping I can do it justice

@stevehrrn9445 2 года назад

Hi. Nice video. Construction can be different. Some have a thin 'plate' under the top from the neck past the bridge, as wide as the pickups. A piece of three ply top glued in perhaps. Also seen the top thickened with the same wood as the top inserts of a 335. Also have seen longitudinal tone bars (as per a 225 and jazz guitar tops). Have an 80s Japanese epi casino with a 1/2 inch, probably maple, section glued front to back. All sound different, and of course the p90s all have different lives of their own! Steve.

@peterthompson4851 3 года назад

While High volume is not what they are meant for, it can be done. One of my favourite bands from the early 70's was "IF", Terry Smith their guitarist used his ES330 for everything. Checkout "Forgotten roads" on RU-vid.

@Johnsormani 3 года назад

Very underrated Guitars! I have a cherry ‘65 330td and I absolutely love it. I prefer the short neck verstond over the long neck since the narrow nut doesnt feel that comfortable to me. The p90’s absolutely scream!

@Wingman52 3 года назад

I have a 65 330 and a 67 335. On my 330, the body shape is actually a quite a bit different than the 335, and I think my 330 guitar is also different from other 330s, including those you have here, that I've seen. On mine the "ears" are smaller, and the cutaway is more shallow. It is a 65 according to the serial number but has all nickel hardware. It is also just slightly wider at the lower bout than the 335. I wonder if they were perhaps more hand cut so they are subtly different in many ways. Doesn't matter really, I love the 330 and play it much more than the 335. It's much nicer to play at a low volume through a smaller amp IMHO.

@jeffreymorreale7223 Год назад

ES330 is by no means a "budget" guitar. They are expensive and seem to not only hold value but appreciate nicely.

@davidriggs8196 2 года назад

I have a 2009 330L and I used to have a blond 59 330. I do find that 330L is a better guitar for using overdrive and resists feedback slightly better. It certainly responds to more brutal playing. However, my memories of the 59 was of an incredibly beautiful sound. I can only ascribe these observations to the position of the bridge. the 330 probably vibrates more through the bridge owing to it's position further in to the guitar and this is shown in a more resonant acoustic sound. The 330L has a leaner acoustic sound and a little less resonance in the electric sound, hence the slightly more resistance to feedback. I do love the sound and find it is a great alternative to my 335 when I want something brighter and more wiry. The mixed pickup position is wonderful as turning down the bridge pup slightly gives you a wonderful jazz tone. Turn down the neck pup slightly and you get a lovely full and expressive clean lead.

@tonetwinstv2863 2 года назад

Very interesting and well thought out observations David. Many thanks for your contribution.

@Tonetwisters 3 года назад

Budget? These things are expensive. Both have their place. I had an Epiphone version of the long neck. It was wonderful. It became Christmas presents, one year.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

All things are relative. Compare the prices of ES335s and ES330s from 62-64 and you could say the latter is a 'budget' option.

@bryanclarke1927 3 года назад

One of the best guitars I ever played was a vos 330. Defo one that got away.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Great guitars

@phillipholt6005 3 года назад

I have the Epiphone 339 arch top but I don't care for Hollow bodies and that's why I enjoy the HUMMINGBIRD with great electronics.

@phillipholt6005 3 года назад

I comment through video and I have enough with out having to have alot of work? My HUMMINGBIRDS draw back is you have to replace the lithium batteries before the indicator for a great sustain is excellent. I would put the bird on stage but luckily I don't go on stage ANYMORE. I'm hoping the Spark will be best friend because it's my passion to play around just to have fun in this miserable time especially with this COVID19 crap😜!!!!!!

@JT-gd7he 3 года назад

T is for thin, D is for dual pick ups. C would be for Cherry finish.

@gr328 3 года назад

How did the 330 and the Casino differ from the Century? Was it just the neck join or was the body a different shape?

@liveconcerts7550 3 года назад

ES 330 is by Gibson and Casino by Epiphone. They are for all purposes similar.

@checkpointcovid8021 3 года назад

I'll take a P90 over a humbucker every time!

@brendanslaven9003 3 года назад

shine on you crazy gibson

@sharonlee4773 3 года назад

You didnt mention the c.62 black p90s that were actually metal painted black! These were just after the black plastic ones but before the nickel ones. Very rare but Ive seen at least 3. Sunburst one is the better guitar in my opinion btw!

@tremolo73 3 года назад

Hello Hugh. I've been looking for a 330 for some time. Please do let me know if you consider selling yours (short neck). I can make you a good offer.

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Hi tremolo73. I'm keeping the red 62 but the sunburst 64 is currently for sale at Vintage n' Rare Guitars in Bath, UK.

@frankperri3131 3 года назад

In the outro, it looks like a G Chord at the start, but does not sound like one??? Is there a strange tuning employed here?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Yes, Welsh tuning

@daniwest1370 3 года назад

My funny valentine

@jacobm7421 3 года назад

The 62 is obviously the better instrument of the 3 great examples. Because it rings louder unplugged. The wood vibrates more. But the pickups could not be as well built as the other models. Since gibson was random back then

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

We've found 1950's Gibson to be anything but random, superb craftsmanship and consistency in all the PAF's and P90's we've ever played from that era

@jacobm7421 3 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 so your telling me that all 50s 60s pafs and p90s sound exactly the same? When a lot of great sources say and have proven some are hotter or more mellow than others.

@BootleggerPhil 3 года назад

Not a dud among them, but that '62!

@james.m.evans. 3 года назад

I wouldn't say budget, these days they're more expensive than a 335

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

We think you'll find that a 62 or 64 ES335 will cost more than a 62 or 64 ES330.

@james.m.evans. 3 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 true, I was going off the retail prices on non-vintage models

@phillipholt6005 3 года назад

I have a Bixby and tail piece but I'm a scaredy cat to install it because I have to drill holes. Sam Ash wants 65 dollars an hour to install with minimal 1 hour fee. This dog don't hunt.

@agusg.t.8950 3 года назад

330s are the same or even more expensive than 335s. I own both....

@RokinLee 3 года назад

Love to know your thoughts on shimming the bridge pups. Noticed your pole pieces were high on all of them except the red one which looks like it has a black plastic shim?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Good question. We do think the neck pickup tends to overpower the bridge on these guitars and it's worth noting that bridge pickup shims were factory fitted to ES225s. Having tried shimming and raising pole screws, both methods work but we prefer the latter. It doesn't take much to balance them out and we prefer the stock appearance.

@memTigerFanInNC 3 года назад

I have a 1967 ES-330 and I recently installed a 1/16" shim under the bridge after years of feeling like the neck pickup totally dominated the bridge pickup. Well no longer, the bridge now actually feels slightly hotter than the neck which is exactly what I was after. I have the pole pieces just slightly above the cover. A P-90 pickup does not have the magnetic pull of a typical Fender single coil, so they can be fairly close to the string. The shim is barely visible and easily removable so I say give it a try.

@Major00Tom 3 года назад

Isn't really a Casino?: Dog ear p90's and hollow body.

@matthewcasey4795 3 года назад

330 came first

@Major00Tom 3 года назад

@@matthewcasey4795 I see

@AllbeeHivezChristianAllbee 3 года назад

Ain’t it funny how a budget version of a guitar can just completely overshadow its more expensive counterpart to the point of it almost being unknown?

@123uzuz Год назад

The es330 is no longer budget.