"They are capable of making fantastic guitars". For the money they are charging for their guitars they should be "fantastic" every time they leave the factory.
Agreed I purchased one in 2021 a Les Paul tribute and it’s flawless the P90’s are amazing. Same quality as the one I got as a kid in 1978, price point $350.00 in 1978
@@PseudoNym13 I have a 2022 Les Paul Tribute. Except it's a Studio. The serial number and checklist say Tribute. It was sold in the store as a tribute but it's 100% a Studio (with the thicker maple neck of the tribute and the vintage cherry burst paint). I contacted gibson about it. They investigated and found that it started life in their factory as a Tribute and finished as a Studio. The QC just checked every box on the checklist without even seeing that it's the wrong model. Baby photo from the factory clearly shows it was finished as the wrong model. Studio truss rod cover, high gloss nitro, studio pickups, coil tapping, speed knobs, chrome not aluminum hardware, etc etc. Finished as a studio. Gibson has NO QC. If they put out a good guitar, it's just luck.
I had to look for a follow-up video and I'm so glad that I did! Right out of the gate is that I can see the night and day difference between that guitar and the last guitar. That gold top look stunning compared to the other one
I’m glad it worked out for you in the end! I hope more people see this video because, while their quality control needs some improvement, they really do turn out some truly spectacular guitars. I personally have a 2021 standard 50s p90 goldtop that i absolutely adore. Plays like a dream.
That's a beauty you ended up with but not the way it should have been.Some people just don't take pride in what they do. I saw the first video so I'm glad that you sent it back ,that was the right thing to do and maybe just maybe some one learned someing in QC! Thanks for the up date, Slim.
So pleased you had a great out come. But when it all comes down to it you should not have had to have experienced the inconvenience of returning 2 previous models. Yes, when Gibson do it properly, they do it well and they are a joy to see and behold.
I have a 2020 Gibson Les Paul Standard 50’s. It’s perfect. Stays in tune. Sounds fantastic. Probably the best Gibson Les Paul I own and I have several Custom Shop models. It’s also the heaviest at 10.4 lbs. AND I got it USED at Guitar Center in Austin, TX for right at $2,000 out the door. After seeing it on the wall and how expensive it wasn’t, I tried it out. And then I had to have it. I’m amazed someone let this guitar go.
I bought a Standard a couple of months ago. I had to return it because the binding on the neck was chipped and was very roughly sanded, the frets were also very badly levelled. I was so devastated. I'm glad you finally found your dream Les Paul.
My 21 LP Standard I purchased new at the Gibson Garage in Nashville. Staff helped me for what I was looking for and I found a dandy 60's series; no flaws and sounds amazing. I am hoping that now JC is no longer the CEO and Ceasar taken his place, the QC has not slipped. Seems like we are seeing more wood shavings in the pick up cavities like the Henry J. era at the end of his ownership group and the issues you had. Glad you posted this follow up video to fair!
Glad to see you got a guitar you are happy with - I was kind of bummed out for you when I watched the last video about the defective gold top. Anyway, now you have a beautiful guitar that plays and sounds as good as it looks. I picked up a gold top with P90s a couple of years ago and it is awesome - can't say enough good things about it. Enjoy it.
I watched the first video, but because there was no link to the second one, I didn’t realize there was a follow up until I viewed your channel. I suggest you go back and edit the first video and change the end card to link to this one.
A Very enjoyable video set. Great story with a happy ending. Nice and positive . Don`t neglect a bell brass tailpiece ! Seriously though : " If it ain`t broke don`t fix it" .Well done .
Agree 100% any observations should be backed up by data (EQ curves especially in case of comparing guitar tone). Looking forward for such videos. It would be nice if any tonewood enthusiasts could back up their claims in similar fashion...
This two videos about the Les Pauls made me think about the amount of things you need to be aware of in order to not be taken by a fool and now i feel a little bit wiser than before. Thank you very much bro, this is a good channel and you speak well and clear. With all the respect let me tell you dont miss the track on that mole you have up there in the forehead. Take care of the sun. Peace.
Funny last week I was on the market for a new Gibson 50s standard goldtop. After washing this other video, I was kind of worried but when I got the guitar Tuesday, it’s perfect. None of the problems that this guy ran into. It just baffles me that this guy sent back a guitar for problems and they turn around and send him a worse guitar.
I had really good luck with a 60s standard with “unburst” finish. I played quite a few and the only consistent problem I found was some cracking around the sides of guitar nuts. Perhaps there are just good and bad days at the factory. I was pretty impressed with most of the USA Gibsons. And I’m a little too critical of new guitars.
Glad it turned out okay, Gibson custom still has these issues. Specially the Murphy lab is STILL flaking off like nothing post 2022 when they “fixed” it
Last April I bought my dream guitar a Gibson Les Paul standard 50s but it wasn’t until July when I Received a fourth guitar that I got one that was perfect. And it definitely took some of the joy and excitement out of the experience because I was expecting to find something wrong with it. I’m very happy to have my dream guitar but it is sad that the experience of buying one’s dream guitar was ruined a bit by bad QC
Well you were the Squeekey Wheel and you got the Grease. The 2 previous guitars are still going to be sold to someone else and they may not have the ability to send back and get satiafaction from a company that has such spotty QC .
Wait didn’t you start with a 50s? That’s a 60s standard. At least the knobs are. Anyway, I have to ask, do you understand fret fall off ? Behind the 12th fret. Using a fret rocker at that point can be very misleading. You want fall off. My les pual is absolutely thrashed, not abused , but definitely played, dings, chips, dents, buckle rash to the wood. A few of the nit picks cracked me up. A few were definitely issues.
Yes exactly! That is what Glen Fricker said. If you want to prove tone wood you have to put in some leg work. Rhett Shull showed that is probably more the neck that influences the high end. That isn't too say tone wood is the most important. It isn't. The biggest factors are strings, pick and type of pickup and amp.
@@truckerkevthepaidtourist Well for guitar bodies there doesn't really seem to be much of a difference. But Rhett Shull has swapped the neck of the guitar and it made a difference. He provided the original recordings so feel free to put it in a frequency spectrum analyzer. Even without there was an audible difference albeit not huge. Even Glenn made video about it and thought it was a really interesting finding. And he is one of the best debunkers when it comes to that issue. There is also someone here who tested different wood species. In some the difference was practically zero while with others there was a measurable difference in frequency response. The title is: Does the wood make a difference in an electric guitar?
If you want to get more views on this video you should do a complete comparison of this new flawless guitar to the one you sent back. It's so easy to show all the areas that were flawed before and now they're not on the new one. Please do that. New subscriber.👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸🎸
Maybe I got a bit lucky but I've recently purchased my first ever Gibson - a 2024 Les Paul Standard and it's pretty much flawless like the one you have now. It's not at the level of build quality that my PRS Custom 24-08 is but, then again, neither are my Fenders. Sounds fantastic and is definitely a keeper. I thought they'd sorted the QC issues out with the new ownership.
No clue, Thanks for the tip. I'll lower them and see what happens, it's straight from the factory and they don't seem too close but it's definitely worth experimenting with
@@linnykenneyleather For sure! I had this problem on my American Standard Strat. The lower strings had this warbling sound that almost drove me mad until I read online about lowering the pickup height. And boom the problem was gone.
Sorry but for the price they're asking there shouldn't be any issues with these guitars. Supposedly when Caesar or whatever his name is took over these problems would be solved. Seems like he's more interested in picking up artists to get signature models than QC. Glad you finally got the guitar you wanted but man what a pain in the ass.
I have a 2022 Les Paul Tribute. Except it's a Studio. The serial number and checklist say Tribute. It was sold in the store as a tribute but it's 100% a Studio (with the thicker maple neck of the tribute and the vintage cherry burst paint). I contacted gibson about it. They investigated and found that it started life in their factory as a Tribute and finished as a Studio. The QC just checked every box on the checklist without even seeing that it's the wrong model. Baby photo from the factory clearly shows it was finished as the wrong model. Studio truss rod cover, high gloss nitro, studio pickups, coil tapping, speed knobs, chrome not aluminum hardware, etc etc. Finished as a studio. Gibson has NO QC. If they put out a good guitar, it's just luck.
I also noticed my bourbon burst 50s standard has a wave to it. It made me look at my effect loop to see what was going on. I have other gibsons, and a les paul custom. But they dont seem to do it to the same extent. I like it. But i could see people not wanting it.
How are the frets? I’ve ordered a couple recently directly from Gibson and both had issues with the frets not being leveled. I’d use a fret rocker and it would rock on several frets. I’m still in the process of finding the right one myself lol
This one is great, see my other video about the few that I had before it... not good. Gibson's warranty program is actually great, if you send one back they'll send you a new one. It takes a little while but worth it if you're not happy. Good luck!!
I have a 2018 gold top with p90s . I ordered it into my local shop and to be honest never really looked at it that much . I play it take care of if put it in its case when not being used all that stuff …. Saw your other video and rushed down and inspected mine … now that I’ve taken a deeper look Iv seen some things but nothing like your experience thank god . I doubt it would upset me now anyways if it had been worse at this point given that fact that Iv absolutely fallen in love with the guitar and inspiration it gave me to continue to work on my craft . However I’m not looking forward to my next purchase 🕵🏻
The AUTHENTIC Gibson Experience: For $3K, you can get an absolute POS riddled with QC issues, and have to go through a months long return process TWICE before you get what you set out to buy. Or, for $50K, you can fly to Nashville and have dinner with some stuffy buttholes and Kirk Hammett! I noticed that this one has the reflector knobs. Did you end up switching from a Standard 50's to 60's, did they put the wrong knobs on it, or did you change the knobs after you got it? Seriously though, very happy to hear that you finally got what you paid for!
Bought a cherry burst standard new in 1977, after seeing Zeppelin play the Silverdome, Norlin Kalamazoo guitar, it is perfect and I will never part with it
2023-2024; purchased 4 new EBMM guitars, all were flawless. changed strings, same sets as the OEM strings. no adjustments needed. 2023-2024; purchased 2 new Ibanez Prestige guitars MIJ; both were flawless. changed strings, same gauge, no adjustments needed. same for several other guitars at lower costs, including 2 new Fender guitars MIM, new strings and only minor trem adjustments; and 3 new Jackson Rhoads X-Series, made in Indonesia; new strings and the Floyd Rose needed adjustments as always; using the same brand and gauge strings no FR adjustments needed. These are sub-$1K guitars. Again, fit, finish, intonation, set-up, etc., flawless. I purchased these guitars online, sight unseen; and I ask for, and get, new-in-box factory sealed direct from the retailer's warehouse. Zero issues, zero returns. Not sure why, for many years and counting, Gibson seems to have such QC / workmanship issues at more than 2x the price of the guitars I listed above?
Gibson has improved the QC of their guitars over the past few years. Yes, one will slip by every now and then, and that has a flaw ..but me to i will look it over with my hawk eyes .. I just bought one at a guitar shop and it is flawless i cant find anything from fit to finish wrong. But you do need to look them over They are expensive for a regular working man, and my wife is still mad at me (we could have bought a new living room suite) So that's the next thing on my list..😊 I used to hear all kinds of horror stories about their QC and held off buying one for years.. But i am happy for you ,she is a beautiful guitar and Gibson took care of you ... now that's a big plus,company that stands behind you and makes it right .. Hats off to Gibson
Who ever the CEO is: Go and get your act together. If the outcome of many years of accumulated knowledge and experience results in such a really bad production and QC, something is very very wrong. But its probably todays Gibson standard 1 out of 3 is as it should be. Hard to understand you can run a company that way. But happy you finally got yourself a guitar, as it should be.
Why does it have the wrong control knobs? Did you change them? Also, try dropping your pickups by a full turn on each screw, see if that mitigates the vibrato. I suspect it's the magnets pulling on the strings.
When you charge such a premium for your "Made in USA" guitars, all of your guitars should be this good instead of having to return a couple and make a youtube video to expose them. The reason they still manage to sell any guitars is because they can actually get it right once in a while.
Good question, I have 2022 50" standard in cherry ,same thing fat 50's neck kulson tuners and 60 knobs, just came that way. Who knows maybe they ran out of 50 's knobs during production..
You're 100% right. They're supposed to come with the amber knobs. Personally, I like the 60s reflector knobs. I've had a set lying around for about 12 years which I may put on my current Les Paul.
You shouldn’t care if it hurts Gibson. It’s a joke and disgrace that you had to go through 3 guitars to get the well made one, especially for that kind of money. Gibson is a joke these days.
Are they a joke? Like comedy? Like satire? Slapstick humour? Tongue in cheek? I don’t get the joke, they must be clever comedians and it went over my head? ✈️.
I bought an LP copy from Harley Benton just so I had one to throw around. Cost me 80 bucks used on eBay. Best playing guitar I have and the finish is flawless. Do you know why they just can't get rid of finish contaminatio??? Doesn't Gibson have filter systems? I mean I know Gibson was never as good at QC as Fender. But you shouldn't have to look for so long to find even a decent a guitar.
Pleased to see you have got your dream guitar. Enjoy it. But gibson should know and better. I have seen a lot factory tour for rthe gibson factory. And there are a lot of skilled people there that worked there for years. I blame it to the management of gibson. Only money counts. No gibson for me.
I have a 2022 Les Paul Tribute. Except it's a Studio. The serial number and checklist say Tribute. It was sold in the store as a tribute but it's 100% a Studio (with the thicker maple neck of the tribute and the vintage cherry burst paint). I contacted gibson about it. They investigated and found that it started life in their factory as a Tribute and finished as a Studio. The QC just checked every box on the checklist without even seeing that it's the wrong model. Baby photo from the factory clearly shows it was finished as the wrong model. Studio truss rod cover, high gloss nitro, studio pickups, coil tapping, speed knobs, chrome not aluminum hardware, etc etc. Finished as a studio. Gibson has NO QC. If they put out a good guitar, it's just luck.
The thing is that "tradition" tells us "oh, I tried 20 Les Pauls and they were all horrible, then suddenly a wonderful one came along. I bought it and it will last me a lifetime." Many guitarists seem to have become "holy grail seekers." The focus should not be on the gem we found, but on the other 20, which are garbage. I have a Les Paul and an SG, both from the early 2000s, and a Telecaster and a Stratocaster, both from the American Original series. Both Fenders are wonderful, and the Gibsons have been fine for the past 20 years, but now the Gibsons are going away...and a PRS is coming. And I won't look back.
So the 9th one is the charm? You looked at a bunch at guitar center, then the one you bought, returned, replacement sent back? So one out of 9? Was right? Shame on Gibson!
This still does not change minds on Gibson. Too many QC issues. They probably got tired of you sending them back and went searching for a flawless guitar to stop your videos. It should not come to that. For a brand with a built-in audience of tens of millions who will only buy Gibson, they need to put more effort into their overall production.
If you put up This Gibson Sucks! You would get over a million views lol. If you say it’s fantastic and you should buy one? Than you will still get the haters and some people saying Gibson Sucks get a Fender Strat lol. I have been playing and owned many Gibson Les Pauls over 35 years. If I had listened to everyone on the internet? I wouldn’t own one. That’s not how this works. You try one out, it either speaks to you or it doesn’t. Cool Goldtop I’m happy you like it.
What's up with the intro guilt trip? Suspicious and awkward.... I suspect that Gibson went overboard, making sure this one was perfect because of your participation on RU-vid. I doubt the average buyer would have the same experience. Secondly, you should not feel guilty at all for your previous review of that pile of shit that you paid $3000 for. Imagine how many people experience something like that and don't get a replacement or don't even realize they bought junk.
Seems to me to be a very common occurrence with these overpriced Gibson guitars. You pay absolute top dollar for a less than top dollar product. It’s a shame really
