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Gibson's New Model (They Didn't Tell Us About...) | 2024 Gibson Non-Reverse Firebird V 12 String 

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📚Description: On April 30, 2024 - Gibson launched the Reissue of the Electric 12 String Non-reverse Firebird V with little-to-no fan fare. Unless you ran into one of these at a shop, you didn't stand a chance to see this release since there was no front-page of the website push, social media posts or anything! I've only seen the Gibson Garage post about one yesterday. This is actually pretty exciting as outside of the EDS-1275, the Custom shop hasn't produced a stand alone 12-string model... for a really long time. Maybe if these sell well, we will get more.
0:00 - Gibson's New Model - 12 String Firebird Non-reverse
0:24 - How I Found It
1:06 - Gibson 12-String Electric Guitars
3:48 - Vintage VS Reissue
4:48 - First Impressions
5:00 - Case / Paperwork
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10:55 - Clean Tones
13:25 - Tone (knob) Tones
14:34 - Dirty Tones
15:44 - 6-String Mode Tones
16:25 - Final Thoughts
17:48 - Watch Next
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@brownie_the_3rd
@brownie_the_3rd Месяц назад
I bet an Epiphone run of these would sell faster than they could build them.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Месяц назад
Gibson noticed the popularity of the Squier Jazzmaster 12?😂
@user-qn6dn1ht4j
@user-qn6dn1ht4j Месяц назад
Yes, I have one in Olympic white, looks better than this,
@waynebake1123
@waynebake1123 Месяц назад
Probably...I have one in Fiesta red and it fits the bill.
@jehogue7907
@jehogue7907 Месяц назад
Squier vs a 6k Gibson?
@donthewatcher
@donthewatcher Месяц назад
i got the blue one put fender jazz master pickups in it lol
@ratwynd
@ratwynd Месяц назад
@@jehogue7907 Squire wins on value for buck. Any well made electric body/neck can be made to play and sound great with the right setup, mods and upgrades. Most instruments less than $5k need a good setup immediately. The Gibson is strictly a fanboy thing. The sound demo of this one DID NOT impress. While back I took a $125 CCP Glarry strat-alike shaped 12 and went over it. Plays and sounded great and sold quickly when I wanted it gone.
@hermanturnip3984
@hermanturnip3984 Месяц назад
I'm not an SG guy but that 2010's 12 string SG looks very nice!
@frankwebster9110
@frankwebster9110 Месяц назад
I am an SG guy and you, sir, are correct!
@BrentAdams
@BrentAdams Месяц назад
Electric 12's are awesome. I Love that 12 string "Twang" tone that they offer.
@frankwebster9110
@frankwebster9110 Месяц назад
That 12 string neck thru you have is easily the coolest of all of the Gibson 12s but I dig that non rev FB 12 string you have there. I really like it!
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 Месяц назад
If I hadn't pledged that if I do get a 12-string electric guitar it'll be a double neck Danelectro, this Firebird would definitely appeal to me, down to the color.
@samiam5557
@samiam5557 Месяц назад
Very nice brand spanking new NRbird. Really dig the color.
@michaelailer5623
@michaelailer5623 Месяц назад
I am glad you have a shout out to Warren Haynes, he is a big user of Gibson 12 string electrics. His 12 string LP is supposed to be #1. All his Firebirds are Non Reverse. I will just about bet there will be at least 2 of these in his touring coffin (primary and back up for each tuning). Wish Farmer (RIP) Warren's legendary guitar tech was still with us, he named all of Warren's guitars. He would have fun with these. Warren would probably change the tuners and top strap location with strap locks. Thanks for making my Sunday!
@Zundfolge
@Zundfolge Месяц назад
The one thing I usually don't like about Firebirds is the pickups (although I'd love to have one with P90s). But on the 12 string, the Firebird pickups are really awesome.
@iknowyouarh
@iknowyouarh Месяц назад
Why all the negative about the NR Firebirds? They are very similar to the Fender Jaguar/Jazzmaster. Those models are well liked and very popular. I think the NRF are great.
@ArchieOnEarth
@ArchieOnEarth Месяц назад
I’ve been an electric 12 aficionado for a long time. The tones on this instrument are spot on. Also, as a guy who was into Metallica and the Smithereens at the same time, I too have played Call of Ktulu on an electric 12 (in my case a Rick 360/12).
@chris_2714
@chris_2714 Месяц назад
Weird they chose the non reverse body. The reverse seems much more popular and with a niche instrument you'd think they'd do everything they can to appeal to the masses. Still cool to see them making these
@danielktdoranie
@danielktdoranie Месяц назад
Traditionally that is the FB body type Gibson used the only other time they did an FB 12 string
@squiddysquidster802
@squiddysquidster802 Месяц назад
Probably just because it looks similar to those fender twelve strings. I kinda like the non reversed firebird, looks goofy.
@steveliberty
@steveliberty Месяц назад
I had a 65 Non-Reverse Firebird in the 70's. Two P-90's, and a short Vibrola. I strung it with the bridge, which was a wrap around, and ignored the Vibrola. Great guitar - wish I still had it.
@glaucosouza1971
@glaucosouza1971 Месяц назад
A Gibson USA version for half the price or less would be awesome.
@stephanguitar9778
@stephanguitar9778 11 дней назад
Epiphones are now the price of Gibsons 5 years ago, unlike wage rises.
@ralphwest8156
@ralphwest8156 Месяц назад
Tone is amazing ' ...that switch looks unnecessarily awkward as is the strap button placement, but wonderful chimy tones '
@strat0871
@strat0871 Месяц назад
Love the non reverse Firebirds.
@ronhoffman7941
@ronhoffman7941 Месяц назад
Thanks Austin very cool !! suprised how it sounded
@nellayema2455
@nellayema2455 Месяц назад
Epiphone had a Wilshire 12-string with mini-humbuckers in the '60's. I had one in the early '80's.
@greensombrero3641
@greensombrero3641 Месяц назад
that blue make it sound better
@advancedapproachproduction2394
@advancedapproachproduction2394 Месяц назад
I didn’t Know That SG existed. But now I need it.
@Mars-mr3om
@Mars-mr3om Месяц назад
It does look cool AF
@ShredAimlessly92
@ShredAimlessly92 Месяц назад
Always thought the 3x3 standard headstock looked better on a NR Firebird. ESP made a signature guitar recently with that style and it looks fabulous.
@MegaHomie4life
@MegaHomie4life Месяц назад
10:17 This bare spot in the control cavity is just the tip of the piece of masking tape the was covering that area was laid all the way up to the edge of the cavity. When the tape was removed, that bit of wood was also masked and didn’t get the paint right there. You can tell if you look at the entire patch of bare wood as a complete section that was masked.
@Pannemat
@Pannemat Месяц назад
Appreciate how you de-strung and re-tuned a 12-string for our entertainment.
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
I would’ve done the other 6 strings too but ran out of time haha
@HoiPolloi
@HoiPolloi Месяц назад
I have a Firebird like this but the six string version. Can't say I play it too much but do enjoy it when I do.
@chrisghiardi117
@chrisghiardi117 Месяц назад
There were mid 60s NR Firebirds that came factory with a toggle. My exp was the sliders weren't as good.
@TM-ev2tc
@TM-ev2tc Месяц назад
I would like to see a cut out hole (of some kind ) in the pick guard that lets you see the body through it on the guitar.
@WhatIsMeDoing
@WhatIsMeDoing Месяц назад
The 335/12 got reissued in the 2010s, I've almost bought one a number of times but always found that I preferred fender 12s. I now have a Squier Venus XII.
@arguewithatree4921
@arguewithatree4921 Месяц назад
Sorry, completely off topic.. I noticed something with my 120th anniversary black Melody Maker. The maple top and neck are aging to a deep blue.. It looks incredible.. I have a few, I love the slug pickups.
@pat5882
@pat5882 Месяц назад
Trogly, I was also surprised with the Rick like tones. Next time break into: The Beatles “You Can’t Do That” and The Byrds “Mr. Tambourine Man”.
@danielktdoranie
@danielktdoranie Месяц назад
Boomer alert
@pat5882
@pat5882 Месяц назад
@@danielktdoranie I’m sure you are vehemently searching for the tab of each song.
@vonroretz3307
@vonroretz3307 Месяц назад
But what was that dark thing he played after Stairway ? I know it but can’t figure it out.
@j.t.2722
@j.t.2722 22 дня назад
Not even close to any Birds or Beatles sound. Rics are strung different and wired differently.
@brianw7502
@brianw7502 Месяц назад
Which is your favorite of the single neck 12 strings?
@EricClapton1945
@EricClapton1945 Месяц назад
Those firebird neck pickups sound phenomenal
@leviathan_is_me
@leviathan_is_me Месяц назад
The way he played "Come As You Are" makes me think he had "THAT" tab book, lol.
@jsauce311
@jsauce311 Месяц назад
Lol
@jsauce311
@jsauce311 Месяц назад
Lmao
@JKM395
@JKM395 14 дней назад
I have to try one of these. Sounds great.
@jimmyjames2022
@jimmyjames2022 Месяц назад
This 2024 Gibson Non Reverse Firebyrd 12 is sweet! It sounds as 1960s as you can get and I'm all nostalgic now, but hey this is a Gibson not a Rickie.
@boneless360t
@boneless360t Месяц назад
What song where you playing during the Tone (knob) Tones at 13:25?
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
A country flavored “I’ve just seen a face”. Beatles
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot Месяц назад
I would love to see this but with the Jason Hook m4 Sherman explorer look, zipper and all
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Месяц назад
Greetings Scott
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot Месяц назад
@@sgt.grinch3299 hey Sgt! Cheers 😃 hope you are well!
@eddiegutierrez9379
@eddiegutierrez9379 Месяц назад
As a 12 stringer myself… I need this!!! 😫😫😫😫
@pritchettdan
@pritchettdan Месяц назад
Get a Rickenbacker or a Danelectro.
@user-qn6dn1ht4j
@user-qn6dn1ht4j Месяц назад
Had a Rickenbacker, extremely narrow neck, got rid of it even though mine was beautiful,
@steveparish9210
@steveparish9210 Месяц назад
Yeah that narrow neck is really hard to play, I used a capo​@@user-qn6dn1ht4j
@dlux8735
@dlux8735 Месяц назад
Honestly I love the None Reverse.shape. Reverse Firebirds have just gotten too played out over the years. When I have my None Reverse out. people are like wow that's cool what is it? or I get , I never seen one in person, nice. It was a Fave back in the day with Paul McCartney and even Brian Jones, Don't mean to ruffle any Firebird feathers, Just my opinion.
@keithmatry8939
@keithmatry8939 Месяц назад
What 😮and WOW that is a crazy SG neck through 🤓 your playing sounds good 👍
@easternshore8367
@easternshore8367 Месяц назад
I was definitely surprised by the clean sound. I know firebird pickups are similar to p90s and LP mini humbuckers, but these were pretty bright for a 12 string.
@jfinester
@jfinester Месяц назад
Firebird humbuckers are similar to P-90s and LP Deluxe minis only in size. They’re constructed totally differently.
@6stringcodger450
@6stringcodger450 Месяц назад
Good luck with 2x the tuning! Used to borrow one for jobs back in the 70s and it was a pain. Modern tuners would certainly make it easier though.
@user-ib1xh3wn7s
@user-ib1xh3wn7s 19 дней назад
Oh it says neck profile is 1960s slimtaper on gibson website. But it actually got a baseball neck. 😢
@shaunw9270
@shaunw9270 Месяц назад
Pete Townshend once owned a lime green Non reverse Firebird 12-string, it was auctioned for charity about 25 years ago.
@christophervaldez8746
@christophervaldez8746 Месяц назад
Will there be an Epiphone version??😅
@duanewelsh5611
@duanewelsh5611 Месяц назад
Most of the people who paid 6k for one these probably hope not!
@charlesbolton8471
@charlesbolton8471 Месяц назад
@@duanewelsh5611 Why? Those of us who can afford Gibsons don’t care one bit what Gibson does with the Epiphone brand.
@sassycat
@sassycat Месяц назад
Nice, I'll keep it in mind.
@jaymax3201
@jaymax3201 Месяц назад
Cool bird!
@austismm
@austismm Месяц назад
this thing looks great!!
@Candlepinman
@Candlepinman Месяц назад
The color reminds me of Fenders Aqua Marine Metallic from the late 90s, early 2000s
@jfinester
@jfinester Месяц назад
It sounds great! I never liked the look of non-reverse Firebirds, but those Firebird pickups work great for a 12-string. Gibson-how about bringing back the neck-through SG 12 from a few years back, with Firebird pickups?
@roberthansen8059
@roberthansen8059 Месяц назад
Cream City Music is my local store. Excellent service. I’ve bought several new and vintage guitars from them.
@m.12m42
@m.12m42 Месяц назад
Can you use this mounting only 6 traditional strings?
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
I do it in this video. The neck is a bit wide for it, but it can be done
@john564holloway
@john564holloway Месяц назад
Glad they did the open-book headstock. Not a big fan of the firebird traditional headstock.
@phod123
@phod123 Месяц назад
Same pickups that come in the new Epi Firebirds - I adore mine so I’m not complaining. I’d love to have one of these but $6K is about $4K too much for anyone looking to gig a XII.
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 Месяц назад
Sounds great !
@benspeeds
@benspeeds Месяц назад
Soooo weird...thec on-reverse is my favorite Firebird. They look more like a Jazzmaster and I'm a Jazzmaster FIEND! Wish epiphone would do an affordable non-reverse.
@PeterMoore350
@PeterMoore350 Месяц назад
11:50 the colour of the guitar in the the playing demo is soooo different to the colour on the workbench. I like the playing demo colour. You really need to get your cameras colour matched !! Not the guitar for me though. Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
Nothing to do with color matching - removing the green screen also takes any green hue out of the guitar
@PeterMoore350
@PeterMoore350 Месяц назад
@@Trog aaah makes sense. Thx
@sagittated
@sagittated Месяц назад
As quiet as the fender American pro ii thinlines.
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Месяц назад
Just saw someone had the Epiphone reverse non reverse headstock Firebird for sale. From what I could tell I dont think it was a neck through. I belive it was a lowbudget player. I could see a good view of the headstock but it looked like it could've been an Exploere style. I like how they set up controls on the one you're reviewing. I like to have my bridge volume close at hand for swells and other tricks. Cool you did the Darth Vader entrance for the 4th. I used to have that as special ring tone for the ex. Michael Nesmith sorted a 12 atring Gretsch most of his career which gabmve the Monkees songs their aound.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Месяц назад
No such thing as a reverse non reverse Firebird. They're either reverse (think Johny Winter and Allen Collins) or non reverse. This 12 string one Trogly just reviewed is the non reverse body style. These guitars (non reverse) were a glued set neck construction too whereas the reverse body Firebirds had neck through construction. Reverse Firebirds came first and the non reverse came afterwards as they were less labor intensive and less costly to make. That and the fact that originally the reverse body Firebirds weren't selling that well. The current Epiphone reverse body Firebirds are a rmrrue neck through construction too. HTH. 👍
@clarkbabin9799
@clarkbabin9799 Месяц назад
It deleteted the part of headstock which would be an epiphone but im not exactly sure its a neck through. But at some point way back in the 60s or 70s. and ive only seen one there was a reverse body non reverse headstock Tmodel . ​@@jonathanhudak2059
@tonygaruba424
@tonygaruba424 Месяц назад
Sounds and looks great
@Ixodiusixi
@Ixodiusixi Месяц назад
With such advances in plastic quality the ability to manipulate it these pickguards that are flimsy really bothers me. Pearloid inlay on the headstock though i mean 5,999 serious now. I get the historic touch but also the bridge with 12 strings geez the posts the known issue. I know i am missing the point but like as a player who wants the precision but the historical touch it looks like something you don't want to wail on everyday to get the most out of. I love the body style and unique sound.
@danmichel7653
@danmichel7653 Месяц назад
Hugo trogly rock that 12 string great job brother😊
@deanbartone8187
@deanbartone8187 Месяц назад
Very cool
@thenut1212
@thenut1212 Месяц назад
What pedal(s) did use for your sweet-as metal shreds?
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
Red rox
@user-js2gg6lf5y
@user-js2gg6lf5y Месяц назад
Damm, Trogly. Your getting good.
@futureprimitive7465
@futureprimitive7465 Месяц назад
That’s nice, love that color
@b.rodclark334
@b.rodclark334 Месяц назад
How dare those mini humbuckers hum like single coils... or are they stealthy SC's under the covers? They definitely sound 'fun' together!
@aluminati9918
@aluminati9918 Месяц назад
Love Gibson having some cool 12-string options. But I’d rather spend 3-4.000$ on a nice Rickenbacker 360/12 and have 2k left on my Mastercard.😅
@adiohead
@adiohead Месяц назад
Firebirds have to be reverse only.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Месяц назад
Reverse are my faves when it comes to Firebirds. I own 2. The non reverse aren't bad though...
@reco5able
@reco5able Месяц назад
Firebird 12 feels like Gibson trying to do the paranormal series guitars like fender but doing it expensively i wish epiphone would do a parranormal series that combine Gibson guitars and bass
@Edward1312
@Edward1312 Месяц назад
The price is nothing short of outrageous for what it is, especially when you consider the Squire paranormal 12 string blue Jazzmaster which looks similar cost $375. Gibson are not even providing individual tuning heads at this price point, but opting for some cheap inline set and using the excuse that they are more historical accurate as they do regarding the positioning of that top strap button. You dont even get a bridge with individual saddles for each of the individual 12 strings to aid intonation. Is this all some kind of joke!
@_peachbeach
@_peachbeach Месяц назад
that's so dope
@Siggy_Sour
@Siggy_Sour Месяц назад
Best sounding guitar i have ever heard ARE YOUR SERIOUS!
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 Месяц назад
I remember when I was becoming more guitarded then first saw a pic if someone ( Thurston Moore ) playing a non-reverse Firebird , I thought it was so ugly that I loved it , its so goofy , yet I want one .I will look very sophisticated playing it ! Yes-yes...for a 12-string Ide rather have a Rickenbacker . Thanks Trogly !
@vincentrandles8105
@vincentrandles8105 Месяц назад
I nearly didn't leave a like, because I hate that guitar 'upside-down', then I began thinking with my bighead again. You put alot into these videos, so who am I not to like em? You'll come back with a better guitar (for my taste) next time I'm sure! Cheers Austin!
@oldmanjimh3165
@oldmanjimh3165 Месяц назад
SG is beautiful.
@jonathanhudak2059
@jonathanhudak2059 Месяц назад
Very cool! Too bad its got a thicker neck but it does sound pretty good thanks Trogly! I love the headstock and that cool inlay. I like the color too.
@susannoland7385
@susannoland7385 Месяц назад
I enjoy your videos!
@jameshughes6049
@jameshughes6049 Месяц назад
Howdy everyone!! Sounds great. Looks like a$$ lol.
@pepmasters-999
@pepmasters-999 Месяц назад
OK, was left unstirred by the look of this. The Gibson 12-string headstocks always look "doofy" (to steal a certain person's word), the colour didn't appeal and I'm kind of meh about firebirds. But then it sounded truly great and the colour looked better in the lighting for the playing section. Kind of interesting (also really like the neck-through SG 12 string, headstock aside).
@christophervaldez8746
@christophervaldez8746 Месяц назад
May the force be with you!
@bradconklin2878
@bradconklin2878 Месяц назад
Dano makes a good affordable electric 12 string.
@em001868
@em001868 17 дней назад
Maybe the point of these is that there will be a very limited run of them based on orders and then in the future we will have a massive price hike on a rare model. 😀
@Thomtommie
@Thomtommie Месяц назад
Awesome
@jefffixesit60
@jefffixesit60 Месяц назад
Being a complete weirdo when it comes to Gibson, I have always preferred the non-reverse Firebird. Baseball-bat neck, 12 string, non-reverse 'Bird with awesome sounding pickups, amazing color, sign me up!... That is, as soon as we can get an Epiphone IBG version for ~$1,700😁
@thesnapperkeeper
@thesnapperkeeper Месяц назад
I love the non reverse firebirds,not the 12 strings but…😂
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Месяц назад
How do you tune a 12 string?
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
Bottom 4 are octaves - top two are doubles
@TranceMasterJack
@TranceMasterJack Месяц назад
One string at a time. 🤪
@ChrisShortyAllen
@ChrisShortyAllen Месяц назад
Strum listen tune.
@drapedup76
@drapedup76 Месяц назад
Fender needs to answer with a true XII reissue
@hailmaryrecordings8255
@hailmaryrecordings8255 Месяц назад
Nice work on Darth Vader’s theme during the demo … Nerd!! 😂 Nice guitar … keep it.
@BrandonAlexander-sj2qm
@BrandonAlexander-sj2qm Месяц назад
The Gibson Garage posted this new model on instagram over a day ago
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
Yes, 3 days after launch
@Kahuna54
@Kahuna54 Месяц назад
Hey Trogly 👋🏻
@FuzzyDancingBear
@FuzzyDancingBear Месяц назад
I want it
@skidudek2
@skidudek2 Месяц назад
LOL, I got that Starwars thing for May the 4th be with you.
@roberthoffecker7223
@roberthoffecker7223 Месяц назад
I cannot imagine who would buy a new 12-string that wasn't a Rick or a Guild. Tone is pure Roger McQuinn. The color, though, is cool. I think it's the same as my 1964 Oldsmobile F-85.
@dwite02
@dwite02 Месяц назад
Nice
@allendesomer
@allendesomer Месяц назад
I love the sound, and I think it's brilliant to offer this otherwise less desirable body style as a 12 string. I don't collect guitars, so a 12 string for my use would have to be a low-budget work horse. This one really has me wishing anyway.
@robnamowicz8073
@robnamowicz8073 Месяц назад
Who will be the first to reverse the strings so the Ricky chime is there?
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 Месяц назад
Howsabout a 12-string Explorer with an extended hockey stick headstock ! GOOFAW !
@Trog
@Trog Месяц назад
That’d be fun as a one-off
@jfinester
@jfinester Месяц назад
Carvin actually did a 12-inline headstock in the late-‘80s. Goofy as hell.
@TheAndrewmcnelis
@TheAndrewmcnelis Месяц назад
The dot inlays make it look cheap.
@gregoryh4601
@gregoryh4601 Месяц назад
Gibson sure tight with added any extra for that Price. Labor Cost must went up again.
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