Gift of Gab: This spell nobody uses is cool.  

I can just imagine two brothers, each of which found a different method of immortality, that just bicker back and forth from two sides of the city’s underbelly for eternity.

@@MrMaradok if you've ever watched the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (the new sabrina the teenage witch series), the aunties do this!

@shadows2468 a team fortress 2 inspired evil campaign where you're mercenaries working for a lich, who wants you to destroy his lich brother's stuff would be great, the DM would have to create rivals for the party. Eventually its revealed that there's a 3rd lich brother with an army of undead who is effectively the campaign's bbeg, forcing the party and their rivals to team up, but eventually lose, with both their employer's phylacterys being destroyed. The party is then hired by a 4th lich, who wants them to fix her phylactery. It turns out that the bbeg is also having the same issues with his phylactery, putting the 2 in a race to acquire the resources needed to repair them. The bbeg hires a band of old mercenaries to compete against the party, the leader of these mercenaries hijacks the bbeg's phylactery and attains lichdom, forcing the party to fight him.

Book club, they probably copy each other's spells and duck with their cloning chambers for laughs

​@@badideagenerator2315 can I nick this perhaps?

It's like an old school horror movie, the silence made it even more gruesome.

Can't cast verbal spells, Mind Spike is a great final fuck-you to a villain who thinks that Silencing the party will make their Teleport exit a flawless departure. Never fails to surprise the DM when you say "Somatic component only".

Somebody must have found his main stash and smashed all the other jars!

@@zoelio999 Or someone stole one of his clone jars and put it in their own room. Either way, he stole their magic pot, so it's all good in the end.

It’s the return of Trevorrrr. ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ And Ghost Pig.

@@LocalMaple Nobody helps out like Ghost Pig!

@@LocalMaple The magic pot probably belongs to Ghost Pig then. I can't imagine Trevor smoking that stuff.

PC: "Well, I feel like this negotiation has started with a definite lean on the power balance. Perhaps we can begin with providing me some clothes or a sheepskin so I can stop dripping on your floor while we have our discussion?"

Meanwhile, the other players are rolling up new characters, I guess.

@@Tiyev nah they are probably trying to find their missing party member who didn't show up to a planned group meeting or something cause they were in a dragons hoard

"If you have my canopic jar, I can assume you have every single other item in my possession. Only, half of them are cursed and the other half were cursed by me, so that sounds like a good place to begin."

"I didn't! That was a joke too!"

*BURRRRRPPP* "I didn't!"

The killer wouldn't respond with "How did you know?" They would laugh at you for making a baseless accusation.

@@TheGregamonster Depends. Given the way the spell works, each target would believe you only questioned one person because you'd keep replacing your accusation with something innocuous. So, to the perspective of the killer, you were monologuing about something else then accused them out of the blue. If the person can keep their cool, yes, they might play it off as a baseless accusation, but when you KNOW someone is trying to figure you out and they seem to effortlessly deduce your guilt, that can be pretty rattling. I'm not sure if you'd say "How did you know?", but you might be caught off guard enough to give away some good visual or audio clues.

​@@weezact7 Do keep in mind though that everyone who can hear you has to be 5ft away.

I still wasn’t sure how to actually use it, but this really clears it up.

Don't mean to to offend, but this creativity and briliance in social situations sounds like yo're ether a really good lawyer or a particulary dangerous sociopath. Yet your coment taught me way more than the vid up so thank you, guy i really hope not to meet&upset IRL

Except you have to say the sentence you're replacing what your originally said with out loud as the verbal component of the spell. So you say "You're the killer, aren't you? (By the way, do you like beer?)" Your target hears "By the way, do you like beer?" And answers yes. Everyone else hears "You're the killer, aren't you? By the way do you like beer?" and their response is rendered meaningless because they heard both questions and can assume they wouldn't casually respond yes to the accusation of murder. Rather than your target hearing one thing and everyone else hearing another, your target hears an abridged version while everyone else hears the full statement.

Unless you have access to 1 or more instances of Flaming Sphere.

@@AppleBiscuits And a dummy thicc opportunity attacker.

"Hey Altruicious, You want some ice cream?"

@Nick Figures.

Arcane lighting

he knew something was up and was having none of it

@@magmat0585 Oh, he actually had just enough of it. Front row seat, only needs some popcorn! But then again he was in the splash zone.

"Hi what's your name?" "Jim." *Gift of Gab* "Hello Jim." "How did you know my name?" "I know lots of things, Jim."

@@timetraveler_from_2012 Exactly this ^

"Salutations!" "Hello!" "You poisoned the king, and we know it!" "How dare you! GUA-" "Salutations!" "Good Morning!" "The poison was Blackspielnd!" "What was?" "Salutations!" "Greetings..." "Lord Jhioere has commanded you undo the poison, now!" "Wait, you know?! He told me to do what!?" "And he said the Prince Rewbdiout must be released and moved to the oxcart behind the east-westling corridor." "But we dont have the Prince...Hey!-" "Salutations!"...

Imagine an interrogation where the interrogators walk in, stare intently at you for about half an hour in complete silence, then they walk out having gathered every single bit of info they needed

@@tiggerbiggo That's horrifying. I love it. 😁 Just imagine an NPC who developed this reputation, too. You could introduce him as some strange, mysterious threat - as though he were a straight-up mind-reader. Rumors would spread about the source of his unholy power - the power to get information out of the best liars and diplomats in the world. Nobody knows how he does it, but he gets more information than the best spies and torturers in the land. That leads the public to suspect that what he does is worse than torture. People would be terrified of him - ESPECIALLY powerful people with something to hide. He could make quite a name for himself that way.

I imagine it as the words in that span of 6 seconds becomes lost from memory and the latter words end up being believed what filled that void of time in conversation. You couldn't say they forget that those 6 seconds ever happen because that could be abused to do something in those 6 seconds without repercussion through other senses unrelated to verbal communication alone.

There was a super OP minor psychic power in Dark Heresy that made someone forget the last 2 minutes of what happened. It was my first time playing the game when I played that psyker, but even then I knew that sounded ridiculously good.

Tell 'em... Dark Marge sent ya.

THIS. Whenever you need to cast a verbal spell on someone from short distance and aren't a sorcerer with Subtle spell, you can cast this right afterwards to cover it up.

@@jakubguziur7522 Mm, I'm not so sure it can be used to change the memory of a verbal spell component. The trigger listed in GoG's casting time is "when you speak to another creature", and verbal spell components are spoken to the Weave rather than to another creature.

That's an amazing idea, but why stop at suggestion? Geas lasts significantly longer; then there's the domination spells which allow full control. Zone of truth could allow you to sneakily interrogate more questionable characters without them knowing it. Antipathy & Sympathy would just be for the laughs though, subtly cursing someone in town to cause pandemonium.

@@XperimentorEES The cool thing with the Suggestion idea is that you can completely gaslight the victim. They could know you used Suggestion on them, but they could think you suggested them to for example "Do the right thing.". So when they shortly after kill the king, they may in fact blame themselves and not you. Using it with Geas could work in a similar way with a bit of luck, but would otherwise just be meaningless gaslighting for the sake of torturing or killing someone who can't figure out how to follow the command. Zone of Truth tells you that affected creatures are aware of the spell. So that wouldn't help. Antipathy/Sympathy already has a range of 60ft. So yeah, no use other than for example gaslighting someone into thinking that you did it by just verbally cursing them.

​@@MrSlothJunior I wasn't intending on any of them being tortuous, if anything I was trying to give more ideas for social and political role playing options instead of encouraging murderhobos. Geas offers more complex commands than suggestion, while letting them have free will unlike the domination spells; such as duping a sheriff into arresting every other visiting trader that comes into town for suspicion of being spies, while your group runs a black market monopoly scheme. But depending on the ruling of how gift of gab works, they'd either forget or get distracted from the revealing effect of zone of truth, granted more dm dependent but it might be an option if discussed prior to the investment. What story important character wouldn't have eyes ears or divination of suspicious activity outside of 30 feet? Even then it'd have other utilities such as; blockading guards with innocent bystanders while looking like mass hysteria, or make a beloved mayor seem evil for an easy overthrow, without relying on spamming mass suggestion nor worrying about any elves ignoring charms.

Yeah, 6 seconds isn't that much time to account for

ehehehehe 😈

I 100% believe this

Emily used it in far and flowers to epic effect

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@@wesnohathas1993 What do you mean?

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That's not how it works though. If you actually read the spell (or listened to the video even): "Those creatures then remember that you actually said the words you speak as the verbal component of the spell." Think about how much more powerful the spell would be if they simply forgot an entire period of 6 seconds.

@@DevinDTV It forces a gap, but only in the words that were spoken.

Ah. So it’s king crimson

human brains are extremely good at resolving inconsistencies in the raw sense data that they process in a way that you don't even notice most of the time. i assume other fantasy races have similar cognitive capacities (or deficiencies!)

@@dielfonelletab8711 Well said! I wonder whether there's more room for some spells that target other inconsistencies in humanoid cognition.

@@Drekromancer there may be some hidden fail condition realistically like people stick to being mad at you because they they don't want to admit that they reacted wrong or sometime you can't remember exactly what happened but you do remember that you are intelligent and weren't mentally unstable so you can guess why you would act like that and work backwards (only works if you are confident you haven't changed mentally or personality wise since then and you aren't delusional yourself Which you aren't qualified to tell for yourself) Basically there's a small chance it won't work coincidentally or there super intelligent wizard

Yeah, based on his description in the video (I haven't read the actual description), I assumed the subject(s) just remember you saying the one thing and recall it being only 6 seconds instead of 12. Maybe they remember a little dead air or awkward silence in there, but nothing significant enough to warrant suspicion. Honestly, think back to even your most RECENT conversation with someone. Chances are, you don't remember exactly what they said word for word. You might recall the general intent of what they said, but unless it was something really profound or impactful, the specifics are probably lost and there's things you've probably glossed over. Hell, THEY might not remember everything they said to you. I would imagine this just creates that effect, but accelerated.

@@kellynolen498 I don't know. 6 seconds isn't really long enough for something like anger at an insult to really set in as a "habit". Heck, sometimes people don't even process what you've said enough to REACT within 6 seconds. I'd think if you removed the reason for their anger after such a short duration, they'd either forget the anger entirely, or see it as some sort of passing emotional flash. MAYBE upon later reflection, they might get suspicious, but I don't think they would immediately unless they literally stopped everything they were doing to analyze it. If you keep the conversation moving, I doubt they'd have the time to dwell on it enough.

It just works

I mean, they ARE both wizards.

Power Word: Go Fuck Yourself was too controversial on the battlefield to complete development; early testing showed drastically increased rates of *ahem* ...organ... damage and all involved agreed to table it.

Oh man, Good catch.

But that would be dishonest...teehee

@alida flus Nah, I'm not really into playing with mysterious strangers or on roll20...

Except, you know. For all the people who are brutally murdered for things like necromancy components, or because they got the last chocolate chip ice cream at the ice cream truck.

I like the idea that it "works" but the person with keen mind is aware of what's happening and what was said both times.

This is my favourite kind of magic countering. One cover-all counterspell is so boring. Examples where spells have a very specific counter, like Magic Missile and Shield, are much more fun to me. So this idea that a very niche spell is countered by a single feat sounds really cool. One of the things I loved about playing "Sorcery! 3" was that casting certain spells would cancel out the effects of certain other spells. Pairs of opposite spells that on the surface don't have related effects, but the casting process for each has this special pairing.

You could also just use dream to harass them in their sleep with nightmares and potentially foil their long rest :U

Only useful if you don't need to sleep and can cast it repeatedly without hindering your spellcasting ability. Which is exactly what a warlock with pact of the tome + aspect of the moon can do (as long as your prey made the error of writing their name in your book of shadows and you're willing to waste a name slot for this). With enough dedication, you could even kill someone of exhaustion by harrassing them every hour or so

Comic Thanos would be proud.

@@sophiatrocentraisin Cast the dream spell, and use the nightmare effect to deny someone of their long rest

@@imUmoron Meh, takes a 5th level spell slot (granted, it can be used at the end of the day), you need to be at least 9th level to have this slot, and the target needs to fail both a wis save AND a con save to get exhaustion. If the target succeds both, they lose a point of exhaustion. On the other hand, the stupid pact of the tome/message combo is possible starting from level 5, with a build that a pact of the tome warlock might actually go for, even without this intention (so you don't need to severely hinder your character to pull off this ridiculous combo), and only needs for the target to fail an increasingly more difficult CON save every night if the DM allows it. Though, you could actually do both : harrass them for most of the night, then send a nightmare when you're close to the end. That way, you decrease the chance of a successful long rest (the DM would probably allow a test for the target of messages to be able to benefit from the effects of a long rest), with all the effects that stem from multiple nights in a row without a long rest. Plus, being a warlock, you probably have a 5th level spell slot to spare at the end of the day (at the cost of a learned and a memorized spell, but that's worth it). And yes, I'm not just talking "foiling a long rest" but "killing by exhaustion" there

oh that one is good

That is what it was renamed For the new release of d n d one

gablighting

And the worst part is that the players would know exactly what's going on but stopping it would be metagaming, so they can only sit there and seethe.

As if that would stop almost any player. Only the most dedicated would go along with it instead of finding a different reason not to deal with the NPC.

ULTRA underrated comment

or like the men in black flashy thingy

I liked the way they used it in Critical Role (during the short calamity series) Essentially a time reversal that can only be used for conversations

Or what if it’s like a small gap in their memory?

It killed Skank McGank too

I think he also uses it at start of video (you see his hand gestures and awkward pause? I think thats not the viewer but how HE perceivess what he is doing at the moment because of spell's influance

to be fair, it is written like poor homebrew; like many AcqInc spells are. Verbal components are no words with meaning, literally reshaping memory of each nearby creature of your choice without a saving throw is far beyond a 2nd-level spell, and the practical holes Skenk pointed out are another major design flaw.

@@illyon1092 I disagree. While it makes an exception to normal component rules, it's not like the official rules out of the PHB or other books don't have weird uses of components. Moreover, while the spell is powerful in its ability to disrupt a person's memory without a save, it's got such a narrow application that it's hardly broken. You have to really work to make it usable.

Any spell with royalty components *deserves* disrespect. Royalty components shouldn't exist.

​@@eric_moore-6126 Jim Darkmagic: *laughs while shaking a coffer full of coins*

@@eric_moore-6126 I don't have a problem with royalty components. Functionally it's like saying "Material components: 2 gold coins that are consumed on the casting of this spell" I don't really have an issue with Gift of Gab specifically, but my main concern is that if you offer gift of gab, then you open up the floor to debates over allowing all the other nonsense that IS both badly balanced and vaguely worded. If you're playing AL, then it's PHB +1, and even with the unbalanced nonsense in Acq Inc, it's not worth giving up the stuff in XGtE, SCAL, or TCoE. If you're doing a home game, it's much easier to just do a broad limit of "All books EXCEPT Acq Inc and Morty&Rick, though I'm tempted to toss in just about ANY IP-specific Handbook in that ban. Ravnica, Eberron, Mythic Odyssey, etc. If you aren't playing in that world, don't play with that book.

There is a slight possibility.

Na, man. Massacring an entire tavern with a painful, skin-melting burst of flame just to get fresh corpses to reanimate is totally a neutral thing. 😜

Skenk McGenk: Confirmed Chaotic Evil since the Mage Hand video, his first appearance.

that was the first use I though actually LOL

Not actually an enchantment though - he says as much in the video

@@Darasilverdragon It is an enchantement spell. Just not a charm effect.

The thing is everyone outisde of the five feet range heard you ask both question and in the regular order so as far as they are concerned you jsut asked an unreasonable question to the king, he didn't answer, with the inky thing weird about that being that he didn't get upset, then asked a second reasonabe question to which he answered yes. as for anyine in the fuve feet as far as they are concerned you jsut asked the secnd questions. So it doesn't really work in your example or anything of the sort.

This mostly happens, ime, in cases with a time crunch component, like if you have to transcribe something in real time. Having done some transcription from video, I do not experience what you're talking about at all. It's also one of my particular peeves in others; when they just make up things and decide you said them like they weren't really paying attention and just caught stray words here and there. I'd assume I do the same thing, but approximately nobody has ever pointed out me doing it, so I can only assume I either don't, am abnormal in my noticing other people doing it (concerning for various reasons), or do so very rarely.

@@seigeengine the difference in experience might also relate to video quality. I tend to work with material from low quality equipment, and only one half of the partcipants knows how you need to speak tp be clearly caught on a mike. The other half tends to be nervous and emotional.

How do you verbally tell someone something without speaking?

@@addchannelname2052it just replaces the memory

Ooh, ingenious

THAT is a prime use for this spell

As cool as it is that you actually use this spell, the really cool part of your post is that you have a band! Now I want my next D&D party to be a traveling band!

@@Comicsluvr King Maxz Licht'Zhan, rockstar! She's my favourite PC by miles, she means so much to me. The rest of the party aren't actually part of the band, that's just maxz' thing

Funny

There's a much more mundane example of this that you're probably familiar with, maybe even heard of. Whenever you look at the second hand of a clock, the first tick appears much slower than the rest, almost seemingly frozen for a moment. This happens because when your eyes move to focus on a new target, your brain cuts that part out and sorta fills in the gap retroactively with whatever you are now looking at.

they don't need to become resistant. Sometimes magic should be magic, and not just systemic. I get what you mean as an option, but you don't need to balance it and everything. If they start picking up oddities because someone did not do it well, they will find out and prevent the issue...guessing like Skenk McGhenk's own brother that something is up with that compliment sandwhich.

Now that you mention it; that does look like Envy's base form he was cutting open. Also, I believe you mean FULLmetal. Eh?

@@videogollumer I see what you did there.. ;)

Totally.

Mind affecting (i.e. charm) then?

You'd need to be in a 5 feet distance though. But that can be done by, like presenting some sort of "evidence" to the witness and asking them something about it.

That was my thought too, but someone pointed out that, when casting a spell, you aren't actually speaking TO a person. So, based on the description as-written, that may not be covered by GoG

@@weezact7 I am not sure what version description you might be referencing, but I see that it doesn't specify that you have to talk to anyone, just that it effects listeners.

PC: I offer my soul for unlimited power [I offer a bagel for unlimited power] Devil: you have yourself a deal

The issue is that there is no mechanism for hiding somatic components.