Gigabyte Aorus B550 Chipset Motherboards - PCIe Resources 

Hi James F, Welcome! Good to hear from You! That makes two of Us! I've thought about doing something for BuildOrBuy on Zoom or even Live Streaming however Answering Subscribers Questions has me busy as it is. Hard to believe We use to do that every Wed. A way of life! I miss seeing everyone. And after where We were meeting was going to start charging, that also was a problem with many of Our Members who said no. Then everything else changed. And here We are. Really Appreciate Your Support! If You have any Computer Questions, I'm still doing what Me and Joe were doing, trying to help Computer Users through BuildOrBuy! We were blessed to have had Joe Whinnery working with Us. That was an honor and a privilege.

@@BuildOrBuy One of these years I will be ready for another one and I will get my list together and run it by you. The one from 2016 is working fine, but it apparently will not run Windows 2011. I am not in a hurry to run it anyway but I realize sooner or later I will have to.

Hi Stuart Sherman, Welcome! Absolutely! Crazy, right. Not enough PCIe Resources! Vendors make Us dig for this and We are glad to oblige! Users need to know what they are and are NOT getting. Not a fan of shared PCIe Resources! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

Hi Сергей Хорецкий, Welcome! Thank You! Always a fascinating Topic to see how everything is allocated. The What, Why and How of PCIe Resource allocations! Appreciate Your Comments! Next Up, choosing an ASUS Thunderbolt 4 Motherboard from a Subscriber Question!

Hi Santiago Glew, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! The B550 Vision-D - Thunderbolt 3? Or Z590 Vision-D with Thunderbolt 4? Thanks for Sharing! This helps Us to make better Videos!

Hi stkrrauch, Absolutely! We're all about Answering Subscribers Questions! Fascinating looking over how a Motherboard allocates PCIe Resources. Than You for asking! Hope this Video helps to provide clarity! All of this is a labor of love! We get past the marketing and into the facts. Our Goal is to Make it Work and Keep it Simple! Looks can be deceiving! We tend to look at a Motherboard the way We did 10 years go and things have changed. Let's hope this Video as You said, will help other Computer User considering this Chipset. It's neutered.

Four years of utube gamer channels never mentioning how few resources are on desktop boards and only mentioning TR as a product for guys that need 64 cores, left people in the dark. Huge increases in cpu lanes and memory channels were never explained to the viewers. Last year it started. Guys were screaming that quad cards are no good. An Asus or Gigabyte quad card only sees two of their NVMe drives. Only Gill explained there using a board with only an X8 GEN4 PCIe socket.

GILL ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS. Utube gamer review channels leave it to other commenters to answer a viewers question or attack you for asking about what the review left out. ONLY GILL will make a video to demonstrate your questions answer!😅 A channel's fans will disagree with you but never offers any proof. That way the channel never lied to you. The channel never lied to you he just left details out and the commenter (always a fake name) was the only one that lied.

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Thank You! Never thought that Quad card Topic would be such a big deal. I figured esoteric but important enough to share at the time. Then all of a sudden everyone wants to install a Quad card yet they had no clue what was going on and why it would not work. And so the Journey began. That's why I think addressing all of these Motherboard questions this way will help Viewers realize, know better, do better! This issue with PCIe Resources is like IRQs were at one time. Let's hope Viewers will do their Research now before rather than after, once they understand. This Video tomorrow is another good example. An Intel CPU with 10 Cores and 16 PCIe 3.0 Lanes or a CPU with 8 Cores and 20 PCIe 4.0 Lanes on a Z590 Chipset with 24 PCIe 3.0 Lanes. Terrible trade-offs just for Thunderbolt 4. Marketing! A good intro before We cover Z690! And still a let down! We have Viewers already asking about it or waiting for it. When what they need is a TRX40! If AMD were to ever figure out Marketing, they would be dangerous! And hopefully the Amfaltec Squid right after tomorrow's Video!

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Thank You! Appreciate Your Insight. And that's hard to understand. If someone takes the time to ask a Question, We need to Answer! And sometimes a Video is a better way to do that so We can help more Subscribers! We all learn by doing! Better to help, that's how We learn! Besides, I Love my Subscribers! And... Getting into these Specs is absolutely fascinating!

Hi Mee 2# G, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comment! Thanks for Watching!

Hi trailerofdead, Thank You for Watching! Appreciate Your Comments! After so many requests about a particular Motherboard Brand and Model with a particular Chipset, the best way to respond is a Video to explain how all of that is laid out! Keep it Simple and Make it Work! Let's hope that will help other Viewers who may ask later!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for your good work too! That is what we want to watch and want to know. Yes, watch the best show. best regards

HI@@Trailerofdead, Appreciate Your Comments! I'm honored! These Details matter! Helps when We can extrapolate and makes sense of the important aspects of a Motherboard! All about those scarce PCIe Resources! And covering 3 Motherboards should give a sense of how that works out. All about Answering Subscribers' Questions! Stay Tuned!

Hi vibin kv, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments!

Hi Klaus Borge, Welcome! Sounds like a wicked setup! All of that just for an RDMA experiment. Or proof of concept. Interesting rabbit. Yes, the TRX40 is a best solution for most but most do not realize the benefits yet! Yes, also agreed! Absolutely! The WRX80 Platform, right on target! Those new CPUs We are waiting on, We have to let Intel go 1st. More noise when that bubble bursts. This next year should be interesting for Computer Technologies! PCIe 5.0 then PCIe 6.0! Expect PCIe 5.0 to be short lived making the current TRX40 and WRX80 with newer CPUs an even better solution! Thanks for Sharing! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!

Hi Max Hughes, Interesting thought! I'd say give it 6 months. Looks like Threadripper Pro CPU prices are at a premium right now! That price on the ASUS is enticing! And the Gigabyte WRX80 remains out of stock at the moment on Amazon. ETA according to NewEgg 11-12-2021.

Ni Nicholas Barnes, Welcome! Interesting Question. After checking and verifying 3 different ways, unfortunately no. According to Motherboard supported CPUs as Listed below, PCPartPicker System Builder and AMD CPU Chipset support also Listed below, all are the same. Your CPU is Supported on X470, B450 and A320 Chipsets only. 1. Gigabyte Aorus B550 V2 Motherboard www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=7520 2. 2nd Gen Ryzen 7 2700X Desktop Processor | AMD www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-2700x Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

Hi Max, Good point! Have You seen some of the Z690 Motherboard Specs We can now read. Bits and pieces again. We'll wait until after the Launch on 11-4-2021. TRX40 and WRX80 are still a better value as You have Described. This is going to be an interesting examination of PCIe Resources.

@@BuildOrBuy I'll read what I can find but still waiting for your evaluation to catch all the stuff left out of the other reviews.

Hi@@maxhughes5687, I'm honored. Here's what We have to work with: Intel Z690 Chipset Product Specifications ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/218833/intel-z690-chipset.html Products formerly Alder Lake ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/147470/products-formerly-alder-lake.html Intel Core i912900K Processor 30M Cache up to 5.20 GHz Product Specifications ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134599/intel-core-i912900k-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html Then We'll compare those Specs with Manufacturers implementations to know what's up with that. Fascinating! Intel Alder Lake CPU... 1. 16 CPU Cores. 2. CPU supports 128GBs RAM. 3. Max # of Memory Channels: 2 4. DDR4 / DDR5 5. Direct Media Interface (DMI) Revision: 4 6. DMI Lanes: 8 7. PCIe 4.0 & PCIe 5.0 8. PCIe Configurations: Up to 1x16+4, 2x8+4 [No Full Bifurcation] 9. 20 PCIe Lanes Intel Z690 Chipset: 1. 2 DIMMs per channel 2. Direct Media Interface (DMI) Revision: 4 3. DMI Lanes: 8 4. PCIe 3.0 & 4.0 5. PCIe Configurations: x1,x2,x4 6. 28 PCIe Lanes Now how are We suppose to get excited about that? Interesting. We'll use that as We Pick Motherboards to Discuss options. This will be fun! There's going to be a lot of confusion on this!

@@BuildOrBuy Thanks. 28 cpu lanes at ?some speed? and no info on cpu's that can use this board. This may be a buy one to test it deal. It's like no reviews until pre-launch sales and release date. They'll be gone before any reviews hit utube. I guess it is possible to have your head and your wallet up your axx at the same time.

Hi@@maxhughes5687 Exactly! Good one! Implementation may be different from the Spec. This will be like buying Slag paint at an auction! There will be lots of Buyers remorse after the RMA runs out! We can deduce and extrapolate from the Specs. Reading from 1 Gigabyte Motherboard manual I've seen, I do not believe what I'm reading. Meaning, surely once product is shipping, those PDFs will be refreshed to represent actual Specs otherwise, something is not right with the documentation. Such as DDR5, yes. M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 only. However, 1 PCIe 5.0 Slot, Shared. That's a mixed bag. Of those 3 Listed, an M.2 should be possible if there are 20 PCIe 5.0 Lanes available. I'll go over that again this weekend.

Hi Max, Or a dedicated circuit! Or A Generator! Crazy, right. And the new GPUs, a new Power Tap. Suppose to be not only higher wattage required but more efficient with a single Power Tap. We shall see! Looks like ASUS thinks We're all running Dual RTX 3090s! OK, for a WRX80 Build, I'm interested! We're storage junkies! One GPU. Keep it Simple!

Hi Max, Had to share this! 1st PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe Quad card announced by MSI! videocardz.com/newz/msi-shows-off-pcie-gen5-m-2-expander-z-card-for-next-gen-storage-up-to-128gb-s

@@BuildOrBuy I don't see dual gpus as affordable. 1200 Watts is all I've got for my my TR PRO build. If in a few months GEN5 are no more money than the GEN4 drives we have now and backwards compatable, then I'll go for GEN5 NVMe.

@@BuildOrBuy Thanks for link. One X16 SOCKET to one X4 GEN5 NVMe drive. That's what the photo looked like. It's like a PLX chip backwards. It's not Thunderbolt and four lanes to a huge storage drive. It's all the resources for a GPU on one drive. No bottle neck to that drive!

HI@@maxhughes5687, Very much Agree on that. 1 GPU makes more sense when We look at not just the Cost but the Resources allocated from PSU to Slots to Applications. 1200 Watts, that's a lot of PSU on a 15 amp circuit! Yes, We can both see that handwriting on the wall too. Why purchase an M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 Drive when in a few months We can choose a PCIe 5.0 M.2 NVMe which will be backwards compatible. Very hard to justify even a 3rd Generation PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe Drive right now like the Seagate FireCuda 530. Why buy slower when faster is coming unless We just need the space. Even still, better to wait. More options! I hope doing these 'what if' options for possibility thinking will help Viewers think! Like zooming in on details then zooming out on the overview and say ok, here's what We know. What will help Us to be more productive! Just because We can does not mean We should. What's possible, ok. And what's practical.

Hi Juan Calle, Welcome! Congrats on what You have! Good start! When We know better, We hopefully do better! A 16 Core CPU. If You want a Z690 Motherboard, We need to wait until the official Release on November 4th, 2021. Otherwise everything is up for conjecture. However, looks like the initial offerings will be DDR4 only. No DDR5 and no M.2 NVMe PCIe 5.0 Drives until next Year according to Phison. If You Build right now for a 16 Core CPU, suggest AMD. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

What's available right now from Intel or AMD desktop PC's don't have very many cpu lanes. In fact one 3090 and one firecuda 530 would use all of them. Gill has covered all the resources and what can run on GEN4 lanes with a Threadripper TRX40. This is just my opinion. Right now a used TRX40 might be a good buy and put a 3090 and a Firecuda 530 running at max speeds. With the new TR PRO out soon and the WRX80 boards already out a TRX40 user might get the upgrade. I would watch the used prices.

@@maxhughes5687 wow thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question I really appreciate the knowledge you are giving and been giving me. Def will look into the used motherboard you are suggesting. Your doing great work and helping a lot of people understand this stuff.

@@Camilo316 Hold on. I may reconsider. I'm watching 10850K reviews. It looks like a great gamer set up. I just don't know what your using it for.

@@maxhughes5687 thats basically it but wouldn’t I just be utilizing half of the firecuda530 speed? And the motherboard I have is a dorado OC and it only supports pci e 3.0 as well as cpu correct me if I’m wrong.

Hi Max Hughes, Oops! I did it again! I'm glad You've mentioned that. Have You seen any details on the new PCIe 5.0 Motherboards? A lot of junk is coming out DDR4 then DDR5. And no M.2 NVMe PCIe 5.0 Drives according to Phison until next year and Phison is already working on the PCIe 6.0 M.2 NVMe Controllers! I'll have to find that article! I think it's from the MSI and Phison Presentation about PCIe 5.0. The big eye opener was when talking to Highpoint. They asked How We would Test and I told them. HighPoint said everyone was Testing their 8 Drive card on a x570 Chipset. I said, impossible. That was a very dumb idea. Guess they did not like my answer. The emperor has no clothes! This was an interesting Video that needed doing! Just how Vendors want Computer Users to Build less so they will Build more often. I can see We're going to be busy next year going over Motherboards and PCIe Resources! The TRX40 or the WRX80 are still the best Choices! Success and Best Wishes! Always Appreciate Your Comments! Here's that link: Phison Talks Next-Gen PCIe Gen 5, Gen 6 & Gen 7 SSDs - Active Cooling Solutions, L4 Cache, New Interfaces, Up To 14W Gen 5 & 28W Gen 6 TDPs wccftech.com/phison-talks-next-gen-pcie-gen-5-gen-6-gen-7-ssds-active-cooling-solutions-l4-cache-new-interfaces-up-to-14w-gen-5-28w-gen-6-tdps/amp/ Next Up, Choosing an ASUS Thunderbolt 4 Motherboard based on a Subscriber Question! Stay Tuned!

@@BuildOrBuy No news on AM5 socket/ZEN4/PCIe GEN5/GEN5 NVMe M.2 drives. Just TRX40 board owners mad about no ZEN3 for the TR. It's the fault of asshole that will by a TR PRO CPU and a WRX80 mobo. Of course I'm sticking with my X399 and would never consider jumping past the TRX40. Honest Ingin

@@BuildOrBuy "DDR4-2133 memory also offers around 14 GBps speeds per channel". Would that put 8 channel DDR4-2133 at 112GBps? How about 3200C14 on eight channels? U know I hate bottlenecks.

Hi@@maxhughes5687 , I hear You! The primary system I Render with is x399. The TRX40 is the best offering of technology in price and performance. As We get closer to PCIe 5.0, anything else is getting difficult to justify. MSI and Phison have stated no M.2 NVMe PCIe 5.0 Drives until next year. And this 1st round for Intel on Z690 is DDR4. Smoke and mirrors. I think AMD wants to let Inel have their moment then steal all the Thunder! We can wait!

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Good one! 8 channels is a wild proposition. I'd like to Build just for proof of concept. But the newer CPU will make this a much more value proposition. I'm eager to dive into the Z690 Specs after November 4th, 2021! PCIe 5.0 and nothing available to make use of it! We shall see!

Hi Sr Chalice, You've crossed that bridge. You've made that connection. You see the handwriting on the wall! All of this is an education process. Doing these 'what ifs' for possibility thinking before rather than after the fact. An eye opener! An awakening! All of this funny business with the Chipset is egregious! Helps to look at the Specs and extrapolate the facts that matter. Then step back and say, wait a minute. And that's where We are with anything below the TRX40 HEDT. Too many Viewers are still looking at Computer Motherboards through Specs from 10 years ago. The TRX40 HEDT and the WRX80 Workstation are significantly different. Knowledge should be Shared! We learn by Doing! PCIe Resource allocation is a fascinating Topic! Appreciate Your Comments! Next Up, from a Subscribers Question, choosing an ASUS Thunderbolt 4 Motherboard! Stay Tuned!