You can tell Bj a real one because he was genuinely upset Mccants was trying to classify himself as 15th player on the roster and he wanted him not to think so down on his situation. Love ppl like that around you
McCants was lying anyhow. He wasn't the 15th man in his 2nd or 4th year. The fact that he came with that Gil was using Google argument showed how much of a liar he was.
people like to drag brandon and make it seem like an emotional guy or whatever, but he proved he was a real nigga trying to convince Rashad he was worth more than trying to give himself that label to look right
yeah that ninja need to get over that shit already. Everyone usually has to tip toe around it because they know hes to sensitive to take any criticism. 4 years is not the longest time as a pro...like with the pat bev shit, he thought he had the spot and seems oblivious about why his career went flat. They try to tell him but he don't like to accept he may be wrong.
That's y I don't like McCants like dat, he entertaining but he loves to bash other athletes careers and talk about their game, but as soon as you talk about his career he gets in his feelings 😂
Regarding Bronny, I'm here to say us LAKER fans been putting every player under a microscope since D'Angelo Russell in 2015. We damn near had a parade when Kuzma and Lonzo won the summer league championship. So this Bronny scrutiny actually not that far off.
@@buckbeezi6263we should be 😂 we bashing Bronny he’s a rookie ! Max lewis is in year 2 ! How the fuck is Knect already better than him and Bronny had at least one impactful game ! Where is max Lewis 👀 he was drafted higher and he’s a 2nd round pick
Mfs deflecting from the fact that Lebron said: “My son better than half of nba players” lmaoo kinda remind me when he said “ not one not two not three…”😂
@@Kingkyle136 He should’ve just told the truth about Bronny’s skill level. Not only is Bronny’s game trash, but so are all of these excuses y’all come up with.
@@andrianminer8711bro what. He was emotional cuz he had his son back in town with him and they both thought he was gonna last some years there. They got comfortable with being around each other again nigga wtf. That’s a beautiful father-son relationship they have and to see him get traded so fast without a chance is tough. Know the context about a situation before you try making some slick ass remark bozo.
He acting like his son died, i remember commented on that, he sad cuz he had to leave n go to cold as Philly, not be in sunshine LA, like why Kmart crying over his son getting traded from LA to Philly last season was beyond on me 🤦🏾♂️..
All 3 of these comments are typed by pieces of 💩 he was upset cuz his son was being sent somewhere else other than where he’s from which was LA he couldn’t see his son on the daily nothing to do with better players. My bad tho you lil girls was raised by emotional bit*** so you don’t know what a real father looks like or sounds like or feels. A bunch of punks raised by females
Cause they afraid of bron and rich paul gettin them blacklisted. Props to mccants for staying real. Gil of all people know Bronny a bum at basketball. Its FACTS
@@AABBCCD1234 lol so you go to another comment and say the same bs but don't wanna answer me when I say WTF is rich gonna do?!? He ain't no drug kingpin. How does Rashad keep it real when he got caught in like 11 lies in one episode. Y'all old heads think keeping it real is "hey you're my friend let's lie together to make ourselves look good" smh I'm glad y'all getting caught up in them lies
yeah they always contradict themselves and say ''media'' does this and does that.... they do it and basically are the new media. Gil always has controversy topics on his personal channel.
Because people can't get over the 55th pick .. how many times do you scroll RU-vid and see a basketball topic and someone says "Bronny 🗑️... Lebum.... LeGM.... Bronny rookie of the year". Just to get engagement
@@tj2nasty4ya83 who critiques a 19 year old? And who critiques a 19 year old who's a 55th pick? Plus none of them have actually critiques anything. They keep saying he doesn't deserve it that's it. Best they got is his poor shooting. problem is there are first round draft picks who are having games just as bad. Summer league ain't good or long enough for real evaluation. We say this every year. Said it with Wemby last year.
@@JetSetta313You are wrong and emotional. Kenyon and Gil are lying to cover for Bronny. They went all around the world with nonsense to say that no one has ever cared about a 55th pick like they do Bronny. The point is ..he is the ONLY 55th pick who’s father GOT HIM ON THE TEAM…so of course people are going to have expectations. You are delusional. Rashad is just not popular, because he was not a ‘star’…and in this era..’men’ like you worship the stars..whether they are wrong or right. You are blinded by stars like a teenage chick over a boy band. He is getting judged because his father got him a job. No other 55 pick got a job from their dad in the NBA. Stop the nonsense.
Because he was wrong. Rashad saying he felt like a 15th man is like when rich people say they know what it feels like to struggle with money because they only made 1 million dollars last year instead of 10 million.
@@marcelmarshall4240 Bruh just say you mad and hate bronny.. You just wrote a book in the comments, we see who's the emotional one by your actions 😂 I read that in a crying voice 😂
I 100% agree with Brandon that active players shouldn’t have Podcasts. Not only is it a distraction but the space is getting watered down. I personally like to hear about stories & experiences after a player has retired or is out no longer in the league. I also agree with Kenyon about just speaking on personal situations & current events around the world rather than other players and teams. You don’t need to start a podcast to address something that isn’t true; there are plenty of outlets to control your narrative.
Hating bro .. some was warranted but he normally turn to a pretzel to hate on something. “LeBron 77 points 36 rebounds 47 assists 18 blocks 19 steals. Yeah but he shot 68% from free throw.”
@@AABBCCD1234 stop ducking me and leaving the same stupid ass comment on everything. Rich Paul gets kids paid. He ain't no drug kingpin. Ain't nobody scared of tiny ass rich Paul.
@@FergJ86 ye nah the personal shots was def foul. Specially from KM. Got me thinkin if sumn went down before they went on air cause there was def some tension.
@@SW33T_Dr34M I never focused my life to be a NBA player so 🤷🏾♂️ Only corn balls use that argument that’s like saying i can’t call a chefs food wack cuz i’m not a chef
And Be Wrong as Hell..He knocking these dudes because Podcast weren't out in the 90's😂 Gil grew up in the Valley Tho and BJ is from Compton..You can see the difference
@@Mitch_Feralwhat did they say bad about jaylen Brown. They just said that it's his opinion and he should be allowed to have his opinion. We all could see what words he mouth so I don't really see them being against Jaylen. I missed that part.
This is my favorite basketball podcast by far. This show is just genuine man, the emotions are raw and the opinions are raw. This cast is damn near perfect.
@@shibbyreviewseverythingno he didn’t .Demar said there was a lot of sorry mfs in the nba . Lebron tweeted QUOTE” bronny definitely better than some of these dudes in the league”. Stop getting on here lying
@@FergJ86 doesn't matter. People coach in the league who never played. People run successful front offices without ever having played a game. Just bc I played overseas doesn't mean I can't comment on a lower iq (YES IF YOU WATCHED HIS GAME) player. If you know the game, you know the game. That said, yes mccants had a decent career but his peers on this panel have pointed out numerous times that attitude and iq were shortcomings
ECF and FInals MVP, Champion, and one of the highest paid players but he's "Hating"? He's not hating he just got caught saying what every former or current NBA player is scared to say.
That ECF MVP and finals mvp went 5-26 his first 3 summer league games when he got into the league. Hmmm looks familiar doesn’t it. I guess he wasnt a pro either until he worked on his game.
Gil proved mccants point. Mccants said the 15th man matter and gil proved him right when he said he said he was the 15th man but got to start cause 2 people got hurt and the last back up didn’t want to start
Bcuz normally teams hit free agents or make a trade. U can not give me one situation other than Gil bcuz he said it of a 15th man playing meaningful mins consistently.
Jaylen Brown: *says what virtually every person in the NBA draft process, every commentator, and almost every comment section has said, but privately to his date, kind of mildly, out in public, where someone with a camera read his lips* Gils Arena: How Can SO MUCH HATE Fit Into One Man, Jaylen Brown????
They're capping hard for Bronny smh. Playing both sides of the fence. They say Bronny shouldn't have expectations then say he's good enough. Which one is it?
@@shibbyreviewseverything its not the point. Fkin bronny doest even deserve 55th pick. He 400th pick at best. He just got it because it is hes DADS team. Even got guaranteed contract for it. Stop that 55th pick bshit like he deserv it. FKIN WATCH SUMMER LEAGUE IT SHOWS!!
I love these dudes man....Brandon j is hilarious trying to comprehend the discussions (in a good way, like funny mannerisms), Rashaad is always challenging the conversations and bringing in a different perspective to think about that you didn't think about before, KMart is intelligent and very objective and brings facts, and gil is just a pure legend you didn't think you would relate to in real life but then realize he's similar to u.....BJ, Rashaad, Kmart, and Gil, I love u homies so much, keep doing what ur doing. u guys r the best
Rashad cooked yall with the 15th spot argument. And yall weren't even arguing the same thing. Shad was arguing the 15th spot on the roster. Gil was arguing the specific players that were the 15th guy. That's why Gil kept looking up players from different teams to make it seem like no one knew them. Rashad wasn't arguing their popularity. He was saying that specific spot matters because there can be a scenario in which you get in the game and have to perform. Even if it's not likely it can still happen which is why the spot matters. And his prime example was Gilbert Arenas himself. He proved that if you stay ready as the 15th guy that's literally what makes you matter. IS IT OBVIOUS?!
The actual spot matters cuz it's thousands of mf's who would kill to have that spot! College kids, G-League players, overseas players waiting for a call! Every single roster spot on an nba team matters because there aren't many spots! But yeah the player occupying the spot (12-15), doesn't really matter cuz he don't get no pt, nobody but they family is watching then. He dont matter until he does something with his opportunity to play
Yes and No every roster matters bc if you don't get in the game you never have a opportunity for what Gil did. So you saying what you felt and feel but what are the facts
McCann's got to start doing some of his own fact-checking. Because he let Gilbert do him like this and it makes it come off like a liar when gilby just saying anything and nobody checks him.
@@skymav6 he did , he told stories about how players & coaches would still help him as the 15th man which contradicts his idea of nobody caring about the 15th man
@@Atribecalledsuccess You say that but he literally read out his stats and didnt play until all the craziness happened and the first game he started was for 2 minutes. Things can go on behind the scenes and people can help you keep your mind in the game but that doesn't mean you're gonna play.
He compared their stats on a professional level it doesn’t matter what you did in amateur level it’s about what you do on the professional stage and they performed damn near the same
Not a shot it’s the truth that’s what wrong with yall when he talk about players calling them trash then somebody call him out on his career they wrong ? No McCants stay throwing shots at players the same guy you defending said he respect Reggie miller legacy more than lebron legacy that’s the dumbest shxt I ever heard!
I dont give F what nobody say. Lebron paying this guy Gilbert Areans..Look how they frame the Title...Jalen Brown Hating on Bronny...Thats his opinion like everybody else but Gil is the resistance for Lebron...Jalen said it in the most respectful way
I've been saying..clutch sports and lebron gave gil a bag to praise lebron and his son...he praises bron and talks down about other super stars....gil argues like a bruad...he trolls to get views..can't fuq w him
Nah, Gil, Kenyon and BJ changing it up now because earlier this year they were definitely calling out the nepotism about Thanasis taking up a valuable roster spot and that the best interest for the team would be for them to let him go - but of course, team owners were looking to appease their golden child, Giannis. My main thing is, have the same energy for the conversations about Bronny or at least understand those who are criticizing him for potentially being in a position to take up a roster spot.
I mean Thansis is a grown man with no basketball experience prior to the NBA who’s actually not good. No room for development. Is Bronny face of the league top draft pick level no ? Definitely he can developed into a 2 way role player
@@jahmallmarshall2215 that’s not quite true. Thanasis played for a short while in Greece and then in the NBA’s developmental league before being drafted in 2014. I think he even averaged a bit over 10+ pts while in the developmental league…either way, nepotism in the league is real.
GG Jackson matters, Jeremy Lin matters. I cant believe Gil would say 15th men dont matter. If your name is called then you have a chance to play. I know Josh Selby, he was the 15th man. Lou Will was the 15th man. Btw teams didnt have 15 roster spotslike that.
Lou will was a starter but took a back seat cauae Iverson came back. Lou will never 15th man. And gil right 90% of the time no one care about the 15th man
@jahmallmarshall2215 well back in 2005-06 their wasn't 15 men on the roster at one time. So he was the last man. Avgd 4mpg played 30 games his rookie season. December 9th 2005 vs Charlotte, Lou Will played 1 second. He was the last man. And cmon now he was NOT a first round draft pick. He was the 45th pick. A few picks after Monta Ellis.
@Johenz the year Lou Will was drafted AI avgd 33 ppg. No permanent player on the team avgd less minutes than Lou Will. And it wasn't even close. He avgd 1.9ppg. When AI got traded and came back sure but best believe Lou Will was NOT a top player in Philly.
The 15th guy on the roster should be trying to be hardest player on the team… and should be be better than most g league players… the problem is Bronny has never done anything to make us think he is a pro … 4 points a game in high school 4 points a game in college…. He is giving us what we knew he would
@@Mrsaylessnotmore what other 55th pick has shown he's a pro in 4 summer league games? Wayne Selden averaged 27 in summer league, how did his career pan out?
@@skymav6so why yall defend his name when niggas say he ass? is he a ass 55th pick that dont matter or a potential “jrue holiday”? yall gon argue regardless cuz yall bron fans
Hating on bronny? Whoever used this thumbnail need to b fired jb calling it exactly how 99.5% of the ppl that watched him play see it, im a lebron fan and i know he got power but goddamm it seem like he got former players and big media outlets on payroll..and u would think former players who played the game would call it how they see it but nope
@@skymav6 even if he's allowed to be bad, why is it hating if someone states that he isn't ready for the pros? That's not hate, that's just a fact (in this current moment). Can it change? Yes. And that's us ignoring Lebron's own statement that Bronny is definitely better than some of the cats he was watching on league pass. As his dad, he's allowed to have on those rose-filtered glasses, but fans and players of the game should be allowed to comment on Bronny's game without everyone blowing it up into hate.
@@skymav6 But he's so bad it's not like he's an average 55th pick. He is easily the worst player out in the summer league for every single second he plays. It's a problem when Lebron's ego is the only reason he is in the NBA. He could've came to the league in 2 years with some semblance of competence and no one would've stopped him. Shit he would actually be comparable to other 55th picks at that point at least. Only reason he is in the league is because Lebron is scared to get injured and lose his chance to play with Bronny.
This was embarrassing from Gil. All this yelling at McCants and ignoring his points and then telling the man what he did with his own career. Bronny has not played well. Period. Also that 15th man is someone who is drawing a check and feeding his family. It matters to him. You want to pass him over so Bronny can be on the team? Cool. No problem. But don't tell us it doesn't matter. It does matter. It matters to THAT GUY who got passed over even if he's better than Bronny. And Lebron claimed he was watching League Pass. Ain't no one playing on League Pass worse than Bronny.
gil will do anything to win an argument against rashad🤣 bro went on to pull out his team’s roaster. crazy how the convo changed from bronny to mccants position on his team💀
The moment this show went left is when McCants said “I didn’t ask yall to bring Pat Bev on the show” when Gil put his head down and started scrolling… He was looking for the group chat convo lol
If McCants not on the set and it had anything to do with Bron it’s gone be boring he only 1 that ain’t scared to go against the boss Gil be protecting bron legacy more than rich Paul
The way Rashad acts shows why his career was cut short…. I rocks with some of his takes, but he was unwilling to play the game within the game.m in the nba
I used to only watch skip and Shannon undisputed but since Gil’s arena came out and Shannon left undisputed I only watch gils arena I respect they’re opinion and takes more than someone whose never played like skip and they don’t always agree with eachother which makes it real they always have new things & topics Gil has no chill Gil where they’re havin an all time draft playoffs 😂 this show/podcast is top tier and everyone on it
It’s a stupid argument tho, jaylen already showed what he can do in college, bronny ain’t do nothing in college and he ain’t doing anything in the summer league, he should be in his second year of college or developing on a g league team not getting no roster spot
@@thatguy4354 Jaylen got drafted at a spot reflecting his college performance. Bronny was also drafted at a spot that reflects his college performance. It's a good argument because it shows that even all stars and FMVPs once had to go through an adjustment period after coming to the NBA. There were other rookies in the same draft averaging triple singles before getting drafted, one was even drafted at 23. There have also been plenty of 1st round busts who were beasts in college and the summer league but couldn't hack it in the regular season. College stats ain't the end all be all that determines a player's future. Gil's right that 2nd round players are drafted based on potential. While I do think Bronny has a lot of work to do offensively (he sucks right now), he's at a very high level defensively and has the type of intangibles that made Gary Payton II so critical in that 2022 Warriors championship run. I think the proper time to criticize any rookie is after 2-3 years when they've been granted enough time to develop and adjust to the NBA.
@galacticemperor8468 oh I remember he played terrible his first few games. He started cooking after though. He drew a foul every three drives or some insane stat like that
Right? He acts like a teenager…fake/tough guy..pushing FIFTY! He constantly insults Rashad…and if you see them sitting next to each other….the size difference..not height…if Rashad were to ever invite him to the backroom…180 pound Kenyon would not be coming back out.
Rashad is the voice of the people. Gil and Kenyon look at Bronny like their nephew or even see parallels with their kids and can't look at the situation without bias
No. Those who are being super critical are being bias because of his dad. They just shifted their hate. Kenyon and Gil said you shouldn't have this level of expectation for where someone got drafted. And they are right. Y'all don't want to hear it.
Lebron put the expectations for Bronny out there.. this point is being overlooked majorly. He said Bronny was better then players he was watching on League Pass. Now the whole world is waiting to see it. But what we seeing is big 🧢
@TJzee but does that have to do with you? He put them expectations on him right so do you not have a brain and think for yourself is the question? Bc that what alot of y'all are showcasing
Y’all are fuccin haters that’s it and that’s all , you not the voice of sht and neither is Mc cants foh you want to hate to hate that’s it ! You WANT to tarnish bron so y’all would love to fuccin do it with his fuccin son …that’s trash and y’all mad asf y’all dads didn’t do sht for y’all and y’all didn’t make it anywhere stfu
Case and Point......Gil has a good relationship with Bronny and Lebron so he's not going to be 100% honest about Bronny's true potential and present condition
There’s a different between having an idea of what something feels like vs KNOWING what it feels like. Rashad has an idea but he really doesn’t know. That person is Gil
Rashad definitely carry the show a lot wit his antics but he be so sensitive when it comes to his career he gotta get over that man, if he start acknowledging and accepting it he gon go wayyyy up even more than he has this past year
They should not be insulting him to prove a point. Kenyon is more immature than his son..and so is Gil. All that yelling is so childish. Rashad tells the truth, and that’s why so many of you dislike him. You are FOLLOWERS and jump on the bandwagon of who is most popular. Gil owns the show so of course most people ride with him..but he is nothing but a Lebron James flunky. It’s obvious he gets paid to say what he says. Bronny sucks. He should not be in the league. Period. He gets judged because his dad got him a job. No other father of the 55th pick got his son a job. That’s the difference.
@marcelmarshall4240 say it louder for the people in the back..gil is a troll and I'm upset that the youth listening to his bs ....he might as well work for espn ...
@@kingdrafted1775 Lol at “Energy Guy”. That’s hilarious..and true. I wish Rashad would say that when Kenyon is insulting him. Say something like “Yeah, I am upset my career ended early, just like I am sure you are butthurt that you went from a number one pick to an Energy Guy’.
@@marcelmarshall4240so basically you like to be different than anybody that just goes a totally against the grain you going to side with that and I say that because the points that they made when it comes to talking about the 15th man and how he just totally was going off the wall with a bunch of nonsense it's stupid
The way Gil tap dances around that Bronny James discussion is CRAZY, so we as the people aren't supposed to be seeing with our own eyes BRONNY JUST ISN'T A NBA PLAYER, I truly believe Bronny doesn't want this, I can look at the Kid and see THIS IS NOT HIS PASSION, KID LOOKS LIKE HE DOESN'T WANNA BE THERE!
@@ro8648 We can watch basketball and see multiple times where he isn't playing with real effort that a NORMAL 55th pick would bring because their whole livelihood is on the line. He plays like he knows he already has a spot on the team and its sickening. Jogging/walking back, not communicating well, and getting to take 26 shots in a game LMAO every other 55th pick is already cut by their 10th shot.
I think Bronny wants it, I just think he doesn’t understand the effort it takes. His dad does because he didn’t have the same luxury as Bronny. Not that Bronny doesn’t want it. Some guys just aren’t ready yet and need time to develop whether it’s college or G-League.
@@AMart870 imagine a father not wanting to criticize a 19yr old for not being nba ready lol... Now imagine da same 19yr old being da fuckn 55th overall pick... Do u hear yoself 😭😭
@@christopherchoice9005McCants would WASH Kenyon. Kenyon is almost fifty and is skinny as a rail. McCants is a physical trainer. I know you dudes fan out over who is more ‘popular’, but in reality, I would wash Kenyon Martin…let alone Rashad McCants.
That convo about no one caring about the 15th man is SICKENING man frfr. This is EXACTLY what Kwame Brown is talking about. Only 400 Men even make the league ery year. They are all super humans. But only a SELECT few get highlighted and thats wack af. As a man they MATTER. 💯💯💯 Like Kwame Brown said ‘Stars are made NOT born. Imagine if ESPN highlighted the 15th man like they do Bronny? Then they would ‘Matter’ huh? 🤔🤔🤔
They’re MJ in their hometown just like Kenyon said. 15th guys don’t even dress to play that’s why they don’t matter in terms of the team’s performance. Yes they’re still better than the majority of the world in basketball but there is still levels.
But they are right. They don’t mean they don’t matter as people but to YOU GUYS as fans, they typically don’t matter much. You can Google and pick and choose a couple guys but in general, they tend to not be as popular as the starters. You guys need to stop projecting your insecurities and listen to what they are saying.
I don't understand why he tried to keep up with the lie, he was never the 15 man on the team. He should know Gilbert wasn't going to let him get away with saying that BS.
