Gil's Arena Responds To The WNBA's Biggest Haters 

Nah Gil got a daughter that hoop and mccants got a sis who hooped

@@ishowspeedplug2845agreed. But the truth is the truth

mccants admitted it on another podcast that she is just there for eye candy.

@@ishowspeedplug2845Which has nothing to do with keeping it real about the WNBA. Or did you forget when Gil said the WNBA players look like the cast from Orange is The New Black 🤣

Big facts

That part

This the part they don't want to address. Adam Silver said years ago in an interview with Rachel Nichols that the average wnba viewer is a middle aged man that loves fundamental basketball. Until women support the women's league I don't want to hear it.

They know its trash too 😂

True

Exactly. No one talks about it.

Games are shorter and they play less games too

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Sumn wrong wit women brains brah💀💀

Thank you I said this the other day it’s not hate it’s facts and the WNBA is weak I’d rather watch college women hoop at least they play hard

She did make a fair point about how lowering the rim will affect everyones jumper, I guess the question is would we all be willing to sacrifice a decrease jumpers made for the opportunity to see more dunks?

talking to a woman respectfully is not coddling. i feel sorry for the women in your life.

@@dpo5000I feel sorry for you if you think speaking dishonestly is the same as speaking respectfully. The men on the show should be able to speak honestly but can’t because everyone has to cater to her feelings, which only prevents them from actually solving the problem. These adult women should be able to take criticism of their craft like everyone else.

@@Kcobra99 how do you know they are speaking dishonestly? can you read their minds? lets be honest, you came here to see a group of men verbally shit on a black women, and you're pissed they did the opposite. just admit it.

​@@Kcobra99You can speak honestly and be truthful.

I love the women in my life. But I have enough respect for them to not baby them. If that's what you got from my comment then it says more about you than about me 😂@@dpo5000

Literally tho💀 he straight up complimented them and brought up the fact people talk about entertainment

Because she's arguing from an emotional standpoint and not one based in reason. Which I understand as that's literally her career, but the truth is cold sometimes

Correct brotha🤣

Except for the lower the rim part, mpj was spot on. Lexi just wanted to listen to herself

@@JpGoX He and all men are spot on about the rim too. They always wanna make it a gender thing solely. It’s about entertainment. Take the dunk out of the NBA again and see what happens to the ratings. OVERNIGHT. You take out the layup, the mid range and post (as evidenced today essentially) and the ratings wouldn’t drop nearly as much as taking the dunk out. Britney Griner alone has 20 of the 33 dunks in WNBA history. She is one of 8 Since 96. About a dunk per year. The proof is in the puddin.

This is weak. Miko still got them she'll shocked

She get offended by that but shes cool with Gil calling them girls. Like wtf. 🤣😂

The producers, Gilbert and the guys had to frame themselves to be positive about the WNBA and its faults really quick

Lexi is delusional

She’s Delu- Lu

Old joke. This is why the 2 likes.

bruh!

That's 🥶 🧊 ☃️ cold!

Lame

On God the worst D3 team would smack the CHAMPIONS W team anyday....i think it was Gil that said they couldn't beat Varsity High school State Champs anywhere...smh

They are chicks man common. since when do chicks practice as hard as men, for what reason would they we live different

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Must’ve missed all the missed layups in the men’s game. 🤷‍♂️

@@TJrules299not missed open layups

See that would make me change the channel and never watch again 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

she also shat on someone who has like almost 80 career dunks and some good posters in the mix saying he dont dunk and he should start dunking before telling them to dunk like tf bro caught a nasty oop a couple games back didnt he lmao

@@melvinmacaulay711she’s just very irrational and clearly sensitive on the topic. They should’ve had someone on that was a lot more poised with at least a better argument if they truly wanted to lobby for change. Her opinion makes you not watch to watch it because she’s clearly hating on constructive criticism.

Didn't you know? It's 2024, anything that hurts *FEMALES* fee fees is *HATRED AND MISOGYNY* 🤣🤡🌍

​@@melvinmacaulay711word MPJ had to be told to stop dunking so often so he would stop messing his knees up

nowadays saying the truth is hating. if youre not D riding then its hate.

She’s mad because criticism coming from a man. That’s why she’s on defense mode instead of reason mode

Because when Women utter completely stupid bs guys sit around quietly going along like in this clip.

How do you know a woman is saying something smart? When they start their sentence with, " A man once told me...."

Whenever someone attacks a person or person's idea as "stupid", "idiotic" or not making sense....that means they've lost the argument.

@@willn8664 youre a loser

She's stupid

She obviously offended. Lower the damn rim plz😅😅😅

Dude is huge. Seems like he really should be in the paint more but it’s the team he’s on. He’s a shooter. Oh yeah, KD fell and everything, smh.

I have nugget season tickets. Everybody gets ducks because of the joker. He gets at least two a game she's completely uninformed...

He's 6 foot 10 for God's sake, get d 3:50 unks whenever he wants.

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That is what victims do. Victims also blame everyone and everything else its no coincidence that is what this women and every women in the wnba does.

She doesn't want to say it publicly because it's her livelihood. It would be the equivalent of an NBA star like LeBron saying the NBA as a league is trash.

Yea, but the nba as a league is not trash especially based on their increased revenue and tv deals

@@SosaCorkedBatratings would say otherwise

@@Vito_Caligiuri you know ratings are hard to track based on all the different platforms of streaming and how ppl watch games now…you can google NBA profits though year by year and see their has been an overall increase in profit/ticket sales/broadcasting deals every year

@@cryptidian3530 The WNBA as a league isn’t trash, but not many people care about it.

Because the solution is obvious. It’s a failed business, and it should’ve been shut down a long time ago. 30 years and have yet to turn a profit. Unbelievable

Agreed. He did his normal thing with having a confusing explanation but his opening statement was spot on. She almost answered it but she couldn’t stay on subject. If the product is good but the problem is there aren’t enough viewers then the answer would be more promotion. If it was promoted more and people still don’t watch then the product isn’t as good as you think. Period. It’s like when an artist promotes their album and has great first week sales. If the album is great it will deliver, continue to do numbers, and win awards. If it’s not that good then the artist has to continue to do shows and keep pushing it in order for it to continue to profit. If you have both then you have the NBA. A great product that’s properly promoted and creates amazing revenue and provides justification for compensation.

​@@victoralexander3767 damn bro thats 100% accurate... i was disapointed bcz lexi is very very smart and i legit thought she would actually have something valid to say like something we have not heard before. Its crazy how she sounded like any other frustrated WNBA player with no real take or answer, when she has proven to be much smarter than that.

It could be answered but today you cant tell people the truth without being sexist, racist, colonialist or a bigot. I guess its better to pretend until like in this case the camera is off and the women leaves. Being fake is what our society demands.

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Facts

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😂😂😂facts!!!

😂😂😂😂on gawd definitely should lower the rim

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nah they treat lowering the rim like it makes zero sense. they don't have low rim gyms or outside courts or low rim college arenas so what sense would it make to shoot regular my whole life then have to adjust in the W.. that's about the dumbest shit ever

No only a woman will compute this thinking as logic

never in my life have i heard of fans thinking a business is gonna be where the others are after 25 years. NBA MLB NFL all were where the WNBA is now when they were 25 years in stop reaching

@@hooligan5381 reaching for what. They cry for more money. More money will come aftre they start to make profit. Is this a reach

​@@hooligan5381 Cappity mfking CAP Cap crap

@@hooligan5381that a lie

you need to touch more girls cause you simple don't know women. they're bodies aren't physically build to dunk and all that. i take it you never dunked in your life yet alone touched rim.. that's iron that ish hurts have you seen NBA players fingers? you want WNBA players looking like that... most of them can't even jump that high i could go on basically you don't know women if you even saying this. it's dumb anyway cause growing up they're not gonna be able to practice in lower rim gyms where have you seen that at.. they'll have to build women only gyms to even prepare girls for the WNBA if they change rims which would most likely start a gender war i take it you don't like women man 😂😂

Preach

Women ☕️

Trying to gaslight us to watch their circus of a league 🎪 🤡

@QueensNewYorkguy I'm not even a hater I watch the wnba it was cool seeing that liberty team last season they were fun to watch but if they want more money they have to be open to different ideas and not let obvious pride get in the way and make ridiculous points and have bad communication skills. You gotta be able to listen and actually comprehend what someone is saying instead of just wanting to be offended like lexie did. The respect is there it just has to grow amongst the casual fans. You don't get that with how it's going rn and unless you're basketball head you're not gonna enjoy watching wnba

4:54 volume *UP*

Bingo

problem is its never constructive criticism its just bashing then it mainly comes from people who could never do what they're critiquing and or from people who shouldn't really be talking. i would get it if the criticism came from superstars like LeBron, Steph, Tatum guys like that but instead it comes from MPJ who is a 3rd 4th option on a championship team..

Exactamundo this is why we see women progressively getting worst . where there is no growth , there is deterioration

​@@HakeemTheLeanso by your "logic", if Bron or Steph said the EXACT SAME WORDS that MPJ said, it would be considered constructive criticism but because a 3rd or 4th option said it, it's called "bashing"? Make that make sense...

@@80for80 first off idc to argue with you idgaf about ya opinion and the point is they wouldn't say no shit like this.. at all steph just did a interview on ESPN about the contest and said how it's a honor for both leagues cause it's making history according to a few fool they made him say this lol it's only couch NBA fans like you or these 4th option podcast niggas that be talking negative about a bunch of women it's just weird MPJ has never been a all-star nor played more that 61 games and is known as having a contract not worth his talents and don't nobody say shit about him cause he kinda don't matter he just the wrong messenger and should have said nothing if he has nothing good to say he better hope he don't have a daughter that wants to play ball

They still arent dunking if the rims were 9ft but who cares the shooting would be so bad. Lowering the rim is just a lazy idea that people suggest because they got no other ideas.

@@ram0666 Or they can just get rid of it since nobody watches it. They get paid more overseas anyway right? I don't care for the sport because it's not entertaining that's why I think they should lower the rim. They already changed the ball size for they small hands, 3 pt line because their lack of strength, and you think lowering the rims is a lazy idea, lol ok.

This criteria for comparison is stupid. Women cannot jump as high as men. IF they could the high jump record would be closer than it is.

you simple don't know women. they're bodies aren't physically build to dunk and all that. i take it you never dunked in your life yet alone touched rim.. that's iron that ish hurts have you seen NBA players fingers? you want WNBA players looking like that... most of them can't even jump that high i could go on basically you don't know women if you even saying this. it's dumb anyway cause growing up they're not gonna be able to practice in lower rim gyms where have you seen that at.. they'll have to build women only gyms to even prepare girls for the WNBA if they change rims which would most likely start a gender war i take it you don't like women if you even thinking this these girls start playing ball as kids make it make sense

maybe not play at all

@@dataphoenix8004YUP!

Deep down huh? Everybody dude's a psychologist all of a sudden when its women that are being talked about.

@@bogman0119 they keep bringing up money that they should get paid more. If wnba isn’t bringing in revenue where do u think that money is supposed to come from?

@@bogman0119 😂

Bro don't you find that crazy? They shit on men that are trying to help and suggest things but in reality women don't even watch basketball like dat fax. I remember back in high school it was always women soccer, volleyball, and hockey that were popular. Because girls hung out with girls, and we wanted to watch hot girls play too. But basketball isn't the same, women don't watch women basketball at all. And when i aksed, the answer always was something like: "because its not like soccer...boys are just really better and women basketball is boring and they miss too many easy shots.. etc." But these arguments don't exist in other sports women support each other and they sit down and watch the games and buy tickets and bring their boyfriends too. That said tho, I think the next generation of hoopers will legit be watchable.. i almost got my ankles taken in a summer camp by a girl she plays college now. She played team quebec, then team canada and was destroying boys. And look at how women college ball has changed too they don't even wanna go to the W😂

Most us men don't support it. Just look at what they are saying with the whole 3 point contest this year with Sabrina and Steph ain't nothing but hate and they mostly us.

I'm all for the WNBA let the girls play. They need more teams in more places to get the shit moving.

@@RLGArtist Would you say the same if the roles were reversed and the men weren't making profit?

@@bronxny3765 Yes I would say the exact same shit if the roles where reversed. I'm a dude and we hate the most on these woman. I don't get it. I love women I want them to succeed just as much as men do. Every single time I see a female doing something great in sports there are a bunch of us bringing them down and always bringing it back to them vs us. It's just ridiculous.

That league is talentless.

Facts

Sounds about woman

for example on only fans they make much more money than men and they don't complain

Because they really think they r as talented as NBA players.. They would prefer to let it all crash and burn before lowering the rim

basketball is a game, winning is the goal, and talent is important for the globetrotters. We want to see the best against the best...unfortunately, all the best people are men. In many other thinks all the best people are women@@showtime2182

That's why that show needed Draymond Green! To put her in her place!

Women take offense to that i dont really understand it lmao

She had nothing else to be upset about, he spoke all facts. Typical female behavior tbh

She obviously couldn't attack the actual point because she wouldn't have a argument. You know how women are. Gotta move the goal post to win the argument. Lol

What’s time stamp?

it takes away our humanity. Yes we are female but we are HUMAN females which is women.

IMHO, this problem can't be fixed with PR. The NBA is a behemoth, and they haven't been able to solve the issue; the NBA has its own viewership issues. Until these women stop talking and get real about their sport, they'll continue to face viewership and revenue challenges.

Yea. The WNBA has come a long way skill wise, but it doesn't change the fact that most basketball fans would rather watch their local HS boys team over the WNBA. There are some things they could do image wise to help but the players always push back 🤷🏾‍♂️

It's not a problem. Why is it important that the womens league be popular? It's not. They're damn lucky the NBA pays for them at all. The only problem is the lack of gratitude.

@poocrayon4588 The WNBA is a niche sport. The players and the league keep trying to force-feed the sport to the masses, which seems to have the opposite effect.

Yeah I actually listened to her, and she misunderstood what he said completely and only took it as an insult instead of actual critique

Typical dumb broad!

She said nothing

she actually said they play so good that that hurts them from being payed more and more famous ... Cmon. She said they should play less D. Hate that they can t streight up call her out...

OH S**TNIZAL!!! YOU AND ME BOTH BRUH!!! BIG FACTS!!! 🤔🙏👑💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💯

Exactly I was looking is k mart not here.

I was thinking the same thing not telling her the truth is wild

I think he's invested in women's college/high school ball because of his daughter is a b baller

I can’t believe he took that route … shocked tbh

Didn't gil say they should be in bikinis lmao

Thats cause these dudes dont really own this show and they're being controlled to keep putting women on here.

This is why they FEEL the league is better than what it is which its not. This is why they FEEL they deserve more money which they dont.

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Exactly we need REAL people who will keep it real!!! It was clear as day they all got scared to say what they know needs to be said! Shit is boring the skill sucks and lowering the rim would help their shooting plus add excitement to the game ..We all keep saying we will watch it if they did these things but they to stubborn and so we will continue to NOT watch that jr high basketball 🤷🏾‍♂️

Exactly! She mentions women have to do everything right...nobody said that. Women typically don't listen well when you are giving them a logical reason for things.

no he isn't and definitely not one to talk he act like he a superstar 😂

@@HakeemTheLean so only superstars can talk about the wnba lol? He right bout everything but lowering the rim!! The wnba is not a good product. Not exciting at all. I believe in the future they will be exciting

@@delioniowilson7301 that's ya opinion which hold no weight truthfully. it's teams that sell out their arenas and their last two finals were most watched for them so obviously they're growing and my point was that you never see the bonafide superstars saying anything negative about them MPJ is not giving up more money than KD or steph he probably hasn't given up anything cause i doubt the NBA would ask him to help he not one of them guys to them he just talking which is my point like he not even a all star he should be working on his back instead of talking down on shit that don't concern him i actually find it funny but i feel that way about anybody that's not one of them guys

@@HakeemTheLeanok so what he isn’t a superstar what is she??💀 arrogant people who take everything as hate

Women are obsessed with being as good men. That's why they are obsessed with not lowering the rim but that's what will save their league...

Everybody knows if the NBA wouldn‘t give the WNBA money then the league would‘ve been dead a long time ago. The league is like a corpse or a zombie who‘s refusing to die.

Spot on, even the damn MLB is actively trying to make their league more entertaining and for some, it's working. Gotta do what you gotta do as a league, complaining doesn't work. Tighten the belt and get busy.

They don't make money but they still in business 😂😂😂😂😂

Tell a women she not right and see what happens

It would hurt their jumper for a few months. Then people would get used to the adjustments. Do the change in the offseason, and give players months of offseason ans preseason to readjust. Even if the first year is clunky? So what? The long term product would be better and again, people would adjust and return to their old percentages in time. I don't even think it would take a full season. By playoff time they would be very used to it.

one of the few times mccants said something smart.

Gilbert didn't say anything. He could've but he chose to McCants take the heat. He could've destroyed that entire argument.

Why not play the less defense the NBA sure is

Tbf that’s exactly what the nba does 😅

As in play less defense

Pride is killing their sport, it would be way more entertaining if they lowered the rim.

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And the 3pt line is shorter

It won't make a difference. They don't have the upper body strength to tomahawk or just be playing above the rim like that. Even on a 8ft rim.

​@@DefSquadFan It definitely wouldn't hurt to try and lower the rims. If they see that it's actually possible to dunk then they'll actually start training to do it. She said something similar in it would mess everyone's shooting up. But aren't they the best female basketball players in the world? Shouldn't they be able to adjust to the lower rims? Or is she saying they don't have the skills to adjust which would only prove the reason as to why they are paid what they are paid.

Thats because they dont want to be honest with themselves and realize the product isnt good enough to compete.

Why are they arguing for a bigger % when they already have a bigger %?@@yrudonking

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The most salient point she made is MPJ is asking women to dunk when he shoots a lot of threes and doesn’t dunk himself.

Whats wrong with you?@@calvinwatson3607

I know I thought the same thing he shots yes but I’ve seen mpj cram on some players

​@@connecttadot5168Dude 6'10!! Fuck this girl child talking about???

@@MrJimShorts they have a shorter 3-pt line and play with a smaller ball lower the rim isn't cheapening the game

@@MrJimShortsBoys and Men do it all the time. Boys start out shooting on big rims but play on 7-8ft rims. NBA players don’t just play basketball at places where the rims are Exactly 10ft. Shooting is your Hand eye Coordination and mechanics than just the height of the goal. The NBA is not about fundamental basketball, it’s about entertainment. What is mostly likely to get More Money coming into the WNBA, more opportunities for Dunks and Just giving women more money? Besides bikinis, which don’t really draw eyes like people think, what would get more eyes on the WNBA? Also can you name an entire division in the WNBA?

The market is telling you how to improve the product….but no, you don’t want the free market research?

@@MrJimShortsfirst year they would see a 50% increase in revenue if they announced they were lowering the rims to 9 feet before the season started Thousands of new fans would come to watch

@@MrJimShortssomebody above already refuted your argument against lowering the rim (smaller ball, shorter 3pt line, fewer season games, shorter game times etc etc). Look, it’s not a knock on the women to say that lowering the rim will significantly improve their ability to appeal to the viewing audience’s wants. Because that is exactly how they will make more money - by giving fans what they want to watch. All the other stuff (“oh he’s referring to us as females not women” and “we are just as talented as the men”…blah blah blah) is both a distraction from the truth and a denial of the truth. No, WNBA players are not as talented as the NBA players. If they were, people would actually demand for the product. People don’t demand for their product, because their product is not really wanted by the public. That’s calling a spade a spade.

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It would work. I don’t know this for a fact but I’m pretty sure the Lingerie Football League had better ratings than the WNBA at any point

Lol no way he said that

Should have brought that up in this topic🤣🤣

They damn near do now, they shorts be so tight and high for no reason now😂😂😂

And you can tell he said it in the most respectful way possible …. Everyone puts on kid gloves when this topic comes up and that doesn’t help the progression … MPJ and Draymond Green are the only two NBA players I can think of that told the truth about this issue …. RIP to Kobe Bean because I believe he was the only one that could really change the WNBA for the better …

@@kendallharris3445respectfully Until they lower that rim 🤦🏾‍♂️ …. Kobe was they LAST hope. And he’s gone 😢smfh!

I will say he was actually fair in this segment. Usually he’s just… him lol. However, today he was fair with her.

​@@kendallharris3445ARE YOU HIGH??? Was Kobe gonna put on makeup??

Question, did he dyed his chin hair, or is that the lighting? 😅😂

10 mins in... WTF IS HE TALKING ABOUT???

Wow, I only got 2 mins in. Once she started talking, I just knew she was about to spew some nonsense n get defensive. MPJ was spot on

@@makempay8710He didn’t lie they just can’t and won’t accept the truth

NBA players barely dunk. Wemby who’s 7’4 love shooting 3s. Let’s stop the nonsense. Just look in the mirror. You hate women.

Exactly it doesn’t make sense lol

Would you want to have to relearn how to shoot from a rim thats a different height😅?

@@carbon.the.christ5626 It could be easier... You never know. Gotta start some time

Lol great point

Facts, ping pong is huge in Asia

😂😂😂 this is amazing... It's funny AND true!

when i read "Ping" i thought u meant in gaming . im dying! cause im constantly wacthing my Ping in call of duty. LOL.. but yeh i agree

Dam

Ping pong makes more than the😂😂 w n b a

Exactly. Gil says their audience is women. But it seems like their biggest gripe always boils down to the perception of men not supporting their league. You rarely hear them complain or make pleas to women as a whole to support their league.......

EXACTLY❗️ The women don’t even show up to the games.

@@medesrevenge9192just another day example of the succubis

There’s literally more women in America than men. If they supported this raggedy league, then they would make more than the men.

Sex sell women support the nba because they believe the men in sports are handsome and masculine, the wnba hasn’t made a profit because women don’t support it and men don’t because it not sexy or athletic, the nba is keeping the wnba alive

Exactly they wanna short cut to the top but what they need to do is focus on making their league a great product

Exactly bro they don’t realize just a couple yrs ago the g league players were making 2k-3k per month on average…for only 6 months per yr😭😭

Craziest part is the worst G-League player would be the GOAT in the WNBA. Bill Russell rings 😂😂

Would you watch the WNBA if they lowered the rim lol. We gotta be honest aint nobody here trying to watch women play on a little league goal lol

@@realjohnlove 9.5 wldnt be bad.. most fans wld understand

My thoughts exactly 💯

I've said this same exact thing multiple times. It's pointless. Then they shame us for going overseas lol... yikes.

Bruh😭

She couldn’t deal with the opinion of a professional athlete who plays her sport at the highest level. Enough said.

correct, but it’s not just basketball, in every part of life women can’t deal with the pressure and scrutiny that men do. Men aren’t holding women down, it’s just that women want to be equal to men when it comes to the good stuff that men have but they want to skip the part of pressure, scrutiny, rejection, consequences etc, etc, but that’s what it takes to be where men are in society. Women say they want equality but there talking about equality with successful men, they’re not talking about average men. Women don’t understand that in life they have a safety net but they can’t see it. When men fall there is no net. Women also don’t understand that without men they are screwed, men built society and men maintain society but to women it’s just background. This topic always brings my piss to a boil. She also said men should shut up because we don’t watch their games at 3:33. Who does she think watches their games? I could walk up to the next 2000 women and ask them to name a WNBA team and I’d be shocked if more than 5 could

@@yopappy6599BOTH OF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! She’s in complete delusion and denial. She keeps speaking on the projection of the NBA and its trajectory. Honey baby it’s been 25 years, when the Fk are they gonna peak??!!

What scrutiny? They wouldnt get any. Everybody is afraid to tell these women the truth.

She's talking, so whatever she says is right.

Nigga literally posterized kd lol

​@@sabreeemneelywhamen are always right!

I think she means regularly not that he can’t dunk

Not that he can’t dunk but it’s not a major part of his game and MPJ is not a heavily marketed player. He’s not someone that fans are like that’s the guy. He’s a guy that contributes

It's natural evolution of the game just like they said. WNBA is just dragging it out with their rules.

I grew up with this nonsense.

Crazy right🤦🏾

What's the f'n difference? WTF!!! Total confusion lol.

​@@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851 Trans are making it difficult on our language now because of their feelings

females is the right term

On God😂. I was hoping to get facts about why he was wrong, or reasons Female hoopers should earn more.

There is never any facts from women players , it’s just how they feel. If the wnba was literally any other business it wouldn’t have went out of business by now . That would be like someone at McDonalds being like damn I need to be paid like lawyer I work just as hard . You don’t bring in any fkn money how you you going to get paid more why would they even give you more of a share when wnba loses money this makes no sense

Naw. Call them Women. So many men trying to claim that title for themselves. I let her have that one.