@miguellecoeur8615 I'm assuming they are referring to end of TYBW byakuya and Kinpachi. The scaling makes a bit of sense when scaling Gin up to Urahara and Schutzstaffel based on his performance against Aizen.
Gin graduated the academy in a year. He's a praised prodigy like Toshiro. In SS arc their fight was interrupted but would have determined the real Gotei 13's boy wonder.
@@lukatrdina5108The databooks actually say that SS arc Toshiro has superior stats to SS arc Gin at that point. Gin’s Bankai poison would probably be his only win con. We only see Gin as pretty OP after him and Tosen presumably get their base forms amped by Aizen
the funniest visual i thought of when thinking of if gin survived, is gin just sitting up at sokyoku hill using his bankai and just sniping soldat and sternritters
The only non-ss Sternritter Gin would have trouble with would be Gremmy. And we know from Kubo's comments that he beats Askin as well. His bankai is just that broken. It is insanely fast, has broken range and is a one hit kill on most enemies. If Gin plays it smart he can snipe pretty much any Sternritter and kill them in one hit. Only the ones with various levels of true inviolability like Lille, Gerald and Pernida. Jugram and Gremmy are coin tosses as to who wins, IMO.
With the way he almost packed up Aizen (ALMOST) I genuinely think he’d be able to take on maybe at least the main A list Sternritters like As Nodt, Gremmy, Bazz B and hell maybe just maybe Jugram but maybe that’s just my train of thought
I don’t think he’s beating gremmy, jugram, and possibly as nodt unless he just poisons as nodt early in the fight. I could definitely see him beating most all the others that aren’t royal guard members
@forthe3136 characters like As Nödt or the other strong Sternritters aren't really likely to be able to deal with Gin because they don't have enough stopping power. The general activation of his bankai is typically lethal enough to cause enough damage to the characters that can't heal themselves or evade the attack. Additionally, the bankai stealing sigiel won't have enough time to complete the process before the Quincy user is struck or bisected. I could see how narratively this could be worked around by another Quincy stealing his banki after the first one falls, but in a 1v1 that's not really an option. I agree he hard caps at the Royal Guard level combatants, though. With the same prejudice he used against Aizen, he could kill Pirnida and Askin before both have the time to adapt to the poison or the stimulus. But in character, this wouldn't really be the case.
@@ezramiller8936 I think you’re underrating as nodts blut and regeneration ability from his vollstandig, he’s able to tank senbon Sakura to the face from a byakuya who was able to casually cut yammy and his vollstandig was able to heal his body from absolute zero I don’t think gins bankai activation is putting him down unless he uses his poison Imo the winner goes to whoever activates their trump card first if as nodt activates vollstandig it’s gg and if gin hits as nodt with the poison it’s gg
@forthe3136 I'm not convinced senbonzakura has more punching power than the initial release of Gins bankai. Blut actually should do better against senbonzakura because it distributes the attack across more surface area, which makes it more easily defended against by a technique like Blut. Meanwhile, Yami is historically bad at controlling his spirit energy and hierro. Meanwhile, a direct attack from senbonzakura only severely wounded Tsukashima instead of outright killing him. As a human, he should be able to take less damage than other spiritual beings because his body is more fragile. I wasn't really considering Tar-tar foras because I didn't really see him getting a chance to use it. Or the fear for that matter.
If Gin was still alive, Rangiku would have Bankai. He would most likely not be present during the first invasion and most fittingly arrive either right before or during the second invasion. As to how Rangiku reaches Bankai, it would most likely be towards the end of bleach or during the timeskip in the last chapter. Of course Gin would most likely make a deal with Aizen, for example, having Aizen give back the part that he obtained from Rangiku in exchange for helping him obtain the heart of the soul king by beating Gerard Valkyrie.
If Gin's poisonous Bankai is so potent it could actually lethally hurt a semi or stronger stage Transcendent being that Aizen was in with the Hogyoku then that Bankai must be quite a hazardous danger for even Yhwach and the quincies with the Soul King parts and extra abilities to watch out for.
The fact that he could almost kill aizen should basically tell you that this dude is beyond broken. Aizen's only saving grace was that he was immortal. His blade expands with such speed you can't even see it nor dodge it unless he lets you. Then after you get stabbed he can simple poison you and erase you from existence. He doesn't NEED to fight anyone, just snipe them from afar and laugh as they die in vein.
He'd hold his own and inflict damage, as mentioned when it comes to dealing the the more top tier and knowledgable opponents he'd be better off stepping aside and letting Ichigo do the work there.
Considering how important names are in Bleach, I always theorized that it would be possible for Gin to be able to harm/defeat Elite Guards like Lille Barro in his light form for example. Kamishini no Yari, "God-killing spear" - it should be perfectly possible, especially with all the Club Oustside's revelations that weren't introduced in source material, don't you think? :)
@@aizensworld9309 I wouldn’t call that consistency, just something that Askin’s power can’t counter since it doesn’t give enough time. It’s like saying Nemu’s brain has godly properties because a healing property overwhelmed Pernida’s ability to regenerate. In the end, it’s all about compatibility. Shunsui’s bankai could kill Askin but not Gerard, Lille and Pernida. The thing that killed Pernida wouldn’t kill the other 3 and so on
everyone forgets how op everyone got for that war, Gin was dead years ago and could still beat many of them. If gin was alive you know he'd also get a power boost like every character did for that war
Hello theory : we knows every shonen ends with happy end but bleach whole universe created by sin of noble family by killing reio and yet all yhwach and aizen wants to change same thing that puppet can't rule over world
Almost every Quincy is just a more broken version of a Soul Reaper or hollow. Gin is basically a less broken Lille. I would have loved to see him on a rooftop sniping Sternritter like Lille was doing at the end just before his battle with Shunsui
I assume in this situation the banki would emanate from the quincy cross, either ejecting the dust from the cross or dematerializing the cross into the dust before returning back to the Sternritters hand similar to the intermediate state of his banki. It wouldn't retain the extendable blade of his shikai however.
How would the Monarchs of Solo Leveling fair against the Espada? Could Ulquiorra and Coyote Stark hurt the strongest Monarch Antares at their peak powers?
It really comes down to how you scale the monarchs. I haven’t seen anything to really buff them yet(still searching). So for now, I’d say Espadas for the most part if I’m being really picky with the comparison. But the likes of Antares would be more troublesome.
@@aizensworld9309theyre at the bare minimum planentary in their sealed states. at their full power their uni ( antares and jw scale way higher in ragnarok )
Also he haven't touched Kyoka Suigetsu yet back then, he could've pulled a hypnosis against Gin before he could even put the fragment of his blade inside Aizen
Hey bro hell arc is beyond reach of ichibei because hell is ruled by 5th noble family anscestor because in novel it is separated from 4 other novel kuchiki , shihoin , tsunayashiro , and shiba what about 5th kubo never mention even in novel about noble families and it is also that's why hell is existed before 3 realms and therefore no one talk about hell 😊
I have watched squad 0 vs aizen And i think hell arc revealing that aizen is the actual villain or saviour because he didn't want that some puppet rule over world so he made himself at that level and also urahara created the hogyoku for same reason and aizen created ichigo to prove his own strength that's why he never use his kyokasuigetsu
But bleach has unstability between hell and is shinigami are really good being because only few knows that actual soul king is just a puppet and reio is killed brutally his limbs vody parts is thrown away and manifest as mimihagi etc
I think Gin would be as strong as the mid tier Sternritters at best. The Gotei 13 got way stronger during the 17 month Timeskip and Gin at his peak was around the level of FKT Kenpachi and Byakuya. Stronger than the Espada but weaker than Striped Mask Ichigo An even stronger Byakuya got negged by As Nodt who’s an upper mid tier Sternritter. Pre Muken Zaraki beat a few low tier Sternritter but got no diffed by a high tier but not top tier Sternritter in the form of Royd
He was not weaker than stripped masked Ichigo, he toyed with him in their fight. He was far stronger than most members of the Gotai before the 17 months and would have still scaled to the top teirs afterwards, because he would still scale to the members that didn't train like Shunsui.
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And that's why naruto has boruto due to all concept of ninja war is because of otsutsuki that's why in boruto end we will see world without otsutsuki or chakra
Yhouhh i agree w the outcome... Several incorrect assumptions here There was no sacrificial moves made by Stark, you're confusing the anime and manga Aizen took it upon him self to face the Gotei, there was no relation between Gins stregthn and the Espadas Gin's clap definitely referred to sound as him not saying "hear that" does not prove he meant the action. Also Gin's intention was to scare Ichigo why would the lie of 500x a clap scare him ?
We know from club outside that he could at least kill Askin, the same is probably true for pernida, given he strikes it in the center of the palm. I think he clears the Sternritters up to the Y twins and the Schutzstaffel after the Auswählen. Before it he can probably deal with them in much the way the royal guard did in a 1v1 fight, but not on his own or without team support.
@@ezramiller8936 Kubo only said that Gin's poison from his Zanpakto would work on Askin for the first time, thats all, only that, in everything else Askin negs Gin he has much better feats and abilitys. Gin has a very very tiny chanche to kil Askin with his poison. The elites no diffs him Auswhälen or no Auswhälen doesnt mattet.
@@aronkalacska8695 I think it would depend heavily on how you characterise Gin in the narrative. With that statement, we know the power is there, so at key moments in the story he has the capability to be deadly, even as his story ended in the FKT arch. If he remained exiled from the soul society, I could see him being largely ignored until he steps back into the story. If he was brought back into the Gotai 13, they are more likely to have a counter measure in place he suffers a loss from. He could easily have taken the place of Grimmjow for example but would have had more room for growth or a new technique with the time skip and exploration of the character.
I don't think Gin would even be able to touch Gremmy due to him being shown to use intangibility, making his skin harder than steel and using a plethora of ranged attacks. Won't even mention the Visionary's other broken abilities.
I actually believe the opposite. Gin could easily kill Gremmy. Gin is really good at deception and sneaking around. Gremmy isn't the most aware of the sternritters. If Gremmy loses focus or is convinced he can't handle the situation, he'd lose. Like when he stopped paying attention to Yachiru , her body would no longer crumble like a cookie or how he lost to Kenpachi.
@@Phantom_8222 The problem with that is Gremmy can heal himself with a thought. That makes Gin's bankai ineffective. Gremmy can also use intangibility in which Gin wouldn't even be able to touch him or make his body harder than steel, not to mention Gin wouldn't be able to survive half the things Gremmy used against Zaraki.
@kanoreese1253 The thing is, Gin is smarter than Kenpachi and is good at getting under people's skin. If Gremmy isn't focused, then Gremmy can't heal himself though thought. Being hard as steel wouldn't matter if Gin could disintegrate his body with Bankai. Gremmy's greatest weakness is his own mind. That is legit how Kenpachi was able to beat him.
He actually hard counters Bambi with his banki. It's faster than she can dodge and the dust form of his sword can't be detonated with her reishi. She would have to carpet bomb the battle feild, but wouldn't really have time to pull it off. Liltotto has the same problem. Bazz-B might have a chance if his burner finger is as fast in a quick draw.
