Gitrog vs Obeka vs Sisay vs Tatyova | CEDH Gameplay 

Before we get into tonight's game, I wanted to ask a question...

Doesn't Ryan auto win that?

​@@thief_Entertainment just don't have Ryan in that game 🤔😂😂

Hard deck to pilot but love watching Ashani play it, my buddy told me it was pretty hard to play i see why now lol fun to watch though ill stick with kinnan 😀

I dont understand how he gets back dark rit and lotus petal into his hand if he is ways milling his draws?

This was such a cool win

I think Inalla has gotten it beat, but that's just my opinion.

I actually ended up making a flow chart the size of a card and laminating it. I keep it in my deck box to help explain to people what I’m doing.

I have the combo written on the back of a basic so people can read at their leisure

I just play a clip of subway surfers while I explain it so I don't lose their attention.

I wouldn’t know where to begin to play this deck I’m not one bit familiar with it but it went off, I know old urza and kinnan, I’m having some trouble learning turbo krrik as well I almost got it done, not a easy deck to play but I’m remembering the combos, skirg necrotic ooze, and asmodeus then grey merchant and chainer to drain and gain 🤷🏼‍♂️

We had a cEDH Game Night where a friend of mine comboed off with Gitrog Monster for over 60min.

I think the biggest issue is the steep learning curve. I sold put of magic for a few years and played Amulet Titan in Modern and Gitrog in EDH-slowly getting back in now! Both of these decks come with arguably some of the steepest learning curves of any deck in any format and a lot of times people don’t want to put the work in to truly understand the optimal lines all the time, which I get. I love excess complexity and doing stupid broken things so both decks are perfect, and they are STRONG but always underrepresented relative to their strength due to a lack of pilots.

I use a proxy version of emrakul since i never cast the thing anyway.

You can play a lot of things in cEDH, though I wouldn't recommend it to even the best players for a tournament in its current state. I feel like it's still a bit overrated due to its previous status but it has sadly fallen very far

It’s not! It can just only be activated on your turn :)

It’s actually not. It can only be activated during your turn. But during that turn it can be activated at any time you could cast an instant.

You stack lots of draw triggers on the stack, then respond to each of them with the loop. When you are ready you can choose to let them resolve.

Ohhh I see so the draw triggers are from the lands hitting the graveyard from the deck? Ty for the reply I love this channel!

Gitrog only triggers once when multiple lands hit the graveyard at the same time

@@eme2costa Ahhh, it must say when one or more lands, I just thought it said whenever "a" land.

@@eme2costa This isn't accurate. Gitrog does trigger for each land that hits the graveyard. The draw triggers are stacked and used as needed to reshuffle, draw and cast Ebony Charm. Ashani won at instant speed with multiple draw triggers on the stack.

@@deckman2381 No, it only triggers once when multiples lands go to the graveyard at the same time, it says "Whenever one or more land cards", if it said "Whenever a land card" then it would work as you think

not really, thalia and gitrog doesn't let you do the dakmor loops. You still need OG gitrog for that.

What are you talking about dawg

It’s 2 different decks one wants combo and cares about the grave and the other doesn’t and is stacks

Unfortunately, I agree - even though I loved Monster :D - currently we have very fast decks with really stax effects on "demand" - decks like najeela or Rocco simply find an answer to moster in EVERY game...

It's not, but since it's repeatable until ulamog isn't the first card, and most tables don't want to wait until the heat death of the universe, it's generally acceptable to shortcut it, even if it isn't technically shortcuttable at an comp REL event.

@@CrownlessStudios and that makes the combo not doable. Play the whole combo throughout as it isn't deterministic, or don't use the combo. For all intended purposes, that combo is illegal as there's a small chance that the combo will never complete.

@@TheSpiritombsableye as someone who has played Gitrog, I'm happy to play the combo out. And will if someone is unfamiliar with the deck. But the number of times I've played at a table where everyone knew how the deck works AND they wanted me to play it out when I had it is 0. At competitive, it can technically result in a draw instead of a win. But at a regular table with friends, nobody wants to sit through it just because it isn't technically an infinite loop.

@@CrownlessStudios there's always a chance that you'll never get it. It is an infinitesimally small chance but it will happen one day and thus is illegal.

@TheSpiritombsableye again, true for Comp (except Comp has a match timer, so it would end in a draw), irrelevant for casual. You're not adding anything new of value to the conversation.

Well assuming the player whose turn it is can finish it that wouldnt be a negative point for the gitrog player, instead it would be bad for the other players, since he would use all the gametime and even if he gets stopped it might just end in a draw. It's just outsped by most turbo decks and the lack of blue really hurts the deck in tournament settings.

I once witnessed a pod force the hypnotoad into doing the full combo and his turn took 2 hours to finish

​@Kuja 12 the problem is, if you get a few non-land hitting loops in a row, you could technically get hit with Slow Play, since you didn't change anything meaningful about the game state. It's definitely petty from other players + the judge, but it is technically in keeping with the rules.

@Kuja 12 if someone is about to combo and no one has interaction they just win. When gitrog does it sometimes it goes to time and you draw. That's actually huge in tournament play.

@@vroomzoom4206 most cedh tournaments have rules that definitely allow for the avtive player to finish their turn. I haven't seen any instances of a gitrog player "timing out" because of that at any event or have had it happen to myself. I also haven't seen any tournaments that do not let at least the active player finish the turn after overtime.