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Give your writing the right TONE | Ivy by Taylor Swift | Storytelling Tips From Songs  

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@pastramicheesemonster4873
@pastramicheesemonster4873 Год назад
I'm cackling because you just said "illicit affair", and Taylor literally has a song on Folklore called 'Illicit Affairs'
@sirCharon
@sirCharon Год назад
I was wondering if that was on purpose or not 😭
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
hahaha I'll never tell :P
@amandam.4841
@amandam.4841 Год назад
"My house of stone, your ivy grows, and now I'm covered in you".. this line is GENIUS. Her house of stone: rock solid, structurally sound, fully formed (a true house, if not a home). Your ivy grow: i think of those gorgeous manor houses that are covered in ivy, which seems beautiful...but! Ivy is INVASIVE AF! It causes literal cracks in foundation, and can strangle the things it takes over (ivy on trees, for example: it blocks out the sun and ends up killing the tree it decorates). Now I'm covered in you: you've taken over everything and the only thing left of me is you. Brilliant poetry, even if the topic is...touchy lol
@sydney5228
@sydney5228 Год назад
and then the house is easier to burn to the ground because you can burn the ivy
@mswhiteleg7849
@mswhiteleg7849 Год назад
Personally, I interpret this song as some kind of period drama. She is engaged to someone she doesn't love (she doesn't talk about any feeling for him and mention fear), the spring wedding, the run away and even the general vibe feels Jane Austen to me.
@ksenijajemensek6126
@ksenijajemensek6126 Год назад
The song Ivy isn’t from folklore akbum, but it’s from evermore album. Both of these sister albums are the most superior albums. I LOVE them so so much. 🤍🤍
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
HOW COULD I SAY FOLKLORE. I'm fired
@eirinikomotini
@eirinikomotini Год назад
It was hilarious watching you get so angry at the cheating thing, adorable! This song is said to be about Emily Dickinson, who fell in love (and had an affair) with her husband’s sister… so there are many more layers here that make this interesting (and imo understandable; it’s not like she could get a divorce and date another woman at the time)… it’s said that Taylor got the inspiration during quarantine when she watched the series Dickinson
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I read up about this a bit after listening - sooo interesting. I can totally see the connections in the song
@gggab001
@gggab001 Год назад
Emily Dickinson was never married. It was about her brother's wife
@mathies3598
@mathies3598 Год назад
no... pretty sure she was the one who was married@@gggab001
@annettetate1809
@annettetate1809 Год назад
Agreed
@eirinikomotini
@eirinikomotini Год назад
@@gggab001you’re right, I mixed it up
@marianaflores6180
@marianaflores6180 Год назад
i've always thought the "time is near" part was because she was "promised" to another, meaning probably engaged or born into an arranged-marriage-type-destiny and not yet married to another. that's why i feel like she says "so tell me to run or dare to sit and watch what we'll become and drink my husband's wine". that's like a call for her lover to take her away from that fate, but that fate is still a possibility rather than a reality. idk, since it gives me period-piece imagery i think back to Wuthering Heights and imagine this is Catherine begging Heathcliff or something... well, maybe that's me projecting headcanons lol
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
yes yes yesssss
@BreakerOfChainss
@BreakerOfChainss Год назад
OMG yes! I never thought of this. Love it. 💗
@da_bill3025
@da_bill3025 Год назад
I definitely get Wuthering Heights type of vibes from this, particularly with the imagery of the stone house and the ivy, plus the idea of her hand being 'promised to another'.
@elizabethjulia20
@elizabethjulia20 10 месяцев назад
ivy has been one of my favourite songs since evermore came out and I quite literally only just thought of the idea that this timeline could be PRE-marriage. It really could all fit into "I've been promised to another and it's my duty but tell me to run before this is inescapable, before he becomes my husband, forget duty"... ivy has always felt period piecy to me as well, and I think that imagery is deliberate, but imagining this as *take me away before it's too late* really really adds to the frantic delicate energy of the song to me.
@carolinamansur113
@carolinamansur113 8 месяцев назад
​@@elizabethjulia20 the "promised to another" line really tell you it is period piece, because this doesn't happen all that much today (yeah, I know that in some countries it does, but in comparison to many years back, definitely not much) and she's grieving for the living, which definitely reads like her mourning the live she could have had she not been promised to marry one man she does not even like
@pastramicheesemonster4873
@pastramicheesemonster4873 Год назад
I always read Ivy as being about a lesbian relationship, and when I first saw the title I assumed Ivy was a woman's name. I imagine it's set in a place/ time period where she and her lover can't be open about their sexuality - and so she is unable to leave her husband to be with them. To me, this adds an extra dimension to the secrecy and the fear about what will happen. I think the "blaze in the dark" refers to her world burning down now that she's experienced being with another woman, and "you started it" is accusatory, but also maybe she's admitting she's never felt this way before. Maybe "the goddamn fight of my life", has now become inevitable because she can't go back to how life was before, and it's "the" fight because her sexuality is the biggest challenge she faces, so it's all-encompassing. I don't know whether Taylor wrote it to be read like this, but it's how I interpret it anyway!
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
The song is most definitely queer.
@adriannfelipe56
@adriannfelipe56 Год назад
The line "he's gonna burn this house to the ground" is not about burning the house, but the ivy (the lover's love) that's covering the house (the girl), cause ivy is so resistant that it can only be destroyed by fire.
@raelalaful
@raelalaful 11 месяцев назад
Also, her house of stone
@Zonatapio
@Zonatapio 6 месяцев назад
He's going to burn her house of stone which is her marriage and current life with her husband (her rock, foundation, life, etc). Nothing literal of course but because she's so in love with this other man she's going to ruin her house of stone (burn it down). She keeps blaming him even though she's really the one who's going to burn it down
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
FORGIVE ME - this is from Evermore, lol. Oh goodness. Alright, you know the drill - what is your favorite line from Ivy? Also... ARE THEY DEAD? Yes or no ⬇😆
@shkh1418
@shkh1418 Год назад
‘Grieving for the living’ ‘ Id live and die for moments that we stole on begged and burrowed time’
@rissaannster
@rissaannster Год назад
No I don’t believe they’re dead. She’s grieving for the living.
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
@@rissaannsterexactly, she’s not grieving for the dead cause she’s dead. she’s the dead who’s still regretting her life and grieving for the one that are still alive! she is dead!
@wantstoescapefromthisshitt6079
just starting the video now but “I wish to know the fatal flaw that makes you long to be magnificently cursed” (so much for saying that the one thing that’ll kill them also makes them fascinating) THIS SONG IS IN MY TOP THREE FROM EVERMORE!!! I need you to listen to the lakes, i’m sure you’d love it
@lancorssei
@lancorssei Год назад
just love the idea of "grieving for the living" in this scenario, as if she's grieving her relationship with her husband, and how she uses the graveyard to illustrate this feeling while also being their literal meeting spot for the affair
@madelinewise8692
@madelinewise8692 Год назад
"Opal eyes" and "incandescent glow" both refer to an inner glow. The lyric "and drink my husband's wine" implies that the song is from Sue's perspective, how she would "light up" in Emily's presence, the love glowing in their eyes, the secret spark between them whenever they were together.
@melindatintle9728
@melindatintle9728 11 месяцев назад
This
@theminerafter21
@theminerafter21 Год назад
I was also interested in why she chose opal because it seemed off to me too. Then I remembered in bejeweled she used moonstone because of the symbolism behind it so i looked it up, and apparently opal symbolizes hope! So I’m assuming she meant it symbolically like hoping and wishing that they could be together
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
That's super cool! Yeah I figured in this song, the choice was pretty intentional, since it seems like Taylor never lets a single detail go by without meaning XD. I just do a lil eye-roll sometimes when it's abused or overused (particularly in YA/fantasy fiction)
@BreakerOfChainss
@BreakerOfChainss Год назад
I agree with you, the first verse made me picture a graveyard. I think that's their meeting place and she sees the widow there everyday. Also, the 2nd line mentioned spirits and bones. Lol. I also think that the reason why his hands are freezing is just because it's winter when this affair was taking place. 😂 Love love this reaction! ❤
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
IDK WHAT IF HE'S A GHOST (but yeah they did mention snow, so...) XD
@nimratmand3318
@nimratmand3318 Год назад
I always interpreted the "my pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand" like she's wearing a ring (it's been promised to another) and they're walking hand in hand in the snow.
@August-Folklore
@August-Folklore Год назад
I am so in love with this song❤ I think that “where the spirits meets the bones” is basically the opposite of the spirit leaving the bones. Like it brought her back to life. And the line “faith forgotten land” is like man forgotten land. It has some denial in it. It’s not that they forgot about faith, faith is the one that forgot about them and they had no other choice.
@sq0ok3d
@sq0ok3d Год назад
Let's not all forget that Ivy is quite literally just an accurate description of Emily Dickinson and Sue Gilbert.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I heard this might be part of the inspiration! Super fun to think about
@kindredxspirits
@kindredxspirits Год назад
​@@meganmaclaineAlso, Emily finishes one of the poems about Sue with "Forevermore!" which I like to believe is more than just a coincidence when it comes to the song/album
@farisprith
@farisprith Год назад
@@kindredxspiritsbiggest proof is that she released evermore on dickinsons birthday
@HeyyJillian
@HeyyJillian Год назад
100% a wlw relationship
@hayleysmith3113
@hayleysmith3113 Год назад
It could be an accurate description of untold numbers of people
@erikafriberg
@erikafriberg 7 месяцев назад
House of stone... like her house is a gravestone, because her marriage is dead, but her husband still alive, so "grieving for the living"... and her lover keeps being the ivy over her house, so her husband might burn her house to the ground.... to destroy the affair. The widow grieves her spouse by the gravestone, but the narrator is living in a gravestone!! Grieving her chance at happiness! Thank you for what you bringing up the multiple mentions of stone, I felt like I had an epiphany!
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 7 месяцев назад
Ooooh yes to all of this!
@S.M.Owens_
@S.M.Owens_ 18 дней назад
@@meganmaclaine YES! but for me I don't picture a house, when she talks about a house of stone, because of the cemetery and death references, I think of a mausoleum with Ivy all over it. Also, I think the fact that most of it is kind of set in a cemetery it could be referring to the fact that because of the time period the only place they could be together was where the only witnesses were gravestones, which is super sad because they are surrounded by death and 'grieving for the living' because they want to be able to be part of society, the living, together rather than having to hide. Also, before I knew the song was about Emily and Sue, I thought Taylor was writing from the perspective of someone in death. I thought the husband found out about her affair and killed her and maybe the other guy survived and her spirit is stuck in the cemetery waiting and grieving for her lover who is still alive. I still like seeing it from that perspective sometimes, and it also strangely makes so much sense with the lyrics and fits the whole spooky, death vibe.
@myphoneisblue
@myphoneisblue Год назад
I’m obsessed with watching you figure this out. It’s so entertaining! Taylor’s lyricism is so deep and descriptive. And this song has so many layers. It’s like a dark delicious cake 😂
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
Hahaha thanks!
@alexhanna2445
@alexhanna2445 Год назад
So happy you did this reaction, great video!! This is one of my favorite songs of hers. This kind of writing is rare in pop music and I love it. One of my favorite lines is ‘and you started it.’ It feels a lot like a kid getting in trouble for a fight at recess and going ‘but he started it!’ Like, when your back is against the wall and you can’t or aren’t ready to accept any responsibility in it. It’s so childlike and naive, verging on immature because obviously she played a big part in it. But it ties back to ‘I can’t stop you putting roots in my dreamland’ - I interpret this like her dreamland is this life with her husband is something she’s always wanted. She’s always wanted a partner or this life and here he is digging his roots into it. And again it’s putting the blame on him because that’s how she feels in this moment, a sense of desperation
@emarie5875
@emarie5875 Год назад
as a lesbian it is incrdibly hard for me to see this song not through a queer lense
@emarie5875
@emarie5875 Год назад
also im not gaylor guys dw i don't think taylors gay but the song to me is sapphic coded bc of my own interpretations!
@arianacontreras6486
@arianacontreras6486 Год назад
​@emarie5875 i feel the same
@Rightwhereuleftme03
@Rightwhereuleftme03 Год назад
You can totally have your own meaning of the song thats perfect and also it can totally be about emily and sue, that doesnt mean taylor is gay, it means she took inspiration from a story 🥰🫶🏻
@beth8191
@beth8191 11 месяцев назад
@@jenora3015girl bye she just doesn’t want to be attacked over it bc some people are like that damn
@Nico_lente
@Nico_lente 10 месяцев назад
Well, it was used for/after a wlw scene in Dickinson, which must have been with her permission, so yeah, I agree. Also so many of the words she chose fit that perspective. She is telling stories on Folkore and Evermore, so why wouldn't she tell a sapphic story? Especially when she's so influenced/ inspired by Emily Dickinson.
@tayy13
@tayy13 10 месяцев назад
omg the way you explained everything so clearly was great
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! I’m so glad ☺️
@warcatfurever101writeroffanfic
@warcatfurever101writeroffanfic 4 месяца назад
3:11 when I think of incandescent glow, I think of this white sheen that snow creates on the ground, heavenly and holy somewhat. It’s bright, white, and light, yet not warm as you have mentioned. It’s cold, and soft, and crunchy, yet smooth when on a flat surface. It’s like silty sand in that it is a soft material you can just submerge your hand into, yet it’s more packed and semi-solid in its fluid yet frozen state. (Sorry for the gushing. I love snow and words.)
@loverhouse13
@loverhouse13 Год назад
the affair teory is the most supported one but theres also a theory that this song is about a woman who lost the love of her life years prior the song tooking place, this theory is supported by a few things that gives the love interest in the song characteristics of a dea* person, such as a freezing hand, opal eyes, a fatal flaw that cursed him... also theres the fact that out of all the places they could meet, they only meet in the graveyard. another thing that support this theory is when she says that "he would burn this house to the ground" implying that the house is probably made of wood or smth that could be burn, but she also says "my house of stone, your ivy grows", even tho this could be a metaphor for her love and life, maybe she's actually talking about a house, the house that will always be made of stone, the grave where she'll spend all her life once she's dea*, that's why she only sits on the cemetery and waits basically, this song could be about an affair or a woman who lost the love of her life and can't move on from its d*ath (btw sorry if my english is trash i'm from brazil so english its not my first language, i hope the theory is understandable tho lol 😅)
@kvegaaa
@kvegaaa Год назад
(im)patiently waiting for All Too Well 10 🙃 love these videos!
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!! Yes it's coming I promise haha
@adriannfelipe56
@adriannfelipe56 Год назад
Love your reactions. I highly recommend you do Cowboy Like Me or Right Where You Left Me next ❤
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
It’s perfect timing. Actually. Because so just found your channel. And this song basically is the premise of my book. It’s about freedom.. not “cheating”. But when my novel is a movie… maybe this song could be in it. ❤ ha
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Too cool!!
@wantstoescapefromthisshitt6079
okay SO this song means the world to me and since i heard it in the series dickinson i haven’t been able to get rid of it and it’s always kind of hovering in my mind somewhere, so here’s some of my thoughts: first of all, this song was chosen by taylor to represent the relationship between sue and emily, so it’s very significant to the queer community, the former married the other’s brother (hence the lyric “my pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand”= they understand the struggles the both of them have, accept them and love each other nevertheless, however then ending in “but it’s been promised to another”) The expression "where the spirit meets the bone" turns out to be a line in a play by Lucinda Williams. The place being referred to is the place inside of us that no one else can really see. So the person speaking is meeting this person in a place where she is giving away everything about herself, even the places she'd never let anyone see. And the part "faith-forgotten land" refers to committing sins against her husband, or even God himself by practicing infidelity. She is showing this person the parts of her no one else can see while forgetting her faith to her husband i interpret the lyrics “i can’t stop putting roots in my dreamland” as in one of the two women keeps making the other not only wish but almost concretely BELIEVE more and more they could actually be a thing, despite it being considered scandalous, and adulterous to one’s own BROTHER, even if deep down, they do know they can never be “my house of stone, your ivy grows” is SUCH a good line, the ivy is a plant known to be spreading quickly and easily, and this feels a lot like she’s saying that’s the influence her lover has had on the person speaking, maybe almost intruding the other’s thoughts, all day every day “Clover blooms in the fields Spring breaks loose, the time is near” here the ambience SHIFTS it’s no longer cold and gray and in a graveyard, it’s spring, flowers blooming, the tone joyful and almost hopeful, which leads to the next: “What would he do if he found us out? Crescent moon, coast is clear” They’ve started seeing each other in secret, late at night when the weather is still bearable and no longer freezing, although there’s doubt and fear as well “Spring breaks loose, but so does fear He's gonna burn this house to the ground” the thrill, the emotion and excitement provoked by secret meeting and getaways, in contrast of coming back to reality and realising there could be consequences of monstrous proportions the moment someone finds out didn’t want to make it too long so i’m not gonna expand any further, but there’s a lot to say about it!!:)
@nicolelynn5450
@nicolelynn5450 Год назад
The line “my pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand” to me has always felt like her pain is this hot intense thing and it’s just soothed by the subject and not only soothed but by only the palm of their hand. I don’t know if this interpretation fits perfectly but it’s how I’ve always thought about it. Also I think it would be a lot of fun if you did some videos where you sat back down after listening to the songs more and reading the comments and go over how your interpretation changed even if you did several songs in one
@MAY_sharma.
@MAY_sharma. Год назад
Finally Ivy
@ennischen7124
@ennischen7124 Год назад
I guess from the beginning you’ve got misdirected with the line “grieving for the living”, it could be literally, but also about the situation she’s momentarily in, being with the false one and dead inside, and maybe all those who are in the similar circumstance. “My house of stone your ivy grows now I’m covered in you”makes me kinda relate to “My love had been frozen, deep blue but you painted me golden” from DWOHT, she probably wouldn’t approve of cheating but he’s brought her back to life, as he started the fire in her to love again and the war of faith, which also relates to the song High Infidelity.
@AquamarineWays
@AquamarineWays Год назад
Loved the video as always ❤️ Very good breakdown. I always find new ways of interpreting the lyrics when I watch your videos. Can’t wait for more evermore or folklore analysis from you. I would recommend ‘right where you left me’ or ‘coney island’ from evermore 🌟
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Thank you thank you!
@loverhouse13
@loverhouse13 Год назад
THIS IS WHAT I ASKED OMG IM SO HAPPYYYY
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
Hahaha yay!!
@servicedogkyzanna1761
@servicedogkyzanna1761 Год назад
I adore this song- it can be taken so many different ways, all good!!!! I wait for these reactions!!
@kennedymontoya9962
@kennedymontoya9962 Год назад
This song is so good! Great analysis of this song. Please listen to more Evermore! Every song is worth listening to.
@zontzooit2415
@zontzooit2415 Год назад
I really wanna see you react to some of her more anthemic songs as well Ovb I’ve mentioned dear John (off her recent rerelease of speak now Taylors version) and would’ve could’ve should’ve (off her midnights album 3 am version) being connected but also songs like “getaway car” (reputation) soo anthemic and is such a good metaphor for the love situation she was in, and after Oct 27 do some 1989 songs like clean or out of the woods
@holleyshighlights3135
@holleyshighlights3135 3 месяца назад
His hand is cold from being outside in the snow! At least that’s how I understand the line.
@isabellaluques1268
@isabellaluques1268 11 месяцев назад
can't wait for you to react My tears ricochet
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
This one’s on Patreon! :)
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
ivy is from EVERMORE album, you should do cowboy like me and evermore next! i love evermore even more than folklore is just the sharpest pen game she’s ever had
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I CAN'T BELIEVE I SAID FOLKLORE. I'll see myself out... 💀
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
@@meganmaclaine hahahahah that’s fine you got the feeling that’s what matters
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
It’s gonna burn this house to the ground. Because the hearth fire is out of control. It’s spring. Your love should be outside for all to see, but you have to stuff it in a house.
@Nadia.m.i
@Nadia.m.i 11 месяцев назад
Hi! Your interpretation is so great to understand the song by fans who’s English is not native language like me, now I understand it better, and I think it’s about Wuthering Heights with Heathcliff and Catherine, but she marries another guy, and she dies… that’s what I think. Also Taylor said she loves that book
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Aww yay! I love to hear this!! ^.^
@enixontejeda6142
@enixontejeda6142 Год назад
11:22 loveddd the illicit affairs reference!!!!
@malunry
@malunry Год назад
you should definitely listen to tis the damn season and dorothea just such a beautiful story
@swiftieonthewillowbrunch
@swiftieonthewillowbrunch Год назад
I love your reactions! Could you someday do 'tis the damn season and dorothea from evermore? They're connected, 2 different POVs from 2 people on one situation. And the storytelling is awesome there!
@madelinewise8692
@madelinewise8692 Год назад
Excellent breakdown. I really enjoyed how you worked through all the lyrics. You would have gotten more out of it if you'd been aware of the backstory. Nevertheless, you still understood it except for the fact that it is about two women. It seems quite likely that the song is about the secret love affair between the 19th century American poet Emily Dickinson and her sister-in-law Sue Dickinson. Sue married Emily's brother so she could always be near Emily and be seen with her everyday without arousing suspicion. They lived beside each other's stone cottages and wrote many love letters to each other. Emily also wrote poems about her including "One Sister have I" which ends with "Sue, forevermore". Emily is comparing herself to a widow who grieves the absence of her husband but Emily grieves her lover who is still living because they must live separated. Fun facts: Taylor released the album Evermore on December 10, 2020 which is Emily's 190th birthday December 10th, 1830. Ivy is the 10th track on Evermore. So is Illicit Affairs on Folklore. Apparently, Taylor is a descendant of Emily Dickinson's too.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Too fun!!
@enbrill
@enbrill Год назад
I also think “spirit meets the bones” might refer to the graveyard! For people who are religious that’s often like a literal image of what’s happening at a funeral, and then she says “in a faith forgotten land” which could reference how people say things like “how could God do this to me?” and maybe in a sense that “God” to her is the partner she’s cheating with. Also the Emily Dickenson inspiration! It’s one of the reasons I like “opal eyes” - it might be a nod at her partner being a woman, referencing a stone often used in very feminine jewelry
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
In from the snow… the warmth the light the “glow”. Comes from within during the night or the winter.. it’s the hearth fire. The heart of the house hold, the heart of the family. Your heart. Your love. When everything seems to be still or dead. When it seems too cold for growth, remember that’s just the outer shell. The snow is just the outer shell. Inside is we’re the light is, the eternal spring. The love. The fire. Inside/
@quevedomedi
@quevedomedi Год назад
I love your reactions ❤
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
thank you!
@karolinazielke2728
@karolinazielke2728 Год назад
please react to "tolerate it" it's so beautiful especially the bridge
@billalchaouche8820
@billalchaouche8820 Год назад
I love how Taylor made a song about cheating wholesome
@alwaysreading
@alwaysreading Год назад
Ivy and cowboy like me made me an evermore stan
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
Tarnished only happens to older things. Such as antiques… that’s why they are so grand. They were built long ago when love and workmanship made beautiful things there were meant to last. And in the winter of the world.. when things seem not to grow or when they are “tarnished” they can be made new again. They are not plastic modern junk. They are everlasting. Like the spirit. And like the place we’re spirit and soul meet. Our bodies. Where love is kindled and expressed. And our bodies may grow old and die, but like the seasons are reborn again.
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
The living are like the dead when they don’t keep there hearth fire. Or their glow alive. He brings forth her glow. Rekindles her heart. When we are promised to another yet that’s not with who we want to be we are like the living dead. Because we are not authentically alive. We are not tending to the hearth fire.
@becausemiro
@becausemiro Год назад
“In from the snow your touch brought forth an incandescent glow”… “my pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand”
@alizacarmona3773
@alizacarmona3773 Год назад
T. SWIFT'S 'NO BODY NO CRIME' pleaseeee I swear you'd love it 🥺🥺🥺🥺
@Maredc23
@Maredc23 Год назад
This is going to be long, so sorry in advance but I just LOVE this song, and I could rant about it forever. Okay, so in my head this is like an arranged marriage and she doesn’t want him. Now I’m coming to defend the opal eye line, when I listened to it I wasn’t sure what opal meant so I went and searched for it and it was a rock, and rocks have meanings or symbolism so if you look for the symbolism of opal you get that it is “truth, hope and purity” 🫠😭😭, so when she says “your opal eyes are all I wish to see” she could be saying that the hope/truth he gives her is everything she wants. Another symbolism in the song is the ivy in itself. Because, like you said, ivy is a weed and it is really hard to get rid of, but guess what it symbolizes…. LOYALTY 🫠🫠🫠🫠🥹🥹🥹🥹. I just love it, but I'm going to shut up now.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 10 месяцев назад
Haha I've had a change of heart about the opal eyes line :P (but I still stand behind not liking the dramatic eye color trope when it's not used intentionally). Thanks for this!! Didn't connect ivy to loyalty, but I like that!
@ry._an
@ry._an Год назад
this is one of my favorite songs ever. i was lucky enough to get it as my surprise song at the eras tour on july 1st and i lost my voice screaming it lol
@ry._an
@ry._an Год назад
also could we get some fiona apple reactions? she’s such an amazing songwriter. my favorite album by her is when the pawn and i would love to see some reactions to it!
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
thanks for the rec! It's going on the list :)
@ΗλίαςΑλεξανδρίδης
@ΗλίαςΑλεξανδρίδης 11 месяцев назад
I think you should totally check out Olivia Rodrigo some of her songs are amazing like the grudge and making the bed
@usamakhan3553
@usamakhan3553 Год назад
I think Ivy is a queer love story. The narrator is not married, she's in love with someone's Wife and she is too
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I was wondering about this!!
@rissaannster
@rissaannster Год назад
I like the queer love story theory, but our narrator is married as she says “and drink my husband’s wine”.
@DoubleBlack2.0
@DoubleBlack2.0 Год назад
@@rissaannsterI swear, I get SO. TIRED. of people forgetting that bisexual people exist…
@rissaannster
@rissaannster Год назад
@@DoubleBlack2.0of course. Wasn’t saying her lover couldn’t be female. ;)
@DoubleBlack2.0
@DoubleBlack2.0 Год назад
@@rissaannster My apologies, I misread your comment. It’s been a rough few weeks, sorry for being defensive. 🫶🏼
@Stinkyboi
@Stinkyboi Год назад
I'm dying to know if you have thoughts on the songwriting in the Postal Service's only album "give up". The songwriting is on another level and still referenced to this day as a culture shifting sound, wonder if that's something interesting
@LanaJulie33
@LanaJulie33 7 месяцев назад
What an amazing album ❤❤ takes me back to high school
@psyche.9262
@psyche.9262 11 месяцев назад
oh i love writers 💜💜💜💜
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
^.^
@jepros
@jepros 11 месяцев назад
The Cruel Summer similarities are intentional IMO. I think she’s talking about the same thing in both. In 2016 she was dating Calvin Harris when she met Joe Alwyn. She told fans she was awestruck by Joe but it was right person, wrong time. Then a few days later she met Tom Hiddleston. She has also implied her relationship with Calvin soured slowly over time rather than them just breaking up when they should’ve. She rebounded with Tom and then got with Joe soon after, then they went on to date for six years. IMO the person she is tempted by in Ivy is Joe and the husband character is Calvin. My house of stone (“I’m cold and cut off from everyone, nothing gets in”) your ivy grows (“the temptation of you is consuming me”) and now I’m covered in you. These three relationships ran so close together the fandom can never decide if cheating happened or not but I think it was close enough to be considered even if it technically wasn’t.
@ehyyou8397
@ehyyou8397 Год назад
the song is inspired by Emily Dickinson's story and it talks about the affair that Emily and her best friend Sue had, despite her being married with Emily's brother. there are letters that were exchanged between the two girls that were deeply romantic and a lot of poems about sue too :)
@elizabethjulia20
@elizabethjulia20 10 месяцев назад
LOL your moral compass is possibly more intact than mine... but maybe I also just immerse myself in a fantasy world with songs where I try to justify or understand the moral pov of the narrator regardless of my own feelings. But with ivy it gives me such old time & period piece vibes that I never got the ick because it gave me "betrothed" or promised to someone not of her choosing... and this love is so inescapable it's literally ivy covering everything. Princess Bride/Romeo and Juliet/Outlander/POTC will and Elizabeth visuals fill my head, it doesn't give me modern day cheating ew ha.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 10 месяцев назад
Yeah that's fair! It's definitely good practice to put yourself in the main character's shoes. And ohhhh POTC Will and Elizabeth oh dang... that may change everything for me haha XD Good point!
@elizabethjulia20
@elizabethjulia20 10 месяцев назад
@@meganmaclaine HAHA the moment I have characters/narratives associated with lyrics it changes everything for me too... glad to share the vision hehe. Would love to know if you listen back and the Will & Elizabeth (or period romance) changes the tone for you! 😉
@LiamHarel
@LiamHarel 8 месяцев назад
Her writing is just -🤌🤌🤌
@alicekathleen13
@alicekathleen13 10 месяцев назад
I always imagined this song being from the perspective of Lady Chatterley from "Lady Chatterley's Lover"
@Aleee89
@Aleee89 Год назад
All the vocabulary and scenary makes me believe the story sets way back in the days, 19th century or so. I interpret the "freezing hands" part as her lover being a woman, since we tend to have colder hands than men. So her lover can hold all the pain that shee feels about being married to a man she doesn't love. She also blames her lover for making her fall for her: "it's a goddam blaze in the dark and you started it", in a time where they can obviously not live their relationship publicly. She has no choice but to fight these feelings (the ivy covering her) every single day, knowing this love affair will lead to nothing but more pain. Once you know about Emily Dickinson and Sue, it all makes perfect sense.
@greensss6922
@greensss6922 8 месяцев назад
A little tip for you, if you will react to Evermore and Folklore songs of Taylor, always imagine that you are in 1700's - early 1900's . That is the setting for those albums.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 8 месяцев назад
Haha that is a huge time span! Definitely figured those songs were referencing a bygone era. It's been fun to revisit them after seeing everyone's comments and insights!
@bornfromstardust1526
@bornfromstardust1526 Год назад
It's a lesbian love story. By "freezing hand" she's alluding to a feminine hand that's usually colder. It's said to be about Emily Dickinson. The album came out on her birthday and the song was featured in the series Dickinson during an intimate scene between Emily and Sue. Why does people have an issue with someone else having an affair? For us gays, historically, this was the only way to have a taste of love. It's still the only way for us in soo many countries.
@biasampaio5899
@biasampaio5899 Год назад
I really have some songs from those albums that I need you to react to: The Lakes - Folklore the last great american dysnaty - Folklore Willow - Evermore Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince - Lover Death By a Thousand Cuts - Lover Exile feat. Bon Iver - Folklore The trilogy of Betty, August and Cardigan - Folklore (these have to be listened to in one sitting so you'll understand the stories better) epiphany - Folklore tolerate it - Evermore long story short - Evermore 'tis the damn season or no body, no crime feat. HAIM - Evermore (you pick). All of these songs I think have very intricate and nice storytelling and seeing how excited you get when listening, reminds of the way I listen to Taylor's music, I also pay very close attention to lyrics because I'm also a writer, so I love your reactions so much, and I think these will tickle your brain just right.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Love a good brain tickle!! Lol (I like that phrase XD). So glad to meet a fellow writer as well - glad you're enjoying the vids!
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
Dude. Where the spirit meets the bones. “Heaven and earth. “ and literally our bodies. A faith forgotten land… “us, now, our society. The way we live scared worried anxiety, not trusting in good not believing everything is okay”
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Yessss - our bodies! Love these points - thanks for adding them ^.^
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
i was expecting this one so much!!! people say is kinda about emily dickinson.. for me is a saphic proibited love. when she says first line “i’d meet you where the spirit meets the bones” is a CEMETERY. then she talks about COLD hands. then “i’d live and DIE for moments that we stole” SHE DIED her husband LITERALLY BURNED THE HOUSE TO THE GROUND and she died. so she keeps haunting the place forever regretting her whole life and missing her loved one. “he wants what’s only yours” i can clearly picture a man coming from the bathroom to the bedroom wanting sex and she just hates him and doesn’t want that at all. anyWAY. that’s just me. i LOVE this song, one of her best lyrically
@isabellezversion
@isabellezversion Год назад
also her HOUSE OF STONE is the freaking graveyard
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THIS!! She's dead for sure... lol
@Aldz__
@Aldz__ Год назад
The song _ivy_ is one of my favourites off of the evermore album, alongside _closure_ and _right where you left me._ You're right, this one is more of reflections and hinting and it's quite refreshing. Based on your analysis, I somehow noticed that the *house made of stone* could be *burned to the ground* because the ivy has already taken root in it. If the house was set on fire, the ivy will be burned, and the house made of stone will be destroyed in the process. If the roots already seeped deep into the rocks, the house is probably broken already, but the roots of ivy is the only one keeping it together, if that make sense. Nonetheless, this song seems to be so appropriately titled (because of all the words present in the song, like roots, grow, spring, incandescent which brings the overarching cottagecore vibe to the song), and I'm here for it. About the opal eyes, I thought that opal is black in itself, but with different colors just like what you said. Maybe the eyes is black, but it reflects a colorful person...? If you want a song that is more of action and less on reflection, please take a listen to _no body, no crime_ from the evermore album as well. Their plot is similar, but the method of storytelling is drastically different. This song also reminds me of The Great War from Midnights because that song also feels appropriately titled and it has a lot of words that you might hear in/about a war. These kind of songs are great examples of how the proper choice of words influence the ambiance and the atmosphere of the story.
@imawakemymindisalive13
@imawakemymindisalive13 Год назад
we have the same favorites 😂 but it’s gold rush for me instead of closure
@theo-ez3yp
@theo-ez3yp Год назад
that line about “the old widow goes to the stone but i don’t, i’m grieving for the living” always bugs me a bit i initially thought that this means that 1. the narrator’s husband is dead in her eyes, as she is in this affair, so she ‘grieves’ her living husband of course the question with this interpretation is: why would she grieve for the person she’s cheating on? the only answer i find for this is that ivy takes place at a different period in time and that maybe the narrator’s marriage was arranged or that the affair she’s having is forbidden by societal standards and still her wish, but she doesn’t want to hurt her ‘innocent’ husband 2. she says that she is opposite to the widow, not grieving (or empathizing) with her husband, instead grieving for the “living” which would be her and her extramarital lover
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
As I listened again (and again haha), I feel like the widow is grieving a lost husband who DIED, but the narrator is grieving a "lost" husband who maybe gave up on the marriage or isn't connecting with her or doesn't love her anymore, etc. (whatever the reason is that motivates her toward an affair). I could also see it as grieving her and her lover, too, though!
@Anthology_of_Holly
@Anthology_of_Holly Год назад
⁠@@meganmaclaineI totally agree! She knows the marriage is ‘dead’ and the affair will be found out soon. She’s just waiting for the moment when it all comes out. That’s why she’s waiting and ‘grieving’ the husband who’s still alive.
@dianajanna7228
@dianajanna7228 Год назад
This song is written from the perspective of Sue Gilbert who was married to Emily Dickinson's brother. They were in love with each other
@elephant2072
@elephant2072 4 месяца назад
to me 'where the spirit meets the bones' is the cemetery... and she grieves for the living because she is a ghost
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 3 месяца назад
TEAM GHOST! Love it ^.^
@BobToons25
@BobToons25 Год назад
So correct me if I'm wrong but the person who the narrator is in love with is never gendered - ive always imagined this as two lesbian witches in love with eachother and thats why there are so many references to fire and them being burned. I also think 'where the spirit meets the bone' is a reference to her soul, which is also the faith forgotten land as she is a witch a member of the occult. But thats just my interpretation
@knoxlphoenix3522
@knoxlphoenix3522 Год назад
Hi!! Sorry but the song Ivy is not from Folklore, but from Evermore. Though I understand they’re the sister album anyway.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
I knowwwww 😭. I’m fired
@rayclay3249
@rayclay3249 Год назад
I think the only person that is actively cheating is the speaker because throughout there's only been mentions of "my husband" and no mentions of the lover's significant other. Also, I think "it" in the line "Taking mine, but it's been promised to another" was most likely referring to the speaker's hand which has been promised to another, because "Taking mine (my hand)" being the preceding line before "it's been promised to another" which meant that "my hand" would be the subject of "it". Dunno if I explained that well or not though.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
You did! Thanks for sharing this - I can get onboard with that :)
@Kidgangforever
@Kidgangforever 11 месяцев назад
Roots in her dream land. Her dreams, her hearts live…. House of stone? House of death… ivy covering it to show that life will always retake dearh. Like seasons. Fatal flaw? Because we are kept dead by following rules of a society…. That say “do this, not what your heart wants” Life says when you follow your heart you are cheating. If we didn’t follow dead rules to begin with then our hearts wouldn’t seem fatal (fatal flaws.. cause you die in either world). You die in graveyard land if you stay with societies rules. Or you die and become an outcast for. The graveyard land (or the land of no faith). Because you followed your heart instead. I’m saying he or she would be promised to another their heart doesn’t desire because society or the faithless land pushes us all to make those choices.
@BlueRaven73
@BlueRaven73 Год назад
I think you should react to masie peters The songs i think would be good are wendy, history of man, and bsc because lol😂 i love wendy because of the peter pan references.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this!!
@sahilrajput6471
@sahilrajput6471 Год назад
Can you please do Evermore the song next! It is the most beautiful song. Pls pls pls❤
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Evermore went live today!!
@jepros
@jepros 11 месяцев назад
I also think the freezing hand is just because he came in from the snow haha
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 10 месяцев назад
Truth haha
@SireneAtlis
@SireneAtlis Год назад
Okay so how I see it is her hand is promised to another (aka she’s married) but she feels this other person is her soulmate and they are having a secret affair. The line my house of stone your ivy grows now I’m covered in you. I see it like her marriage is the house and he is the vine/ivy because vines growing on a house can ruin the structure, so she loves he so much that she is risking her marriage for it.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
Oooh I really like that interpretation! Thanks for sharing it ^.^
@maggieandersen460
@maggieandersen460 Год назад
I know a lot of people hear this as a lesbian love affair but I personally never took it that way, never even saw it as a possibility until I saw someone saying it online. I always related it to a woman cheating on her husband with another man who was just too charming for her to resist, not that I think she necessarily tried too terribly hard. I also think it’s so interesting how she blames the man for “starting” it and then acts like she had no ability to resist, like it takes two to tango girl. I’ve always felt a lot of pity for the husband in this song, like man is getting cheated on big time AND they had the nerve to drink HIS wine. Rude. Hahaha, honestly I loooove this song, one of my faves off evermore.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 10 месяцев назад
I like that you can interpret this one in a few different ways! Glad I'm not the only one who had this sort of view on it haha :)
@klmjtr
@klmjtr 2 месяца назад
I just feel like every song is somehow about Matty Healy at this point. 😅
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 2 месяца назад
Honestly? Yeah… 👀
@lubalethudube186
@lubalethudube186 7 месяцев назад
I think she is engaged to someone she doesn’t want to be with. She is the faith forsaken land she, she never believed love would happen for her, or she stopped believing in love and decided to marry what makes sense. Then she meets this person who brings her back to life. Now the wedding is about to happen and she is begging him to ask her to run away with him and leave her fiancé and now the guy is taking a step back. This gives the rage at the end to say YOU STARTED IT
@willmcnally3388
@willmcnally3388 Год назад
"Id meet you where the spirit meets the bone" i pciture several different ways buuut - is this not just a sex metaphor? Followed by "faith forgotten land" because its an affair? Beautiful beautiful lyrics
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Could totally see that!
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
This song is all metaphorical. The person is metaphorically dead. The other person is full of life (incandescent glow). Also, this song is inherently queer. Probably autobiographical because it IS tied to other autobiographical songs of hers (cruel summer, like you mentioned being one of them)
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
Those “he” pronouns stand out for a reason. She is talking to the person she wants to be with (a woman) about the man who she is stuck with.
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
10:18 She uses “opal eyes” instead of “eyes” because it makes the eyes inherently feminine.
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
11:34 the first time she talks about her house it’s a metaphor for her life and how guarded she is. The second time, once the Ivy has grown on the house (her life is now theirs) she is talking about their life, their relationship. That’s why he would want to burn it down
@camryn5709
@camryn5709 Год назад
The reason I believe this is more autobiographical than other people are agreeing with is, for one, context clues. She writes queer music all of the time. She codes her love interests as women in songs she admits are autobiographical all the time. She even admits that the song breathe is about a woman, Emily Poe. Secondly, if Taylor were straight she would not get away with using queer stories for her benefit. The LGBT community would not let that go.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
I could see that!
@cloudyxsxies583
@cloudyxsxies583 7 месяцев назад
She’s the one cheating because when she says “taking mine but it’s been promised to another” the “it” refers to “mine” so her hand. Its kinda worded in a confusing way lol
@mathies3598
@mathies3598 Год назад
this is all but confirmed to be about Emily Dickinson being gay for Sue Gilbert and having midieval marriage costums that she had to adhere to, so I dont blame her that much for cheating
@montysano
@montysano 23 дня назад
Our narrator has a husband. The object of the narrator's forbidden desire has a husband. So one would infer a lesbian relationship. Taylor is just so damned good at this! Swift's writing often puts me to mind of Jason Isbell, another favorite of mine. He's very much prone to writing songs where you really have to mind the pronouns and prepositions.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 21 день назад
Not sure I see any lines that imply the narrator’s lover also has a husband. And I’ll have to check out Jason Isbell! ^.^
@montysano
@montysano 21 день назад
@@meganmaclaine Now that I read back through the lyrics, I'm less sure myself. Check out Isbell's song "Live Oak".
@montysano
@montysano 21 день назад
@@meganmaclaine "He's in the room Your opal eyes are all I wish to see He wants what's only yours" I think "he" is the narrator's husband, who wants her (our narrator) but she's "yours". Taylor is tricky! Check out Isbell's song "Live Oak".
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 14 дней назад
Yes! So only the narrator has a husband (at least that we see in these lyrics) :)
@montysano
@montysano 14 дней назад
@@meganmaclaine I read back through and you're right. Taylor is crafty....
@dantejoe
@dantejoe Год назад
Is Ivy associated with a male figure or female?
@juliette6035
@juliette6035 Год назад
NOO the best version of ivy is the clean version
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
hahaha you stop that! XD
@Aldz__
@Aldz__ Год назад
Hahaha lol, I kinda agree with this one. Further proof that Taylor doesn't really need curses on her songs. She probably just uses it for the clout. I also love the clean lyrics on the outro: _“So yeah, it’s a fire_ _It’s a _*_violent_*_ blaze in the dark_ _And you started it_ _You started it_ So yeah, it’s a war_ _It’s the _*_fiercest_*_ fight of my life_ _And you started it_ _You started it”_ My religious friend loves this song and recommends it to everyone, little did he know that he is listening to the clean version. 😐😑 I still don't get the divisiveness on the clean and explicit versions. So just listen to whatever version you prefer, and just ignore or cut out the profanity, or put on the video of the explicit version on the small screen despite listening to the clean version (or vice versa), and we might not notice it at all lol.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine 11 месяцев назад
Those lyrics definitely add more… that’s kind of why I like the clean versions more so far (apart from Champagne Problems). It’s just more descriptive 🤷‍♀️
@lilith5633
@lilith5633 Год назад
random, but you look like alba baptista😅
@r.maciel2544
@r.maciel2544 Год назад
This generation's obsession about condemning cheating makes me think ya'll are cheaters.
@narbuka
@narbuka Год назад
I love hearing your thoughts but I don't understand the point of cutting so much of the song when you're already pausing to add commentary. I know I can go and listen to the song if I want to hear it but you named these "reactions" yet it doesn't feel like a reaction. Your first few lyric analysis videos were the perfect format imo and now I don't even enjoy watching them because the editing is so jarring. And putting up a patreon and making it 10 dollars when you barely have 4k subscribers is... definitely a choice. You would get so much more views and interaction if you just posted them on RU-vid. Swifties LOVE eat all of it up. I'm not saying all this to be a hater, I'm just very disappointed with the direction you're taking with this channel. At the end of the day it's your channel though, so you could start posting monkey videos and no one could say you can't lol. It's just really disappointing.
@meganmaclaine
@meganmaclaine Год назад
Hey! Thanks for sharing your thoughts - these are good questions! I've had to start editing the videos like this to avoid copyright claims :'(. Most reaction-style videos don't use the entirety of the copyrighted media for that reason. (And it's better not to, as it's not my material anyway!) I do definitely prefer having the entire song in there, but videos get flagged when I do and then you have to dispute the claims, and it's a whole situation (it's been a learning curve since starting these :)). Ultimately, I really don't want my channel to get banned haha... Patreon is then a way that channels like this are still able to earn something off the work that goes into this style of video (which take a whole lot of hours), and 99% of what I post there is still going up on RU-vid. Only half a video per month is going to be on Patreon exclusively, so you'll still get basically all of the content here as well. I hope that helps! And thank for you saying you recognize that I have the freedom to do with my channel what I will. I really appreciate that! Hope you'll still stick around for the TS vids that are coming
@narbuka
@narbuka Год назад
@@meganmaclaine Thank you for the explanation! 🙏💓
@yousef5953
@yousef5953 Год назад
do you have an ig account?
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