Giving Birth in CAS (Sims 2, Create a Sim Experiments) 

He has a lot of presents to deliver lol. Busier than Santa Claus.

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Soooo does this imply Nervous has a twin???

@@peachymunmagenta Technically yes, in the game data there are two nervous subjects, tho one of them is "beta" and hidden

I thought he was the most common father at first because Julien kept getting pregnant with the Grim Reaper, but later a lot of Sims also got pregnant with the Pollination Technician, and less often with other Sims on the same lot, so I think it varies a bit but is usually one or the other. Yeah, I definitely think they got the idea for Olive's pregnancy while testing out the Pollination Technician pregnancies since they both happen in Strangetown.

I'd say it doesn't recognise what they are. It looks like part of the simulation is still present in the CAS mode, while another part is gone. Kinda like a dummy lot that doesn't truly exist. So the game probably expectes a list of household sims to be on the lot but gets absolutely confused when it other sims somehow appear (the bartenders, babies being born) and has absolutely no idea how to comprehend that. It probably doesn't save them because it only saves sims that are part of the household, but why it clears/saves the pregnancy is beyond me but then again.. this whole situation is just strange.

Yeah, it weirdly seems to remove the pregnancy tokens from Sims but can't keep track of babies being born. But the only reason most of those babies outside CAS were born (like Sarah Ottomas,) was because of the story progression mod, and the bartenders were treated like inactive Sims too by the mod so the babies were sent somewhere but you could still see the baby models on the lot (at least with that one set of twins,) so I think the mod was probably doing most of the work there and it just can't work through CAS as it wasn't designed to. Maybe it didn't know where to send the babies to (although the game seemed to recognise that the lot was located in the Test Island neighbourhood so... Yeah it's just weird in general lol.)

@@CalipersandTongs I believe CAS creates a dummy lot for each neighborhood when you are in CAS, when you create Sims (And then remove them), it adjusts the character data files for them in the core neighborhood.

Aw thank you. I think a lot of my videos are a bit niche and long (a lot of sims videos are about 15 minutes I notice,) and The Sims 2 attracts less attention on RU-vid than The Sims 4, so it's harder to get those sorts of viewcounts I think. (My commentary is a bit awkward too lol, and things like that effect how your videos are promoted.)

Also, the lady's gibberish name, "yry", looks like a Russian word "угу", which means "yeah", and I was like- "oh! Cyrillic keyboard! i wonder where they are from" xd

Hah I was basically just pressing random keys quickly to get a name so I could save the household.

It makes me wonder now if the Sims didn't keep disappearing after the birth and I saved them, if they would have had remnants of the baby's data but it seemed like the face swap only lasted for a moment anyway.

I think most likely whatever happens in CAS doesn't get saved, the files for the sims you created only get created when you save and leave CAS. The fact that CAS happens in a lot is more of a set dressing. The alien face showing up on the CAS sim is also a symptom of this because both the CAS randomizer and the baby creation code are the same, that's why "rolling the pacifier" was the fix for the firstborn syndrome before doing it on the batbox (and now we have LD's RPC which fixes the randomizer properly).

I think first kiss might be possible (maybe with ACR or something if it works in CAS,) mostly the Sims just fight lol but if I can get some Sims with more nice points it might work out. I think the memories still won't be saved though (besides the CAS memories.) I've heard that making Mrs Crumplebottom into a vampire can mess with the game so that would be interesting. I didn't really mess with her lifestates when I was playing with her before just age. My headcannon for her is that she's a witch though.

@@CalipersandTongs Sorry i didnt wanted to change ur lore 😭but myb she can be witch that use vampire powers, some type of hybrid.

It does sound like it would be a lot of fun. I might do a video at some point where I send her to a community lot and make her a vampire, and maybe test some of the other lifestates, than change her to a witch as the final form.

It's a story progression feature.

Yeah it's just part of the story progression mod not that interesting sadly lol. I don't know if they ever got as far as developing the actual hospital side of things? But I might have missed something in the game files. I just noticed the unused strings for phone calls for the ambulances and things like that while looking before.

@@CalipersandTongs Some hidden messages saved on TCRF, in Unused actions section. For example this message about nanny and ambulance: "An ambulance has arrived on your lot. The nanny can stay overnight, but you will be charged for the extra hours. Would you like the nanny to stay overnight?".

@@CalipersandTongs I also read that Criss Hatch found that the ambulance in the game were 95% complete. This was written about on the website The Sims Creative Club, on forum thread "История разработки Симс 2", page , post №11: "As for what was discarded (or rather, " muffled"), a little less than everything was restored and implemented by Chris Hetch in his "Angels and Nurses" add-on (as his "baby" version was called), who was one of the few modders who honestly admitted that he took everything out of the base game and only adapted it to "Mansions and Gardens". He was modest, of course, as he did a colossal job and, by the way, the way he described how he saw the "ambulance" and "hospital delivery" roughly match my vague recollection (he insisted that it was 95% complete)." "Что касается того, что было вырезано (вернее - "заглушено"), то чуть менее, чем всё было восстановлено и реализовано Крисом Хетчем в его дополнении "Ангелы и Медсёстры" (так назывался его "детский" вариант), который был одним из немногих мододелов, который честно признался, что повытаскивал всё из базовой игры и лишь адаптировал это к "Садам и Особнякам". Он, конечно, поскромничал, так как проделал работу колоссальную и, кстати, то, как он описывал, в каком виде ему предстала "скорая помощь" и "роды в больнице" примерно соответствует моим смутным воспоминаниям (он настаивал на 95 процентной готовности)." You'll find a lot of interesting discarded content in this thread from The Sims 2 and The Sims Stories.

Oh, that's cool. I haven't tried his hospital mod but I wanted to at some point.

I think it's just very niche content lol (and most of my videos are a bit longer than the average 15-25-minutes,) but thank you. The CAS videos are my favourite when I can actually get them working (slightly frustrating troubleshooting stuff though lol.)

Nah you put your whole game at risk sometimes its great

I'm planning on making a video including the Hula Zombie and Penguin eventually, and I really wanted to do one on the big boss scenario and was thinking about that the other day coincidentally, but I'm not sure how to get it to work (I've only recently started looking into that though.) There were a couple of threads on modthesims I found where someone said that Chris Hatch got it to work, and they were trying to do the same. They uploaded a video of it and some screenshots, but they've all been removed since then as this was back in 2013-2014 and both threads got locked in the end: modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=518950 modthesims.info/m/showthread.php?t=513237

Thanks :) Someone else did ask about that a while ago but I've never managed a discord server before, and the idea makes me a bit anxious (I don't really use discord much either.) There is another RU-vidr Moni who makes corruption videos and has a discord server though.

I didn't try that, but I just assumed the game generates new babies and children from scratch unless some of the hood children have been taken away by the social worker. Might be worth looking though just in case.

@@CalipersandTongs yeah, I thought that they might get there the same way as taken away kids))

@@CalipersandTongs other than that - wanna say that I love watching your videos!

The Grim Reaper dying is on my list of videos I want to make so I'll definitely be looking at that at some point, but I think it will probably just break the game (or the death animation part of the game) lol. Some supernatural traits can be created in CAS if you use the debugging tool. You can get the alien eyes and skintone and the zombie skintone, but I don't think they have any of the other zombie traits. I can't remember but I think you might be able to get the PlantSim eye colour in CAS too but not the skintone. I think PlantSims, werewolfs and vampires all use overlays instead of skintones so they don't appear in CAS. There are some werewolf type outfits though from what I remember, and you can also make Sims that look like servos (sort of. I think their heads get a bit broken but can't remember,) but none of these Sims have their occult behaviour/skills etc.

I did look through the place where the global NPC's and ghosts were stored with at least some of the births and didn't notice any new Sims there. Might check again after moving some of the CAS lots to the hood.

@@CalipersandTongs they could have been sent to a completely random location because this game does that sometimes x) I'm not sure if it'd be a lot of looking because my simpe doesn't work for some reason so I never used it, but checking everywhere you can might be the only option to find them, if they even are still in the game :,V

Yeah, I haven't played with the story progression mod for normal gameplay yet, but I think it syncs time on all lots like in The Sims 3, so it probably conflicts with the other mod and makes it redundant as time should progress on all lots. I just forget to remove it every time I record lol.

I looked at the CAS lot in SimPE later and there were references to Sim relationships but and I placed the lot back into the test hood but there was nothing unusual about it and no way to access any Sims. Also couldn't see any sign of the Sims in the neighbourhood package file. The crashing was interesting though, there was clearly something there causing issues. I know genetics in CAS and the system for making babies are connected somehow because you can fix the first born syndrome glitch by rolling the pacifier in CAS or using the make a child feature in CAS and mixing two Sims genetics, but I don't understand the specifics.

I couldn't find any signs of them after leaving CAS or in SimPE, and I think their character files weren't created and saved, so I think they're probably gone. But sometimes when character files get deleted from the game parts of the data are not removed and end up merged with other Sims (like what happened with many Sims in my Blightgate neighbourhood before.)

Hmm actually there does seem to be some references to 4 Sims on the CAS lot itself, but just relationships between unknown Sims, so I might try moving that version of the lot to the neighbourhood later and having a look but without the DNA etc I don't think much will happen. There are also some references in an older version of CAS I made for other videos with Sim DNA and Sim descriptions. I guess that would be from when I was saving Sims on the lot while in the neighbourhood and moving them in though before moving the lot to the game files.

Hey I'm sorry about that I have no idea why that is happening because there are only 4 ad spots in the whole video and RU-vid says that not every viewer is shown every ad. But I know the default settings will generally have 10-20 ads randomly placed so maybe RU-vid is ignoring that I removed most of them or something.

@@CalipersandTongs I see. Thank you for the reply.