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Might fire up the old 14.4k dial up modem to enjoy the full vintage experience in its full glory.

@@willjdeanie I have it on BetaMax if y'all want to come over and watch it on my 13 inch FULLY color TV console. Might even roll out the fondue machine.

Beta max eh? ..... I shall fire up the Sinclair C5 and be straight over. Uou can Page me the address . I'll bring some refreshments, a couple cans of tizerr, marathon bars, opal fruits and so on.

If you start adjusting the tracking on your betamax now you can probably get it 'just so' by the time I arrive

Exactly! There's lots of great repostes back and forth, not recorded here that would make for a great script. Winston Churchill would make an appearance towards the end of the GOM's reign, to add a resonant note of poignancy to the movie, too! 😂

yep, im watching right now and its truly captivating!

Boris Johnson is very knowledgeable on the Greeks? Those were the days I guess...

+Par N Thank you for watching, Par!

@Rufus Burne no, its gotten better. At least we missed the Anglo-Saxon invasions...lol.

michelle stein-evers frankl you have history classes in the untied states??? I. Can t tell by talking to americans or reading what they attempt to write

Molly May the very language you’re speaking is English you moron, on the subject of grammar.

,@Molly May where do you live have you looked round the projects recently ,plus the amount of really overweight, people is half our population Britain and America are the same as in rich countries which shouldn't have poverty but do creaking old infrastructure,. pretend democracies

@meeka - as a fellow American, I say to you if you are desirous to learn more British history, READ WIDELY AND DEEPLY. One of the best things for me when I was a student in the public school system some years ago is that it gave me the incentive to engage in independent reading. I enjoy reading and broadening my mind and intellect. So, take heart and treat yourself (for starters) to Winston Churchill's "The Island Race."

Disraeli or Gladstone?

@@dwijgurram5490 Disraeli

Darren Renna Thanks, Darren. I hope you find other films of interest to you on my channel. Welcome! Regards - Alan.

Deos he wanted more ottoman control in the Balkan’s because he saw free Balkan lands up for grabs for the Russian empire who were competing with the British in the Middle East. D’Israeli I believe also regretted sending battleships to Constantinople after the Russo Turkish war in 1878

@@neilghosh3821 Gladstone was a Tory, a liberal. He supported nationalist sentiments, in Ireland and Bulgaria, as he was drawn to their plight.

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typical slavic idiot

​@@bektemisovabai Proof? Look in the mirror and you'll see a real dipshit staring back!

I think u need to check your facts

I mean there were of a number of Land Acts, more or less to this end, some of which were backed by Gladstone. It's not the whole story but he's not wrong

The idea that Roman Catholics were unable to buy law because of the "Penal Laws" in the 19th century is a travesty of history - complete historical illiteracy - and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the purposes of the Land Acts. The Penal Laws, whose primary purpose was to prevent RCs holding offices, were repealed between 1771 and 1793, almost 80 years before Gladstone set about land reform. The purposes of the Land Acts were to fix rental values, fix terms of tenure and to encourage a subsidised transfer of land ownership from landlords to their tenantry. It's beyond belief that anyone would think RCs couldn't buy land in Ireland! The level of ignorance people have about Irish history never ceases to astound me.

The idea that Roman Catholics were unable to buy law because of the "Penal Laws" in the 19th century is a travesty of history - complete historical illiteracy - and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what the purposes of the Land Acts were. The Penal Laws, whose primary purpose was to prevent RCs holding offices, were repealed between 1771 and 1793, almost 80 years before Gladstone set about land reform. The purposes of the Land Acts were to provide fixed rents, fixed terms of tenure and encourage a subsidised transfer of land ownership from landlords to their tenantry. It's almost beyond belief that anyone thinks RCs couldn't buy land in Ireland! The level of ignorance of Irish history some people have never ceases to astound me.

+SU HUA Leow Thank you very much. I'm very pleased that you found the film interesting!

Gabriela Zayas Thanks Gabriela, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Lance Mallette Thank you, Lance. I'm very pleased that you enjoy my channel. More to come!

+Verna Selander Thank you, Verna! I hope you can find other interesting films on my channel. Regards, Alan.

Thank you Dr Brown!!!!

You are most welcome, Lydia. It's not often one of my videos inspires further research! Take a look at the History Room website at www.historyroom.org There might be something else to interest you there. Many thanks for your positive comments. Regards - Alan.

@matthewabney3889, Like Queens' Elizabeth and Mary, who are "entombed" at Westminster Abbey, within close proximity to one another.

But which is which? I have spent hours online trying to search up who the lion is and who the unicorn is.

@@BoraCM Gladstone certainly looks more like a lion

But were they statesmen?

Any relation to David lol

You know that stdachey was a plagarist and generally a stinker?

Gladstone is in the process of being 'cancelled' at Liverpool University because of a speech in 1823 in which he defended, obliquely, the slave trade. The building - Gladstone Hall - will be renamed. The university said it is "addressing contemporary racism." Interesting to see that 200 years ago is now considered 'contemporary'.

@@NathanielHiggerson I stand by this post! Gladstone was anti-Semitic. Queen Victoria was very wise in her response. I question your response!

@@NathanielHiggerson Frankly, I am appalled! I may be part Jewish, although I am uncertain. I CONDEMN anti-Semitism. Disraeli was a great British Prime Minister!

Are u still feeling sorry? Lol. I always go to my enemies funerals.

@@nadimovitch9237 Can't you just disagree intelligently without a liberal sarcastic retort SMH

Dizz played dirty & was no gentleman in that regard.

Mary George You are most welcome, Mary, thank you.

But! Art imitates life imitates art!

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment

If the Ottoman Empire was taken by Russia, or another great power, the new territory would completely upset the European balance of power. In other words, it isn't so much the collapse of the Ottoman Empire that would destroy Britain, but the absorption of the additional territory. I believe this is actually the cause of the Crimean War? Hope this helps!

watcherjohnny Thanks, Johnny!

+Ashley Hyatt All i could find on Lord Palmerston!!! www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00j3xd1

+Cal Lore Cheers! Took a listen. It was brief, but worthwhile. Thank you.

try books.

+Ashley Hyatt I had a dvd called a prime minister on prime ministers which was presented by harold wilson. Palmerston is on there among the likes of attlee,churchill,lloyd George etc very interesting if you ever get the chance to watch it

"He addresses me as if I were a Public Meeting..."

Jason Carson, right on! You took the words right out of my mouth!

It was churlish.

It was pretty Dizzi would of gone to his he never hated Gladstone ,Gladstone hated him though

Been there, done that. It's very uncomfortable being at a funeral with your enemy.

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Heather Nance Thank you, Heather!

+Francesca Sakellaridi Thank you, Francesca, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

What a superb assessment, thank you. I very much hope that students of this period read your views because they could form the basis of a good argument for any number of political essays both historical and modern. Regards - Alan.

to me modern day politics in the usa seems to be about which billionaires and which lobbyists/corporations have which politicians on their bankroll to vote whichever way they want.

pedzsan Gladstone, then Chancellor of the Exchequer. along with Foreign Secretary Russell and P.M. Lord Palmerston, connived to have the Empire recognize and support the slave south during the American Civil War. in the 1830s Gladstone had written a magazine article setting forth the trends and statistics which suggested that by 1890 the US's population and especially its economy would dwarf GB's. By the 1860s, Gladstone and the other two most important ministers in the imperial government at the time of the Civil War wished to see the national breach in America be successful--creating two competing nations rather than one huge one, fighting for decades over the western territories and thus thwarted as competitors on the international scene. Those three men saw the issue in cold geopolitical terms. In the wake of General Lee's short ten months rush of successes, topped of by his last victory at the end of April 1862, the three men were regularly making pro-Confederacy public statements. They set a meeting of the full Cabinet to discuss recognition of the Confederacy and intervention to "mediate" its successful separation from the United States. Because of the size of the Cabinet--over 25 members, and their schedules, the meeting was set for the third week in October. When the issue came up for discussion at that meeting not a single member of the Cabinet spoke on behalf of the Confederacy, not even the three main ministers of the government who'd hope to secure Confederate recognition at that meeting. In spite of the American south's cotton trade, the England had always traded more with the northern states. Secretary Steward's diplomatic treatment of Britain was to send a parade of northern businessmen to visit their counterparts in England to inform that any action taken by Britain to assist the Confederacy would be seen in America as a stab in the back during times of distress. These businessmen warned it would mean war, total disruption of trade and turn loose American privateers on British trade, Most importantly it would cost the empire Canada. Canada was Britain's greatest concern, as it would necessarily be an issue resolved by forces on the ground, not naval power. Imagine Generals Grant and Sherman leading a million man army directed at Canada in 1866. Additionally, in the interim between setting the cabinet meeting and it taking place, two things had happened in America. The first was the Battle of Antietam--appropriately seen in England as a drawn battle, but nonetheless breaking the string of successes Lee had enjoyed and the Emancipation Proclamation. With labor union meetings of unemployed British workers-- put out of work by the cotton famine cause by the war, about to write letters to Lincoln of profound endorsement for a nation struggling to overcome slavery in its midst--letters that American even now cherish, the result was an utter failure for Palmerston, Russell and Gladstone, none of whom dared say a word in support of their motion for recognition of the Confederacy. Like Churchill, Gladstone's career lasted so long and he was involved in so many issues that this one seems just one in the British background. However, imagine if that supposedly moral man had been successful with his policy; slavery survives, the two American states would have likely struggled for decades over the prize of the western territories; and when European war broke out in 1914-18, there would have been no American power to toss a million men a month into the fray. Indeed, the mutual suspicions between the two American states would have required they both keep their troops home. Finally, at the second meeting of the WWII chiefs of staff, FDR asked the highest American Admiral, Earnest King, how the navy was getting along with the British navy. King responded that the British were temporarily "loaning" the US part of "their ocean" for the pendency of the war; such was still the dominance of British seapower. As for Palmerston's prediction that the US would threateningly outstrip the the Empire economically by 1890, such came to pass, but it was so focused on internal trade that Britain would not lose its imperial trade dominance until European wars exhausted the will and means to sustain it. If I were a black American, I'd have absolutely no respect for William Gladstone as a progressive actor. He'd just as soon kept one out of eight Americans in abject bondage in order to sustain an imperial dominance that might have been lost in war in 1918 had Palmerston's policy succeed. We have the good fortune that Henry Adams was posted as secretary to his father, the American minister to England, during the Civil War years. That great historian describes the formulation of British diplomatic and war policy in his memoirs,"The Education of Henry Adams." That book is available in print and in audio for free on-line. Very enjoyable video. Thanks.

+Moses Bullrush Of course it was about slavery. At $3.5 billion, the four million enslaved African Americans in the South represented the their greatest financial asset. Confederate commander John S. Mosby: “I’ve never heard of any other cause than slavery” The following are parts of the declarations of the causes for seceding by the states that made up the confederacy: South Carolina: Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin…Louisiana:As a separate republic, Louisiana remembers too well the whisperings of European diplomacy for the abolition of slavery in the times of an­nexation not to be apprehensive of bolder demonstrations from the same quarter and the North in this country. The people of the slave holding States are bound together by the same necessity and determination to preserve African slavery.Alabama:Upon the principles then announced by Mr. Lincoln and his leading friends, we are bound to expect his administration to be conducted. Hence it is, that in high places, among the Republi­can party, the election of Mr. Lincoln is hailed, not simply as it change of Administration, but as the inauguration of new princi­ples, and a new theory of Government, and even as the downfall of slavery. Therefore it is that the election of Mr. Lincoln cannot be regarded otherwise than a solemn declaration, on the part of a great majority of the Northern people, of hostility to the South, her property and her institutions-nothing less than an open declaration of war-for the triumph of this new theory of Government destroys the property of the South, lays waste her fields, and inaugurates all the horrors of a San Domingo servile insurrection, consigning her citizens to assassinations, and. her wives and daughters to pollution and violation, to gratify the lust of half-civilized Africans.Texas:...in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.... In 1858, the eventual president of the Confederacy Jefferson Davis threatened secession should a Republican be elected to the presidency:I say to you here as I have said to the Democracy of New York, if it should ever come to pass that the Constitution shall be perverted to the destruction of our rights so that we shall have the mere right as a feeble minority unprotected by the barrier of the Constitution to give an ineffectual negative vote in the Halls of Congress, we shall then bear to the federal government the relation our colonial fathers did to the British crown, and if we are worthy of our lineage we will in that event redeem our rights even if it be through the process of revolution. You too know, that among us, white men have an equality resulting from a presence of a lower caste, which cannot exist where white men fill the position here occupied by the servile race. The mechanic who comes among us, employing the less intellectual labor of the African, takes the position which only a master-workman occupies where all the mechanics are white, and therefore it is that our mechanics hold their position of absolute equality among us. Georgia Governor Joseph E. Brown:Among us the poor white laborer is respected as an equal. His family is treated with kindness, consideration and respect. He does not belong to the menial class. The negro is in no sense of the term his equal. He feels and knows this. He belongs to the only true aristocracy, the race of white men. He black no masters boots, and bows the knee to no one save God alone. He receives higher wages for his labor than does the laborer of any other portion of the world, and he raises up his children with the knowledge, that they belong to no inferior cast, but that the highest members of the society in which he lives, will, if their conduct is good, respect and treat them as equals.

Sir: You have the means and opportunity to learn and overcome your embrace of ignorance and myth. The actors at that time spoke for themselves. The record of those utterances still exists and is largely available to you on the internet. You need only read their speeches, the comments made by them and reported contemporaneously in the Southern press and in the "Articles of Secession" adopted by the various insurrectionary rump conventions held in the southern states. They make it perfectly clear. It was all about slavery. You are an ignorant dinkleberry hanging off a hair near the asshole of the nation, waiting for time itself to brush you off into oblivion. Jim Crow is fifty years dead. They mythology you embrace was intentionally promulgated for two reason: to give Jim Crow some "heritage" aside from a direct denial of the nation values of freedom and equality and secondly to express the racial hate at the root of both the slave south and Jim Crow. That you can express such view in the 21st Century marks you out as an embarrassment to your young. The day you die, will also be a day they are relieved to no longer have to be ashamed of you.

His nudge nudge wink wink tone in discussing Gladstone's sexual proclivities has not aged well.

+Mike Russell Thanks for watching, Mike.

Kavon Fortin I'm glad you enjoyed it, Kavon!

+Haroldinho HD lol

I would add to your posting Gladstone condemned the massacre after April uprising in Bulgaria and supported the struggle of Bulgarians for self determination and independence,he organized mass protests in London . Disraeli denied what happened(hole population of few cities slain,piles of skulls stay in the memorials to remind for that disaster ) and this way politically supported Ottoman Fundamentalists Islam atrocities on Christians in the Balkans. Bulgarians are very grateful for Gladstone position and action that is why many boulevards and streets in many cities in Bulgaria were named Gladstone. Disraeli was main figure in the Berlin Congress who maid big mess on the Balkans , because of his and other European politicians decisions Balkans were destabilized many wars folowed, In my opinion Disraeli is political criminal who stains British and European policy.

Gladstone could ignore atrocities to just look at the British Dutch and Germans in Africa though Germans were worst.by.far

Plus the Berlin congress was seen as a success at the time sometimes it takes the distance of time to see how things really turn out

Molly Streames i guess you mean atrocities too. Don t forget the belgians in africa maybe the asskicking they took in world war one was retributive justice

atrocities are rarely ever policy.

"crime of being Jewish"???