@@daydreams6956 maybe they have facial cysts that happen from some foods and gluten intolerance? they are these bumps that dont have puss, but people mistake them for zits...my sister has that and has to eat really clean....no processed foods.
Bret Williams that only started happening when Instagram took over This was still in the early 2000-ish .. Where people felt like the minute someone saw even a stitch of weakness of the sort, they'd lose control
That was early 2000s. Now if this happened when I went to high school, they would've been like dang she glowed up or some would be rude to her. She's also a jerk, so.
@@Funeral_Mannequin She wasn’t “really pretty.” She had the potential to BECOME really pretty, hence the glow up after she decided to take better care of herself.
Tyreana Jolla oh please Quinn had it coming she bullied everyone but her main target was always rachel and no matter how nice Rachel was to her she just kept being a bitch to her she it deserved she is no victim she literally went from being bullied to being the bully trust me she got her just dessert😊
What a stupid and childish thing to say. Sorry there is nothing else I can say than that people like you are bad people. It is not okay to bully, we can agree on that. But fighting fire with fire does not help anyone. Instead you can talk to people and show them the impact and effects their behaviour has on other people. There are better ways do handle such situations and I really hope that you think about what you just said.
I don't feel like this is any different than how the popular kids use the "loser's" pasts against them! This is Quinn getting a taste of her own medicine like if she'd been bullied herself then surely she wouldn't bully others coz she knows how it hurts xxx
I felt sorry for Quinn, but I was mad, too. She knew how it felt to get bullied, but she did the same thing to Rachel? She had a great glow up, but it would have been better, when she wouldn't have forgotten who she was before she went to the most famous and most beautiful girl in WMHS.
Antonia Dallas the bullied always becomes the bully. Whether you believe it or not when you say something it could have a great effect on somebody and you not even know it and they can remember that their whole entire life but to you it was just a comment that you completely forgot about.
I like how everyone is psychoanalyzing bullies and bullied, but I sometimes feel this Lucy backstory thing was written for this episode and not necessarily what the writers had in mind when they first introduced Quinn.
Seriously...that's all I get from this. That Ryan had a weird hate-on for Dianna and saddled her with the STUPIDEST stuff. It's actually funny. She gets no solos and just gets reduced to the generic, pretty mean girl and then Ryan's like "did we mention that she was a fat, ugly TROLL that had to switch schools?" lmao. Like something like that even happens to a fifteen-year old. And dialogue like "I discovered I was athletic" is so cringey. Come on!
“No , I love myself. And that’s why I did all those things.” Fucking THANK YOU. People always assume that people change for others. And while that can sometimes be part of it, it’s not about you guys. It’s about the person making the change.
Right! Changing my appearance doesn't mean I don't love myself; I don't consider my appearance as something that makes me myself. The point of body positivity is that your appearance doesn't define you, so why should altering it mean someone doesn't love themselves.
If Quinn was so bullied and so unhappy when she was Lucy, why did she become such a horrible bully herself when she became Miss Popular Quinn? Especially when she knew what it felt like to be treated so badly!
Camilla because when you've been at the bottom and had to fight and claw your way out, any move anyone makes that could potentially push you closer to the bottom by comparison fills you with the terror that you'll fall back to the bottom and be that miserable person again. So you continue to fight to push others down so you stay on top, so you don't end up falling back to the bottom.
I'm sorry, but in my opinion Quinn was not a horrible bully, maybe she was a bit mean towards Rachel at the beginning, but during/after her pregnancy she developed a great friendship with Mercedes, Kurt, and so on, just look at the smile she gives them in their performance of "4", or her and Artie after her accident. All in all she has never been the mean bully herself, although she was friends with some. You could see from season 1 that she's actually a nice person who just really wants to be popular
Lauren didn't know the "Lucy caboosey" nickname until 2 minutes into their conversation and managed to make the poster, print it off and get it on the bulletin board all in under a minute.
I pretend this story line doesn't exist actually because it's BULLSHIT, Quinn was always supposed to be a natural beauty even in season 3 they say her daughter is gorgeous and looks exactly like Quinn and guess what ? her daughter is BLONDE so even Glee chose to forget about this stupid story of "Lucy"
what i don't understand is how people understood that the flyer of lucy caboosey was really quinn? like it didn't look like her at all and it didn't say _'quinn'_
anyone realizing quinn is a damn prodigy you know how difficult it is to start ballet, gymnastics, and cheerleading late and even though we never see her really do any of it we hear how good she is in the how and how she is head cheerleader so yes queen
when people say "love yourself ", but when you make changes, like go on a diet, or workout, or get plastic surgery people turn. I'm all for people loving themselves and when people make those changes, they do it because that's what they want, and no one has the right to say" you made those changes because you hate who you are."
I think the best form of self love is transforming into what you want to be and people shouldnt tell others thats wrong if thats what they want. Everyones gotta stop policing everyone elses bodies and what they choose to do with them
I always found it confusing when people claimed that altering your appearance means you don't love yourself cause I never felt like my appearance was 'me'. The size of my body, the colour of my hair or the shape of my nose isn't what makes me, me. It's ironic because isn't the whole message of body positivity is that how you look doesn't define you.
When I look back at glee I realize that everyone hated each other. It’s only in season finales that everyone is friendly and likes each other but when a new season starts, everyone is back at each other’s throats.
Everyone gets annoyed by this storyline because of how “unrealistic” it is but come on, Glee was never meant to be realistic! People in high school don’t just casually burst into song and have slushes thrown at them. The most realistic scene was when Karovski tried to kill himself for being gay because that is something that high school kids struggle with. All Quinn did was get a nose job, dye her hair and lose weight. People associate fat with ugly which is why it seems like she changed loads but she didn’t. All she did was start dancing and lose weight. She was been beautiful either way, she didn’t need to make those physical changes because, when she stops trying to be “cool” and “popular” you see that she’s actually a kind and caring person, she just hid behind that “popular girl” to protect herself because you’re either a bully or you’re bullied in high school. That’s how it works. Also, obviously her parents were going to say she was beautiful from birth if she wanted to hide that part of her history.
The nose job part is literally impossible. You can’t get cosmetic rhinoplasty until you’re at least 18. They definitely would never perform it on a 14 year old
That picture doesn't even look like Quinn so there's no way that people would know it was her if she hadn't run out and taken it down. It would just look like some stupid prank and she could always say that Lauren was lying. Pretty sure they'd all believe Quinn.
It kind of sucks that Lauren and Quinn were pitted against each other when they were two sides of the same teenage beauty standard coin; Lauren was a former child beauty pageant princess who fell out of favor with judges when she didn't lose weight as she grew (essentially growing out of beauty standards) and Quinn/Lucy was a girl who people didn't see as beautiful until after she changed everything about herself to fit in (essentially growing into beauty standards). I'm glad that this didn't negatively affect Quinn, but I wish they'd really explored this more. Also screw Puck for throwing Quinn under the bus for his new crush after everything he did to her.
I know it’s been years but I would actually love to see a series on Lucy at Belleville High and her growth all the way up to when she finally became popular at McKinley as Quinn
I feel so bad for Quinn.. all she wanted was to feel good about herself, who she worked her and got there. Lauren tried to beat a bully by becoming one.
The greatest thing in the movie/tv series industry by now is that they couldn't find anything wrong with Dianna Agron, so they had to do this storyline to put something on her shirt for the Born This Way song. This still makes me laugh to this day. :D :D :D
This is freakin' amazing!!! I am just seeing this clip today (2021-03-08) and I never watched Glee when it was on TV. So I didn't know that character has the same names, Lucy Quinn, as my granddaughter!! I love that!!
2:14 Glee must have been sponsored then, Proactiv does NOTHING for acne and just dries your skin out, when acne is caused by a condition beneath the skin. It robbed me of my money throughout my teenage years and I was stuck thinking it was all my fault. I know, irrelevant but that bothered me.
Milo O'Rourke Its pretty cliche and plus unrealisric considering that in all those years with her best friends and her boyfriend they haven't seen a picture of her when she was a kid. With a coach like sue it had to be brought up at least once.
She had a good enough story line already with her parents, her dad was probably abusive and her mom seemed to want her to be that perfect girl. This was pointless
So Quinn’s not innocent but Lauren should not have taken the low road like that. There are other ways to handle things and become a bully yourself really isn’t one of them 🤷🏼♀️
I mean, Quinn made me mad for doing all those things as Quinn, but I really felt bad for her as Lucy. But then I realized she's doing the exact same thing to Rachel, and I'm like, "What? You just changed your whole lifestyle because you were bullied, and yet you're doing it to someone else?"
Im confused. Lauren couldn't have known what Quinn's nickname was yet it was on the poster. Quinn only told her what the nickname was after the poster was put up.
Why is Lauren being so mean to Quinn? Everyone had a past so what? There’s no need to go all “bully” and make that past public. That’s just really mean
This storyline made no sense. Quinn was always depicted as classy. Naturally beautiful and elegant. It’s absurd of them trying to convince us she was ever anything other than perfect.
Okay, so she made some changes to herself: 1) Nose Job 2) Weight Loss 3) Became a Bully instead of being the Bullied 4) She didn't mention how her hair changed from red to blonde so obviously she dyes her hair.
This comment section shows that most people don't understand how bullying works. A lot of bullies were bullied that's why Quinn became a bully. Doesn't make it right but you got hurt and bullied so you feel better about yourself by doing the same thing to someone else
I was bullied too when I was younger for being overweight and having skin issues. I worked out and found a dermatologist. Best decisions in my life. Even if they show my old photos, i dont think it matters. I was that person and I am who I am now.
The way this show is able to connect storylines from so many episodes ago. Her concern for Mercedes developing an eating disorder makes so much more sense now, it also explains why she’s not the stereotypical ruthless popular girl
I think this is why she's a bully - she's been bullied and rather than seeing it as a reason to be compassionate she's afraid of being bullied again so she becomes to bully to avoid it happening again. She's feeling stuck in the past and can't look beyond her own bad experiences so she's unable to feel compassionate about it because she hasn't fully come to terms with her difficulties.
The inaccuracy is the delivery of Lauren calling "Lucy's" name. How they hell can you hear your own name when the person calling it probably didn't yell it out properly?
No I think the show wants us to see Lauren as a bitch here She did something mean This was in the episode where they discussed how you should always live yourself but if you don’t like something about yourself (not because of how society sees you but just something you don’t like) you should change it.
Just one thing...if Lauren didnt know the mean nickname how did she post the flyers all around the school right after their conversation. You can clearly see that she says go look at the built in boards, so she couldn't of possibly known.
