I gotta say as an owner of a real steel Glock 17, this is pretty realistic to the actual function of a real firearm. Was never an airsoft person but I might get into it after seeing this video
Would you say that its a great training implement since ammo prices are unbelievably high? I mean does the feel and handling translate to a real glock 17?
@@TheAcolyte01 I train with 22LR. You might consider the G44. I have a G17, but my EDC is a SIG P365. My training pistol is a Ruger SR22. You can get 22LR as low as .15/rnd. It's more fun to train with than greengas or co2. It also seems more simple, just get ammo and a gun. No finicking with gas and all the stuff that goes along with airsoft or BB. I also like going to the range. At some point I may get a BB blowback just to take shots while I watch TV. Most ranges will have the G44+ammo and will rent it out to try.
I have to say, I wasn't expecting too much as I've never had an airsoft gun, but Andy's reviews helped guide me to this gen 4. Having a 9mm gen 5, the weight and feel of this Umarex airgun is awesome, it actually feels heavier than the real thing! It's a little more balanced in the grip area due to the metal mag, but the perception of quality is awesome. The metal mag is genuinely nicer than the actual plastic Glock mags. The full blowback and features make it an awesome practice tool for when I can't go to a range or a rural backyard. I'm thoroughly impressed by the job Umarex did!
I saw on reddit that some people are having trouble with the screw cap going back on after inserting a CO2 canister, some have even completely stripped it trying to get it back on. You don't need force, the key is that it doesn't screw on flat, but at the angle of the mag, so the back will appear tilted down and the front will appear tilted up. Just use the wrench at the same angle as the mag and lightly spin it and it will grab.
@@jackhenry290 Why? I don't feel the need to carry a gun to go to a shop. I also own full power rifles and shotguns because I hunt, so stop believing your ridiculous prejudiced views over what happens over here.
I love Umarex, but it'd be nice if they could roll all the good bits into one Glock instead of having various models that do certain things better than others. I'll still be picking up the Gen 4 though, as I'm a big fan of realistic looking and working pistols. Thanks for the great review as usual
You will be very happy with the gen 4 ...i picked up a glock case and a spare mag and it looks the "dogs" accuracy not great but thats the only real down side.
Exactly I believe me I got that all my least favorite was the 17 gen 3 with its clunky slide and it's half cock blowback system. ..finally I got exited for this one and guess what they forgot to add the damn glock floor plate at the bottom of the magazine lmaooo 😂 I can only wonder if it was done on purpose
Andy, you are a great salesman. I kept watching videos on this one CO2 pistol and bought it. What I find so refreshing in your videos is you know what you are showing us. Like you went through it's manual. Why would I say that you may ask? I watched another "Reviewer" on this very same gun and he hadn't a clue how to remove that small cover at the bottom of the handle for inserting a CO2 cartridge. I sat here having a grand ole time as he went about his way of removing it. He did say the Manual was excellent so I wondered to myself why didn't he...READ IT FIRST before making fool of himself online. Getting back to you are your great videos, I enjoy them and will be waiting for any new videos from AAR On Air !!!
The magazine release is also reversible for them leftys but the umarex/Elite Force/VFC Glock is probably the best "Glock" on the market to this day great video bud
I know how to fix the shooting low problem, the inner barrel is just floating around inside the outer barrel. So of you just put some electric tape in the end of the inner barrel. It works alot better, shoots where i aim!
I thought so! I just ordered mine today (along with a leather holster for training, and to protect against scratches, and a drop leg holster for open carrying the 9mm version of the G4 I have), and I was hesitant as the original review for this gun featured the baseplate, but the last two I've seen including Andy's didn't. I have a Beretta APX by Umarex as well (in addition to the brand new Ruger AirHawk Pellet - that gun is insane), and the Beretta does feature only half-blowback and a tinny slide. Very pleased to hear that the one I've just purchased is exactly what I'm looking for.
I bought one of these on the day they came out in the UK (I'm a big Glock fan so have been waiting for this for a while). I think this is about as close as you can hope for to a real Glock 17 with current CO2 tech. It feels pretty nicely made and as Andy says does have a good weight to it, and the recoil is really nice for a CO2. Obviously not close to a real pistol, but again, probably as close as you'll get. The "flaws" with the gun are mainly down to the design of the original (ie the infamous safety), and generally you either buy into the Glock design or you dont. I'd also say mine shoots pretty damn accurately out of the box at around 7m - certainly not low. My one gripe is the price. Whilst it does feel well made, I wouldn't say it feels any better made than my Cyberguns P226, which was around £40 less! I'd also love to have seen something like the shell ejection system in the new Winchester rifle make its way into these, but I'm guessing that's a way off yet due to the limits of space etc in pistols. I think Andy is bang on the money. This gun is all about the realism. If you want a faithful replica, that's fun to shoot, and you like Glocks, you wont be dissapointed. Just wish it was a little bit cheaper!
Good points. I think we are paying for the deal Umarex made with glock. That branded glock name licensed out bumped the price up. Also they were due to be released with laser engraving, but fortunately they heeded the advice of gun fans and shipped the slides back to Germany after assembly for CNC engraving (thank god). Love mine, but have to disagree about it being the same quality as the p226 (which i also own). A lot better imo. Enjoy, cheers, Andy.
This gun is unique in that it uses the same lower as my real glock 17 only difference is two holes drilled to except the co2 conversion when i saw this i was amazed that they were sold because you can buy these with no FFL and you can go to glock and buy a trigger group and a completed slide with no FFL shipped right to your door pop out all the pins drop out the co2 parts drop in the new trigger group pop on the new slide wala working glock 17 and now the left has a gun problem so when they do come to the us its gona be interesting...
@@andyakarudolfhessiansack7936 A quick update a few months in. Andy, you're right, the quality is definitely better than the P226! After a few months the P226 was showing some wear and odd bits of paint had started to rub off. The Glock is still pretty much as it was when it came out of the box - and it gets A LOT of use ;) I pretty much only shoot this now as its so satisfying.
Great review ,i actually purchased the m17 .177 pellet pistol based on one of your recent reviews and that in my opinion is the best co2 replica pistol on the market right now, back to the the gen4 glock ..accuracy is not great..but if you work with it you can get get results, but like you say its about "ownership" this thing is pretty dam near to the real thing in terms of feel and operation, if you are looking for more of a collectors piece then this is for you, great trigger that almost goes single action on reset , also the trigger will stay locked back if dry fired with no mag/empty mag (no c02)or locked back slide,the mags DO drop out when you press the mag release (not sure why you would release a mag side ways) . This gen4 model is a lot lot better than all the recently released umerex glocks including the pellet/bb version , that was a big disappointment as i really wanted the pellet version and i had both in hand ,also purchased the non blowback 19 and gen3 17..both sold on. if you want a good as realistic glock 17 gen 4(uk) then i don't think you will be disappointed ...but the sig m17 pellet..great pistol and very accurate.
Love my Umarex Glock 17 Gen 4 powered by green gas. I love it and almost feels like having a real one. It's so identical to my dad's real G17 Gen 4. The slide was what gives it away and the authorized by Glock writing but yeah I had fun with it since my teenage years and still using it now for fun. Kids outside playing with springers and when I go out and play with it shooting cans, those kids goes crazy it's fun. I'm letting them try it too. It's the closest thing the kids will experience holding a real gun at this point of their lives. Just the smiles is so much fun
Thank you for making this video. I have real G22 Gen 4 with a 9mm barrel and needed a BB for home practice. I thought this was one I needed, but the magazine not dropping freely was a stopper for me. I went with a Umarex Glock 17 Gen 3. It was cheaper and felt close enough. I did notice the tinny sound, but was worth it for cheaper price and mags. I got mine because the G17 Gen3 mag drops freely and it helps with reload practices. All in it was $85 shipped to me. I picked up a 19X also hoping the magazine was reusable in my G17 Gen3.
At the local store they sell a Glock gen 3 without blowback and I was excited to get one. Before making a decision to buy it or not I looked online and found your video and was surprised at how much more improved the gen 4 version is, and how many fun features it has. I went to an airsoft website and found the same BB gun from your review for only $50 more than the asking price of the gen 3 and made a purchase. Thanks for the great review of this BB gun. The one I ordered will show up in the mail next week.
The stock sights are actually windage adjustable and removable! I've bought an OEM adjustable sight by Glock to correct for the low point of impact and it works wonders. There's a screw under the rear sight that just has to be loosened up a little
Hi iam interested for adjustable sights because iam very disappointed about accuracy of this pistol. Can sent the link for the shop to buy the sights. Thanks
@@petrosrouvim6979 hi there, this isn't a pistol you buy for accuracy but just Google for Glock OEM adjustable sight and you should find local shops selling them. I think that RU-vid doesn't allow for links in the comments anyway
I finally got mine today. After literally scanning the entire planet and checking the inventory of every air gun store on the internet, I finally found it at Amazon. And no, I'm not shamelessly plugging for Amazon, I'm mentioning where I got it to hopefully help people out who may be looking for it as I was. From what I understand, this particular model is in very high demand. I've seen these things on Ebay for over $500 bucks and used! And as badly as I wanted one, I managed to keep myself in check and not dare spend that much...especially on something that's used. As you say in your review Andy, it's very well made and very sturdy. I have a Umarex Glock 17 Gen 3, a Umarex Glock 19x, and a Umarex Glock 19. Out of all of them, this is definitely the best. I haven't gotten it outside yet to test its accuracy, but I'm keeping my expectations realistic and hoping for the best! I loved this review...thanks Andy, your doing a great service for guys like me.
Just shot this G17 gen4 yesterday for the first time. Looks and feels good. Shoots okay - as all other BB pistols like this one. Shoots horizontally center - but waaaay low (as in this video). Not bad of a grouping though appears under the aimpoint. Used lots of co2. Only a bit over 60 shots - so probably 4 full mags totally.. The fit of the mag into the grip was nice and snug. Sweet that the follower is lockable down - although I do not really use that option myself while loading BBs. The follower spring is not too hard, but just perfect. The slide sits really well on the lower receiver. Love the way they have done the guide rod+spring, barrel and inner barrel setup. All parts easily removed. Those pin locked inner barrels have been annoying to take apart (as on the HK USP and Colt M45 CQBP for example).. Basically a decent BB replica pistol - even though shoots very low.
@@jorgeo1492 I think the backspin is more beneficial for airsoft BBs on longer ranges. My G17 shot 2-3 inches under bullseye from just 6 metres. No hop-up can rectify that. Besides, I already rebuilt the inner barrel setup a long time ago. Is accurately on bullseye now
@@VenomShadows305 I took completely off the original plastic shroud from the tip of the inner barrel. Added a few strips of electrical tape underneath the barrel, where the groove is. And around the inner barrel tip I put a slightly too large rubber o-ring. I then just filed the top part of the o-ring flatter so it lifts the inner barrel tip more upwards but also sits snug within the outer barrel. It kinda is a trial and error thing. If shoots too high - then just do it again with less of inner barrel tip lift. But the original setup shot way too low and was just unforgivable.
i couldnt agree more about all the air gunners saying the first blowback was clanky and made poorly. i sent mine back but this i think i would get and stay in my collection. thanks for the review!
tactical lights making safety unusable isn't a problem, real glocks don't have manual safeties. also slide coming off forwards is how every handgun is taken down
Got mine today with black widow .177 steel bb and let me say one thing,that is the best airgun i have ever use insted of being canadian and stuck with nothing for gun handling with our stupid laws i will keep handling this one and feel the deal .....😲😲😲
Just finally got mine. Wouldn't shoot. Stripped it down and lubricated the gun internals, the magazine sliders and the CO2 screws. Now boy does it shoot! Love it! Got to get gun and mag holster now. :)
I handled all their Glocks in Person when buying my first air pistol. Having handled a real glock, I was seriously shocked at the slides on all the glocks they make. They are so weak in terms of blow back and release. They feel quite spongy even, their guns do make a nice noise when releasing the slide catch, however none of their glocks do.
Its not bizarre that the takedown is like that - real pistols are field stripped like that. Infact the few flaws you mentioned all seemed to be related to realism (like the added safety not being conspicuously marked). Accuracy is a low priority to me with these replicas, the realism, feel and faithfulness to the original is what they're about. For accuracy and power I'd use a .22 air rifle. I think the Gen 4 looks like the best replica of the glock 17 yet and I hope to get one myself. I have the CO2 springfield XDM replica by air venturi and its very realistic, and I think this glock has been made with made similarly - with realism and faithfulness to the original as a priority.
Looking at all the Glock Air guns and your great I have to say, reviews, the 4th gen 17 looks the best, as its field stripable and has a stunning mag. I have one and love it
I was seriously convinced that this was a real weapon until he pulled out the magazine. Even the 9 by 9 mil markings on the upper part, jesus that’s convincing..
Great review as usual, thanks! You've got to accept the safety catch for what it is though, Glocks were conceived from the very start as not having a manual safety, it's all part of the design and ownership of one. Bemoaning the design of the manual safety is like buying a Single Action Army revolver and not being happy about having to pull the hammer back for each shot, it's the way they were deisgned to be. Top marks to Umarex for at least incorporating a safety without making it visually obvious.
Glocks are amazing. They are not supposed to have a "safety". The safety of a Glock is based solely on the middle trigger safety, and the weight of the pull. I personally love the fact they tried to make the gun as true to real as possible. The Umarex 19 did have a extra safety by the way, its on the top area of the trigger (side to side safety), which blended in nicely.
Most definitely you know what ur talking about 💯 also glocks are a great gun for keeping one in the head if you know what you’re doing that is. However for the people who carry without it cocked, not cocking it can act as an extra safety. (For the people who aren’t sure) also wearing some tough material pants like jeans are great for being able to rack it with one hand you can use the sights to catch the slide
to me it just doesn’t get any better than a Glock. Sure there are plenty of guns cosmetic wise that may look cooler to some but you just can’t beat the reliability of a Glock
Yes. The non-blowbacks do shoot harder. These blowback airguns can be very sloppy in worst case. I own Umarex H&K USP with blowback and without. Both shoot great on target. But. The non-blowback shoots up too 170 BBs with one co2 cartridge - and hard.
@@abyss7378 The blowback USP shoots about 60 good shots with one cartridge. But I have been all good with that. Around 60 is quite a common number of shots on blowback replicas that have the rubber lip gas port on top off the magazine, as on the blowback USP, and many others. The blowback pistols with a magazine like in the Glock 17 gen3, Glock 19X, HK VP9 and ISSC M22 can give you up to at least 80 good shots even. My own HK VP9 just recently gave me 80 good shots.
@@brorjordas1979 I'm all new to this and I'm not sure about buying one because the guns are quite expensive so do u have any recommendations considering the price?
OK, I've picked one up. 😀 Build quality appears great; feel & handling excellent and, unusually for Umarex, mine at least appears to have been *lubricated* ! Absolutely a keeper.
Four inches low at 8-10 metres? Mine too. Field strip. Take out inner brass barrel assembly and turn the plastic, shouldered split collet back to front. This lets the rubber mounted barrel move within the outer barrel. Not a tack driver but will scare the bullseye of a paper target rather nicely. Very ammo sensitive. Brand new unused Umarex bb's only.
They should have made all the bb and pellet guns like this were they can do all the things that a airsoft and a real gun can do. I bet that there's a big market for bb guns like this
I wish that someone would start making stick magazines for pellets, especially since there's such a wide variety of pellets these days. I also wish that someone will also manufacture hand guns that made much higher FPS, even if 2 CO2 cylinders were needed at the same time. I remember as a little brat growing up; my older brother ALWAYS had a .177 crossman pump action BB gun rifle.
Excellent video (especially for a newbie to the hobby). The only downside of this gun seems to be the low shooting tendency and I take what you say about not being built for accuracy but.... Red dot sights can be cheap and despite needing an underslung adaptor to bring a rail up top (as I don't believe the rear sight is dovetailed and therefore doesn't offer the option of a rail plate on top - could be wrong), they would seem to offer a way of compensating for the error. Does this seem plausible or am I missing something and barking up completely the wrong tree?
I like the safety. Hear me out... Okay, it sucks as an operational safety, sure ... but as a "storage safety" that's also relatively child-safe, it's a winner. I also like that the co2 is in the mag and thus can be removed from the body and kept separate ... again, good for those with younger children around. I'd like to see more replicas with a proper thumb safety AND a hidden "storage safety" - one that's not nearly so obvious or easy to operate for little fingers or curious teens. For example, on THIS glock... a hidden switch inside the slide, requiring a 'strip' to ready the weapon again after making safe for storage. I have an HDR50... and it's completely the opposite story. No depressurising the handgun... no safety at all... it's a worry if you have kids about. Given that it's designed to be readily accessible for _'less-than-lethal'_ home defence, at least some thought should have been put into keeping it kid-friendly. Just my 2c _(as adjusted for inflation)_
Great review, much better than mine. You nailed it on the gun Andy, my thoughts exactly, but i like mine much much more than you do lol. The safety is of no concern for me personally, but your defo right in your comments about this. As for the pellet version, i would say dont get your hopes up, it will have the tomo old fashioned magazine that is totally pants. TBH my accuracy was as good as any other air pistol i own (bb anyways) so it may be an individual gun problem. I still hold fast in what i have said, it is the best bb shooter i own, and most realistic i own too. This is a must have for any glock fan. I LOVE IT. Again ..... great review. (another ) > Andy, UK.
Florida boy here from across the pond just letting you know most guns that are semi automatic that are pistols to field strip forward and I own several actual blocks myself this appears to be as close as you can get without shooting a nine Millimeter
I'm about to collect this exact one from, a shop in Bristol. I haven't had a plinker since my CP88 1999/2000 looking forward to it and I'm just glad it's not an 8 shotter 19 shots seems like a dream to me! Haha.
I have one these on order for my son , i have to admit the first few minutes of you video i thought i had screwed up but all and all it sounds like you approve of the Gen. 4
I have the gen3 glock 19 and I just ordered the glock 17 gen4 yesterday. I'm super excited, especially since my Blackhawk holster and accessory rail flashlight will go on it..
Ordered this one a couple of days ago. Quite excited of the quality mentioned in the video. Not sure yet where this is manufactured - but I bet it is KWC in Taiwan, because they produce my favorite quality BB airpistols. Kind of shame it shot a bit low.. but it was 8 meters nonetheless.. And it is nothing I can't handle and fix. Can't wait for it to arrive now!! Thanks to AAR for yet anlther sweet airgun review!
@@boyermchristopher1 I ordered from Militaria.pl in Poland. They have apparently gotten of these new Glocks in stock now. I have ordered many times before from there. Quite decent prices in comparison to prices here in Finland.. And these usually arrive for sale over here way late mostly..
@@josegalvan9374 Yes. 8 meters ..or my 6 meter range. Shot very low. No idea why it shoot so low. Some hickup in the design I guess. Shot quite center, but just too damn low for my taste. I did replace the plastic shroud on the inner barrel for it to shoot a bit higher - but it did not help as much as I wanted..
I’ve never really been able to get into air guns I bought a umarex berreta m92 years ago and hardly really used it, i feels it lacks realism it looks great but you could never drill with it. A little dated now they have been out for decades. This glock however could genuinely be used as a training aid. You could put it next to a real 9mm glock on the range and the drills would mirror each other Going to trade in my gammo rifle and berreta and put it towards this! Pellet would be nicer as long as they ditch the cylinder magazines and maybe go for a belt fed like the Sig 226 pellet pistol and keep the gas and ammo in the mag together so all the bits that make it an airgun are still nicely hidden away in one removable place! Great review well spoken i’m sold
I have the exact same problem with accuracy shooting well low, now the fixed slide G19 I have is much more powerful much better on gas, and superbly accurate But the G17 is great to look at but that’s all.
@@kyzmn I have the G17 gen4 and it's still not as Accurate as the G19 gen3 and still suffers from low fps.. also the plastic frame is very cheap plastic
Just received my glock 17 gen 4 today looks like there may be a few minor updates, Am I being silly? But the slide doesn’t lock unless the catch is manually lifted whilst no Co2/bbs are in the gun (not shot it yet to try last shot feature)
@@RyleKittenhouse I actually had to return the gun and get a replacement, the gun wouldn’t lock with the mag in either, think it had a faulty magazine, the one I have now works as normal 👍 was a bit frustrating !
@@RyleKittenhouse yeah definitely worth getting! The gen 4 seems the choice over the gen 5, I know there’s a gen 5 Pellet version coming out and there’s the paint ball versions etc. BB is a lot easier just with the Co2 👍 seems a great gun so far, I use excite Copper BBs with mine work great and don’t bounce!
@@GamingCornerYT yeah was looking at them but as you say gen four seems the best. Will get the paintball one one day for some extra laughs. Every time I see a new co2 pistol I’m like take my money. Have about ten but only two hands hahah
Awsome channel Andy an excellent reviews, but when you've fired your last shot and the slide has locked to the rear, check theres no rounds left in the chamber, you then take the mag out first then let the slide go forward and fire off the action, not the other way round 👍
Thanks for the video and full review. I was thinking about getting this BB gun for serious daily target practice. I use a different BB gun regularly for target practice because it's trigger pull and general feel is a lot like my daily carry. I wanted a Glock replica mainly for the difference in trigger type. Your review helped me decide that this model Umarex is a decent replica. However I do need better accuracy to spend over a hundred bucks for another BB gun. Thanks again for the review.
I don't rely on 'physical Safety's' I always use the grey matter between my ears and, keep my finger off the trigger. Great reviews, have just purchased this, thanks to your review 👍
Andy thank you for your great review! May i ask you to please recommend me on a co2, blowback good target shooting pistol? Something realistic would be great too. Thanks for your amazing work
A lot of the features you complained about are features on a real glock. For example, the lack of safety and taking the slide off. In my mind the reason people buy these is to have a low cost substitute for practicing with a real glock, 9mm rounds are still 30-40 cents per round here in in the states.
As something to include in the reviews of any air pistol that has the simulated "blow back"/recoil, can you include a quick look at how much the barrel moves around relative to the sites on the slide? It would be a good indicator if the thing can be accurate, and for the small sample I have shot, has been horrendous. For some, an air pistol that can at best shoot a 2 inch group at 25 ft is useless as a tool to practice with at home.
Bought one, and sure it looked the part but nothing but trouble with it. After 5 months had to buy a new magazine as the spring had deformed, then 14 months later only one blow back after last bb, that being the first mag dump. 16 months later for every 18 bbs fired 6 would just roll out the inner barrel. Took it apart and the cheap copper inner barrel had snapped inside the rubber hop up. So now it's just an expensive ornament. Pure garbage, also heard terrible things about the gen 5 pellet belt getting stuck or snapping. Just stay away from them and get a crossman, never had any trouble with my 3 different crossman Co2 pistols.
Nice pistol thanks for the honest reviews. But from a collector that has quite a few Umarex pistols me thinks Umarex are getting too greedy and more about profit than quality. based on the accuracy of the Gen 4 and nasty trigger on the pellet version im more than happy with the Gen 3. Pound for pound in my opinion the KWC G17C is an all round better pistol in quality, accuracy and power of any of the Glocks . cheers.
Got my pellet G17gen3 this last Friday. It shot up-right off aimpoint (approx 3x3cm), but had a good blowback and shot hard. That one though might be a bit harder to align the barrel towards centerpoint than these field strippable BB pistols. No worries if it shoots a bit low in the video.. My G17gen4 BB pistol was also coming in the same day I got my gen3 pellet Glock - but I missed just barely the UPS home delivery person.. So I have to spend the whole looong weekend for the 2nd delivery attempt on Monday.. ouch..
rick carey they are not in the US at all yet. They have only been released in european countries for like a few months. Idk wth lonespartan is looking at
Love your reviews and look forward to watching them all on ANY type of gun that you review. When purchasing one of these is it classed as an airsoft gun and subsequently painted Day-Glo colours by the retailer or am I being naive or stupid or both, this would be my first BB I'm usually a pcp rifle guy.
