@@napalmstickylikeglue it's because they don't have to. They are still riding on their history and name. They're nowhere near the top of the market anymore (in terms of innovation, cutting edge, features, and they're matched in reliability) and haven't been in some time.
@@jamesR1990 No need to over-innovate when all your competitors have been playing catch-up for 3 decades and are still failing to unseat them on sales by a massive margin. The Glock does the job. That's why. I remember just about every manufacturer scoffing at Glock in 1986 and stating they would never build a polymer handgun. 😂
I don't want a fully cocked striker pointing at my dick all day. The original Glock safe action system is half the reason why I still run them over the competition.
@@Workingonnit right?! Like the 47 is already $700 OTD like damn I might as well buy a shadow systems mr920 or xr920 elite at this point....you get way more out the box for a couple hundred more lol! Glock has reached the point where they are now being out-glocked by their own platform
yeah most companies include a nice trigger as a selling point... of course not Glock tho.... they make you pay extra for anything other than the most basic pistol ever.... but I do like them after a few hundred dollars has been put into them lol
Coley literally promoted the Timeny design, gushed all over it on RU-vid in promotional stuff and had a video of how to install it as well under their brand. I say all that to say I doubt it. LoL
Pfft. Mossberg's improvements on the 940 were basically stolen from the OR3GUN kit that was used to improve the 930 and the piston was from SBE Precision. None of these companies will ever admit to corporate espionage.
dont really think they have too it’s not like people who buy do their research are gonna think $50 ish of savings is better than an actual flat face trigger, sub 3lb pull weight, timneys amazing customer service(each trigger ships with a tootsie pop), and also timneys is made of quality materials
What's worse is that Coley himself literally did a video and I guess was sponsored by the trigger "that would take him to a world championship" and it's what it looks like this design was based off of...but this is cheaper and made by his business daddy Glock
Personally, I like that Glock is half cocked. I know I’m being overly safe, but I like the idea that if all else fails the striker doesn’t have enough force to set off a primer. With that said, I can see a lot of people liking this. EDIT: When I said "all else fails" that includes firing pin blocks. I posted something longer in comments but: tldr just because I have seat belts doesn’t mean I don’t want air bags.
Glocks, and indeed most pistols these days, have firing pin blocks. Even if the striker were to prematurely release, there’s no way it could hit a primer unless the trigger is being pulled.
Sometimes randomly in the middle of the day, I'll think, "I have a loaded 9mm with a cocked striker pointed directly at my dick right now" and I start feeling uneasy until I forget about it again.
So this is a Timney Alpha trigger? I have a Timney Alpha in a G17L, It has a 2lb 3oz trigger with 2mm of total travel, 1mm reset, and all the safeties work. You have to bend in the slide rails with a hammer to get the lockup tight enough for a trigger like that. I also had to change the cam profile on the trigger bar that actuated the safety plunger, add an overtravel set screw, and shave off some of the trigger safety tab to eliminate unnecessary take up.
You were the chosen one glock! It was said that you would destroy the single action striker fireds, not join them! Bring balance to the market, not leave it in drop unsafety!
It’s drop safe though. If you watch Johnny Glocks video he shows the details of the trigger components. There is a crossbar and hook that make it pretty drop safe.
It’s basically the same as the Timney Alpha Glock trigger, by far the best aftermarket trigger in terms of drop safety. Feels great and they’re cheaper than a lot of other triggers
Glock. The company that could presumably give you a decent trigger but instead will make you pay extra for it. Looks like it functions a lot like another popular aftermarket trigger for Glocks (Timney) that is available for more than just Gen5’s but I’d like to see them compared.
Timney is also not drop safe as far as I know. I don't mean to smear them but there's some video on RU-vid where it fails a drop safe test but who knows maybe it was a defect or a bad test or improperly installed or something. Either way, it does appear to be similar. I'm quite interested to try it so I just ordered one for my G19 MOS.
Have installed a number of these already. They are excellent. Pretty much a refined and more reliable version of the Timney trigger with none of the base safety features removed. I have my own Performance Trigger on the way now, am going to add the Johnny Glocks VEX trigger shoe which is now certified by him for this trigger system.
@@762x69 Removes the drop ledge. Fully cocked striker could be released easily if dropped. The firing pin would be caught by the safety plunger (unless that failed, which does happen). You’d have a dead trigger at the least and a bang at the worst.
As a owner of many Glocks it about time they do something with triggers. But the gen 5 triggers are decent to begin with. the previous gens are what really need this trigger. Trigger and sights come on Glock get it together.
use to if you dropped your Glock and all the safeties didn't work, it still wouldn't go bang because the striker wasn't pulled back far enough, but with this new system and the striker face being all the way back and sitting on the sear holder that allows the striker enough force to set off a round if you dropped it..(& the 3 internal safeties happened to not work) highly unlikely, but was just pointing that out about that new design.
You can keep your mush trigger. Glock isn't taking them away. They're just finally giving people that hate the trigger to Hell a factory option after almost 40 years of people complaining about it (and all of their competitors eating their lunch by making guns with better triggers out the gate).
Has anyone actually ever tested that? I thought this too until a few weeks ago when I tested a P320 on its half cock position (secondary sear surface safety) and it still detonated a primer (cock it, drop the sear with a pick, and then half cock the slide). I know that’s a different gun, but I just mention it as a comparison. Maybe the spring tension and distance are different enough in a Glock not to detonate a primer, but my test put doubt in my mind about that claim for any striker pistol.
@@riflemanm16a2 good point. Glock doesn't officially advertise the partially pulled firing pin as part of its Safe Action system. They only mention the trigger bar preventing the firing pin from moving forward. However, if the partially cocked firing pin is still able to set off a round, it brings the question why they would make it that way in the first place, instead of the way the new trigger works. Maybe to artificially make the trigger pull heavier?
Doubt it. They want you to buy their newest model, and they know Glocktards will do it. How else are they going to stay in business? But yes, I'd like to have one for my Gen 3. It's just not going to happen.
@@Edmondson_Avenue Technically it's Glock, can't claim stolen if it only fits a Glock. Timney should probably build his own gun like PSA and Springfield Armory.
@@OlDirtyBandit, so what has Glock done lately that others havent already? I mean a performance trigger, really? Finally!? Thoes have been available for Glocks for quite a while now and I doubt Glocks will be better. Even the 1911 market has seen updates since your two world wars 🤣
@@jordanyang3066 and Coley is all over it's promotion. "They listened to everything I wanted and what feel I'm looking for. It's gonna take me to the world champtionship." LoL
I like that Glock triggers aren’t fully cocked because I carry appendix. Most Glock users don’t want a fully cocked striker because the only thing keeping the gun from going off is the dongle trigger safety.
So true. I bought the 19x after having a gen 3 19 for 20 years. I absolutely hate the Glock factory triggers. Maybe if you have fingers that crack walnuts you’d like it, but anyone with medium sized hands that have a semblance of nuance hates them. Looking forward to spending the 99.99 for a 3.5 pound trigger pull and Glock reliability to boot.
commence the new wave of glock legs, and with appendix carry becoming popular, glock crotches too. personally i'll be running my m&p shield plus or 2.0 compact 3.6 with a thumb safety, THANKS
What people don't understand is with Glocks using the gun actually makes the trigger better over time. I have a gen 4 from 6 years ago and it's better than the gen 5 trigger I have that's got no rounds down the pipe but a lot of dryfire
For my G26 carried in appendix this is a big "NOPE" as the striker being held at "half" was my big safety concern. But on a range dedicated Glock, an absolute upgrade.
that's actually decent price, most Instagram famous companies and people are selling triggers that you can make for under 80 bucks for $150-$250 which is stupid, more than a geiselle AR trigger lol
@@joe-redacted That's really the only way this makes sense to me. A competition trigger for people who think that OEM is somehow always better than aftermarket.
Too little too late I think. They'll need to do this to compete in their own created market: 1. Performance trigger 2. MOS or Optics cut 3. IRON sights made of IRON 4. Tad bit slimmer. All of these should come standard at regular MSRP to compete with SIG, CZ, Smith & Wesson, and the clones of their own product.
Maybe they could release a model with manual safety. I know the idea is considered heresy by hardcore Glock fans but a lot of new owners ended up returning or just avoiding Glock because of it. They already did all the R&D for the MHS trial.
I don't think they can slim down the guns without new mags which would be extremely controversial. I think all they can do is expand the slim line (which is what they should do). Agree on all the others.
@@WaterZer0 the G48 _is_ the slimline 19 equivalent. Not sure what the demand would be for an even longer version. Guess they could stand to add a rail to the bottom though.
I am impressed. I mean that rep said with a straight face without laughing how great their late to the game trigger is. He should have said this is the new trigger we are putting into Glocks from the factory. Alas, we have to add another hundred with the new site order we always have to do with Glocks.
Any issues with trigger reseting slower after large round counts? Just got it, about 500 rds through. Seems to only happen at 200+ rounds in one sitting, after cleaning it fixes it, love the trigger just hoping it breaks in well and removes that issue. I did confirm I got the newest version. Zero other issues, can shoot 5 inch groups unsupported at 25 yards a lot more consistently which im exceeding happy with lol. It feels gritty and after cleaning works perfectly, so appears to just be carbon build up. I did oil per exact manual instructions.
Given the widespread use of Glocks outside of the competition community, is this safe though? For $99 anyone can walk around with effectively a 1911 like trigger in Condition Zero. Good news but perhaps also bad news I'd say.
@@klausb1758 Other striker fired pistols also go dead when dropped or worse, sig you in the nuts. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to ask "Is it drop safe though" when we are talking about a fundamental redesign of the entire safe action system.
Wonder when will glock be coming out with the gen 6, when they will make a chassis gun, when they will be changing their grip angle (or at least offering a factory alternative) and when will they start making higher-capacity steel mags as an alternative to the polymer mags.
Why steel mags? Not like the capacity would change. Plus the fact that there’s a bajillion Gen 3-5 mags out in stores for $20-$35 bucks a pop, changing mag designs would be rather pointless. Besides, even if Glock did all of that, people would still bitch and moan saying “LoL SmItH aNd WeSsOn DiD iT wAy EaRLieR!” Or “what does this do that my M&P, PDP, PPQ, Canik, Sig, etc doesn’t do?”
Fully cocked striker? Isn't that what is causing Sig safety problems with guns " just going off " without being dropped? I think I'll stick with the standard gen 5 trigger that doesn't fully cock the striker.
I’m actually genuinely curious about the glock performance trigger and if it runs exactly how it’s intended for then maybe one day not anytime soon if it works compatibility wise then maybe I’ll drop one into my shadow systems MR920 Elite
For a defensive gun, I wouldn’t run this trigger. A stock Glock trigger is already decent and very fast, and gives you the extra safety of the half-cocked striker.
Love that Glock is doing this! I hope they make a version for the all Gen 3's for all of us in the People's Republic of California. Huge market anywhere but on the coast here! Happy to see you CAN make videos without the multiple F-bombs dropped like a teenager.
Just fyi, I'm nearly 100% certain that this will work in a 9mm gen 3 or 4 glock. They have to say gen 5 only the same way that they have to say that only a glock armorer should install it. I know from personal experience that the current gen 5 trigger works fine in gen 4 glocks (9mm only). I have shot thousands of rounds with a gen 4 slide (with a gen 5 backplate) on a gen 5 frame with the factory trigger with no issues. I have also put a gen 5 trigger into a gen 4 frame and shot a couple of magazines worth of ammo with no issues (although I also tried a gen 5 trigger in a .40 cal glock 23 and it caused a malfunction every time it fired). I have also used gen 3 triggers in gen 4 frames for years. The only difference is the bump that they added to the side of the gen 4 trigger bar (and later removed on the gen 5 trigger). I see no reason that this wouldn't work in gen 3 or 4 guns.
Wait, so with this trigger, are they saying the previous trigger isn't perfect? So there is no Block perfection, or will it be perfect now with this new trigger?
Cool so they copied what Timney did with the Alpha Competition Glock trigger... And more similar to how the M&P 2.0 actuates their sear. Underwhelming and absolutely par for the course with Glock.
You can buy them with night sights if you want right out of the box. They're not too bad but really id recommend some nice fiber optic sights and a good flashlight. Or alternatively id recommend an RMR or other dot.
This seems interesting because it's not just gimmicks with the connector/engagement. I'd definitely want an aluminum shoe for $99 though, I am sure you could put on a different shoe.
@@evilblackcat6357 that is a great point. It’s nice to see Glock finally do this, but yes will it be a cash grab or will it be affordable… guess we will see.
You didn't pay attention at all did you? This is completely different. This is much closer to something like a Timney Glock trigger(except with all the safety features in tact) at least on paper. Or something more like a Walther trigger with a precocked striker. You can be a smartass but this is a bigger deal than you make it sound like.
@@beardly0121 sure I did. This might captivate the Glock fanboys but it doesn't matter to the rest of us. At the end of the day, the goal is to have a better trigger pull. I identified a way that I've had a better trigger pull for my Glocks...which is not only cheaper, but has been in existence for a decade. By the way, Timney triggers do not bypass the passive safeties.... Pop-Tart. 😏
nice review guys, cheers from the philippines .. i understand this is for gen5 glocks, just wanna ask if i can install this trigger on my gen4 g17 by just replacing the slide cover with one designed for gen5? thanks
I guess if you call 6 = 7 lbs. trigger pull perfection. None of my Glocks broke 6 lbs. or under. I won't tell of the very long pretravel, super mush break and the long reset. I refused to even go to the range with them until I put the Timney Alpha Com. triggers in all of them.
Perfection🤭 Edit: Glock makes great pistols and everybody should have one simply for the fact it's reliable. I like to bust their chops because I'm a CZ Fanboy, but I'm not sporting an awesome beard and a flannel shirt with skinny jeans. I simply prefer them because they're much better looking. I'm also waiting to get my hands on an Arex Zero 2, thanks to the video from Polenar Tactical. ✌️😎🇺🇸🇸🇮🍻
I own a Glock because it's simple, reliable, I won't get pissed off if I drop it or mark it up, I don't have to be super OCD/obsessed with keeping it clean, and I won't care if it ends up in an evidence locker should I ever have to use it because I can easily go buy another one. That's why everyone should have one. Keep your pretty and collectible guns pretty and collectible.
@@stevem4783 I agree with you completely. That said, if I am carrying a CZ or an Arex, I'm not worried about it getting scuffed-up either. Now if my sexy Shadow 2 gets dust on it, I will probably stroke out 🤪
@@stevem4783 I agree. I know many in the gun community don't feel the same way, but I also like Glocks because of the "cool factor". I know I know many people here think it's ugly, basic, and outdated, but I grew up in an era where there were Glocks in all the movies, tv shows, video games, and MVs. All the cops I saw had them too. I guess it would be like the Beretta 92 or Sig P226 for all the 80s/90s kids who grew up with those action movies and shows.
Brought to you by the people who think "brick" is an ergonomic goal, "plastic" is for sights, and "innovation" is somehow a four letter word best avoided in public. I can hardly wait to keep waiting on this one.
Woww, crazy innovation from Glock... I'm getting goosebumps 😒It's almost as if Glock has taken that F U attitude from H&K and made it their Austrian own.... But then this is coming from someone who owns muliple Glocks, has a G47 on order from my LGS, and who is a certified HK fanboy with a P2000, P30, HK45CT, MK23, Multiple USPs, multiple VP9s, and so on. I guess I'm basically a firearms masochist.... Or maybe I just like something to bitch about because I'm a millennial... I'm sure my latina therapist will tell me on Wednesday after some hot candle wax and my continuous screams of "Wolfie!"
Perhaps its good that Glock makes only minor changes though. Why I would take a Glock over any other striker-fired platform is precisely because of its track record and the long span of its widespread use during which issues have had the chance to get worked out. A significant modification could very well mean a reset of that track record: reliability and innovation oftentimes work against each other.
This design basically eliminates the Glock half cocked striker safety. I don’t see how this is innovative other than for competition it’s a step backwards in terms of the original Glock design and safety.
I carry a Glock 19 and I have a Glock 45 for my combat pistol. That being said the fact that Glock and this guy are so happy about this trigger being released in 2023 that Glock owners have to pay 100 dollars for to put a decent trigger in an otherwise good handgun pissed me off for some reason. I’m pissed because it should have been done a long time ago. It’s just just pure laziness and Glocks FU attitude thinking they could just put out the same gun for the past 30 plus years. The only reason they are doing it now is because of the competition in the polymer handgun market. I’m a Glock guy but don’t act like it’s something ground breaking. SMH
I just think it's laughable they think this is going to be a good seller. Of course you'll have your die-hard fanboys who purchase it but it's going to be a flop. It'll likely end up in the Gen 6 series.
@@napalmstickylikeglue I don't think there's a question it's going to sell insanely well. Whether it's worth it or not is completely subjective, but if you think they're not gonna fly with the amount of Glocks (and Glock fanboys) out there I don't know what to tell you.
I wonder if it’s possible to install the G44 ejector into the Trigger housing of the performance trigger. Having a smoother and lighter trigger pull might be quite practical when using the G44 for target shooting.
So now the striker is fully cooked and the trigger is just releasing the sear? One of the safety features I liked about the Glock was that the striker wasn't fully cocked until the trigger was fully pressed. Definitely wouldn't put it on my carry but jt seems like a great upgrade for competition.
Timney tried that and its reliability was spotty. I gave up on trying to make mine work and went back to stock. Hopefully this Glock trigger is better.
