30 years of carrying and shooting Glocks as my service weapon. 20 years as FBI Firearms Instructor. Have shot around 50,000 rounds in 9mm, .40 S&W, and 10mm. I have never seen or heard of a catastrophic Glock failure that was not an ammunition issue. The fact is if you have an over pressure round, the manufacturer of the firearm is irrelevant.
It's almost always ones in .40 S&W due to the cartridge's bullet setback issue. The reason you almost never see it at the range is because most people trade out their expensive carry ammo (which is rechambered frequently) for new FMJ. The problem is only a tiny bit of setback for .40 S&W can double the pressure. So there's your kaboom. It's made worse by the poorly supported case head of factory Glock barrels, which encourages a blowout from excessive pressure, and the lack of a safety which leads to more clearing and rechambering of carry ammo. Glocks are good guns, but .40 S&W is best avoided regardless of which brand of gun you choose. Both 9mm and .45 ACP have improved with +P to meet or exceed it, but the setback issue means .40 S&W has no real safety margin so you can't really +P it safely; a few niche manufacturers do make .40 S&W +P, but it's really inadvisable and there's a reason why no major manufactures do it.
I had a glock 27 blow up in the late 90s. Was factory federal ammo. Blew out the extractor, broke the mag release and cracked the frame. Glock replaced the gun without question. The problem? Unsupported feed ramp on the barrel. They changed to a supported chamber soon after. So yes, it has happened, and was the manufacturers fault.
@@WardenWolf 40sw being "a high pressure round" is a lie. SAMMI specs are 35k max, same as 9x19, and setback is just as much a risk in 9mm, because it's caused by human error. People were trying to fire hot or brass fatigued reloads. The case capacity of 40sw brought Darwin awards to many reloaders with room temperature IQ's 9mm+p is max 38,500psi. So are you trying to say that a higher pressure round is safer than a lower pressure round, because the bullet diameter is smaller???? There was an argument with Glock's early chambers, but still, same pressure as 9mm, same unsupported chamber.
Had Glocks for over 30 years, never had a malfunction in either my gen 3 19 or 22. My winter edc is a 19x with over 9,000 rounds through it with no malfunctions. This is the first time I have ever heard of these problems.
@@Rubeless, Even with multiple exploded Klunks pictures you still refuse to deal w reality. You Klunk girls are all the same. REALITY has no place in your world.
Carried a Glock as a duty weapon since 1997, until I retired in 2014. I was a District Firearms Instructor for awhile and still carry a Glock 27 most days, unless I am carrying a J-frame. Never seen or heard of a Glock blowing up except a few legends on the internet. Sounds like some ammo issues like double loading.
This is one reason why I hate cheap poorly made ammo and don’t like changing anything on my pistols. Something happens and you know they are going to say you should have never altered their weapon.🤷♂️ But I don’t care what brand you have when you’re dealing with metal and polymers together under stress with combustion, things can happen. no matter how much they stress test any design there’s always unknown variables that could be catastrophic. And even if most are user error or poor reloads it’s just not impossible when you’re triggering a small explosion in your hands.😂🤷♂️
I bet you 90% of those things were ammo malfunctions. I never waste money on the cheap s*** cuz I don't want to do this to my beautiful Glock that I spent so much money on.
2021-2022 when I was an RSO at a range we started seeing this with various rifles and pistols. We were thinking it was the ammo because at the same time there were many fail to fire and squib issues. If I recall correctly the issue was with imported ammo.
PLEASE READ!!!!I’m guessing squibs and a follow up shot. If your life isn’t in danger and you hear a CLICK as if it was a dry fire. STOP. Check the barrel. I purposely hand loaded one squib. Zero powder. Pulled trigger at range and the round made it one inch into the barrel and stopped. I wanted to know what a squib really was. Now I know.
@@mixedmarksman5873 Yeah it's a choice between a catastrophic failure costing you fingers or just having burns on your hands. The partially unsupported barrel however does mean it needs quality ammo. As someone who works in a ammo plant when it comes to ammo quality all I can say is you quite literally get what you pay for. Bulk box value pack is bulk box for a reason, premium is premium for a reason. In the event of a squib however a metal frame will literally remove digits from your hand when it explodes, a polymer will give you severe burns but won't literally cut your fingers off.
@@slimjim7411 HK’s USP’s are metal. HK USP’s shoot with a squibbed barrel perfectly fine. You get what you pay for. Glocks are junk! So are the modern Sig’s.
@@saltyguerrillaWhat about modern SIG makes of older designs? I have a barely used Legion P220 in .45 ACP. I wonder if Underwood +P would work there. And I wonder if Wolff recoil spring would be a good idea?
I've been a gunsmith for 40 years, a police officer for 38 years, firearms instructor, rangemaster, competitive shooter, you name it. I've had several Glocks, and been to every school Glock offers for armorers and LE. In all of the Glocks I've owned I've only ever had one with an issue. It was a G41, .45 ACP. Stone stock shooting primarily Winchester ammunition. My first malfunction looked exactly like what you showed, the unsupported rear of the case blew out and down the feed ramp, blowing the mag apart and splitting the mag release, blowing each half out its respective side. No damage to me other than my hand stung like hell for a couple of days. The second malfunction happened during an advance instructor school, on day one. It would take pages and posting pictures of the weapon to explain what happened, but it was not the typical catastrophic malfunction but it did take the weapon out of service. Myself and the head instructor/rangemaster, (also a Glock factory certified armorer) were finally able to make the weapon serviceable and figure out what had happened after about 10 minutes. However, it was his range so he banned the weapon until it went back to Glock. I finished the course, 5,000 rounds in 5 days, with a SIG 1911 and never had one hiccup out of it. Glock returned the 41 to me, still damaged, stating "No issues found". I had send the round in, lots of pictures, and they basically said there was nothing wrong with it. I sold every Glock I had (including the 41) after that, and discourage my trainees from carrying them.
I’m a Ruger fan myself. Not a Glock fan. But Glocks are still among the best you can buy. I personally don’t believe the gun is the problem. She usually overcharged over pressured ammo that blows up most guns. Because every gun manufacturer has guns that explode on them. I’ve seen that.
One thing we have noticed over the past few years, is that a lot of the ammunition is faultier than it used to be coming from the factory. I have opened a couple of boxes of ammo where the brass had defects in it, and they were not remans. What I have read in several articles was that when the shortage happened, the factories started cutting corners to try to get more quantity out. I have heard stories of regular rounds being overloaded at the factory, and of course when you buy something that is already overloaded and hot (+P or +P+), you are technically at the mercy of what they say is OK. Most polymer handguns are not OK with +P+, and even a lot of +P really varies. Long story short, I'm not trying to defend or accuse any brand, I'm just saying that there has been a lot of ammunition issues that are known for the past three or four years, and particularly if you are shooting warmer ammo, inspect every single round you put in it just to eliminate what you can. Any pistol will blow up if the round is too hot - I have even seen cracked and exploded 1911's.
Oh Jeeze I thought it was only me, even with the premiums I get failure to fire with at least 1 round in every box so far. Primer is struck but no bang. Every other round works as it should.
10+ yesrs ago, I experienced a "high pressure" event. The indoor range required you to shoot the ammo that they had available. It was aluminum cased. My Gen3 G20 didn't come apart but the magazine did fly out of the grip. Fun times.
My experience has showed me that Glocks don't like aluminum cases, generally. Aluminum doesn't stretch and rebound like brass, and Glocks being generously spec'd as they are are prone to getting split cases with aluminum even if all other factors are normal. Additionally, any range requiring you to use "their" ammo are jackasses. Unless they're personally guaranteeing every single round and are providing written documentation that they'll reimburse you for property and medical costs in the event of failure (which I highly doubt), I'd avoid them without exception.
I've run some steel case but aluminum case never, no way. Aluminum will gall worse than lead and hardens with wear. And that's on top of the other concerns. No way.
@@derrickanthony4ammo labeled as +p is higher pressure generally only found on expensive “self defense” ammo but if you are buying the cheap target and hollow points you are generally good. Personally I have never had an issue with +p ammo but you have to make the risk assessment for yourself. If you are still concerned you should watch some videos on how to read your brass for signs of issues.
Beat it use standard pressure ammo . Standard pressure ammo on 10mil is basically 40sw . Unless you use hot underwood Buffalo bore ext 10mil sucks . So why even by the glock 20 .
One thing I noticed is after the pandemic is ammo quality has gone way down hill in my experience. Ammo seems dirtier, overall QC issues, I’ve had random overpressured/underpressured rounds, blown primers, rims ripped off, much more brass particles littered throughout my guns etc. I’ve never had all these issues before the pandemic (other than PMC putting a 300BLK round in a box of 556, never bought PMC ever again). I think this is a ammo manufacturer issue.
I agree. 2 boxes of different Magtech during the pandemic that either had extremely heavy primers or squib loads (yes, 2 squib loads in 1 box). Still have that box. Giant sharpie letters it says *SQUIB*
I have an HK usp 40. Last month at the range I fired 3 rounds and then the 4th round failed to cycle . I was using wolf ammo. Took it ho,me cleaned . Next week I took it back to the range and fired 50 rounds of Winchester. Loaded up the wolf rounds and same issue
Finding a 300 BLK in a box of 5.56 would be highly disturbing to me. I found a round in the middle of one of my PMAGS once where the projectile was shoved almost completely down into the casing, which was also badly crimped at the neck. Had just decided randomly to check my ammo that day before going to the range. Now I do so religiously when loading up any of my mags
I think it's an under rated gun. And the 9mm is the same frame. So if it can stand 10k of 10mm, it's good enough for me. Zero malfunctions, ever, other than last round hold open, in 5k rounds. Besides that, it just points and shoots better than a Glock.
I did Gunsmithing and Law Enforcment Armorers work for a big portion of my life. I worked part time in Gun Shops and was a Firearms Instructor. Failures like the one shown are not the Gun. It's ammo. There is such a rush to put out more ammo and specialized ammo today, that mistakes happen more frequently. I've seen numerous supposed "Gun Failures" where chambers are blown out, slides crack and raised off of frames, mags blown out. Generally all of those things didn't fail because of the gun. They failed because of an ultra light or double charge. I also find that it's usually the smaller, cheaply made ammo when the incident occurs, but it can also be a major manufacturer at times.
Recently sold my Sig Xten after getting it back from Sig after a malfunction. It would fire after racking the slide! So, after inserting a magazine, and racking the slide, it would automatically fire when it reached battery! Super dangerous firearm, in my opinion. I sent it back to Sig and they "fixed" it. But I still didn't trust it so I sold it.
Holy crap dude. That is dangerous. Yeah I wouldn't trust it either. .. I never understood how people appendix carry and don't feel uncomfortable. I can never be ok with anything aiming at my junk. Even with a pistol I trust. Nope.
It's always been my view that most catastrophic failure start with the ammunition that's being used. Another is aftermarket barrels that are not up to Sami specs. And the most basic of all periodically inspecting your firearms for any concerns that could lead to a catastrophic failure.
You're spot on with regards to over-juiced ammo...my G23 had a kaboom about four months ago. Because I upgraded my barrel to a Compass Lake barrel, the only thing I had to replace was the extractor.
Your G23 had a kaboom? With a factory barrel or aftermarket barrel? Interested..I carry a G23 with a oem 32 barrel! ZERO problems 💪 🏆that 357sig barrel is the STRONGEST with the most supported chamber that Glock makes for obvious reasons
@@kevinrichardson8859 Aftermarket barrel, Compass Lake SS (black nitride). Their barrels have thicker chamber walls than Glock OEM barrels...the one that experienced the kaboom has 10K+ rounds through it and is still very accurate. When I first got hooked on the G23 as my carry, a friend of mine suggested upgrading the barrel due to the .40's high pressure...sage advice if you ask me.
Another issue I’ve noticed with Glocks is the polygonal rifling. Some folks buy a new Glock, fire hundreds of cast lead bullets through the gun, not realizing the excessive leading to the barrel and therefore increasing chamber pressures over time. Possibly causing some of these catastrophic failures.
Back in my New Zealand Army days we used the Browning Hi-Power and then Sig Sauer 226 (this was a few years back). I was never aware of any major malfunctions with either platform. Let alone blowing up. Mind you, some of the modern ammunition is quite powerful so might be pushing the boundaries in that department 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
You have it backwards with the ammo. Yeah bullet tech has been improved, but saami spec has actually been watered down and normal ammo is not near as hot as it used to be.
I’ve been considering the hi power for years but it seems the newer models have issues.I bought an M9 but my wife liked it so much she confiscated it 😂 . I’m thinking about looking for an older model Hi power but for now I’m back to my Ruger .357 I’ve owned since the 80s .
As a reloader for 40+ years I can say that a lot of the issues are from Glocks unsupported chamber. You can pour 1000 pieces of fired brass on the table and I can pick out the ones fired in a Glock. I always throw away Glock fired brass for safety reasons. Measurements show a slight bulge at the end that was unsupported. I have no personal feelings one way or another about Glock, just refuse to use any brass fired in a Glock.
I use a kimber 1911 45acp and for high pressure cartridges I use the ruger super blackhawk. I used to run all the others but I just like steel and wood.
The proliferation of cheapo reloaded ammo by less than careful shops is the main factor here. Overused brass on its last reload is always weak, and that can cause some major issues.
My west German p228 is still going strong. Only thing broken it the nite sights. The glow is gone unless in a completely dark basement. Love the fact it’s not engrave with all the warning notifications all the new guns have
I have a German made 228 from 90s fired alot through it ,I minor miss bad round primer did not fire. This is an extremely accurate pistol from first shot. I have many other pistols of different manufacturers none has been as accurate nor as easy to shot. 5 years ago I replaced lighted sights cost 125.00. After replacement shoots just as accurate. I just use quality ammunition . I also run 9 rounds in 10 and 12 in 13
For what it's worth, this is one small reason why I like 45 auto. Low chamber pressure, big bore, good penetration with the right ammo. I think the specs on 10mm hot loads are close to double the pressure of a 45 auto, so I am content with a reliable, low pressure big bore projectile in a polymer gun. And with a Glock 41 I get a lightweight gun, and I get 13 rounds. Yes, I have put a few +p Buffalo Bore rounds through my Glock 41 (my fishing carry preference), and yes I admire the 10mm, but.....if I wanted a super hot load for bear protection, I'd probably carry a revolver. But thats just me.
A 45 ac loaded with Winchester White box 230 fmj,or Winchester 230 hollow points. For people use hollow point, for bear use fmj when I still lived in Alaska a person killed a brown bear trying to get in his house with a 1911 45. That is good enough for me
Retired LE. About 1995 I switched to a Glock 19. I have put 25,000 rounds through it with maybe 20 malfunctions, all either reloads or Norinco ammo that failed to fire the first time but fired the second time. For a few years my department issued us +P's and later +P+'s. Later I learned that Glock said +P was a no no. A year or so ago my slide broke at the front where there wasn't much metal, around the recoil spring guide rod. Glock gave me a new slide with all new components for FREE. Initially, as a cop we had to carry it with the 8 pound trigger. I have since replaced it with a 4-5 pound. My opinion, the worse feature is the trigger break. That said, I think the Glock 19 is the best combat handgun in the world.
Agree on Glock 19 being amongst the most simple and reliable combat 9mm in the world...Glock has always stated Glocks are rated for +p...its a natural approved firearm...+p+ may not be as there is no ceiling
All ammo use specs are printed in plain English in the owner's manual. People usually throw the manual out with the plastic wrapping and go their own way and pay the price. Always read the owner's manual.
I’m not buying all the internet bs all u ever dam hear Glock the best sig the best stuff ,but we all know Glock is 😂 but to be honest U just never know what these people are doing I’ve seen some crazy shit at ranges one guy was aiming well wind blow hard that day so a stack of other targets blew over his barrel I mean like 10-15 in a pack well he still pulled the trigger blowing dam pApper targets everywhere at point blank range not enough to blew up nothing just saying real shooter would have stopped and removed the dam targets, this idiot couldn’t see shit and still shot making whole range laugh at how dumb he was
I have had 12 Glocks, in 3 calibers (9, 10, and .45), and I guess I've been fortunate, I've never had any problems with them (I have had problems with Sig and S&W, but never Glock or Springfield). But anyway, with Glocks, I've never had any malfunctions with OEM parts (although I have had the occasional issue with aftermarket parts. Well no duh, right?). So I don't know. I will say one thing, some of the pictures that you showed have been floating around for years. I question whether there's some new set of problems cropping up with manufacturing, or whether we're just seeing more old stuff get rehashed because of social media?
As a police department armorer (Glock Master Armorer), I can testify that Glocks have plenty of problems, just like H&K, SIG, and everyone else who makes a mechanical item. Primarily, flexing trigger bars, broken firing pin, slide stop springs, cracked chambers, broken slide rails, and a less-than-supported chamber resulting in case web blowouts (not unique to Glock). My problem with Glock is that they will not admit it to the public but instead will quietly advise police agencies of product "updates" and "upgrades". And their are other handguns much easier to teach fight skills with than Glocks. The channel host leans to European makers and misses the more reliable and fight-worthy Americans handguns. I tend to focus on whatever is in my hands when needed instead of pet firearms. But my career is fighting not shooting.
Sell them quick,and buy yourself a Colt 1911 in 45acp. You will not regret it. Lol I love mine I own a WW2 veteran and a new Colt 1911. I would charge the gates of hell with mine.
Once you add up ammo,aftermarket parts,bad armorers, etc, it's amazing folks aren't killed. To simply say Glocks are horrible is showing one's total ignorance. After selling millions, accidents are going to happen. After 35 years of training,all kinds of competitions,armorer, carrying O.D. for 27years I have seen the 2 times a Glock broke up was from AMMO.
Several years ago when I bought my Glock 20 gen 4, I immediately replaced the factory barrel with a KKM barrel at the suggestion of several people in the Glock Facebook group I'm in.
@DanccnRick80 Zero issues. I got the longer 6 inch, though. As for ammo, I also steer absolutely clear of the extra spicy bubba fudd reload ammo. Firstly and foremost, I have 20/20 vision, and I like to keep it that way by not losing an eyeball or two. Secondly, on both hands, I have all ten of my digits intact, and I want to keep it that way. Some people who know me would say I have a higher sense of adventure. However, my sense of adventure doesn't go high enough to be messing around with gun show zip-loc baggy ammo.
Note, 2017 I bought a NIB Glock grey gen 4 20 10mm. I used it for about 2yr. My model had factory grey Cerakote, slide-frame. The 10mm shot well, no problems. 0 misfires. I got a stainless Storm Lake .40 barrel to save on ammunition costs. The pistol would jam maybe 1-2 .40 factory FMJ out of each 150rd. For defense, I'd use 155gr 10mm XTP.
@DavidLLambertmobile The 10mm Glock will shoot .40 without the need for a barrel change. Lots of people have reported no issues doing it. You can research it and decide for yourself if you want to try that and see if it works better for you than the barrel change does. Not a good idea in a revolver in 10mm though.
I am old school. I stopped playing with plastic guns when I was 10. I am a 1911 fan through & through 3" 4" & 5" barrel love them all. Just ventured out and got me a SA-35, guess Im getting old. Browning is the man and master in my book. Fortunately I live in a very free state where the state gun is the 1911 :)
I prefer all steel guns myself. Like the old Ruger P 85s. The Glock is a fine gun. I’m a Ruger fan myself. But even all steel guns can blow up. If you put around in it that was overcharged at the factory. I’ve never been a big fan of polymer, anything on a gun. But the Glock is still a find a gun.
All my Glock pistols are Austrian manufactured and have never been fired using reloaded ammo.I have gen2 pistols from the late eighties and early nineties,gen 3 and gen 4 guns.I have never had any issues with any of them at all. They have never had any kind of stoppage or failure to feed period. I live pretty close to the Glock plant and have been stopping in there for years getting my guns inspected and checked every so often.I’ve fired them all a lot and they have plenty of life left and they’re not pampered.
This is my exact same experience. Zero issues, ever. I see all these issues and it's pretty obvious it's tampering with the firearms, poor maintenance, aftermarket ammo, etc.
People overcharge their ammunition and blowing up their guns is nothing new with any gun. Most manufacturers openly state they will not warranty any over charged ammunition failures.
When you mentioned the S&B Ammo it reminded me of an issue I had with a batch of S&B 6.5 Creedmoor 140 gr FMJ ammo a few years ago. It was on sale & I purchased 200 rounds of it. It looked great, no obvious signs anything was wrong, no bulges or anything. When I fired it I noticed my Savage 110 Tactical kicked like a mule! I thought WTF, I'd never had recoil like that from it before. I tried to get the case out of the chamber & it unlocked but the bolt would NOT slide back. I ended up having to get a rubber mallet & beat the bolt open. No split case or anything I could see. I tried another round, same thing. I called the distributor for S&B & they told me to send the rest of the cartridges back & they would test them. A few months later the manager sent me an email stating that the cartridges had the correct powder in them but the cases were not at thick as they should be? No. You just don't get that kind of recoil from a thin case wall. They were loaded HOT! I got my money back on them & just steer clear of S&B ammo these days.
Some people say they haven’t heard of any issues with Glock and sig sauer but that they use them. If you drive a Toyota and someone who had one criticizes the car about problems, Of course you will say that you never had those problems and it’s the best car you ever owned. There are millions of glocks and sigs out there so the probability of a handful of people having these problems is astronomical. However they do have problems you just didn’t encounter them with the ones you have.
I am completely green what do you mean by that? I know it's ammo choice but do you mean always go with the best high-powered high dollar ammo or stay away from the cheap stuff what do you mean. Any advice to help me not make up mistakes and waste money and time would be really helpful and appreciate it!
Reliability equals repeatedly. Many channels focus on accuracy at 100 yards or other things that, in my opinion, don't matter. Bottom line, God forbid you have to use your firearm. But if you do, it needs to fire, and your target should be within 15 feet or else the target is likely not a lethal threat. My first gun was a used Glock sheriff carry. It's still the most reliable firearm I have.
I just commented on your video couple weeks ago. Man, I would have considered myself a Glock fanboy for years, now I'm just a disappointed glock fan. I have had two to mess up now. I didn't really make a big deal with the first one because it was a second hand gun. This last one literally disintegrated where the slide and frame connect. Luckily, I wasn't injured at all not even a scratch. What bothers me the most is the fact they aren't going to fix it or replace it. They claim it was from too hot ammo but I only shoot basic factory ammo, nothing special. They refuse to do anything. I don't reload and know nothing about it bro.
@@3100fps federal red box with eagle. Federal American eagle 10mm, I believe and the sellers&bellot 10mm brand. Only brands of ammo I have to choose from locally at a decent price.
@@3100fps I have revolvers that shoot legitimate ammo that makes the 10mm feel like a toy and never have issues with those. I'm just really disappointed because I was wanting to get into 10mm because I've been told they are powerful for a semi auto. I just can't ever feel safe and secure with one again. I'm lucky to not have gotten hurt with the last gun breaking. It ripped my shirt to pieces around my wrist.
@@Wildwestwrangler I guess not for Glock! That's the only two brands and Glock said the damage happened because ammo was too powerful.if those are the weak loads and it's too powerful for glock, why make a 10mm
Have been instructing since the early 1990s... I've personally had two GlockBooms with a 19 and 24. Have been right behind shooters when a two 19s, a 23 and a 21 blew. One of my co-instructors 23 blew in his hands...some were handloads and some with factory ammo... All factory barrels. Three cracked the frames. One lost just the extractor. It isn't the barrel. With an empty gun, pull back the slide slightly and then pull the trigger...you will hear the striker "fire"... Try the same with a 1911...sound of silence. The disconnect on the Glock will let the gun fire when it slightly out of battery, as in not all locked up tight. In this unbalanced condition the slide comes back before the pressure has dropped just enough to cause a case web to blow. If the gun gets dirty, ammo is a little out of spec or anything else that causes the slide to not go completely into battery then one has the makings of a GlockBoom...
As a wise man once said “Glock is the Toyota Corolla of guns.” And that is about right, so when you drive them like a Toyota Supra things are going to go wrong.
I’m not a Glock fan myself but a Ruger fan. But you’re definitely wrong about what you think about Glocks, Glocks are top quality guns just like Ruger. Smith and Wesson. Beretta. Kimber. And others. Usually peoples bias toward guns. Is based on what they like the best.
5:00 brass strength shouldn't matter on a catastrophic failure(legit blown up gat). Chamber and bolt/slide/ect contain the forces of the pew. An unsupported portion and/or just the right brass weakness can blow out the mag and furniture possibly, but those alone won't blow out steel without some other significant issue.
I have been shooting Glocks since 1998. I am a 3 Gun IDPA Master and a Two Gun USPSA Master. I have seen two Glocks blow up. Both were the result of handload double charge. My Gen 3 Glock 35 has over 200,000 rounds through it with zero issues.
The CZ P-10c barrels have a much stronger built chamber and I doubt they would ever split. I don't know if their 45 calibur P10-F has the same great barrel design, but I'd love to have one to see if it did.
Almost always unsupported chambers. 98% 10mm and some 40 S and W. This has been known for decades. I submitted this 2 minutes into the video. Never seen this in 9mm with regular ammo.
My G42 runs just fine with Underwood Extreme Defenders & Underwood Hard Cast; both are +p. The 68gr Defender has a muzzle velocity of 1400fps with a muzzle energy of 296 and I've had no problems at all. Not bad for a little 12oz plastic frame pistol! Disclaimer: The .380ACP cartridge at 21,500 psi operates at a much lower pressure than the 9mm, so there is that, but Glock even makes a 10mm pistol, handling SAAMI pressures of 37,500, which is 2,500 psi more than the 9mm max with no large number of reported failures. Tell ya what: someone should go and shoot 1,000 rounds of Underwood 9mm +p+ thru a Glock 19, then have a gunsmith examine the gun, and then come back and report the outcome here. Just be ready to sell the family jewels for the case of Underwood - hah! (Actually, a person could make +P+ reloads for a cheap way of testing this, but then we're getting back into the problem of "did I overload past the factory +p+ rating, so the gun broke because of my mistake?") In the final analysis, IMO it comes down to "are you confident in your pistol, whatever the brand and design?" If so, then carry with confidence! If not, then do your research on all of them and pick the one you trust the most - if any. Good shooting! 🤠
I dunno, lots of the failures you described were from aftermarket barrels, hot ammo or faulty ammo. Kind of irresponsible to suggest Glock is responsible for a KKM barrel failure.
So what would happen if one of those catastrophic explosions happened with a metal framed gun? Would it cause metal shrapnel to come from the top into the face or would it contain the explosion better?
Saw a similar event with a S&W 669. It blew the grip panels off and pushed the follower out the bottom of the magazine. Case head blew out of a 9mm reload.
Every gun manufacturer has guns that blow up on them. I’m a Ruger fan myself. But generally when you have videos that condemn one gun over another. It’s usually because people are paid to push one gun over another. All guns explode at times. Sometimes it’s because of overcharged ammo. Or the maker of the video has their favorite gun. And they want to promote it over another.
Springfield makes amazing guns. I have never had a malfunction and have not heard of them blowing up however, I'm sure an over pressure round will blowup any firearm.
@@dispatchcenter1241Depends on the model. The one they import from Croatia are very good quality. The feed ramps come stepped and mirrored polished. All parts were free of burrs and finished very well.
I got a glock 20 for hiking in Glacier it was really the only good 10mm option 3-4 years ago and after reading about everything I got a KKM barrel for the hard lead rounds. But from everything I have seen it seems it relates to hot ammo, or lead fowling in the barrel with solid lead handloads. Anyways decided not to hand load even though I bought the dies. But also I think its best not to shoot the 220 grain hot stuff much and stick to 180 grain downpowered tuff for target. With all that said Glock likely has the vast market share of 10mm autos out there, so it makes sense statically you would see the most incidents with them regardless of cause.
Owned several Glocks since the mid-90's, 12+ years ago I got a new M&P, soon started replacing Glocks with M&P. Every pistol I own is OEM except sights. I have a few M&P's that have ran thousands of mostly steel case ammo between cleanings and they just keep going. I have never replaced a part on a M&P. The only pistol that completely stopped on me was a Gen 4 G19 with less than 400 rounds through it. Excess plastic on the striker spring cups bound up the trigger and completely stopped the pistol. I replaced the striker cups and sleeve, it ran fine. But a $0.02 plastic part completely stopped so-called "perfection"!
M&Ps are good guns. Glock is still a better choice. My opinion. Along with special ops, secret service, thousands of law enforcement agencies including the Feds. To each their own.
@@mikerobinson8734 - To many people, Glocks are the better choice. Years ago, it was obvious why agencies chose Glocks. But things have changed when other companies are building pistols just as reliable. Glock invented an awesome concept, now people are screaming S&W and others copied Glock. Sure, a lot of it is copied. But Armalite invented an awesome concept in the semi-auto platform. Once the patients expired other companies started using that concept and making it better. Decades later, don't hear many people talking about going to buy a Armalite of Colt AR.
I currently have 4 sig P226's, 2 9mm, 1 .40 S&W and 1 .357 Sig. love them. Have had 1 Glock 20SF, 1 Glock 21SF and 3 Glock 19's. No problems with the Glocks it is just when one practices with a Glock for serious encounters they are ruined for any other pistol due to their grip to barrel angle. BTW - Sig customer service has been outstanding.
@@opinionsvary bring whatever you’ve got little fella. I’ll put a Glock against any of it period. Thousands upon thousands of rounds of every description say you’re full of shit.
@@patrickgriffitt6551 I think you’re correct. The sole malfunction I’ve encountered was with a 19 in the hands of an inexperienced and nervous female. I’m certain limp wrist was the cause.
The 9mm G17, G19 and G26 have an excellent reputation for reliability and durability. I prefer +P ammo (about the same as NATO pressure ammo), not +P+ ammo. A 9mm Ruger LCR is a great backup weapon.
Nato pressure is 42500 psi..standard 9mm 35k +p is 38k and +p+ isn't regulated but about nato pressure. These, as I recall, were for SMG's only. Research what pressures you are actually running.
I put a Bar Sto Barrel in my Glock 40 10mm. Those barrels are super tough and use the finest materials for strength. I can shoot heavy lead bear loads with the cut rifling. It fits a bit tighter and it runs more chamber support than most. It runs 100 percent too! Buy a quality barrel if you go aftermarket, buy quality ammo, and watch for lead build up in any barrel. Keep them clean.
It wouldn't be a massive a deal breaker for me, if glock just took responsibility. The fact that Glock claims their materials and manufacturing are not the cause and can not be the cause just baffles my mind. I've spoken with a dozen company representatives and everyone said, Nope, it didn't fail because of us but because of me is what makes me so angry. Two of the company representatives have insinuated that I reloaded junk ammo and a third straight up said I was lying about shooting reloads... really pisses me off
@@timothyellis596 Haha, thats exactly how they respond too. Well, they didn't claim anything about the barrel obviously but a couple representatives did claim about the homemade ammo, so ridiculous! It's so crazy because I'm still a glock fan, just a disappointed one.
@@Atlasowl I have never shot any homemade ammo in any gun. I don't know anything about that stuff at all. I only shot federal and sellers & ballot ammo
@@kurtdavis7588 hmmmm damn that’s odd. I’ve heard of some issues lately with Winchester white box and federal as well recently. That sucks though man. It’d scare me shitless if my gun blew up in my hand
Genuinely, I would not own anything with a manufacture date that lies within the “supply shortage” era of 20’/23’ just because even in other industries I personally saw a decline in quality of products. Quality of raw materials lacked during this time as well as the quality of QA from humans during the same time. In 2021 I personally Installed 500+ DEFECTIVE smoke detectors that were recalled a year later meaning they were all produced in 20/21 and depending on the supplier, can sit on a shelf for a year so we had detectors bought late into 22’ and still had to swap them. Its insane, I have a pre lockdown tp9 sf elite, its wonderful. Every glock I owned made before 20’ was great. There are so many variables to such an issue as a barrel separation. Out of tolerances pistol, barrel or ammo or all combined from the lockdown era can cause different types of failures. Buy old or brand new 🍻
That D ring rupture is absolutely something ive always feared on a glock when I noticed you could see 10% of the combustion area of the cartridge unsupported. Its thin brass, hot powder or too great of a gap on the chamber/feed ramp. Why was the cartridge ever so unsupported? Well they probably coulda added 1/16” to the chamber but that might have cost them a contract based on size. I notice this is present on more than a few pistols all boasting similar dimensions. They competed with eachother and cost some folks their fingers, a sour taste in my mouth for sure.
@@sealstech8087 Use the Glock 42. The pressure is low enough to prevent an explosive malfunction, and if it does explode, the explosion will be way less damaging to you the shooter.
High pressure loads can Cause series problems in blocks with the barrels. Fired brass that's not resized in a full case residing die can be a problem when reloaded and fired again.
@@stayvigilant7856But what about Underwood? Supposedly great ammo company but they're known for +P. I just bought some but haven't fired any yet from 9's or .45's. (No +P+, though.)
@@teller1290 if your shooting a glock you should be fine 90 percent of the time with any ammo from what I've seen. I've had nothing but reliable proven glocks
Own 2-Glocks-one a 17-Gen.1-& Glock stands by & took great care of my needs. Never had any issues with either Glock. When I mailed my Gen. 1 to them, Glock sent it back with a Tupperware case, an additional 17 round U-shaped mag and the firearm was completely reworked-sights, firing pin, everything, all for the asking. All I spent was postage, which was under 20 bucks. It’s a piece of Glock legacy that is absolutely reliable. My Glock 48 MOS is my defense weapon. I know it will go bang, instead of click.
The majority of law enforcement across the country can't say the same I've seen numerous videos of them pulling their Duty weapon and not doing a thing and they have to react the slide several times.
Gen3 made in Austria glocks - all models - best handgun ever made - gen 3 and 4 had some ironed out issues - 3 pin frame best - single coil spring best
I’m 61 and own various weapons. My favorite pistol is the CZ SP-01 Tactical tuned up by Cajun Gun Works. NEVER had any issues with that weapon. I own the G40 and kept it stock and have experienced zero malfunctions. Will shoot anything with no problems. The extra barrel length gives you the full powder burn and power needed to drop whatever you need. Stay with CZ and you’ll be 👍. Anything they push out is above the competition.
CZ pistols are of much higher quality than a Glock even the P-10 , which is basically a Glock clone is the superior firearm in every way. The only reason to by a Glock is the after market support. Virtually every major gun manufacturer makes a reliable striker fired polymer handgun. Glocks were an innovation 40 years ago and unquestionably changed the handgun game more than any pistol since the 1911. All the other manufacturers have caught up and most have surpassed Glock in quality of build ,reliability and fit and finish out of the box.
In my old Unit Aco 5/20 Inf there was always issues with other soldiers firearms. Didn’t matter what type. I served there for 2.5yrs and never had a double feed,jam,cook off, etc! I stayed in the field and kept my weapons cleaned.I guess I was lucky or ahead of malfunctions.
If it doesn’t say Gen on it it’s probably the Gen 1 models. Gen means which generation it is, when it was made. Gen 1 (1982-1987) Gen 2 (1988-1997) Gen 3 (1998-2009) Gen 4 (2010-2016) Gen 5 (2017-Present)
Echo the same as others commenting. Used Glocks and Sigs as both service and private weapons for decades. I shot or shoot mainly .40 and .45 with 9mm for current service use. I own Gen 1 to 4 Glocks and Sig's 226, 2022, 228 and 229 etc no 320's though. But anyway at least 6 digits worth of handgun rounds fired over 40+yrs of shooting and 20+yrs of gun collecting and other than a single squib load. NEVER had any gun blow up be it handgun or long gun of all types and makes and don't know anyone personally who has either. Most if not all of these "guns blowing up" are ammo related. Many people just do not know what to do if you pull the trigger and it goes click, not bang and or do not stop shooting when hearing or feeling the gun doing weird things. Over pressured round (IE too much powder in casing), light primer strikes and squib loads, along with a lack of training or experience is why most of these accidents happen, along with the buying of poor quality or reloaded ammo. Lastly always wear gloves, safety glasses and other safety gear. As even the best ammo can have a dud or the gun may have that rare defect or be out of spec, the latter happens mainly to those who build or mod their own guns with not so good parts or knowledge. Guns just do not blow up nor do they just go off by themselves. Its almost always some external issue that causes it. Not saying all guns are perfect, you have the odd lemon here and there. But to say that a whole brand of firearms are blowing up is ludicrous and untrue. Pardon the long post just bored.
10MM must be a dangerous round For the Shooter, as well as Wild Game. I love the 40. I carry a Glock 27 or XD40SC when I'm hiking in the woods. And I also carry it in the winter. I stay away from the 10MM and 357 Sig is on the expense of side.
After watching, i am thinking that I will keep all of my glocks as 9x19. Also it appears that some of the expensive aftermarket barrels are not especially safe either.
The problem with glock over any other handgun is fail-safety. in the event of a detonating cartridge, a steel frame can be malleable and yield at tensile stresses where plastic is far past becoming shrapnel. The unsupported case head aspect of it is a matter of failure at lower pressure. If a glock were to have a more supported case head, it might develop more pressure so that its failure with a gross overpressure might be more severe even if a minor overpressure might be less likely to blow it up. An all steel handgun could mitigate this by providing a fail safe path for the gas to exit the front of the gun near the barrel.
I love my FN handguns. Fully supported chamber and likely the best barrels of polymer frame handguns. Incredibly high quality and definitely worth the small price increase over competitors.
i had 2 batches of bad ammo from black hills. they were blowing out ejector rings , black hills ruined my mag release. replaced it and it is still running.
Aftermarket parts = more risk. Also check ammo. Any firearm can have issues. Even the most reliable cars in the world can fail. Mechanical items are prone to this.
Had gen2-gen4 model 20s, and one model 40. The model 40 was awesome. The rest were nothing I'd want to go into battle with. No blow-ups, but I always bought good ammo. I recently bought a used (worn the heck out) gen4 model 27 40SW. It worked, but I shelled out the postage to send to Glock just to satisfy my curiousity. The list of parts they replaced was two pages.
Two pages? Damn! The average Glock has 34 parts in it. How many parts did they actually replace? Barrel? Magazine catch? Extractor? Most common issues IMO...
Many times these pistols are firing out of battery as well. It's surprisingly rare to find a pistol that's truly tuned properly. Many manufacturers seem happy to just send a pistol out the door so long as it merely cycles somewhat reliably.
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures Hello I would like to ask you a question about this. Do you think people who purchased especially the Glock 40 and mos would have a case against Glock because a layman like me and many others didn't know about the problems with the barrels and not being able to shoot hard cast?
In reference to Glock and Sig failures with or without factory barrels, I moved on to the SAR-9 that’s factory rated for NATO ammunition and has no issue with +P rounds. Turkish made firearms don’t enjoy the limelight of Sig, Glock, and Smith and Wesson, etc. but are genuine “go to war” weapons.
There’s a lot of mentions of KKM barrels. How do Lonewolf/Alphawolf barrels for Glock 20 rate? I’ve heard they are better. Also, S & B fmj were all I could find during the lockdown. Now I’m scared suspicious of them.
I've got 3 Alpha Wolf barrels in glocks. 2 20's and a 40 longslide. I've had good luck with them. They take some polishing with Dremel and polish compound to smooth out the ramp and chamber a bit but I didn't mind that. They run flawlessly now and I load my own...I am NOT afraid of the powder dispenser lol. They hold up to "real" 10mm. 200 grain bullets doin 1350ish. So far so good for the last few years. BUT keep in mind stress can be cumulative too..meaning my luck could run out with my hot handloads. That'll be on me not the platform.
@@carykieffer4086 good info. Unfortunately I returned my Alpha Wolf. It wouldn’t chamber so I see why you had to Polish the port. Lonewolf told me it’s been a problem and they have a new stock coming out that should fix the problem. Should be out by Now. Thanks for the feedback.
What Fudd. This is rare and mostly with bad reloads. I got so many gen 3/4 glocks, polymer xd, mp, and many other polymer along with lots of all metal sigs and 1911s. I've shot bad 40sw and 45acp reloads "a lot" too and nothing ever blew up like that. To be clear, some bad 40sw loads did blow out the extractor 1 or 2 times (I've put the extractor back and and shot regular ammo fine). I knew I was shooting bad reloads (from Freedom Ammunition in 40sw and 45acp, just bad!) though.
Wow, very interesting warning stories. Thanks for the info brother! One thing to consider, as far as I know, nobody shoots more ammo out of their firearms than the various special force units of the military. With all the pistols available to them, and after multiple tests, they chose the glock 19.
Stupid response. The military puts their firearms through rigorous testing. Money matters, but several companies offered their pistols for less than Glock. Your laughing emojis are just to reinforce your opinion in your own mind. Glock is picked “, because of testing, by the VAST majority of all law enforcement and military. You don’t like Glock because it’s better than what you have and you hate it for some ignorant reason.
I only use factory ammo that isnt hotter than 1250 fps with a 200 grain bullet, usually a 180 grain bullet. I've never had a issue with my glock 20 sf and glock 29 gen 4. I just recertified my glock armorers course this week, the instructor said that glocks are tested with +p+ rounds, I dont remember the round count they test glocks with, but it's a high round count, according to the instructor.
Each manufacturer of whatever is being produced has a defective percentage based upon overall output. If I was a betting man, I'd say in firearms the percentage is low amongst the popular global brands. I am surprised regarding the KKM and Glocks. Do we know if aftermarket recoil springs and KKM barrels were used? Reloaded ammo versus factory manufactured? Of all the failed blown-up 10mms, what grain of ammo resulted in failure?
Two ways they usually blow up and blow related to the ammo. Most of the time it’s a squib bullet that hangs in the barrel. Some times it is over loaded ammo but that doesn’t happen very often. Even overloaded these bullets usually don’t blow the gun up.
My G23 Gen4 has been 100% even with Underwood ammo which I heard was loaded hotter ..., I have a KKM conversion bbl to 357Sig and that's been 100% too ...
@@WildwestwranglerSo, I wonder how much stress Underwood +P 230 is on my Legion P220 .45 ACP and if I should shoot it from that pistol, given it has an aluminum receiver?
Just pictures are not enough info. You are talking about several different versions, is 19,21,17 etc, and no mention of gen. Were they gen 1? 2? 3,4,5? Also, were they modified? Ammo? Squibs? There are many reasons for catastrophic failure, you can't always blame any one thing...