GLx vs SLx Primary Arms 1-10x 

I'm a simple man, I see new Brass Facts video, I watch... even though I have ZERO intent to buy today's topic.

Side note, Primary Arms is no longer making the Glx 1-10x and once the sell out of inventory, that's it.

“For the five of you NOT bathroom-break-maxing on your lunch break at work…” I have never felt so called out in my life

Funny how marketing still follows the Sears & Robuck coined "Good, Better, Best" model paradigm

The algorithm requires engagement

9:48 “it actually grows and shrinks relative to the target”. The best way to have a tactical birds and bees convo with your son.

The helion with lpvo looks so much like the halo br

LPVOFacts is my favorite

Sorry I just bought a Beretta 1301 and that is now my entire personality. LVPOs no longer relevant.

The plx 1-8 compact is great. Primary just needs to expand their plx line by adding a 2-12 or 3-18. I don't know what they are waiting for.

Godless heathen here lol. I purchased the glx 1-10 griffin and glx 1-6 griffin at the same to compare the two. I feel that the 1-6 had a much better 1x, but I really wanted at least 8x magnification. So I opted to go with the 1-10 and piggyback a red dot. I wish the sub 1k market for lpvos had more FFP 8x or 10x mil tree style reticles to offer but it does not at this time. So the 1-10 seems like the de facto winner. And technically if you get lucky you could get a plxc for $1050 if it’s open box. FWIW I also tested the swampfox warhorse FFP 1-6 and that actually had a really good 1x but the reticle was a .5 mil tree with not nearly enough wind dots for windy north Texas. I think that’d be a really interesting option if they ever release the 1-8 and 1-10 with a better reticle

I would definitely be interest in an LPVO teir ranking video with Hop similar to the LAM video, especially the second half where it's all adjusted for price.

Bro you really look like my 9 year old 😂 is hilarious.

I'm just gonna get the PA Nova and call it a day

thanks for telepathically knowing exactly the comparison I needed, and spawning as Brass Facts

I bought a nova about 9 months ago on your rec & I’ll never give it up til it falls to pieces lol

9:34 “Most of you probably don’t have wives” 😂

Buying a LPVO requires understanding that it is not a one-scope-fits all unit, unless you box in your expectations of use. For example, I have a 1-8x that lives on a 14.5" AR. It spends most of it's life on 1x, but I have the ability to flex it to 8x if needed. Then, I had a 1-10x on an 18" gun. It's a SFP, but that's ok because it spent most of its life locked at 10x, with the ability to flex to 1x. I since found that my 2-12x was far more tolerable in this role for eyebox constraints, with an offset RDS for good measure.

Brock, even though I've never bought an LVPO I appreciate how much time you spend picking them apart.👍

I'm left wondering why not use a MPVO with piggyback red dot, once you're up to the 23 ounces of the GLx 1-10x.

One of my favorite parts of BrassFacts videos is seeing Brock get, very stoicly, hit in the face by hot brass and just keep going.

Thanks for giving a critical review of every optic known to man.

The Helion with any scope gives off massive WA2000 vibes. Shame it has that terrible height over bore tho lol

Tiborasaurus rex did some science on the 3 tiers of primary arms scopes and the SLX is like 90% as good of glass as the GLX and the GLX and PLX are like dead even in glass quality

@brassfacts Just fyi, the GLX 1-10 is not really a GLX. It was a one off run during Covid by PA that got super delayed and once they finally finished, they released them as a limited run. Once they are gone they are gone. And it has Japanese glass, which none of the other GLX have.

holy shit BF, perfect timing. putting together a 20" build and been looking at the GLx 1-10. really like the ACSS Raptor reticle, also have one of their 3x Prisms with it.

This is your best review video. Thanks mang

Thanks for getting another strap for your Alpinist.

I have no interest in owning either, as I am ascended (PLXc enjoyer) but I will watch, like, and comment none the less.

I'm really glad you did this review. I might still get the PLX but now I see how little difference there is between the SLX glass and GLX glass.

Wow calling me out for watching this at work

hey WELT news released a "Documentary" few days ago on the G95K. I think it'd be hilarious to watch you guys' reaction to it

While not ideal, the 1-10 SFP with the mil reticle can be used pretty well. It’s like the old nightforce nxs scopes, at 5x you can double the mill increments and still get pretty darn good mil performance. YES takes some getting used to and may not be worth it, it does have SOME merit and can be used on 5x with consistency.

I have been waiting on a review of the GLx 1-10. I like the updated reticle compared to my PLxC at the 1 magnification. The Mil reticle has been amazing for me.

Thank you for this! I have a primary arms slx raptor and I been wanting to see a side by side!

@BrassFacts Speaking of the hellion... and it's lefty ejecting... how do you find it shooting suppressed? I'm also a cursed lefty and find myself trying every platform... looking for something that doesn't give me instant cancer. Tried the Tavor, lefty ARs, scar, etc... any suggestions on lefty 556 guns for least gas in the face?

Brassfacts next video needs to be him shooting something in 50bmg and telling us why someone in your group needs an anti material rifle.

I’ll second theGLx4 2.5-10 has 80%+ of the glass for 1/2 cost of the PLxC

SLx's used to be around $500 several years ago. I have an Athena 3-18x and when it released, it was over $500. Then it dropped down to its $400 or less and I was kicking myself in the ass.

Have you tried resetting the zero on the Turrents? No Allen key will fit the screws in mine. Neither the key they sent me nor any other from any other set. I'm waiting days for primary arms to get back to me with a solution for this.

@BrassFacts, which one of those 2 reticles would you recommend for a Scar 17? The Griffin or the Raptor

Can you review the Glx v Slx prism next?

Serious question which did you like better? The PA GLX 1-10 or the Arken EP8?

I hated my slx 1-10. The eye box made it useless as a lpvo, plxc is much better, so is my slx 1-6. Once you get past 8x in a lpvo just switch to a different magnification range

I run a Holosun AEMS on a riser with a PA GLX 6x magnifier mouted to a FTC unity mount . I just cant get over the eye box restrictions and fish eye LPVOs give at 1x as well as the crap battery life and inability to use with NV .

based off the gripe about the too small dots, do you think a tree with larger dots and smaller dots in between for higher magnification shooting would be better, or just slightly bigger dots in general?

Piggyback red dot on the Springfield is pretty funny. Makes me think just how high you could get your height over bore and it still being something someone would actually run. Like famas with tall scope mount lpvo and piggyback dot, You know what no Famas, riser mount acog, piggybacked eotech. Fire up the welder

You know, that after watching your preparedness videos I see, that there are many more people thinking like that around the globe. Here in Poland there's a channel called "Domowy Survival", that told Poles the same even 10 years ago and still does tell, that it's not about sweating. Polish prepping community also has some strange people and because we don't have as easy access to boomsticks instead of tacticools it's mainly "primitives", which base their survival on being primitive, not relying on any technology and going back to nature, but that's a long topic. I suggest you to contact him and you may do an interesting collab with him.

I have the GLX 1-10 LPVO. Glass is amazing. Eye box is a shit show and a half to put it mildly.

Yeah I bought the SLX 1-10x griffin mil on sale for $400 plus tax…. Agreee with your assessment, but this optic is decently suited for a “battle rifle” set up like what I have now on my AR10 in .308 just my algorithmic $0.02 cents. 😊 keep up the good work sir 👍

I see Brass Facts video, i click play (even if i want more Elcan Facts)

I want a 8x fixed microprism. With a red dot on top. Much faster than reaching up and turning the magnification dial. I have never needed any of the magnification that is in between 1x and 8x. A micro fixed prism would be much lighter and probably able to have better glass for the same price

What 1-8 lpvo would you choose if you could only choose one for the rest of your life on your primary rifle

Thank you so much for doing a formal review of the GLx 1-10× FFP! Several people had asked me to consider doing a follow up after my “first impressions” video and I never got around to it… but I think I may be off the hook now since you touched on basically everything I was thinking and came to the same conclusions about it. 😇 It was cool to hear it via your trademark comprehensive review style that we all know and love!

Great review. I own both original PA 1-8x ACSS scopes, the silver class/SLX SFP and platinum class/ PLX FFP and love them both. But...if I have to choose just 1 I'll go with the smaller, lighter, less expensive SLX. It does everything I ask of it and optical performance is so close to the platinum, I often cant see a difference. Besides SFP makes much more sense on an LPVO or any scope below 10x to 12x imo. Why would anyone range or fire at a distant target on anything but max mag anyway? FFP reticles cant even be seen below 3x to 5x anyway. I'll take SFP, thank you.

Notice me senpai 🙏 a banger I'll listen to now, and rewatch later so I can see you wave your arms around / your included edits so everything has more context 😎

Id be happy if we started to move to 34mm tubes as standard. Ive got a cheap 1-8 30mm and it really can only be used prone. I might as well have bought a cheap swfa fixed power.

These days, I am trending towards fixed magnification scope with red dot. 5x prism and dot is pretty sweet on a 223 gun. The hardest part is deciding which is the offset optic.

Please upload the hellion review! Im trying to decide if i should buy one or save up for the spear lt. i’m left handed as well.

And this is why I have a 2x10 GLX on the hillion with a T2 offset

What mount are you using for the 12 o’clock red dot?

If only they weren’t so obsessed with chevrons.

It would make my day if you made a video on the TA55 acog aka the memecog bc there are no legitimate/ professional reviews out there for it

Plxc in mills was on back order for months and had a hard time justifying the cost since I am in college. Ended getting the pst ge2 1-6 in mill and have been very surprised at the quality. I feel the lack of features and weight bring the cost down while the glass is still great.

I've decided 2 or 2.5 to 10 or 12 is the sweet spot.

The Panzer has a killer 1x at around 209🎉

5:37 POV: You're a federal agent who just no-knock raided a house (you got the wrong address)

Speaking of 1-10s, athlon ares 1-10 is 60% off on expertvoice rn (She chonky though). Along with various other athlon 1-4,6,8 and mpvo and high power options. If you got access, go forth and splurge brothers.

I like my Hellion, just not a fan of the trigger and LOP. I want to like LPVOs but i just dont care about 1x, _but_ throwing a 2.5-10x on my shorty upper just feels excessive because theyre all at least 12.5" long.

Now I'm curious your thoughts around the SLx 4-16. On paper it sounds decent for the price

not me wearing a woobie hoodie as i watch the video lmao

What hearing pro do you use? Haven’t seen too many run earbuds like you do

I’m considering a hellion. Please bully me out of that mistake.

Brock, are you by any chance excited for the PLXC 1-8 Nova?

What’s that mount you’re using for the hollerson?

Neither. After trying a pst gen2 1-6x I’m liking the idea of the shift to “MVPO” in the 2/2.5-10/14/15x. Unfortunately there’s not a whole lot of options for that range atm.

Is it bad that i just want a decent FFP mid-range (2/3x-15/18x[or something in that range]) thats sub 1k with locking turrets, or at least a locking windage turret with a traditional mill reticle?

What is the earbud pro that is being used? Does it have BT?

Should have gone with "Glass Facts"

The algorithm must be pleased

@BrassFacts What watch are you rocking?

All premium optics should be cheap cost because of 100% automation in production.

I like my arken EP8 but I’m definitely looking for a Lpvo on my 12.5

The mic goes in the hollow of your neck. That is where you want it. Use the magnet.

1:07 "I already reviewed it so I can't do it again" we can Alwtdo it again!

Special Purchase scopes with GLx glass for $199 are goated

I just think 10x is too much on a 556 rifle that’s not a PRS setup gun. And for those guns I’d run something that is more like a 2-10 or 4-16. I don’t really know where a 1-10 fits

what earpro are you using?

people always say lpvos are weak and can break.... does anyone know specifically what breaks on lpvos

So wait a second, the GLx 1-10 has its own “speed ring” of sorts? 😮

How does the GLX compare to the VUDU 1-10? Specifically on a .308 or an urban SPR?

I got the vortex venom 1-6 the other day for 240 and Free shipping waiting for the drop but I'm hoping it's as good as the Sig Msr 1-6

best bang for buck i ever got was the 2.5x slx prism for 100 shipped lol

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I'd be curious to hear your take on, at what price point do you obtain a durable enough optic to rely on?

Can’t you purchase the auto live caps after market from primary arms anyway?

All I could hear was PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG from the Hellions flash hider triggering my tinnitus.

Don’t ever stop reviewing LPVOs pls

How are the Scalarworks mounts ?

Kinda prefer the mil reticle on the GLX so I eventually swapped the SLX for that.