Look at some of the reviews of aftermarket chains. I've read some horror stories of aftermarket chains breaking. OEM lasted 140k Miles without breaking. Do what you want @@imgonnagogetthepapersgetth8347
@@zimmermanlandscape9287 Why were we lucky if they made 100,000 miles? Because they were poorly made with poor parts right at the factory. That was my point about oem parts. That's not all-encompassing, of course.
Used this as a guide on a 15 Equinox with just under 92k starting to make the noise already-turns out the chain was stretched and rubbing the top of the valve cover. This is probably the best video explaining this process without an engine hoist, and your explanation of top-dead-center actually made a lot of sense. All in all it took me about 10 hours start to finish but it already runs so much better that it ever had before.
This video is excellent, it makes this pain in the rear end of a job so much easier. Thank you for taking the time to make it and share it with the world.
Your a good mechanic my friend. Its always nice to talk to someone whos been there and done that. In this case you capture those little things that someone doing it for the first time would have to figure out on their own, you know, things like how to hold your tongue the right way to get to a bolt or locating that bolt you cant see but can only feel ( The Houdini bolt ). Thanks for posting, I'm sure your video will save me a couple hours time as I'm getting ready to tackle this job myself.
I have the same vehicle and I’m going through this now I’ve changed the top timing chain but didn’t do the water pump one. Put everything back started then second later ….off, imma just doing all the timing and follow your video. No one else did a video on the terrain timing chain but you. Very well made video bro this will help me out a lot.
Thanks for the comment. Lmk if you have any questions, I'll always do the best I can to help the people that watch my videos. Also Make sure that you replace the guides and tensioners. Don't cheap out on parts here. It's BEST to use OEM parts. Cost me around 300 bucks for All OEM components. I've read so many horror stories of people having aftermarket chains break.
I'm not sure why you found it necessary to take out the engine mount. The top 2 bolts were kinda 'hard' to get to on the timing chain cover, but managed after some time.
Just wanted to say that I have the exact same vehicle, and one of the black guide bolts worked its way loose and wreaked havoc inside the timing cover and snapped the cam timing chain. The kits was about $115 off of Amazon and I was able to replace EVERYTHING and re-time it all thanks to your video. Your instructions are spot on. It runs so smooth and quiet now. Purring like a kitten. Thanks man! A fantastic tutorial. Took me about 12 hours, start to finish. I did not have to remove the engine mount. I was able to get that top bolt with a 10mm 'ratchet style' box end Stanley wrench. Just a great tutorial, I can't thank you enough. Top quality. Keep em coming!
I was going to attempt this myself but, i dont have a garage. Plus i dont trust doing something ive never done. Thank you for this video, if i HAVE to do it myself. This will be the video i watch and if you dont mind ill put your link below!
Kindness is a weakness to the indecent but virtuous to the decent thank you for being among our most decent. Nice work. My wife just bought one similar. Drove to Nebraska from Colorado and back. Next day that dreaded sound. I love working on vehicles and did it back in 1980 in my 20s professionally for a few years. My body today don’t like to get in all those uncomfortable positions but I’ll do it. Your video is perfect. Bravo sir. Those engines look pretty dirty now a days.
If your only paying 1500 for this job , RUN! This is a detailed job and not to be rushed through by some non tax paying mechanic! With timing kit, water pump, gaskets, spark plugs, warranty , 3200 bucks easy.
@@Rccrdawgs not true, my guy said 1400. It would probably take him 4 hours and he's legit.. works in a shop during their after hours and takes in his own customers.
THIS IS AN AWESOME DIY VIDEO...VERY INFORMATIVE AND WASN'T RUSHED! IM MECHANICALLY INCLINED BUT HAVE BEEN DOUBTING MYSELF ABOUT IT.....THIS INSPIRED ME!
Thanks for the comment George. Just make sure that all those timing marks line up. It seems like a complex and intimidating job, but it's really not that bad.
By any chance, to you remember the torque specs on the crankshaft pulley bolt, as well as the valves cover bolt torque specs? By the way, I was able to do these same repairs with ease because of your video. Most detailed video out there! Besides the cutting the video short!
onatiming belt job i would have replaced that partno matter what , unless it was recently done . but to each their own . thanks for sharing your expertise
Surprised you didnt do the water pump while you were right there😵💫 i have to do my wifes terrain. Not looking forward to it. But seems straight forward and easier than doing an audi timing chain. What really threw me off was the timing chain marks not aligned on the oem chain. I dont think it skipped tooth on timing but something definitely strange. In the future if you could call out tool sizes as you use them that would be fantastic. Anyway thanks for posting!
I’m about to mine for the second time it only has 60,000 miles but out of gm warranty I didn’t have the timing right it’s off by a tooth I think how u did it will help me get it timed right Ty
Awesome video, I did it without removing the motor mount, you just ha e to get that top 10mm bolt with a skinny ratchet from the top above the alternator :)
I've seen several similar videos,yours has the balance chain replacement included. I wonder why the water pump isn't also replaced when going this far into the job? The only other thing I would add would be assemby lube to the chain and tensioners. I may have a job like this in my near future. Thanks for sharing.
Also. You can see when he is in there. There is a sliver of head gasket hanging out that is crazy sharp. Save yourself the hassle and make sure not to force any bolts out and your ratchet slip. Trip to the ER cost me more than the repair.
Great video sir i have a question after installing the timing and balance chains when rotating the engine manually there's a spot where it gets a little harder to turn then there's a popping sound not that loud but it seems to be a valve the exhaust is at the 7 o clock postition and and the intake at 2pm at tdc so i doubt there's something mistimed but i may be wrong
Resistance is normal. That resistance you feel is the camshaft lobes opening valves. So long as you have the chain timed properly on those timing marks, you should be good to go. If you are not confident about the timing, take the chain off and start over. If you hear a metal on metal sound, or the engine is binding, then that would be a problem.
I understand the two camshaft bolts require replacement. Single use only... Or "torque to yield"... But doesnt this also apply yo the main crankshaft bolt ?
Wondering as every kit including yours has a timing gear oiler. I didn’t see anything in this video, what do you use this for or does it get placed somewhere not shown in the video? Thanks again for the video as this is very helpful.
Great question. I did replace the oiler, but I forgot to video the replacement. I believe its bolt off, bolt on. You can't miss it once you disassemble everything. Very simple. I believe its purpose is to direct engine oil directly on the chain. Really, it's just like an oil guide chute.
Got same thing going on and just drained oil and it's silver ..... so is that from timing chain eating everything and gear being bad or do I got bigger issues?
When doing this job, use good quality replacement new parts (e.g.Cloyes or similar). However, the black LH chain guide can be totally disregarded & replaced with a much stronger item as used on racing engines, which is obtainable on-line from 2 suppliers in the US. Their much superior & stronger 6mm dia. guide fixing bolts should also be used throughout. When installing the 2 chain tensioners, prime with oil beforehand, also the VVT sprockets internally. When replacing the valve cover, remove all the OEM 8.8 bolts & replace with 10.9 rated strength bolts or better still 12.9. Use SHELL synthetic 5W-30 Helix Ultra Professional engine oil and change with filter (best being from MANN or Bosch) after 2,000km. Check valve timing chain top (upper) guide after 30,000km for wear. Change valve cover oil filler cap for a new AC Delco FC219 type with blow-off valve incorporated. Job done.
So you can move the crank once you take the timing chain off??? I moved mine clock wise until the timing marks lined up after I already took off the main timing I’m talking about the balance shaft chain
I figured it out but nope I got it all good didn’t bend anything and it’s funny u find a question hilarious and yes I can turn the crank without the timing chain on shows how much u kno about a 2.4 ecotec it’s cool tho good thing I figured it out myself
Of course you can turn the stuff, how else are you going to get it to line up, just don't try turning it more than a couple teeth. Just make sure all the marks line up when you are done
I have a question you first set it up the black mark was perfect inside the Groove then when you turned it 3 full times it was one link off that Groove at 35:30 into the video so it was like it was before you started the job. Why is that? Is that ok?
This is normal. I’ve learned that the engine does this intentionally to ensure that the chain and sprockets wear evenly. The chain will not line up with its respective marks every rotation. As long as you are 100% sure that when you installed the chain all the marks lined up properly, you should be good to go.
I just replaced the tensioner but didn't tap it to "activate" it. There were so many back and forth comments online with no clear answer on whether it will activate itself or you have to manually activate it. Of course I didn't see this video until the job was done. The car sounds exactly the same as it did before with the quick rattle on startup. I honestly have no idea if it activated or not.
The tensioner must be manually activated. It is possible it deployed, however if you are still getting that rattle, chances are it didn't activate. I would pull the head, and check the timing chain tension. Did you also replace the balance shaft chain? That was the main rattle noise on this car. If you look through the video, it was hitting the case.
Ні. thank you for video. I am considering GMC Terrain 2.4 as my next car. 90% of cars with mileage of 140-180 thousand kilometers. Now I understand that cars up to 200 thousand have a native timing chain. What to do when buying such a car? Immediately replace this spare part? Should I wait for the absence of symptoms? And how much does such work cost from a professional mechanic? In general, I am surprised that there is a chain in the engine of a modern car like in my bicycle.
I would avoid the GMC Terrain 2.4 if possible. The 2.4 likes to burn oil, and thus, the pcv system gets clogged regularly. I believe the oil consumption is due to crummy piston rings (causing excessive blow by). Subscribers have reported that a replacement timing chain may cost between 1400-3400 USD depending on the mechanic. Also depends if you replace the balance shaft chain. Both chains should be replaced every 100-120 Thousand miles. In short, unless you are mechanically inclined and intend to do your own repairs and maintenance, A used high mileage 2.4 Terrain will likely be problematic and expensive to maintain.
@@OldSoulMillennial Agree with all that you said. I have a 2011 Chevy Equinox that uses lots of oil, clogged pcv system blew out rear main seal, and has ruined the cat because of all the oil blow-by, cracked exhaust manifold, etc. So yes, I would advise avoiding that 2.4L engine like the plague.
Those chains not coming back to the same tooth is by design. Every manufacturer does it so that any wear is spread out. Say a tooth on sprocket was shaped different than the rest and the chain hit that link every time it would make for quick wear on one link. By design wear is spread out. To tell if you're in the right spot count the links between the marks
Did you forget to use 'clear flood mode' to prime the engine before start-up? All those lifters, bearings, etc. needed pre-lube. CFM should be used if vehicle isn't used for several days or so, regardless of new chains, etc.
CFM can be accomplished by holding your foot to the floor while cranking but this is totally unnecessary all the other components he's referencing to you did not touch there is still residue oil left over on them. In clear flood mode would not give you enough oil pressure and distribution to lube all them Parts anyways
I do not recall unfortunately. I know it's a larger size. You should be able to purchase a kit and check the plug on the side of the block before you tackle this job.
@@OldSoulMillennial also wanted to ask have you had any other troubles since you replaced the timing chain? My timing chain kit arrives in the mail this weekend and I just wanted to make sure I didn’t overlook anything
@@trollseasoning1012 Zero Issues with the repair. I highly recommend you do the timing chain and balance shaft chain. Stick with OEM. I've read many horror stories of the aftermarket chains breaking. I have links to oem components in the description.
Hard to say, as filming triples the time of a job. I would guess if you work nonstop, you could complete this in a day. Best to take your time and plan on 2 days.
So after getting all of the chains and guides on, how many time do I need to rotate the engine so the timing marks will line back up to everything? Or is this one of those one-time thing and Let Jesus take the wheel? Lol
Good question. So I spun the engine over several times in an attempt to get everything perfectly realigned on the timing marks. I was unable to. On initial installation of the chain, triple check that the timing marks are aligned properly, and then let Jesus take the wheel.
I had to do this. I had the first chain on and when tackling the second I had managed to rotate the engine a few times. To get it lined back up perfectly on the marks, I think I rotated it about 30 or 40 more times before everything landed back where it was supposed to be. I was then able to focus on the second chain/timing marks. So yeah, a lot of turns is the answer but they will line back up eventually.
Stop around 22:50. I don't think you are suppose to turn the crank after you take the timing chain off. Isn't this an INTERFERENCE ENGINE???? I think you should have rotated the other sprockets (water pump and stationary sprocket) to along to the crankshaft mark. I will watch to the end to see if this engine starts. 🤞
After 1st revolution off chain installation the color will NOT aligned back ti the marks it will take over 100 revolution to aligned again..what u see is normal you have a stretch chain.COLOR LINK ONLY MATTERS AT INSTALATION ONLY.
Oh it will break GMC forgot to add that in the sticker price automatic locks electric windows am/fm cd player and a timing chain that will need replaced at 31k miles and a pvc line that will Clog and blow out your seals
Same thing when buying tires .. tire shop quote $1000 for the same tires I got from Walmart $700 and you got to shop around and mean I just want to pay tires and not your electric bill for the month …
OSM, thank you so much! I can't imagine doing this repair AND filming it, bravo. My Terrain runs like it's brand new now! For more novice DIY'ers (like me), this took me about 15 hours and I went slowly and carefully, some tips for folks like me: -you will need an impact driver to remove the crankshaft pulley bolt (I also needed a handheld propane torch from Home Depot to heat up this bolt for 2 minutes, finally broke free). -I also recommend removing the engine mount with support under oil pan, it just made it so much easier to access everything, as it's pretty tight. -Also, how to “find the top dead center of cylinder #1” found at 18:15 here: ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OzzqmPmZxnc.htmlfeature=shared ). -I used Dorman part 917-954 special bolt to replace the guide bolt + 10 mm Hex cover (it replaces both) -Lastly, I found putting the alternator belt back on the tensioner as one of the more difficult parts of this actually! You have to put it around all the other pulleys first and slip it on the smooth tensioner wheel last (while extending the tensioner). Thanks again OSM, a life saver, good luck to everyone else.
Can this be the cause of a random missfire. Since every other part is replaced. We have all new 02. Injectors coils plugs. Throttle body high pressure fuel pump mas map
@@Texan1 Do you have live data on your scan tool? If not, I’d start by swapping the spark plug and coil from the misfiring cylinder with a good cylinder. You can also do a compression test on the faulty cylinder.
The balance shaft chain does more than drive the water pump, it also drives the intake and exhaust balance shafts. The intake and exhaust balance shafts must be properly timed with the crank shaft.
The best way to replace the timing chain or water pump on these GM models is to sell the vehicle as soon as possible for a loss, just to get away from the pain.
If this is a question, this is an interference motor. Meaning if the timing chain isn’t perfectly timed, it is very likely that valve damage will occur.
@@OldSoulMillennial yes sir ty, it should had said will that bend a valve if it’s only one tooth off. Got a family member who thought he was a mechanic
