About 9:41, the usefulness of not showing an animation when switching between images is to allow comparing two very similar images (e.g. two versions of a design) to check what is different between them. With the animation it's very hard to notice just the changes, especially if they are small.
I'm honestly not sure it will matter _that_ much. Most of the power screens use comes from the backlight. I assume the screen would use maybe 30% less power at 10fps vs 144fps
For your typical desktop there's most of the time a cursor which is moving. That's also the reason why VRR got delayed for so long. In full screen games which hide your cursor, VRR should do fine. But on your desktop, you don't want your cursor to lag because of the lowered refresh rate. For touch screen devices without pointer and cursor this might help though. However I think current Linux phones do not have screens which support VRR. But for the future it's definitely a benefit.
The lack of animations for the image viewer is perfect for comparing between two images, and it was the default behavior in eog, the former gnome image viewer implementation. It's very helpful in my workflow for art.
I just realised why your videos feel so professional. It's because you're stood up instead of sat down. It makes a world of difference. Kudos to you, good sir!
This release had a lot of work done in the background stuff.. More in the usability rather than any fancy appearance changes. Nice to see more desktops focusing on actual things that matter.
I'm a permanent XFCE4 user for my Linux DEs, but I do enjoy watching these videos, just to see what's up with the rest of the DEs. Good to see both KDE & GNOME getting better & better so frequently! Nice video, as usual, Nick!😊
Hi 👋 How long have you been using XFCE? Because I've been using it for about a few days and wonder if it's OK for me because I love simplicity and stability, I want to hear back from an old XFCE user
@@wallflxw Hello! I've been using it for a bit over 2 years now. It's very simplistic and stable and a very clean environment to work with! The only way it'll break is if you accidentally mess up something on your GPU driver, or you break one of the basic system packages! Hope you'll enjoy your experience on XFCE! Welcome to the club!☺
Now if they would only allow you to use a sensible settings menu that is optimised for Desktop use instead of imitating Android and presenting us with silly pill buttons that waste space and uselessly dividing the settings into pages on a full size desktop. I'm not viewing this on a phone screen, so improve the user experience based on the actual environment!
@@LarixusSnydes funny you should say that. I've always said that GNOME is easier to understand if you think about it like a mobile phone metaphor, rather than a desktop metaphor.
One thing GNOME is behind is the lack of track-pad scroll sensitivity, this is the thing that GNOME devs still could not fix (atleast on wayland), KDE's google drive integration in plasma 6 is horrible, says that folder does not exist.
@@bvd_vlvd Packages supplied by Linux distributions are not official, and on Flathub, the Flatpaks can also be managed by the community. So it was important to have a simple way of distinguishing official packages from the rest. What is a shame is that they did not add an option allowing, when there are several sources for the same application, to select the official version by default rather than having to switch to Flathub ourselves in the hope to find an official version there.
5:54 yeees I am pretty new to Linux. Switched maybe 3 months ago. (Though I did use Gnome back in like 2014 for work, have had a Deck since day 1, and I've been occasionally trying to jump ship throughout the years) This was probably the one thing that directly cost me the most headache. Right click | Extract "Oh, it'd done already. I can now move it to where I wanted it." > 5 minutes later "What the hell did I do wrong? This does not look normal and nothing works!" Which was all just because I didn't notice that unzipping took more than 3 seconds. Because that loading indicator is just garbage. It's so hard to notice unless you are specifically looking for it
I for one actually welcome the snappy transition in Loupe, because I frequently have cases where I have to compare two images visually by pressing left and right to switch between them and the sliding animation actually gets in the way.
For the image viewer only animating switching when using the in-app buttons: Sometimes, if I need to compare two similar images, I switch between them quite a lot to spot differences, moving them makes this really hard. By switching without animation (at least for the keyboard) this makes finding such differences a lot easier.
You should try the Identity application, designed to compare multiple images, with useful features such as the ability to zoom in on different images simultaneously.
About the change in loupe (image viewer). I didn't like it having the animation, as I take screenshots to compare stuff from time to time and switch between images quickly to spot the changes. Might be a weird use case, but this solves it for me. I liked it having an animation anyway, as I understood that the focus was on normal users and better experience. So this solution is great for both cases
I really don't get the Gnome hate (from what seems to be primarily KDE users). As I undertstand it, the Gnome team wants to provide a stable, clean and not overloaded UI as a core (cough cough kde) while extensions allows users to change practically everything if they really want to change it. (this is not a dig at kde, they just have completely different approaches, one being cleanliness and stability, the other being many options and "cutting edge" features)
I feel like RU-vidrs are the absolute biggest problem with that. They want to be unique and quirky for not using the biggest DE out there, which is awesome, but they take it a step further and decide to spread misinformation and weird biases because of that. The point at which I got so pissed to the point of no return towards these people was after watching "Ranting About The GNOME Desktop" on Tech Over Tea channel. Brodie had The Linux Cast's Matt as the guest, a man who's as interested and knowledgeable about GNOME about as I would be about lymphocytosis cases in elephants. So what does a person like that have to say about GNOME? Let me dig it up for you so you can hear the most typical yet braindead take I run into all the time: "In a perfect world GNOME would absolutely have no extensions whatsoever...(30 seconds later)...GNOME is too much like a locked piece of software" I have no clue why is it always the people that gatekeep extensions telling you how you can't customize literally anything on GNOME and how GNOME devs will put you in jail if you change your wallpaper or whatever, I don't fucking know, I can't be bothered to listen to that bullshit anymore. The Unix way of doing things where you get a simple app that does one thing and does it well while being expandable with what you want is a heavenly solution for a desktop environment. Haters can just suck it honestly
It's easy to consider everything as hate, even criticism, and this way of thinking is pure tribalism. Personally, I've never much appreciated the idea, if we want to call it moronic like Apple, of having app menus or screens that obstruct the view (it's a desktop, not a tablet, for heaven's sake), as well as leaving solutions to third parties to fix this design madness, which should be a standard for the desktop environment. Instead, it seems to me that overall there's more interest in having a certain style coherence than functionality.
@@NocturnePigeonWhy criticize a project you don't use? Linux has a wide range of desktop environments to suit everyone. So why not accept that GNOME's choices may also be just right for other people? I love GNOME, which suits my needs perfectly…
@@Okki666 The analytical ability that leads us to find possible flaws and issues is one of the characteristics that sets us apart from beasts. What's the point of being a fanboy or hater without arguments? Neither brings out desirable features or problems to be addressed. And, no, the ones I mentioned are not software design choices but gaps that we expect to be filled by plugins.
Tried an early Gnome 46 pre-release, wayland only, just last week on real hardware, and I found it more performing than the previous release (some issues were still present then). Kde plasma 6 works surprisingly well with wayland. In my opinion, both wayland versions can be used daily by many users (considered that it will not be an option anymore in the future).
Oh, come on! I didn't even know about ctrl+l for the location bar! How is that discoverable?! Happy to hear they are adding mouse support there. EDIT: I see it's listed in the menu for keyboard shortcuts. Why wouldn't they at least make it part of the drop-down menu? Grrrrrrrr....
@@rueeggermeDoesn't make it easily discoverable, though. Even if, like me, you know the shortcut from the web browser, you still have to make the connection between a web browser and a file browser. I just wish menus were more helpful.
These kind of updates are great. Gnome 46 and Plasma 6 will both go a long way to make the Desktop Environments have the level of polish that the likes of Windows and Mac OS supposedly have. This combined with distribution adoption will be an easier sell to users that are looking for Mac OS and Windows alternatives.
@@akeem2983right? It wouldn't be hard to build that in to Nautilus. Open an AppImage and have a prompt to just run or else install to /opt and create a desktop entry.
9:41 - I'm so glad the change to the animation was made in the image viewer! It may seem small, but it makes comparing similar copies of an image MUCH easier. The animation is fun for general purpose use, but for anything where you need to compare or go through a lot of images quickly (cough cough professional photography), the animation _really_ gets in the way.
There are some changes I waited for a long time (notably VRR and the click to change path in Nautilus) but in terms of design, native accent colors still hasn't been implemented yet. I really like GNOME in terms of workflow, design and stability (and also the fact it works right out of the box) but I would like to customize my desktop just a bit by changing something else than my wallpaper. Alice Mikhaylenko was working on implementing them but the last news she gave were that the other developers could not find any consensus. I hope they will ship this "feature" soon...
Not sure what you mean by the monitor catching up. But the simple thing with VRR is syncing the refresh rate of the monitor with the framerate from the game as long as the game is under the maximum refresh rate of the monitor. Otherwise you can lock it to the maximum refresh rate to avoid tearing or let it tear (which you probably won’t notice at such high refresh/frame rates). So the great thing about VRR is basically having the same latency as with tearing but avoid tearing at lower framerates. Where other syncing techniques would increase latency (along with other issues) thereby wasn't used and people just accepted tearing for lowest possible latency.
This is said like its a bombshell game winner but... ok? Id much rather high usability, reasonable defaults qnd decent customizability. Gnome sacrifices so much for "clean" asthetics and "uniformity"
@@BeefIngot name me one thing which you can do in any other desktop environment but cannot replicate same in gnome? We're talking about linux, DUH! Reason why Gnome game is better, because whatever Gnome sacrifices for "clean" anesthetics and "uniformity" can be added either manually or using already premade-easy-simple tools. But if you think you can bring Gnome like consistency in your KDE mess, yeah good luck with that.
@@wolfisraging Gnome actively states that removing options is a goal of theirs. Also in line with that, extensions dont count due to that because they want to eventually remove them (and they also break every update). Also, they first removed always visible window titles on the dock. Mass efficiency drop requiring extra presses to see them vs simply clicking the one you want. Very anti linux freedom
@@BeefIngot now name one desktop environment which doesn’t break some of its functionalities every new release… take a look at your KDE 6, it’s a hell right now, watch brodie’s video on it
Honestly, Gnome 46 is probably the first version of Gnome I would ever consider recommending. Not saying it was necessarily bad previously, but in order to get my personal recommendation, it simply wasn't there.
are they ever gonna add the option highlight hidden folders, like reducing the opacity of the icons like in Dolphin or Windows? I don't know how this is still not a feature
6:05 what do you mean with "it's much easier to change a folder icon"? You already could do this by simply clicking on the folder icon (in the properties dialog) They just added an icon, which is nice, but the function isn't new at all. Anyway great video as (nearly) always. Keep it going Nick!
You should read the releases notes (global search, better performance, the ability to display full dates rather than simplified ones, improved network discovery, copy/move detection over 4GiB file limit on FAT…) and all the bug fixes that are always welcome.
2 more years for Gnome 50 - Crazy to think about where we will be as it feels like progress is getting faster and faster. Can't wait for 46 to land in a few Days in openSUSE.
I just recently switched to daily driving gnome coming from kde, I'm really glad to see more improvement in these subtle areas as I tend to notice them more than I feel like most would
I wasn’t expecting Nautilus to have so many improvements! I was used to using ctrl + l but I always found it strange that I couldn’t just click the path to edit it. Glad to see them adding a lot more features while keeping the interface clean and simple.
They should make gnome highly customizable out of the box without extensions, this time is enough for Ubuntu developer to realize that gnome community loves customization
10:58 While the port to GTK4 is nice, I don't see why you should ever use GNOMEs System Monitor when Mission Center exists. Which is just better and fancier in every way.
I like that System Monitor lets you set the history time to big numbers like 10 minutes, as opposed to Mission Center. I let it run in the background and collect data, which helps me gain more insight into what's going on in my system. Mission Center is good too, but doesn't provide some of these niceties.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 I shape my whole computer experience to be what I want. That's the freedom Linux gives us. If you don't have any personal preferences you can use gnome
I am a KDE user but I follow GNOME and I used to use it on my other laptop (Plasma on my main PC) but I switched to Plasma on both... I love seeing GNOME improve and get better, I think they do great work even if I don't like their vision of removing customization or features
9:50 this makes sense to me; users who are using the visible navigation buttons are more likely to want visual feedback like that while browsing their images, while users who use the arrow keys may find the lack of visual feedback more useful (e.g. minute differences between photos, segments of an animation, etc.)
Still waiting for multiple hot corners, compact view mode for files in the file manager, DASH TO PANEL functionality, global menu integration for professional apps such as Gimp, Ardour
Paused at 8:33 Neat to see they added crosshairs; it's been a staple of Windows a11y for years like even the oldschool FreedomScientific MaGic. But, still no keyboard+mousewheel shortcut to zoom? seriously? XD bruhhhh... Overall, this is looking amazing so far - GNOME is what I would love to go for, but I do have to go back and pester them more about a11y apparently... eh x.x
Bet there's gonna be an extension that brings it back akin to "app menu is back" for Gnome 45 I'm kinda glad they moved it though, makes left side close button a bit more viable, although I bet it will still move the app name and make it ugly
So can I assume that there are no real changes to Gnome Calendar? I need biweekly appointments, and the last version I checked it’s still not possible.
Can someone tell me if there is a big difference between a 24 inch 1080p monitor vs 27 inch 1440p monitor when using gnome desktop?. Im running gnome with a 1080p 24 inch monitor and i find it somewhat annoying when using it for a couple of hours. I mean the fonts are very fuzzy, especially on gnome builder and gnome editor. Thx in advance.
Yess, antialiasing on gnome has been an issue for quite a long time, I switched back to windows after 1 week using gnome on 24" 1080p monitor, the only decent antialiasing DE will be KDE, pretty close to windows antialiasing, I would suggest using 4k for gnome
I've seen those notifications on college computers... Six months ago, no one opened the notifications to delete it. Although it will be a while before they decide to update their 18.04s and solve this lol
I wonder when will they fix RDP to not require a different user or your own user to not pe logged in. The Windows implementation of local and RDP sessions management is something Microsoft did super good.
What I would really care about is better touchscreen support. Currently, there is pretty much just one useful gesture (show the overview by swiping up with 3 fingers). If I use that gesture in Firefox, it opens the on-screen-keyboard instead... Speaking of the OSK, even that has bugs in languages other than English. Now that I think about it, I would love a video that compares the touch experience across different DE's... *wink*
Literally all I want from gnome after this update is to merge the "rounded window corners" tweak for apps that don't support libadwaita, It just completes the unified look so well.
Things I hope for in the future: Ability to limit battery charging; Show more battery information; integrate a file sending/receiving system, or the kdeconnect protocol within the configurations (there's a extension for this, and valent is coming); Ability to put a wallpaper in gdm (do not be confused with lock screen); move the online account panel to the users sub-panel, each user with their online accounts settings.
For battery charging, this is planned for version 47 (you can search for «power: Add support for battery charge limiting» by Jelle van der Waa). For GDM customization, have you tried the GDM Settings app?
@@Okki666 Bugger, I really want to believe "we" literally meant everyone, you burst my bubble ;). Jokes aside a simple F3 would make it actually SO much more functional.
@@Richo5566 I went to see the screenshots on the official site and got scared 😂 I definitely prefer minimalism and simplicity (as well as having an application for each task rather than a file manager that also does FTP client, music metadata editor and who knows what else). But it's a good thing it exists. It would be great to have a similar GNOME application, but in addition to Nautilus, which is probably the best choice for most people.
The Gnome team are putting the money to use! Now this might just be a bit of an in-between release, laying the groundwork for all the big features. But we need those sometimes. Seeing VRR finally arrive, in an experimental mode, makes me happy. From what I heard it's already in a pretty solid state and the experimental tag is more of a formality than anything. Hopefully HDR will come together soon as well so Gnome 47 or 48 can be the release with awesome support for even the fancies of displays.
what I want to see return is that the progress bar for file transfers stays visible when I change focus to another window. still, gnome 46 looks great so far.
I do not understand the situation around the variable refresh rates. How can it help reduce the frame rate problems I encounter now? I mean my current refresh rate is 144 and i have to use a variable in lutris to hack it in half (72). Normally i could set the refrash rate to 60 and the variable in lutris to 60 but the framerate problems are common (even with Vsync on). Therefore I do not understand how can the variable refresh rate help here if the existing solutions do not help.
If they could only fix notifications to not show up when I already done with it. Example: I receive email, it shows notification, I read email (no more unread emails) notification still up there, in dock there is still 1 next to icon, and only when I go manually to notifications and clear them, then it disappears.
@@TheLinuxEXPThe file picker will show thumbnails for files where they have already been generated (e.g, by visiting the directory in Nautilus), but if a thumbnail haven't been generated for a file, the file picker will just show the generic icon. 🤷♂
@@joseoncrack If you search for: "Gnome €1M in funding from the Sovereign Tech Fund" in a search engine, you should see more results about who gave them money and for what, including a page on Gnome's foundation itself.
