Goa Files 

She is a troll of worst order. Got personal experience of her trolling.

@@manojk3641 Her being a troll has got nothing to do with her points that she is making. And what trolling , maybe you are the troll here

@@manojk3641 I'm sure you deserved it

Pls don't say it's Christian barbarism, call it Portuguese barbarism... And don't spoil the harmony of our beautiful Goa..

@@mahavirk8197 They were Christians, weren't they? They did this whole thing in the name of their God, so call it what it is.

Yes. Sunlight is the best disinfectant

Totally true the -ve energy.

I agree with you brother. I would not visit them out of respect for the way Hindus have been treated by the bloody Portuguese.

I went inside the Church, I found protons there.

happy I didn't visit your blue dyed god temple, what was his name?? oh yeah ram😂

Hara! Hara! Mahadeva

Hindus have been suffering now for centuries, its has now become a common practice of Abrahamic religions to kill,Rape, & proselytize us, like its their god-given duty, and we Hindus got used to it.....But the thing has to come to an End, and i can see the beginning of that end, in next couple of decades.

When the Portuguese broke the temples can it be called Hindu temples? Fr. Victor Ferrao in his research paper said that the temples which were broken were not Hindu temples as Hinduism is understood in today’s context. “It important to assert that we have not come from Hinduism of today, but the then fragmented cults that today have been steadily assimilated into Hinduism of today,” Ferrao said, quoting noted historian Romila Thapar to back his treatise. “Though the temples that were demolished were not Hindu, but one(s) that belonged to different cults that have united into Hinduism of today the Hindu community is certainly carrying the pain of this false impression,” the paper reads.[43] Some of the Brahmins still remained in the old conquests and new Conquests where Catholics were dominant. That is because they made themselves distinct from other Hindus and enjoyed the privileges of the Portuguese Government. Therefore will it be right to say that the Portuguese tried to destroy the Hindu religion? Probably they did not know the difference between the Vedic religions and the other religions. Thus when the new converts were falling back to their old practices meant the cult practices other than just poojas, aartis and bhajans. Since the Portuguese did not know the difference, they just went clubbing every ritual practice as Hindu.

Is it so? Did the Hindus face or the converted Christians face my dear.

@@tysondacosta7802 both

@@jamfold2956 Incorrect, it was faced by the newly converted Christians!

Real stuff was exponentially worse. Torture was common in Europe, Middle East. Most victims in history of this horrid were Europeans.

@@RojaJaneman totally agree with that

@@ramdevchouhan2081 All the historians were Europeans/missionaries. I don’t think their feelings r worth anything in a historical account in this context. Just facts can b accepted here, if that.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 u r just spamming me everywhere. I’m gonna report u to RU-vid if u don’t stop

if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 you make videos and earn limelight too. What's wrong with that? Why everyone should go to Modi for every damn thing? If someone will make a movie on it people may or may not watch it, counter her on facts not by making stupid allegations.

@@maxpayne6625 Brother. What the guy above is saying is simple. You cannot ask someone to just apologize. If she wants she can do the necessary.

I get your sentiments. The belief system is important. The problem is monotheism is both irrational and illogical. My opinion is agnostic, but I am definitely Hindu. Religion is unhealthy for the society as a whole. If a single God made the world, why there is so much strife in the world? The monotheist answer is that God works mysteriously. I have a better answer: the one God is a nut. That is why, I find polytheism rational and acceptable, though I do not subscribe to it. A polytheist can say that there are many gods and each god pushes his/her own interest. A trife-torn world is inevitable. A plurality in the belief system is essential for the progress of the world. My interest is in working towards truth. As a pluralist, I say work towards truth, as unlike the monotheists, I do not have truth handed over to me.

FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

Good idea. Please continue to contribute to the podcast with time or material. Maybe volunteer to help with the Telugu translation, sponsor the podcast or just spread the word. Whatever we can all do.

South India is our pride and I say this as a North Indian. Must never feel left out. Guess having it dubbed in Telgu, Tamil, Malyalam would be kind of expensive. But if this content has that kind of reach, should be worth it.

if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

Tu karwacho re?

Certain facts here are exaggerated by shefali to cause a divide in peaceful communities of Goa. No records in archieves or central library about temples being broken by poetuguese.. if such torture was created onlt on hindus how come hindus formed majority during portuguese rule and even now. In that case hindus would be in minority number... all hindu passport holders abroad should revert back to their original nationality return and take assistance from Shefali. All these issues to magnify now instead of moving forward & progressive is work of an excellent govt & organization to just divide minority and majority masses & vote bank politics.

Dharmo rakshati rakshitaha

shefali posted a tweet last year. She grows custard apples, potatoes, tomatoes, chilli, perus, beans all brought by portugurse n dutch to India. Recently was her birthday, she posted a tweet having Aam ras of alphonso mangoes lol. Named after alphonso albuquere. All this hate is only for stiring communal disharmony.

When the Portuguese broke the temples can it be all called Hindu temples? Fr. Victor Ferrao in his research paper said that the temples which were broken were not Hindu temples as Hinduism is understood in today’s context. “It important to assert that we have not come from Hinduism of today, but the then fragmented cults that today have been steadily assimilated into Hinduism of today,” Ferrao said, quoting noted historian Romila Thapar to back his treatise. “Though the temples that were demolished were not Hindu, but one(s) that belonged to different cults that have united into Hinduism of today the Hindu community is certainly carrying the pain of this false impression,” the paper reads.[43] Some of the Brahmins still remained in the old conquests and new Conquests where Catholics were dominant. That is because they made themselves distinct from other Hindus and enjoyed the privileges of the Portuguese Government. Therefore will it be right to say that the Portuguese tried to destroy the Hindu religion? Probably they did not know the difference between the Vedic religions and the other religions. Thus when the new converts were falling back to their old practices meant the cult practices other than just poojas, aartis and bhajans. Since the Portuguese did not know the difference, they just went clubbing every ritual practice as Hindu.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 where is the hate here? Can't we talk about history? Trading and conquest are 2 different things. The exchange of spices and knowledge have been since millennia east india company came due to this remember? When American, Australian can accept that they committed mass genocides of their natives in conquest, when Japan can accept the genocides on China. Why can't we? Are you afraid of the truth? Do you think people will start killing?

shefali posted a tweet last year. She grows custard apples, potatoes, tomatoes, chilli, perus, beans all brought by portugurse n dutch to India. Recently was her birthday, she posted a tweet having Aam ras of alphonso mangoes lol. Named after alphonso albuquere. All this hate is only for stiring communal disharmony.

Shame on ur face for your comment FO!!!

@@whatsinaname8674 if her family was so closely affected by the portuguese rule, then why consume what they left back. Cashew nuts too

@@ramdevchouhan2081 am just amazed to see your IQ . Sir @Ramdev u pls give me list of indigenous veggies names

@@whatsinaname8674 arbi suran Green bananas ...methi, louki, sweet potatoes, dal matki etc... bajra wheat, ragi, jowar as whole grains..

You're right...Hate really gets us nowhere...It only keeps causing divisions...Unfortunately, Shefali has also said some pretty hateful stuff on twitter indirectly in the past...We should talk about the past, but then if we go down the route of grudges, everyone has some or the other grudges...Shudras have grudges over UC Hindus, Hindus over Islamic and Portuguese rule...How long will this continue? What is good about the current years though is that atleast among some, nationalist identity is forming..Like you said, you're proud of your Dharmic ancestors..There needs to be a common ground like that...Otherwise we'll forever keep getting sucked up in identity politics and those outside India who want to keep seeing us divided and weak will continue to get their wish...I'm in favour of nationalism, but an inclusive one...But nationalism has to be there, because for us it's about fighting for dignity in the world, and try to carve out sovereignty by not becoming anyone's complete puppet state..It's not like Western powers for whom nationalism is a taboo...Congress-Left type doesn't recognize this difference, that's why it's a problem...

Expecting some hindutvadis to not spread hatred against Indian christiand, hell even Indian catholics who themselves were victims of the Portuguese Inquisition, but when they speak about the inquistion, they make it seems like catholics were not the primary people who the Inquisition started for

@@battlerushiromiya651 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yerEnUQExKA.html

@@battlerushiromiya651 indian catholics are good community they are doing great so why to ahte?

@@hundikam175 Some Hindutvadis don't know the difference and use things like the inquisition to tarnish and target Christian communities elsewhere. It does not help that some members of the Christian community in other parts of the India, have brought dishonor to many christians, catholic and non catholic alike. Such things can easily be used yo hatred and for certain people who have had bad experiences witj christians the inquisition is a prime example to justify the worst attitudes Hope the goan catholics don't forget their legacy of being open about what happened in the past out of fear for what this information can be used for.

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Me too. Her knowledge about inquisition is great.

FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

Ghatia fotkirya. Only Portuguese blood are proud of it

No one is judging the present Portuguese population.

Some spread the news that he destroyed the culture but the letters prove that he actually learned the native languages, roamed with native people and ate their food. What about his clothings? Well he could not do anything about it because as a Priest it is demanded of every priest that they remain in their Cassock all the time. Certain liberties were rewarded only after the second Vatican Council (1962-1965). The inquisition was meant for wiping out Hindu religion and many were burnt at stakes and executed…how true is it? All the historians agree that the inquisition was not meant for any other but the Newly convert Christians who were falling back to their old practices. Francis Pyrard, a French traveller, was in Goa during the period July 1608 to January 1610. In his account of his travels he gives the following information of the Inquisition of Goa : The Indian Gentiles and Moors, of whatsover religion, are not subject to this Inquisition unless they have become Christians, and even then are not so rigorously dealt with as the Portuguese or New Christians from Portugal, or other Christians from Europe. But if peradventure an Indian, Moor, or Gentile inhabitant of Goa, had dissuaded or hindered another that was minded to become Christian, and that was proved against him, he would be punished by the Inquisition, as would be he who has caused another to quit Christianity; such cases often happen. The reason why they treat these Indian thus rigorously is that they suppose tluit they cannot be so steadfast in the faith as the old Christians ; also that it will prevent the rest from being led astray. For the same reason, too, they permit them to retain some of their petty Gentile and Mahomedan superstitions, such as not eating pork or beef, not drinking wine, and keeping to their former dress and ornaments, that is among men as well as women that are become Christians.[27] In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account of the death of her husband. Any person who causes such a woman to be burnt alive, or for that purpose render an advice or help, be he a relation of the woman who has burnt herself or not, shall be liable to the penalty of loss of his entire estate, one half to the person who denounces him and the other for the works of the home of Apostle St. Thomas, and im¬ prisonment for life.[28] There were forced conversions. Really? The Newly converts were forcefully converted and were returning to their old religion out of love for it…really?? Hindus were persecuted and temples were broken down. How true is it and Was it a regular event? This is a big question. In fact these are many questions. I formally thought of addressing it one by one but these are interconnected and I may repeat things again and again that’s why I thought of integrating them together. And once again I would like to remind that we need to move from interpreting history to interpreting history in its context and circumstances. We cannot interpret histories according to the mindset and concepts of today. Just some decades ago, some tribes of the African deserts were cannibals, they have recently stopped their taste for human meat. Can you still judge them? III.3.1. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS AS REGULAR PATTERN Well, it is true that Afonso Albuquerque used a very easy technique to get the people to be Christians. However, we should know that it was the part of agreement with the local Hindus and the Portuguese under Albuquerque when they sought his help to fight the Muslims. If they were not happy with it shouldn’t they have rather died for their religion instead of converting to new one? Bragging about the situation makes no sense. Therefore, what people like Shefali try to show a picture is that they were forced. Not at all, they had a choice and an agreement. If you ask me whether there forced conversions in times of St. Francis Xavier or if he forcefully converted anyone the I would give a certainly NO. Let me first begin by saying that in the year 1567 the Portuguese King had come out with the edict that no one should be forced to convert or there would be severe punishment. “ In the first place it is hereby laid down that it is not lawful to bring to our faith and baptism any person by force with threats and terror, because no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace. Just as a person if by his free will he succumbs to the temptations of the Devil, perishes, so also if he responds to the call and grace of God he saves himself. The unbelievers should be brought to the true faith by the example of our lives, preaching of the truth of our law and the confutation of their errors so that by recognition of these things, they will give up their lies, and be received in Christ, who is the way, the truth and the life. Those who wish to bring the unbelievers to the true faith must also seek to cultivate gentleness and goodness in order that they may win persons to Christ, not merely by their preachings but also by kindness, courtesy and service .”[29] We should evaluate this edict. It was not merely any other order with a selfish motive behind the mind of the King to protect trade but a deep theological discourse. First of all he quotes the Scriptures to draw his conclusion. no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace.

Very true

‘Done a lot of things’ what an understatement to justify your allegiance to your Portuguese lineage . Brits did not force conversions on Hindus.

@@theghostwhowalks2097 Yes, but they also Murdered a lot of innocents and there were certain periods in history, where a lot of people starved to death, due to Famines and Drought!

@@rohangracias1866 Agreed Churchill was the Butcher Of Bengal.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fGXQ_o05baQ.html Watch this please to understand Inquisition a little better

FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

your ram bakhts must regret for their sons for creating a rukus

@@ramdevchouhan2081 Thanks for the detailed information. The inquisition for whatever it was extremely inhuman by present standards. But cannot sit on judgement for by gone times. I would request you to read an autobiographical story "A daughter's story " by Maria khuto tra

Do know the difference between culture of a country and religion? You won't be even able to distinguish Christian in Kerala doesn't mean they're any less Christians

​​@@ramdevchouhan2081 It is a common practice for the Vatican to confer sainthood on christian missionaries who worked for spreading Christian faith by land grabbing, cheating, persecuting, maiming, torturing , raping, and killing people of other faiths. People who commit such inhuman atrocities and heinous crimes are considered saints and sainthood is conferred on such despicable people. Their memory is honoured by raising memorials for them.

Also portuguese left behind potatoes, tomatoes,chillies, beans perus, custard apples, bread. Today we all eat it and love it. We love our vada pav. Masala dosa, tomato dal, rasam,mirchi bhaji. Shefali grows all these products I'm her garden as well. But we need to support our farmers. Happus mangoes were grafted by portuguese named after Alphonso albuquere. Cashew nuts plants were brought by them too. U knew all this as a Goan?

@@ramdevchouhan2081 except pav, everything else which you mentioned was existed in goa way before, secondly that doesn't gives them right to forcefully convert people and torcher hindus. We Hindu's have given concept of 0 and many other maths concept so should we torcher others for using it??

@@ramdevchouhan2081 your comment is as stupid as your thinking. Come with real ID.

@@Rishky1607 you want to bring back sati? That was also abolished by British btw. Also the people who were converted seem like they would never convert back

@@user-ml4ps5cq3v Read Meenakshi Jain's book 'Sati'

@Alexios I Komnenos if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

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was shefali alive when the inquisition happened? Her uncle Mr Priolikar too was born 250 years after the inquisition. It will be like Chinese whispers yaar. 400 years back people will say that 65 people were tortured. Then 300 years back people will say 3000.. then 100 years back people will say 5000.. today shefali says 16000. . dude the portuguese were here not to play dandiya but to settle here ,volonise and loot spices, wealth whatever. They must have come for trade and spreading Christianity ...the missionaries came later for that... but whh were the hindu Kings of the nation not so strong n united to not allow such a thing to happen in the first place? Goa was being ruled by muslim King Adil Shah when the pirtuguese came. I bet he destroyed few temples too, converted many as well. Portugal is now a democracy..there are no kings. Modi has signed 11 deals with Portugal Post 2014. One is to build world class port museum somewhere near Kutch . Ask him , and bjp and shefali to ask the Pope for apologies towards GI according to the Jewish books, there was a prophecy that someone will be born to a young woman who would be a saviour to the entire world.. that's Jesus. According to his disciples he performed miracles, spoke about His father in heaven..and when he died , he resurrected. His tomb was empty. His resurrection too was predicted. Christians believe he was am incarnate of God in heaven. And now pray to him and follow his teachings. Rome accepted xtianity first( they were the main persecutors of Jesus and the Jews) and then they wanted to spread it around the world. The first Bible was written in Greek as most parts of the world were ruled by Greeks, so it was a language adopted by most.. then translated to hebrew, then other languages like English etc. But no where in the bible it says convert by force.. if any xtian has done it ,be it xavier.. he was wrong.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 I'm not sure what exactly your point is! Shefali Vaidya has supported her facts with documented evidence, it's important to know your history, it was a great presentation! Goa is much more than fun in the sun, beaches, holiday packages - more Indians should know the painful history of Hindus of Goa.

@@deeess9492 When it comes to Goa, Shefali Vaidya herself has narrated her story of how she is one of those to settlers who came to down to Goa. They belong to the community called Saraswat Brahmins. They used to live near river Saraswati and when it got dried they moved to Goa. But were they the first settlers in Goa? No! The aboriginal or indigenous people of Goa are the Kunbis, the Gauddi, the Kharvi, the Pariahs and other known as chamar, mhar etc. there were also some kshatriya class people from the Maratha region who settled in Goa.[49] The Saraswat Brahmin and the Kshatriya instituted the caste system in Goa and were often with war with the other communities. With their military power and their superiority of their religious claims since they knew to read and write, many of the native aboriginals were suppressed and exploited. Some continued with their ancestral religions and at the same time synchronised their won cults with the beliefs of the Brahminical religions. There are quiet few parts of Goa who do not celebrate Ganesh Chaturthi and Diwali. I was surprised to see this. It shows that there were many religions in Goa who are just classified as Hindus. Thus it can be suspiciously concluded that the Brahmins are now trying to reclaim their superiority which has been challenged by the coming of the Monotheistic religions like Islam and Christianity. St. Francis Xavier was known for his resentment for the caste system and treatment of the lower caste. That’s why the majority of the people of Goa who were once the lower class call him the Goyncho Saib.

@@deeess9492 shefali posted a tweet last year. She grows custard apples, potatoes, tomatoes, chilli, perus, beans all brought by portugurse n dutch to India. Recently was her birthday, she posted a tweet having Aam ras of alphonso mangoes lol. Named after alphonso albuquere. All this hate is only for stiring communal disharmony.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 I still don't get the point of your rather long winded statement! Although I can clearly see an anti-Brahmin & pro-colonizer/Christian stance - are you denying the horrific torture of Hindus in Goa by the Portugese? Anybody else who has a varying point of view from the presenter in this video is equally welcome to present their facts backed with evidence - why don't you provide a link to any source where viewers/readers interested enough can go check it out? At this point, although you do seem to have some knowledge on the subject, you're just sounding angry & confused!

They r in denial

They are unaware and dont care as they are Indians first and catholics later. Moreover than that, most catholics created something of value that does of have anything to do with what tue Portuguese did.

@@battlerushiromiya651 🤣🤣🤣🤣 denial again

@@mudrarakshasa Denial how? Catholics of goa are aware of what happened,many goan catholic sources like TR Dsouza are where she gets her information from. We don't hate Christianity or the Portuguese because our Christianity is not derived from Portuguese values but our own, and modern day Portuguese are not responsible for what their ancestors did.

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She has not written any book on inquisition.. however her uncle who was born 250 years after it wrote a book on the inquisition ;))

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FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

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U forgot huge marathi speaking Marathwada region under fanatic regime of NIZAM of Hyd princely state , now the part of MH .on BESIDES 15 AUG 1947 17 sep 1948 is the Independece day of Telangana @ 30 districts Marathwada 7 & 2 districts of KA . SARDAR PATEL HM OF INDIA DONE police action ,WHICH FREED TELENGANA , MARATHWADA 5 DISTRICTS NOW 7 & BIDER & GULBERGA I THINK FROM KA. Indian PM PVN from Telangana & Shakarao Chavan from NANDED Marathwada region HM under his cabinet ministry were good friends freedom fighters who fought against Razakars of NIZAM which was the special unit of police force created in @ 1940s , just to convert Hindus into islam of course by force & kidnapping ,raping, converting Hindu women . All of us know very well that in BRITISH INDIA , since 1937 ,MR Mohmmad Ali Jinnah preaident of Muslim leaguetook adamant stand that British should hand over Pakistan exclusively to British Indian Muslims , before quitting India. The last NIZAM of Hyd princely state ,already being a fanatic muslim was fascinated by MOHD JINN s idea of Pakistan , who wanted to merge his state in Pakistan in nearby future. But major obstacle to achieve this goal was that the state contained 80% + hindu population. Hence he planned to reduce Hindu population as less as to be comfortably added his state to Pakistan . Hence like storm troopers of Nazi Hitler in Germany ,he organised a special armed police force in @ 1940,who would convert or Hindus by threat & kidnapping raping & forcibly converting Hindu girls or women ,similar to Portuguese catholic or jesuites did in 1550 -1625 or what Muslims invaders rulers like Mughal or Adilshaha of VIJAPUR etc. These Razakars did extreme torture towards Hindus during 1940 to 1948 . But fortunately, Independent India from British got the HM as SARDAR Vallabhbhai Patel, who while merging @ 500 + princely states all over India ,asked the NIZAM of Hyd to get merged in India peacefully. But the fanatic NIZAM outrightly rejected the same ,boasting to fight with India with help of newly born Pakistan & other Muslim nations like Saudi Arebia ,the pioneer of 57 Islamic states. But NIZAM being under prevalence of strong majhabi superficial passion ,undermined Iron man HM SARDAR PATEL & faced the bitter consequences of being deserted from the state . Conclusion: The Inveders from west having Radical belief or faith in monoprophet salvatior Abrahamic concept had done tremendous damage to our multifaceted Hindu or sanatan culture during @ 712 AD TO TILL DATE UPTO LAST HALDWANI UTTARAKHAND INCIDENT. Jay Hind Vande Mataram

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The GOI should put forth the request... However Nehruvian Secularism is what makes the problem.

I think bihar govt should issue an apology to orissa govt for destruction of kalinga under ashoka

Not the pope the Portuguese government, as this was was done by tje Portuguese crown

@@shounakkossambe8109 had samrat Ashok's dinasty still been ruling, sure they should hv extended such apologia. But that's not the case so this attempt to draw parallels is illogical. Secondly, Maurya and Kalinga were fighting battles. Albeit the war was most brutal but there was no religious percecution of native peasants by aggresive foreign feudals. As against in this case, said institution still functions, the very same institution which conferred the sainthood to butchers - so apologia is due from them.

Modi should also appologize for all the Atrocities happening in the Country, happening in today date!!!

May god bless you🌞

Shefali is very influential. She knows Modi and all top brass. Rather than making videos, she should raise such issues, konkani, apologies for Goa inquisition with top brass etc

Can read 'The Goa Inquisition' by Anant Kakba Priolkar.

FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

was shefali alive when the inquisition happened? Her uncle Mr Priolikar too was born 250 years after the inquisition. It will be like Chinese whispers yaar. 400 years back people will say that 65 people were tortured. Then 300 years back people will say 3000.. then 100 years back people will say 5000.. today shefali says 16000. . dude the portuguese were here not to play dandiya but to settle here ,volonise and loot spices, wealth whatever. They must have come for trade and spreading Christianity ...the missionaries came later for that... but whh were the hindu Kings of the nation not so strong n united to not allow such a thing to happen in the first place? Goa was being ruled by muslim King Adil Shah when the pirtuguese came. I bet he destroyed few temples too, converted many as well. Portugal is now a democracy..there are no kings. Modi has signed 11 deals with Portugal Post 2014. One is to build world class port museum somewhere near Kutch . Ask him , and bjp and shefali to ask the Pope for apologies towards GI according to the Jewish books, there was a prophecy that someone will be born to a young woman who would be a saviour to the entire world.. that's Jesus. According to his disciples he performed miracles, spoke about His father in heaven..and when he died , he resurrected. His tomb was empty. His resurrection too was predicted. Christians believe he was am incarnate of God in heaven. And now pray to him and follow his teachings. Rome accepted xtianity first( they were the main persecutors of Jesus and the Jews) and then they wanted to spread it around the world. The first Bible was written in Greek as most parts of the world were ruled by Greeks, so it was a language adopted by most.. then translated to hebrew, then other languages like English etc. But no where in the bible it says convert by force.. if any xtian has done it ,be it xavier.. he was wrong.

U know are people 🙂 they will create a ride about this, especially the woke goans🙂 then it will become difficult to restore the goan culture

@@AdityaMishra-zn1pd who cares about the wokes? Just do what needs to be done.

@@siddheshshanbhag I am ready for the changes,fuck them

Paras, please!

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@Alexios I Komnenos if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

So does the temples that never allowed dalits to enter and killed so many, lol as if the pop would want to visit India. In fact MODI went to vistaar him not the other way around

if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

Why tf should pope apologize? Do you go and ask every hindu brahmin to apologize to a dalit?

@@user-ml4ps5cq3v Why pope apologized to native American then.

@@npatel7775 the Americans living in America aren't exactly Americans they're Europeans who settled there due to colonization, unlike India where colonizers have left

@@user-ml4ps5cq3v Oh! Now I have to spoon feed you. Pope is representative of the Catholic institute and in history you will find many institution head apologizing for wrong doing of their predecessors like Volkswagen apologized for using Jewish slaves, Catholic church apologized for Jewish pogrom, Japanese state apologizing for Nanjing Massacres etc.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 [["Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa)."]] With this comment, you seem to be a non-Goan. By your comment above, it looks like you are trying to disunite Hindus and Christians in Goa

@@suzy1in No I'm not. Just saying was Shefali alive when the inquisition happened? Her uncle Mr Priolikar too was born 250 years after the inquisition. It will be like Chinese whispers yaar. 400 years back people will say that 65 people were tortured. Then 300 years back people will say 3000.. then 100 years back people will say 5000.. today shefali says 16000. . the portuguese were here not to play dandiya but to settle here ,volonise and loot spices, wealth whatever. They must have come for trade and spreading Christianity ...the missionaries came later for that... but whh were the hindu Kings of the nation not so strong n united to not allow such a thing to happen in the first place? Goa was being ruled by muslim King Adil Shah when the pirtuguese came. I bet he destroyed few temples too, converted many as well. Portugal is now a democracy..there are no kings.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 then we wouldn't count it as a primary source. If her uncle wrote the book using other primary sources we will classify it below primary.

You support genocide and barbarism jst because portuguese were christians.........So whts wrong muslims supporting hamas so u r no better then a terrorist supporting killings of innocent lives.....

see how religion has worked on u.....ur supporting killings jst because portuguese were christians

FRANCIS XAVIER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INQUISITION? Let me first begin with our beloved St. Francis Xavier whom the Goans whether Catholic or Non Catholic alike in Goa (even Hindus) revere with such honor and call him Goycho Saib (Patron of Goa). It is true that St. Francis Xavier suggested that the inquisition be established in his letter to King John III dated 16 May 1546.[19] However it is interesting his letters were not published else where in the books so famously known for his letters but only appears in the writings of Silva Rego’s Documentação para a história das Missões do Padroado Português do Oriente: Índia, Lisboa, 1947-1958 .  “The second necessity for the Christians is that your majesty establish the Holy Inquisition, because there are many who live according to the Jewish law, and according to the Mahomedan sect, without any fear of God or shame of the world. And since there are many who are spread all over the fortresses, there is the need of the Holy Inquisition and of many preachers. Your majesty should provide such necessary things for your loyal and faithful subjects in India.” III.1.1. Evaluating the letter. First of all he mentions that the newly converts were living among the Jews and the Mohammedans and they were falling back to these religious laws to which they formerly belonged. He does not mention idolators, or Hindus or Pagans or Heathen practices. Secondly, no letter of his ever mentions the need of inquisition in Goa prior to 16 May 1546 nor after that. He wrote aletter to King John III on 20 January 1545 from Kochin, India but no mention of Inquisition. Yet another letter from Kochin on 20th January 1548 to King John III does not mention the inquisition. Another letter to king John III from Kochin on 28 January 1549. One more letter to King John III from Malacca in 1549. Yet another letter to King John III from Malacca on 23 June 1549. Letter from Goa to King John III on 10 April 1552. In all these letters there have never been any mention of the inquisition and in fact he never mentioned inquisition in letters written from mainland India (Kochin and Goa). He wrote only one letter from Amboyna and mostly he visited Amboyna only once. Whereas he visited Kochin several times and was often in Goa. There are more than one letter from Goa and Kochin. None of them mention the need of Inquisition[20]. The letter in which this mention is recorded was in fact written from Aboyna, Malacaus. And he refered to it as India.[21] So what is this place? Amboyna Malacaus is modern day Ambona Island of the Maluku Island districts of Indonesia. Undeniably the presence of the Jews and Muslims there was the most populous. As Goa was considered to be the capital of the Portuguese colonies of the East and every place they discovered was considered to be India, hence the modern name Indo-nesia. Its colonial name was “Indian Islands.”[22] Therefore there is raised a question and doubt, did St. Francis Xavier suggest Inquisition in India as such in particular Goa? Or did he mean specifically Amboyna Malacaus and not any other territory? In his previous and later letters as well he had specifically mentioned Goa…why did he not mention it in this letter?

Its ironic to have appeasing minds who are ignorant of their past :)

Also portuguese left behind potatoes, tomatoes,chillies, beans perus, custard apples, bread. Today we all eat it and love it. We love our vada pav. Masala dosa, tomato dal, rasam,mirchi bhaji. Shefali grows all these products I'm her garden as well. But we need to support our farmers. Happus mangoes were grafted by portuguese named after Alphonso albuquere. Cashew nuts plants were brought by them too. U knew all this as a Goan?

@@ramdevchouhan2081 We should be alive first to eat these .

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if Shefali wants she can personally tell Modi or some minister about this and ask them for Portugal to apologise or the Pope to apologise.. she meets the big people, politicians etc. What is she waiting for? And why just make videos and earn limelight and few bucks on it.

How longer are you going to live in delusion? This whatsboutery is too funny 😂😂 Ok -caste system So? Does that change the fact about what your Portuguese masters did? Does this justify the killings of 10000s of local people ? We'll talk about caste when needed to. This conversation is specifically about the Portuguese inquisition, So stop trying to hide the past of your masters ... The movie ARTICLE-15 talks about caste system, good cause we indians care enough to acknowledge and change .. Unlike you clowns , who deny it straight up and pretend like it never happened , and even if it happened deluded idiots like you go go every length and breadth to justify it with any BS in the world.. With is too funny watching you people defend it 😂😂

Any one that shows the truth of history that is negative about anyone else except Hindus is hindutva propaganda? Lmao that's just a cope mechanism 😂

@@bababistril Quite the contrary. The Hindutvwadis are pretending to be holier than thou and promoting the divide and rule supremacist agenda of the ruling dispensation. Before they look at the speck in their brothers eye they need to examine the LOG in their own. Do Read Jotirao Phules treatise on Hindutva called SLAVERY. The evils of Brahmanism. It has a whole chapter dedicated to the evil deeds of Parashurama who the Hindutvwadis propose be revered as the real Goencho Saheb instead of the far less evil Francis Xavier.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 you should ask a quesiton to yourself , why did you choose X nity over Sanatan Dharma ? if you think you are skilled in X nity and think its the ultimate truth then you should also study Sanatan Dharma Ved , Upnishad , Shruti - Smritis , Tantra , Puranas and compare it before assuming you know what god is. Cheers

@@Vayu-Putra u should read divine harmony by Aravindadaksha menon... Puranas forget.. God's exchanging wives, marrying each other , beheading esch other etc etc

@@ramdevchouhan2081 thats the problem with peoole like you, Presume you understood everything by reading someones book. Your small mind shows you are not an intellect to talk to about the creation, universer, science, space,anatomy,anthology,astronomy, math , physics , matter, which is just a friction of knowledge Sanatan Dharma has given to the world through it . good luck boy 🙏

@@ramdevchouhan2081 you got some issues.

@@ramdevchouhan2081 you need to see a good doctor and once you are cured (hopefully) learn how things used to be 2000 years ago in Bharat.

Bravo bravo bravo

Hahaha

@mahavir k Befiting reply.

Classic rice bag reply

Some spread the news that he destroyed the culture but the letters prove that he actually learned the native languages, roamed with native people and ate their food. What about his clothings? Well he could not do anything about it because as a Priest it is demanded of every priest that they remain in their Cassock all the time. Certain liberties were rewarded only after the second Vatican Council (1962-1965). The inquisition was meant for wiping out Hindu religion and many were burnt at stakes and executed…how true is it? All the historians agree that the inquisition was not meant for any other but the Newly convert Christians who were falling back to their old practices. Francis Pyrard, a French traveller, was in Goa during the period July 1608 to January 1610. In his account of his travels he gives the following information of the Inquisition of Goa : The Indian Gentiles and Moors, of whatsover religion, are not subject to this Inquisition unless they have become Christians, and even then are not so rigorously dealt with as the Portuguese or New Christians from Portugal, or other Christians from Europe. But if peradventure an Indian, Moor, or Gentile inhabitant of Goa, had dissuaded or hindered another that was minded to become Christian, and that was proved against him, he would be punished by the Inquisition, as would be he who has caused another to quit Christianity; such cases often happen. The reason why they treat these Indian thus rigorously is that they suppose tluit they cannot be so steadfast in the faith as the old Christians ; also that it will prevent the rest from being led astray. For the same reason, too, they permit them to retain some of their petty Gentile and Mahomedan superstitions, such as not eating pork or beef, not drinking wine, and keeping to their former dress and ornaments, that is among men as well as women that are become Christians.[27] In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account of the death of her husband. Any person who causes such a woman to be burnt alive, or for that purpose render an advice or help, be he a relation of the woman who has burnt herself or not, shall be liable to the penalty of loss of his entire estate, one half to the person who denounces him and the other for the works of the home of Apostle St. Thomas, and im¬ prisonment for life.[28] There were forced conversions. Really? The Newly converts were forcefully converted and were returning to their old religion out of love for it…really?? Hindus were persecuted and temples were broken down. How true is it and Was it a regular event? This is a big question. In fact these are many questions. I formally thought of addressing it one by one but these are interconnected and I may repeat things again and again that’s why I thought of integrating them together. And once again I would like to remind that we need to move from interpreting history to interpreting history in its context and circumstances. We cannot interpret histories according to the mindset and concepts of today. Just some decades ago, some tribes of the African deserts were cannibals, they have recently stopped their taste for human meat. Can you still judge them? III.3.1. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS AS REGULAR PATTERN Well, it is true that Afonso Albuquerque used a very easy technique to get the people to be Christians. However, we should know that it was the part of agreement with the local Hindus and the Portuguese under Albuquerque when they sought his help to fight the Muslims. If they were not happy with it shouldn’t they have rather died for their religion instead of converting to new one? Bragging about the situation makes no sense. Therefore, what people like Shefali try to show a picture is that they were forced. Not at all, they had a choice and an agreement. If you ask me whether there forced conversions in times of St. Francis Xavier or if he forcefully converted anyone the I would give a certainly NO. Let me first begin by saying that in the year 1567 the Portuguese King had come out with the edict that no one should be forced to convert or there would be severe punishment. “ In the first place it is hereby laid down that it is not lawful to bring to our faith and baptism any person by force with threats and terror, because no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace. Just as a person if by his free will he succumbs to the temptations of the Devil, perishes, so also if he responds to the call and grace of God he saves himself. The unbelievers should be brought to the true faith by the example of our lives, preaching of the truth of our law and the confutation of their errors so that by recognition of these things, they will give up their lies, and be received in Christ, who is the way, the truth and the life. Those who wish to bring the unbelievers to the true faith must also seek to cultivate gentleness and goodness in order that they may win persons to Christ, not merely by their preachings but also by kindness, courtesy and service .”[29] We should evaluate this edict. It was not merely any other order with a selfish motive behind the mind of the King to protect trade but a deep theological discourse. First of all he quotes the Scriptures to draw his conclusion. no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace.

Some spread the news that he destroyed the culture but the letters prove that he actually learned the native languages, roamed with native people and ate their food. What about his clothings? Well he could not do anything about it because as a Priest it is demanded of every priest that they remain in their Cassock all the time. Certain liberties were rewarded only after the second Vatican Council (1962-1965). The inquisition was meant for wiping out Hindu religion and many were burnt at stakes and executed…how true is it? All the historians agree that the inquisition was not meant for any other but the Newly convert Christians who were falling back to their old practices. Francis Pyrard, a French traveller, was in Goa during the period July 1608 to January 1610. In his account of his travels he gives the following information of the Inquisition of Goa : The Indian Gentiles and Moors, of whatsover religion, are not subject to this Inquisition unless they have become Christians, and even then are not so rigorously dealt with as the Portuguese or New Christians from Portugal, or other Christians from Europe. But if peradventure an Indian, Moor, or Gentile inhabitant of Goa, had dissuaded or hindered another that was minded to become Christian, and that was proved against him, he would be punished by the Inquisition, as would be he who has caused another to quit Christianity; such cases often happen. The reason why they treat these Indian thus rigorously is that they suppose tluit they cannot be so steadfast in the faith as the old Christians ; also that it will prevent the rest from being led astray. For the same reason, too, they permit them to retain some of their petty Gentile and Mahomedan superstitions, such as not eating pork or beef, not drinking wine, and keeping to their former dress and ornaments, that is among men as well as women that are become Christians.[27] In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account In fact there are evidences that the Portuguese brought about certain reforms in the society which the Hindu community had imposed on others and oppressed the lower class and women. For example the Portuguese dealt strictly with Sati. “ No Hindu woman, living in the territories of Salsete or Bardez, or in this island of Goa or any other island annexed thereto, shall bum herself alive on account of the death of her husband. Any person who causes such a woman to be burnt alive, or for that purpose render an advice or help, be he a relation of the woman who has burnt herself or not, shall be liable to the penalty of loss of his entire estate, one half to the person who denounces him and the other for the works of the home of Apostle St. Thomas, and im¬ prisonment for life.[28] There were forced conversions. Really? The Newly converts were forcefully converted and were returning to their old religion out of love for it…really?? Hindus were persecuted and temples were broken down. How true is it and Was it a regular event? This is a big question. In fact these are many questions. I formally thought of addressing it one by one but these are interconnected and I may repeat things again and again that’s why I thought of integrating them together. And once again I would like to remind that we need to move from interpreting history to interpreting history in its context and circumstances. We cannot interpret histories according to the mindset and concepts of today. Just some decades ago, some tribes of the African deserts were cannibals, they have recently stopped their taste for human meat. Can you still judge them? III.3.1. NO FORCED CONVERSIONS AS REGULAR PATTERN Well, it is true that Afonso Albuquerque used a very easy technique to get the people to be Christians. However, we should know that it was the part of agreement with the local Hindus and the Portuguese under Albuquerque when they sought his help to fight the Muslims. If they were not happy with it shouldn’t they have rather died for their religion instead of converting to new one? Bragging about the situation makes no sense. Therefore, what people like Shefali try to show a picture is that they were forced. Not at all, they had a choice and an agreement. If you ask me whether there forced conversions in times of St. Francis Xavier or if he forcefully converted anyone the I would give a certainly NO. Let me first begin by saying that in the year 1567 the Portuguese King had come out with the edict that no one should be forced to convert or there would be severe punishment. “ In the first place it is hereby laid down that it is not lawful to bring to our faith and baptism any person by force with threats and terror, because no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace. Just as a person if by his free will he succumbs to the temptations of the Devil, perishes, so also if he responds to the call and grace of God he saves himself. The unbelievers should be brought to the true faith by the example of our lives, preaching of the truth of our law and the confutation of their errors so that by recognition of these things, they will give up their lies, and be received in Christ, who is the way, the truth and the life. Those who wish to bring the unbelievers to the true faith must also seek to cultivate gentleness and goodness in order that they may win persons to Christ, not merely by their preachings but also by kindness, courtesy and service .”[29] We should evaluate this edict. It was not merely any other order with a selfish motive behind the mind of the King to protect trade but a deep theological discourse. First of all he quotes the Scriptures to draw his conclusion. no one comes to Christ by faith unless brought by the Celestial father with voluntary love and prevenient grace.