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Goat Mix: Our New Oyster Mushroom Substrate

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With shortages that have been happening, growers all over have been looking for hardwood alternatives for growing mushrooms. We’ve found an awesome one; our new blend, which we’ve dubbed Goat Mix. Our oysters are loving it, and our yields are increasing.
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@OakandSpore 3 года назад

I've been using pine for years, specifically Pinus Radiata. From a 4.8kg bag I'll usually get upwards of a 1kg first flush.

@lkuniverse3763 2 года назад

Can I use kiln dried pine?

@Shroomareala 3 года назад

You can pasteurize just straw pellets, direct hot water in the bag, they work really well for oysters.

@lindalbonomo 3 года назад

Hell yeah but not with the soy hulls

@Shroomareala 3 года назад

@@lindalbonomo yes but they still produce well

@JackGilbertJr 3 года назад

True, but supplementation will increase yield. For a home grower it might Not matter.

@waynegreenway5445 9 месяцев назад

Supplementing with bran and what quantity?

@matthewhunt4670 3 года назад

Hi been trying masters v goat v 50% soy 25% hardwood 25% straw pellets mix so far the latter growing quicker and Best yield

@INSANEinCHRIST 2 года назад

The "50% soy 25% hardwood 25% straw pellets mix" for what mushroom species?

@jebatevrana 3 года назад

Best kind of information. Much appreciated.

@kicknadeadcat 3 года назад

I’ve had great results with Aspen pet bedding chips. My grey dove oyster eat that stuff up. I have even tried it a half dozen times without sterilization. Nothing, not even hot water. No problems. I have a grey block right now that is 10 days old that tomorrow I am putting in the grow room. Covered in mycelium. I buy 56 liters off Amazon under $20 with shipping. The weight of my blocks are not as heavy but the volume is the same. Large flushes. When I am looking for fast turnaround with oyster mushrooms that what I use. I also started adding some in with my masters mix. I’ll see how that goes. Hoping to get even more flushes with the addition.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

Nice!

@nathanpriddis412 3 года назад

How much does the 56L weigh? Petco advertises this size also, but not sold by weight.

@bartendersunny1 2 года назад

Awesome! How did it go?

@FreshfromtheFarmFungi 3 года назад

cool! thanks for the info as always! MUSHLOVE

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

Thanks Gary!

@The33DegreeVegan 3 года назад

Always love your willingness to share what others hodl as their trade secrets. What type of grass is the straw?

@SethFischer 3 года назад

This is wheat straw

@wck2318 3 года назад

Hi there from Wales UK. Again a very interesting and formative video, I'm doing loads of research at the moment and planning to make mushroom growing my hobby from this summer. again thanks for the info and keep these videos coming, many thanks mate.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

Absolutely, thanks for watching!

@mtnbkr5478 3 года назад

I had the idea to use straw pellets as well, but despite living in a wheat-growing area, I can't find any. Awesome that the Bear's head works on softwood, I haven't had a chance to experiment with substrates for hericiums yet, but that's all that's available for heaters here; I've been using smokers' pellets for my oysters which is costing me more than I'd like.

@timmyopally 3 года назад

You tried all the feed stores nearby? If there be horses there be straw !

@mtnbkr5478 3 года назад

@@timmyopally I'm going to keep looking, but I live in a city, so finding a lot of that stuff is more challenging. I have rabbits also, so I was going to do some experimenting using rabbit feed and fruit wood mix, and see how that will work in a pinch. I may just start ordering masters mix on Amazon. I don't grow enough to order pallets of the stuff.

@chaitanyadubey2914 3 года назад

We use straw here in India to grow oysters and they have much faster incubation than anything.

@Aztecorum16 3 года назад

The 'straw boogers' hit me right in the feels 😆

@jidun9478 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing this really vital information, you are a good man.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

You are welcome

@thekarmafarmer608 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with everybody. That`s really cool of you friend. Happy New Year to you all over there.

@pyroparrish2783 3 года назад

Seth @mushroommedia is getting some shout outs this last week. Its cool though cause we share the same first name hahaha

@InventorGadget 2 года назад

Yes yes we do vant to know! Thank you!

@patrioticmisinformation7184 3 года назад

Awesome video. Really helpful. I like your style a lot. You keep things perfectly simple.

@tyroneswift4004 3 месяца назад

Id like to know more about the pine mix.

@vincecombla7628 3 года назад

Awesome news !

@waltwalters4144 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

@sayuas4293 Год назад

The difficult ingredient for me to get here is soy hull pellets, they only sell it in huge bulk to big farming companies here.

@ToothlessInKentucky 2 года назад

I always thought that straw was a great way to go. Has anyone done direct lc to a coco coir based mix? I heard some say that coco coir was a winner for direct inoculation as well... but it's not verified. Thanks for sharing your research.

@BobbyJpure 3 года назад

Do you use the same water ratio as masters mix for the 50% straw? 60% I saw someone asked this question earlier but no answer. Or is this y’alls little secret!!

@nathanpriddis412 3 года назад

I used straw pellet. Was happy with it until alder came available and I switched intending to have one substrate usable for all types. The straw and alder both where later discontinued. Now looking at corn cob pellet out if desperation.

@k.elysee6527 10 месяцев назад

What about adding in Wheat Bran as an extra supplement for the Goat sub bags?

@12345shipreck 3 года назад

Hey mate, Im in the UK and am planning to start a gourmet mushroom farm after I have graduated from uni, would love if you could do more business related videos like how you find people to supply to and such.

@aled721 3 года назад

Hey where abouts are you? Looking at the samw

@12345shipreck 3 года назад

@@aled721 around the manc area hbu?

@aled721 3 года назад

@@12345shipreck Herefordshire

@nashdaflash 2 года назад

Do you know the recipe substrate for beech mushrooms

@Robert-dh3xg 2 года назад

Great stuff

@mikejeannotte6642 2 года назад

Same relative ratios hardwood to straw pellets to water?

@rachellinderman5219 3 года назад

Mycelium Emporium has a straw shiitake lc

@nathanpriddis412 3 года назад

Have you tried that verity?

@andrewduggan6808 3 года назад

@@nathanpriddis412 I tried a UK versatile straw strain and ok.

@Dunc0069 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. A true gentleman. One question I have but maybe doesn't matter is what type of straw? Is it wheat or Barley I would guess wheat but not sure. I still have not been able to find soy pellets up here in this part of Canada. So may have to do some experimenting to see if something else would work.

@cislo5 3 года назад

hello Andrew, do you use pellets (all types) that are graded for burning? or is there another "type" that is suitable for growing stuff and such (maybe that there is no chemicals, pesticides etc.). Thanks a lot for your content, its great help!!!

@mejiaraoul 3 года назад

Hey Andrew! Is the pine mix 50-50 with soy hull like the GOAT and master’s mix?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

That's it!

@sidneybooher7325 3 года назад

I'm trying to learn all I can so I hope this doesnt sound too uneducated, but when you inoculate with LC straight to the goat mix or masters mx, this eliminates the need for grain spawn, correct?

@carlosbarragan6729 3 года назад

Yes

@itseybitseyspider7645 3 года назад

Since you are now using straw substrates. You might as well start raising egg laying chickens. A varied diet with bugs and vegetations makes very healthy eggs. You may be better to partner up with organic chicken egg layer. Good luck with the spent substrates.

@tyee.5023 8 месяцев назад

Can I feed spent grain spawn to my goats?

@bartendersunny1 2 года назад

Could you please share your recipe for oyster substrate by weight or %? New and trying for the 1st time. Wondering if gypsum or bran is added here too and if so, how much? Thanks for the videos, you're so helpful!

@JoshuaMarshPPG 3 года назад

If you want someone to come on, I would love to. Still small but growing everyday. Haha see what I did there. 😂

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

Yeh dude, we can put you on. And yes, I saw it. 😆

@vonries 3 года назад

I searched all four sites, but found no results for straw pellets. Where can I get them?

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@john-smith. 3 года назад

Straw is unfortunately a heavily sprayed crop (off label more so now for harvesting, by stiffening the stalks)...especially with round up/Bayer/Monsanto. So in essence more heavy metals, and toxins will end up in the fruiting body, unless you can find unsprayed crops...Hardly Organic, but very profitable for the grower.

@andrewduggan6808 3 года назад

I looked into chemical sprays this in the UK - it's bad (roundup and chlormequat for crop lodging). Easy to get wheat straw pellets in the UK but often treated as used for animal bedding - silver, sodium, sulphur, phospheric acid :-P etc etc. Two brands I tested were a waste of spawn, pellets, and time. But there is good stuff out there - just a matter of finding it. I am hoping some of the biofuel straw pellets are not treated as much.

@TheVerspagets Год назад

Hi Andrew, do you pasteurize or sterilize the goat mix? And what's the ratio? 50/50? How much water do you add? Thx and greetings from the other side of the ocean. Mark

@duanefouche378 3 года назад

Been thinking of using Straw pellets as a main source recently too as I find Straw to be pretty messy and labour intensive. What would the ratio of water to straw pellets be though (eg: 1L water to 1KG pellets), and how much substrate would you realistically get from say 10kg of straw pellets? Would plain straw pellets work too?

@sergiojacome 3 года назад

Nice.... What type of straw? And good for King Oyster? Thanks for sharing...

@todd5438 3 года назад

Great vid! Does this mix need to be sterilized in a pressure cooker or simply pasteurized with hot water?

@JamasSeguro 6 месяцев назад

Is this still viable with straw pellets appearing to cost $3-4x.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 5 месяцев назад

Yes, substrate costs are rarely anything compared to labor costs, and compared to the value you get out of the mushrooms at the end.

@lindalbonomo 3 года назад

You may have just changed the game.

@wande.r 3 года назад

With the Goat mix, does this mean you can lime sterilise successfully without contams ? Or bag em and sterilise in a steamer?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 3 года назад

You are still supplementing it so you'll still want to pasteurize.

@waynegreenway5445 9 месяцев назад

What % is your supplementation? Bran I would assume

@tomstamos1491 3 года назад

For shitake sorgum straw and sugarcanes straw is better than sawdust not weat straw

@Dimrain13 8 месяцев назад

You still running this mix?

@Ras_shewa 3 года назад

Sir i have a question I have 6 tone of Eucalyptus sawdust it is hard wood sawdust so with what supplement i get more yield and what is the impact if i compost it for 7 days or just use it