"I did not think you should have to." "Thanks." "Also if I'd put you through half of what I went through, your mother would have skinned me alive and worn me as a coat."
Even though Heimdall, Thor, Odin and the majority of the Aesir were the big draw and highlight for me, Kratos and Atreus’s relationship is the backbone of this game. They touched so many emotional beats and notes with them. I cried, laughed, cheer and was proud of them. Also Mimir is the best Uncle ever. Maybe video should be labeled Kratos, Atreus and Mimir, best father, son and uncle moments.
@saltytodd For the sake of not writing a three page article like response😄, I’ll just go into a few cliff-notes. Despite the length of the game, it felt rush in some parts like the climax and Freya’s character arc. I personally wanted more Aesir and more battles with them. I think we should have fought Thor at least three times and Heimdall twice. And the game overall felt like two games in one, which depending on one’s perspective and how the game is produced. Can be both a good thing and a bad thing. But I still have major love for the game and why I get the technical reasons behind not wanting to make the Norse Era a trilogy. I really think they should have.
42:54 This. This was a major highlight for me. I know Kratos' stories never end well but the fact that Atreus still fell asleep peacefully and the fact that you can see Kratos have this honest to God father moment of telling his son a bedtime story and having the player and him both realize that this is a rare safe moment where he is allowed to be a proud father to his beautiful son is just so emotional and happy and AH. I just- I need more of Kratos and Atreus actually being happy. No death, no fear, no running, no fights, no looming incoming apocalypse, no Stupid-ass god's being assholes, just. Father. And son.
Especially because this was the calm before the storm. Kratos having this fear not for himself… but his son and if Atreus will survive this battle… this war of all wars. Ragnarok
An extra layer to this is that in Greek Mythology, Hypnos, the God of Sleep, has a twin brother. That twin brother? Thanatos, the personification of peaceful death, the kind of death that looks like a dreamless slumber.
7:32 “if you don’t want him walking away from you, then smarten up, and walk with him” Mimir is nothing less than my favorite character because of how important he is in terms of pushing Kratos to accept and love Atreus for who he truly is
What I love the most about this game is that it’s very clear that this is the same Kratos we played as in Greece but now he has grown so much. The Norse games have done nothing to erase his past and it is still a part of him. Despite everything he has done and everything he has been through he has come so far and has finally become a better man. A good man even. Proving so many people wrong and finally earning a happy ending.
there's also a moment in Helheim during the Garm quest which wasn't shown where Atreus thanks Kratos for coming along to fix the problem and Kratos responds, "I'm am your father, I will always help, if I am able."
For me, one of the biggest moments that showed how much Kratos has grown was: 14:11 Atreus: “You don’t even believe in any of it!” Kratos: “And still, I follow!” ❤
Just realized. At 16:45, Atreus actually knocked back Kratos with his strength. Could be that Kratos was caught off guard, but it is neat seeing Atreus' strength growing as he does.
Seeing Kratos feel such sadness, knowing his son will be going to war tomorrow really drove home the entire story. Kratos has a second chance to be better. And now that he has it, he doesn't want to lose it. This entire story for GoW: Ragnarok is pretty much about some things, you have to let go of. The death of Fenrir (even though he became a big wolf later on), Brok dying, Freya finally forgiving Kratos and allowing her son to rest in peace.
Theyd probably be proud, glad he was able to achieve happiness and to have family again after he was robbed of it back in Greece, and nearly robbed of it in GoW4.
39:03 I love this moment. The whole game is about Astreus and Kratos dealing with grief- but this is the first time Kratos actually takes a moment to talk about it. And helps Astreus face it.
Seeing all the comments I just love hearing what people loved from the game, but with me there’s so much to say about both kratos and Atreus. We all gotta admit the best moments in either tv show, movie franchise and yes video game franchise is when we see the character development of either the main character or even the characters included in the story. Kratos love for his son and his path to protect him made me cry because right when I started started playing the game that’s a week after I lost my father to liver failure, and in a way the game helped me cope with my fathers death. I enjoyed every moment of the game and with the epic final battle and the music I was so satisfied with it. A fathers love for a son is one of a kind, rest in peace dad just like Kratos was to Atreus, you were my hero to me
He lost a daughter long ago but with his son, he knows that he has to let him walk his path. That is something he never got with her. The only things we saw were making her flute, giving her an ambrosia flower to cure her skin disease when she was born, and forsaking her in the fields of Elysium to save her soul.
17:48 this scene still tears me up to this day. The fact that Atreus responded to Kratos’ question by hugging him and then Kratos hugging him back was simply beautiful. Also, the fact that Kratos hugged Atreus again after letting go and his facial expressions during the entire scene, I just can’t stop admiring the magnificent body language transmitted in this game. They really nailed it with this game
It's so strange having played the first three God of War games and seeing Kratos like this... It's like I watched a child grow up to be a honorable and strong man
15:25 Love that Kratos holds up Mimir for that. It shows how much Kratos values his opinions and how much he cares for him. That he's willing to let this dismembered head scold his son as well.
A really good moment that stands out even among all this is Kratos asking “What do I call you?” Just pure acceptance of his son no matter what path he chooses to take, Loki or Atreus.
I don’t think he meant it like that. I think he was really asking “can I still call you my son?” It was not pure acceptance, it was asking Atreus if *Atreus* thought his actions were justified.
When Atreus tells Kratos to start thinking like a general, The no kratos yells and the pain in his eyes, flashbacks to what he did in the past and him losing his family, idk it just hits different
It was both cool but it frustrated the hell out me. Atreus just wanted to keep his dad safe like how Kratos wanted to keep him safe. He doesn’t want his dad to die.
I know people hate altreus for his attitude. But he’s just a kid who’s very scared of losing his dad. Grown mature adults would also act rash and make mistakes when there scared of losing someone close to them. So imagine a kids feelings
Sappy story, but I remember back in 2005 my dad taking me to circuit city to play the OG game’s demo on the TVs in the electronics ( I didn’t have a ps2 ) so two weeks later I come home from school to see my first ever ps2 with god of war sitting beside it. This has been one of my favorite franchises since. To have this story be of such magnitude between a son and father feels like this has come full circle.
I have good memories of my father taking me to Circuit City as well. One of them being when he bought my Wii. I also had a ps2 that he said we bought another we went there but I have no real memory of it. How I’ve to cherish those memories, those consoles both had a huge impact on my childhood.
There are so many good lines in this video, they really knock it out of the park giving us an older wiser kratos, one that is both tired but energized, and trying to do what he couldn't before.
I think Kratos really redeemed himself during his journey in God Of War Ragnarok and he became a good god who fought for justice instead of vengeance and saved all of the nine realms from being wiped out from existence with his son by his side. They worked really well together up until the very end of their journey! I loved every minute of God Of War Ragnarok too!
Seeing all this makes me wish i had a father like Kratos, not being the strongest most badass there is, but in the sense that he would help me grow into a good man.
I agree, I love the story but the gameplay I surprisingly prefer God of War 4, not in every way you can imagine there are some things I like from this game...... like the puzzles
The line if "do what is necessary Not because it is written" has change my views on fate and prophecy. Kratos makes it clear that YOU have to choose what comes next, not because some future told you so. Atreus says "he never gets to choose," which is a double sided coin. He is choosing the prophecy and that he himself isnt making the choice, the prophecy is. Kratos understands this and even in the end, he chooses to be better. "You feel their pain because that is who you are" Kratos makes an uncharacteristic choice in order for Atreus. His love for him is the reason why is feels the need to fall into his old ways. He cares about him to the point where Thor, Heimdal, Odin and even buldur in the first game mention Atreus, Kratos loses it. He cares more about Atreus than his own fate so in turn, Kratos was right. Choose your own path, because you made the choice. He chose to love Atreus and by giving him that last piece at the end, they forged a new path.
My favourite character build up was probably Atreus from being a child, young and reckless. To now being the Champion of the Jötnar, responsible and strong.
This is the first God of War game I ever played and I only knew some things about the older God of War games. So in hindsight I went into this game not knowing what was going on or what to expect. But I quickly grew attached to the father-son relationship between Kratos and Atreus.
35:56 Also another great callback, even if it’s a more sad one this time. Ugh. I’ve felt Atreus’ regret after losing someone you hold dear. Though in my case, it was more like wondering if I didn’t spend enough time with them.
Am I the only one who has noticed how much more physical affection there is between them in this one? Like in 2018 it took the whole game before Kratos could reach out and pat Atreus on the shoulder. In this one there's a lot more of it.
i knowwww it's so heartwarming!!!! a lot of series sometimes end up having characters relearn the same lessons over and over, making the progress from previous installments feel meaningless, so it was good to see that none of what Kratos and Atreus built in the previous game had broken down
I love Kratos and Atreus They are the best Father and Son and I hope The next God of War will take place in Egyptian Mythology Japanese Mythology or Chinese Mythology
High likelihood of it going either Egyptian (cos the items they found in Tyr's Temple in the first game) or even Celtic tbh....there were moments where Mimir mentioned his homeland/deities and also the the Kelpie, which they rode on to the Norns, is from Celtic mytho Both would be 🔥
@@joshualedesmasegovia yea but also some of the items lying around in the treasury room of the temple. Atreus was at one point wearing a pharaoh headdress/crown
@@s.vickramnairduh5020 How about Kratos fight Set The Egyptian God of Deserts Storms Disorder Violence and Foreigners and Anubis The Egyptian God of Death Mummification Embalming The Afterlife Cemeteries Tombs and The Underworld
Kratos already went through Egypt on his way to Midgard; I don’t think he’ll wanna go back. Japan & Scotland sound like good places for a future installment, though.
Kratos calling Mimir his brother, Sindri his family, and Brok his friend hits me so hard every time I see those moments. Then there’s Thor showing that Atreus kinda grew on him (in his own ways). When Atreus got back from Asgard and just needed a hug. Kratos acknowledging and respecting everyone else’s emotions including his own. I could go on and on. The emotional character development is fucking unmatched.
So out of curiosity who else was like "FUCK DADS HERE" at 13:41 cause I swear it felt the same way whenever my dad walks in and catches me doing something
Personally I'd like to know how Faye died. Not a lot is given to her story just bits and pieces. She fought and beat Thor on Vanahiem, she fought Kratos for a second then fell in love with him. Was the guiding hand of fate for both games.
The father and son journey of atreus and kratos will always be one of if non THE BEST Father and Son journeys in gaming history! The writer and director of their story is magnificent and probably perfection!
45:14 Kratos understanded that the pain Atreus is abke to feel is what he lacked in his youth to avoid being the monster or Ghost of Sparta he once was.
How amazing would it be if they make a sequel and you have to play as atreus and your getting whaled on by some big boss and your on the verge of death then all of a sudden the god of war himself appears out of nowhere and saves you after years of not seeing his son!! Now that would be a scene a would love to see
This is how I imagine Atreus coming back: he would come back as an eagle 🦅 flying to the port of the land with more marbles, and some physical giants on boats. After returning them to Joutanhiem he would pursue Angraboda and return to his Father via Eagle. And then they would tell tales. And play as Atreus through them.
I know this is about Kratos and Atreus but rewatching Brok's death i never noticed how much sheer grief befalls kratos to the point hes like "fuck it im done"
“They wanted the Ghost of Sparta? They’re gonna regret it” I honestly want to see the Ghost of Sparta again. I honestly think the only thing that could bring him out, is if Atreus were to die. Everybody would be, as Mimir said, “five different shades of Fucked”.
30:25 looking at everything looking up to this scene again after watching it for the first time made me almost glad that the writers didn’t make it too obvious that Tyr was Odin the whole time. I had no idea up until that point!
11:55 "if we eat using a knife ppl at the table say " have manners" but we see Kratos here eating sausage using a killing knife we say " THATS OP, YEAHHHH KRATOS " 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imma call a nerf on Thor given moments before the fight happened he sent the world serpent back in time with a hammer blow, that's gotta be exhausting.
Brok dying is one of the most emotional I’ve ever seen. That blue bastich didn’t deserve to die by the fking hands of Odin… HE DESERVED TO DIE HOW HE WANTED TO DIE. 😢He deserved better
Something about our developing generations is spoken in this story. The implications of name changings, secrets being held, abusive controlling parents, and learning to love and move on. This story is beautiful because it speaks wonders about our lives today. The only thing that's different though is that everything moves faster in our lives and the people we should and shouldn't meet come into our lives just as fast as they leave. It's as if the fluid we creatures move in has changed viscosity or has been diluted with something. Apart from the internet, apart from the development of drugs and medicines, apart from our advancing technologies, we have less and less time to focus on each other only as much as we feel that we do. There is no such thing as value, importance, or a connection to one another any more.
41:36 this is where i was sure that the game will end with end of kratos and damn did the whole part made me cry, i really wanted atrues to listen his dads last story till the end but end truned out really great
17:35 While you can reasonably read a trans allegory into basically any coming-of-age story, this line really sticks out to me. I doubt the "atreus vs loki" name thing was intended that way, but i can't imagine that it wasn't at least at the back of the writers' minds when they wrote this particular line. He's so relieved to see his son, so much more ready to see him as a young adult with agency - he's done telling Atreus who he is, and is ready to ask him himself. "What do I call you?"
