God of War Ragnarok - The Hidden Story of Faye vs Thor - How Faye Beat Thor in Battle 

To be honest, Faye had every right to be furious against someone who basically destroyed her entire race. Her anger is justified by the fact that she’s literally fighting someone who has slain her entire kind while the person who’s done it just sits there, get drunk while reveling in enjoyment for doing such a heinous act.

"WE are not OUR failures, WE are not who WE were, WE must be better" Really puts that line in full perspective

I like to believe Kratos immediately knew Faye was involved when seeing the frozen lightning but initially refused to believe his beloved is responsible until hearing the spirits that he couldn’t deny any longer.

It was nice to know the story of Faye's battle with Thor. It's understandable why she fought him enraged. Thor did kill most of her people, which were technically Thor's people too since he's also half giant. It's impressive that both Thor and Faye survived, especially Thor who was drunk. It is especially impressive that Faye learned from the devastation she helped caused to better herself and eventually Kratos into better people. The fact that Faye had such rage against Thor really does show that she had more in common with Kratos than at first glance. She however chose to be better, and ultimately helped her husband and son to be better too.

One of the small details I love about this quest line is the fact that the ghost are either flashing with electricity (Mjolnir) or emitting frost particles (Leviathan axe). It gives you the impression of the fact that Faye, who in her (justified) rage is just as a part of the destruction of this valley as Thor, who is continuously depicted as a destroyer. She ironically became the thing that she hated Thor for, to the people of the Crater. Small details like that really makes good stories even better.

Why is everyone focused on the surface bullshit. "Who won"..... The biggest take away is that she was a rage monster just like her husband. But she learned to control her anger and taught Kratos how to "Be Better."

Thor: “This feels familiar” Beginning of game me: “Huh?” End of game me: “Brilliant foreshadowing.”

This makes me want a Faye DLC even more

Faye is badass . As expected from kratos wife

I love that they included this mini backstory for Faye. It shows that while she may appear as some kind of moral Angel, she's had similar issues and mistakes that Kratos had. With her rage resulting in the destruction of a whole civilization and even ending lives. She only ended up being as emotionally intelligent as she was because of what she learned from her own mistakes. No wonder her and Kratos were perfect for each other.

Here's my bit of theory about Thor: part of the reason Thor is so gloomy and adamant about not being able to change is because, like those of the Jotnar, he too received prophetic visions, about his unbending servitude to Odin, about his massacre of the Giants and all that. But because he was raised in a culture that shun Jotnar qualities, he did not know how to face, let alone deal with these visions, thus he quietly kept them to himself and saw them become true one by one; thus enforcing the assumption that they're inevitable; even Jotnars who live among other giants suffer this defeatist mindset (Angroboda) the thing is, he's COMPLETELY alone in the dark. This is why he's so desensitized about nearly everything, and often seeks a way to escape thoughts, because when thoughts form, those prophecies haunt him and rid him of any sense of purpose he had left. I believe part of the prophecy he saw was him getting killed by Kratos, thus why the Spartan got him so intrigued and was pivotal to his character development (tough short-lived). Thor was not pissed that he was losing against Kratos, he wanted to be done with it, but when Kratos refused to finish the fight and kill him when he had the chance, it was not just a person showing that they can be better; it was proof that the inevitable, never were.

Couple things: 1. I love that we finally got to see who Faye was and what she looked liked. Atreus definitely picked a lot up from her. It’s nice to have this. We hear a lot about her but we finally get to see! 2. Where’s Atreus? Who is watching him while they’re out hunting? Has he been born yet in these dreams/flashbacks? He was there as an infant in one of these sequences. 3. I kind of wish we saw the other side of Faye. Not the fair, soft spoken women with a bit of a snark or sass to her(another thing Atreus picked up). Where’s the fierce and driven warrior that she was? We don’t get to see that side. Granted it’s likely she, like Kratos, was retired from that life by the time she meant him, but still. In the last game and this one we hear that she had other sides. She was strong. She drank(never with Kratos). Even had a temper! SHE FOUGHT THOR!!! Man I want to see that. I know why we don’t. Kratos never saw this so we don’t get to. Still tho. Hearing the story was cool. 4. I kinda like how both Kratos and Mimir discovers some hidden truths about their loved ones. I don’t think there’s dialogue that ties it in but still I like that. 5. How’d she die? Was she sick? She seemed fine chin the flashbacks even when preparing for her inevitable death. Was she just holding back the pain or sickness? Was it her fight with Thor? That seems unlikely to me. That was a while ago, no? Before Atreus. Unless it was an injury so bad but unseen and took its time to catch up with her? We saw this woman lifting trees. What made her so ill? Maybe I missed something.

I loved exploring the crater it really felt like a dlc expansion and was really fun in general

I've never been able to afford GoW 4 or Ragnarok but your videos have single-handedly made this one of my all time favorite games! You do amazing work!

Faye didn’t beat Thor. Their battle ended in a stalemate

Let the rage of the Jötunns fuel your axe Faye Jötnar Rage is available

It would’ve been so cool to see a mini movie of Faye during her battle with Thor, or atleast a clip of the battle where she and Thor both made the frozen lighting

In order for Faye to even handle the “press O” actions and carry his son means she’s really strong. Lol

Great side mission to do before the end battle. Faye vs Thor left so much devastation and innocents died in because of their fury. It’s almost like a lesson that Kratos, Atreus/Freya, and Mimir have to learn. The “open your heart to it” speech Kratos gives Atreus makes it so perfect.

I'd love to have seen even a slightly flashback from that frozen striking thunder light If Kratos would have touched it. (if it would have been possible by SMS) That would have helped us alot to picture Faye in full rage fighting for her life. Picture that! Whooooaaaa!

I think I speak for everyone when I say we need to see this fight

I love seeing the representation of Lafaye vs Thor in Gow, it was so unexpected, but not only did it affect the story, I think it's why Leviathan's element is ice. The frost giant Lafaye, compared to the last guardian of the giants, and wielder of the ice axe Leviathan, Faye; mother to Atreus, instead of father to Loki

To me it was pretty obvious that Faye fought Thor since at the beginning of the game when you create the frozen lightning bolt Thor says “this looks familiar” and when you go to vanaheim in the crater there is another frozen lightning bolt, and the fact that Faye had the axe before kratos

I know someone is going to say that, she fought a drunk Thor he was not at his best. Just so you remember a drunk Thor is the same Thor, that was able to go toe to toe with Kratos so that does not downplay her.

Faye rlly meant on sight. Considering both parents this must mean Atreus is gonna be one bad son of a gun when he gets older

It took Kratos destroying an entire country to see what revenge costs. When Faye destroyed a valley that was her turning point. Even at her worst she was more emotionally intelligent than Kratos.

While Faye was beating Thor destroying Vanaheim, Kratos was busy killing Zeus destroying Olympus

honestly, we need a Faye dlc 1. When kratos and Faye met 2. that god damn Thor fight

Their story is so similar and that they both were good for each other... the story of GOW continues to unveil more and more beautiful stories just shows what a masterpiece it is even after you've finished the game

Fun fact during the first fight with Thor after the two weapons clash and make the frozen lightning bolt, Thor says “this feels familiar…”. when visiting the Plains in Vanaheim and seeing another frozen lighting bolt and listening to the stories of the spirits that line makes so much more sense

I LOVE that you're VO'ing these now. You have a good voice for it.

Very very good video, the way you narrated it and everthing.. Thank you very much I enjoyed it and made me very emotional somehow.

It's a gives depth to why she took Kratos in. She understood the rage because she was no different.

At @7:26 , who was the strange creature Thor was drinking with? 🤔 I know I read a story about Thor having a wager with someone and drinking what it seemed to be mead, but in reality he was drinking water from the sea or something. He was being tricked, I wonder if these stories are the one and the same.

I think Faye and Thor are from the same Jotunar line. That red hair and both their immense strength is my only line of comparison sadly

I would love there to be an added hidden cutscene that can be unlocked showing Faye’s battle with Thor, when Ragnarok gets it’s additional content update later this year. I could easily see it being a after credits scene you get for beating new game +.

Faye furious vs a drunken sloppy Thor . This was probably Faye’s most important battle while Thor expected nothing.

The fact that Thor said “This Feels Familar He recognized that lighting bolt And i think that Only happens When The axe and hammer Combines Creating a Large Lighting Bolt

someone pointed out in a theory video that is possible that Faye's mother and Thor's mother is the same, that would make Atreus and Thrud cousins, which is kinda cool... and to be fair both Faye and Thor have some similarities, giant blood, red head, blue eyes, really powerful individuals, both have legendary weapons, etc... kinda tragic, if you ask me.

kratos straight refusing to believe faye whent full berserker on thor had me thinking dayum kratos you really be out here thinking so little of yer wife then i realised how different she must've been when he met her

Theory: Freya believes she meet Faye as a warrior during the Vanir battles with Aesir in Vanaheim but she didn't have the Axe at the time. I think Faye, either not obtaining the Axe from the Huldra Brother yet or waiting for the right time to reveal it, fought to get close to Thor. She knew Thor was her brother and wanted to stop him from being Odin's pawn. She felt that without Odin's influence Thor would be an ally to the Giants and Vanir. She caught up with in the Mead Hall and tried to convince him to leave Odin and do what his mother Fjorgyn would have wanted by revealing to him that she is his sister. But Thor was drunk and in his belligerence refused to listen to reason. This infuriated Faye and she decided to attack him using the Axe that she had hoped to use along side her brother. They fought a ferocious battle leaving behind many casualties. This saddened Faye which lead her down a path of repentance that eventually caused her to meet Kratos. I think her death is related to the mysterious death of her mother Fjorgyn too. Perhaps their was a curse or illness that Fjorgyn and Faye share. I got more but I'll stop now lol

literally cant wait for the next vid!

You can just tell Kratos was bricked up at the thought of his wife fighting Thor as ferociously as she did. xD

Damn even Faye had to learn about the consequences of vengeance and disregarding the lives of those around to deities fighting

I think that the reason why the clash between Thor and faye was bigger than with Thor and Kratos. Kratos was struggleling to hold back his rage and Thor was only there for a blood depth and was not allowed to kill Kratos so both of them was holding back, so it Didn't really have such a big explosion. But i think that the reason why Faye's and Thors clash was bigger was because Faye was really furious so she gave everything she got, while Thor was drunk.

Is interesting that the bystander’s’ spirits are affected by the magic of Thor and Faye’s weapons when they was fighting

Holger is the one who sounds sufficiently freaked out about the whole "I got murdered" thing.

Part of me wonders what would've happened if Faye never abandoned her rage-fueled days, and instead maintained that level of anger even after meeting Kratos. What would they have done by then? Try and topple Asgard as this unstoppable power couple? Or maybe Kratos, who already saw the tragedy that comes with the destruction of deities, would instead be the one to try and calm Faye, to which if it would work is up for debate. Thanks for making this video and sharing more about Kratos's late wife. Keep up the great work!!!

Everybody focus on Faye while Thor battled a powerful being in a drunken state and vaguely remembers it. 😂

Thor was fighting for fun, not seriously, unlike Faye, she was fighting with all her might, yet she didn't defeat him, and Thor didn't take a single scratch.

She only survived because Thor was drunk.

Faye is one heck of a badass woman 😀

I think that Faye would've gotten killed by Thor if she continues so she decided to only protect the ones she loves and so that kratos can manage to kill thor

I would love to play as Faye in a dlc. Would be awesome to see this fight in gameplay.

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I like Faye. However, she didn’t beat thor. She stalemated him. And a drunk thor, who in asgard, could barely hold his own in a bar fight. Let’s not overrate characters we like please

Good Shit, I wanna play it even more

Faye's importance to the Norse saga.. especially in Ragnarök is unimagineable

Each of the spirits have a cold wind or electricity coming out of them when you first meet them, likely a sign of who between Thor and Faye caused their death

You gotta love the lore in god of war

somebody needs to make a mod where you look and play as Faye in GOW ASAP, i saw a recent mod with TYR and it was sooooo good

Nice thumbnail. Did you make it yourself? No sarcasm.

I have been looking for videos talking about the moment kratos says to Atreus this feels to easy and always thought that line was a giant hint at the game being a dream or simulation created by Odin to see what the outcome of ragnarok is and if we get a 3rd game will it lead to time travel since there is abit of time travel in how ragnarok

The lead up to this battle makes perfect sense. Makes total sense why she’d be furious with him and want him dead But she beat him? One on one? I dunno. To me that kind of knocked down the fear I had for Thor. Build her character up while tearing him down. In the previous game he was told to be neigh invincible. Kratos equivalent in the Norse pantheon. It made sense how Kratos was able to beat him, man killed god for a living practically, but my god how powerful is Faye if she beat his ass too? One of the reasons I felt Thor was so dangerous was because prior to Kratos no one could stop him except Odin.

Always wanted to hear the complete story 🤔

Wish theyde make a dlc where you can play as faye in her battle against thor

When Sindri said Faye was a fierce warrior, he wasn't kidding.

I think it was a stalemate The only Giant I know beat Thor was Starkaðr, the eight arm general

Deborah Ann Woll VS Chris Hemsworth from Avengers: Endgame! It was great to see Deborah as Faye. She was remarkable in True Blood and Netflix's Daredevil.😅😀

When I saw that clash initially I thought they had literally fractured the World Tree

I'm still wondering who or what thor was drinking with... It's just described as a 'creature' that no one recognized. Like, was it an Egyptian god? They would certainly look strange enough to garner that reaction...

To be honest it would of been better if Faye lost to Thor, and the resulting injuries is what caused her early death. She was OP enough already. Altered the future and defied her race, literally changing the outcome of Ragnorak, birthing Loki, wedding Kratos of Sparta, magic strong enough to keep them hidden in Midgard, a rebellion with the dwarves... and she's MORTAL. Being able to stalemate Thor in his bloodlust days... damn laying it on thick now. If she wasn't mortal Kratos wouldn't of even been needed.

If there dlc story for faye playable as faye it be awesome of her stories to fight agains't thor.

Drunk on rage 🤯🤣 S/O Faye

Tbh why doesn’t Mimir recall any mentions he might have heard about Faye back when he was loyal to Odin?

Faye was enraged in this fight while Thor was so piss drunk that he was stated to be “sloppy”. Imagine if Thor was sober, and as enraged as Faye was

I want DLC. Faye vs Thor Faye vs Kratos We all want it! 2023 anyone?

I really wished that somehow we could've seen Faye become a beserker and wail on Thor

Faye was strong but let's not forget that thor was drunk as fuck.

I bet some of the dwarves could forge something amazing with that frozen lightning

They can totally make a DLC with this ong

Given how Faye and Thor were both alive at the end of their fight means the fight either ended in a stalemate or upon seeing the collateral damage her anger caused she showed Thor mercy.

Because Thor was drunk and Faye was furious. That’s how she defeated him 😂😂😂

Ohhh... So, that's what Thor meant when he said to Kratos, "This feels familiar", after they both clashed. He was trying to remember the fight he had with Faye.

Honestly I lot of people says fayes death was unexplained but to me they gave a lot of pathways of what it coulf have been. To me she coulf have died of a sickness which would explain the funeral setup she did and always talking to kratos aa if she had no time left. Would also explain why she was so keen on kratos raising atreus. Or 2, she died in battle like most honorable warriors do. This story as well as her fight with kratos and the rebellion army proves she has a big fighting spirit compared ro the rest of the giants. Maybe one day that fighting spirit is what caused her demise.

Million Giants later and Thor decides to join .. In Valhalla

It would have been more interesting if we find out Faye and thor were related. They're both giants (thor half giant). Would have been cool if they were siblings

7:30 could this companion would’ve been a tanuki?

Only question is how they both survived. Faye would not have spared Thor for his destruction of her people and Thor doesn’t really spare people, drunk or sober. With them both in the state they were I highly doubt they would have left it at a stalemate.

playing through Ragnarok again so fn good but this story made me thoink that Fay's original plans for Kratos was just to use Kratos just like the Greek gods did but did actually fall in love and have Atreus

Thor is also a victim by Odin's depressed Grandpa issues personality Thor is just being used

Faye saw Thor when he was was drunk and tired and sloppy and she was like GET OVER HERE

Faye vs drunk Thor

Anyone in the comment can tell me where I can find the original pic of Faye fighting Thor? Very impressive

Can faye be just as strong welling the ax ?

It was a draw nobody won

How did the north gods ever find out about Kratos the ghost of Sparta who were what told them?

They should make a Faye DLC where she fights thor and meets kratos

That's great video! How can I get more viewers like you

I think Loki game will uncover all of this. Who blew the horn and confirm the stories by time travel 😬