Godot Engine: The Real Reason Why You Can’t Finish a Game 

Istg where did you find people like this 😭 Idk, I guess I just didn't look far and wide enough. Maybe I just got lucky.

​@@aqua-beryTHE NEW GODOT POSTS ON REDDIT HAVE THIS?!?

​@@aqua-bery Community managers of Godot often remove genuine criticism of the engine under different pretexts, so you're unlikely to come across it. Fanatical behavior of Godot users becomes apparent only when someone dares to criticize Godot, as evident in the comment section under the videos of this channel. Consider yourself lucky to have found this channel! I invite you to read reviews and testimonies of former maintainers, contributors, and long-term users of Godot here: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/reviews_and_testimonies.html

Yes, it is a skill issue! That's why I'm asking for help!

That’s cool, man! I’ve been in your shoes several years ago, and I wish someone had told me the same thing. Your words mean a lot to me, and no hater can take that away. I hope more people come to similar realizations-for their own growth and for the well-being of the game development community and industry. Good luck on your journey!

Okay, my bad, the link is in the channel description, but still…

You're probably out of the loop and seem like a nice guy in contrast to most Godot zealots, so let me explain. I'm not using Godot anymore. I used to maintain Godot for several years. This video is a satire, I'm not even talking here, I'm just using different videos from various Godot-related channels to achieve the post-ironic message. Many Godot fans are amateurs and often blame themselves rather than the engine, making them believe that their skills are the issue. But for the most part, Godot is unreliable and even broken when we're talking about features such as physics. Many professional developers and long-term users of Godot confirm this thesis. Of course, this could be applied to any engine, but you probably don't realize the extent of this issue in Godot which makes the whole difference worth bringing up. However, another point of this video was to demonstrate that even complaining about these issues will eventually lead to ostracism from the Godot community, unlike in most other healthy communities. In fact, there exist different types of Godot believers who tend to dismiss Godot issues as normal, I don't know whether you've used Godot before or considered using it in the future, but according to my experience, many of those who have expressed similar thoughts such as yours share these characteristics: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/glossary.html#believers I would put the link in the description, but for some reason, RU-vid disallows me to do this. You don't have to believe anything, I recommend reading the rest of the book. If you ask questions, ask! Godot fanatics don't ask questions: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/faq.html

@@GodotNoContext thank you for the reply. Yeah, I’m definitely out of touch with the in-depth info about both the engine itself and its management. And I will check the link you’ve provided (found it on the channel description too). I totally can understand your position and your reasons. And I cannot provide neither valid critique nor advices what to do, as I have almost 0 experience with the engine. Guess I will check the other videos on the channel first before coming up to some conclusion.

Thanks, I'm glad you found this helpful! I know several former Godot users who switched back to Unity. For your information, in 2016, the lead developer stated they "aim for an engine that is easier to use than Unity, and that looks better than Unreal, and we are very close to getting there in the upcoming Godot 3.0". So, this promise has been dragging on for eight years. The year is 2024, and Godot's 3D capabilities are far behind Unreal's, making these comparisons laughable. Despite this, many Godot users, mostly novices unaware of these longstanding promises, continue to believe them. People often leave without voicing their concerns, so I appreciate you speaking out!

@@GodotNoContext My problem with the input concerns the gamepads, the Xbox one doesn't work with the D-Pad, the Switch one, well... I don't comment and I don't understand why to use a database that uses SDL2/3 rather than implementing SDL2/3 as a built-in stuff, it's also bad not to have the possibility of press or hold, tap or double tap which makes the code in my opinion less clean, then I don't understand why to put only one script for a node. The W4Games issue I have my doubts and yes I agree that the Godot Foundation heads have to go. After I finish my game I'm thinking of making a game engine that is united some concepts of Unity, Godot itself and Unreal and make it Open Source but before that time I would like to concentrate on the philosophy of this engine calmly but above all I don't want to make the mistakes that Juan made. Note: If Godot 4.3 has not solved the Input problems, my game will revert to Unity Note 1: I will write an editorial on the site I write dedicated to Godot, and if it is possible I will also make it understandable in both Italian and English and I will put your ebook on the site if my boss will allow me.

3d physics was so bad they bullied the guy they hired on to try to fix and improve it so bad, he left. peak godot logic right there LOL

chatGPT is for lame loosers.

@@andrewsneacker1256 chat gpt helped me write my own game engine. Like for example I didn't knew how to write shaders or how to use bullet physics, but example code made learning much easier

@@BitKovin Yea its helpful if you dont know wtf you are doing xD

@@BitKovin Learn how to use google, you will be amazed what "example" code you can find. And I'm not even talking about Github xD

​@@andrewsneacker1256 exactly. Helps to learn. After few examples I understood how everything works and now implementing very complex algorithms and systems

Do you recognize yourself here? 🤡 waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/cult/groupthink.html

@@GodotNoContext hawwww, im a godot cultist cuz some random ahh guy from youtube said so...

@@theyellowdude69 I'm a co-author of Godot... 😂

@@GodotNoContext yea sure

@@theyellowdude69 Yes! 😁 For people reading this, you can easily verify it yourself: x.com/Xrayez/status/1735324751248187773 waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/#about-the-author To note, I'm ashamed of being a co-author of Godot. I wish I never discovered it in the first place.

big issue i had to back in 2015 or so. tried to move my entire game to godot 3 and convert everything, got hit with the tilemap flickering issue and several larger issues. said aww nah i'll go back on stable 2.1 it's fine, i can live without gpu particles. then when godot 4 hit, ran into more issues. now i'm just using a heavily modified 2.1.6 client. literally gave up the engine is getting more and more bloated too. been reporting bugs since 2014. i realized i spent more time reporting issues and talking on github than actually spending time developing a game.

First of all, I'd like to point out that I often encounter people who act as though they're not fanatical about Godot, or they simply can't reflect upon their fanatical behavior. It doesn’t matter how criticism is expressed in Godot. Former maintainers, contributors, and long-term users have engaged in thoughtful and respectful conversations with the maintainers for years, but even their polite criticism is dismissed as odious "misunderstandings" or "trolling" despite the facts presented. Fanatics are blinded by their dogmatic faith in the technology they idolize and can't see the truth... That includes baseless out-of-context accusations. This became a meme in and of itself, hence the name of the channel. At this point, all we can do is mock them, and these satirical videos do a great job of that.

​@@GodotNoContext first of all, id like to point out that i encounter the occasional person who act as if they arent fanatical about hating godot, or they simply cant reflect on their fanatical behavior. Calling a weird assortment of audio-shopped insults, "post-ironic", taking generic legit advice that applies to anything, and using it to hate on one specific thing that it applies to, and salty to the point the only thing keeping them sane is mockery. you know anyone like that?

@@RenderingUser Well, it goes both ways. I've seen your comments throughout my videos trying to discredit the criticism somehow. If you know better, act better. I advise you to follow Juan Linietsky's directive, literal quote: "I just want to convey to my folks in the @godotengine community that, as the engine has grown so much, many people using other technologies feel bothered and/or threatened about it, and that fear can result sometimes in aggressive behavior. Please always be kind, do not engage." Please, do follow Juan's Linietsky directive! Juan has forbidden you to talk with me. 🤡

@@GodotNoContext "Please, do follow Juan's Linietsky directive! Juan has forbidden you to talk with me" you somehow actually find it offending that i use godot engine but dont have a cult mentality lmao "I've seen your comments throughout my videos trying to discredit the criticism somehow." as if you made any valid criticism to begin with

@@RenderingUser I don't find offending that you use Godot. You do express a groupthink mentality at the very least. I haven't seen you respond to concrete points I've raised, you're just fixating on me. You'd become a good representative of the Godot community!

Well, that and Godot barely even HAD 3D before 4.0, so it's justifiably miles behind the other two, and frankly, if you're not willing to commit to building your own 3d pipeline, it's really just better to go to one of the other engines, at least until Godot gets a few more touch-ups to it's 3d systems. You can theoretically get close to Unity or Unreal 3D with custom stuff, but it's really just not worth the effort unless you have to do it anyways or it's a passion project. I personally like Godot because it's the easiest to learn of the three, and I think it's a really good primer in case you need to move to one of the other engines professionally.

GMS? game maker studio? for 3d????

@@RenderingUser 😅

It depends on who you ask. Godot fans insist there are no problems, believing that haters are everywhere simply because Godot is so good, in their opinion. 🤡 In reality, Godot is named after Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot" where characters wait for someone who never arrives. Similarly, Godot feels like a psychological scam, with users caught in a cycle of "too terrible not to upgrade, good enough to make you want to upgrade." Godot often makes a highly hyped step forward, only to quietly take two steps back. Despite Godot's deceptive simplicity, many features are overpromised to attract unsuspecting donors, leading to inconsistent development decisions and a lack of stability.

2000 games released from Godot. Also slay the spire 2 is going Godot... More and more professionals are moving to Godot. Don't forget this person set up a channel just to hate on Godot. Which is really weird! Never released a game but he hates godot 😂

@@stedunn563 Indeed, why would anyone hate on Godot, a free and open-source game engine, right? 🤡

@@stedunn563 LOL you guys have been saying this exact same rhetoric since 2014

ngl godot suckie tho

Stop asking questions, you say? 🤔🙃 waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/faq.html You can't find an answer without first asking a question, whether you're asking someone else or yourself. That's the essence of problem-solving.

Sure! What games have you *personally* finished with Godot? 🙃

Still lesser than GameMaker, RPGmaker, Pygame and Renpy. Not even mentioning Unity and Unreal. And these engines don't have such vocal minority claiming that their engine is in "Big three" or it's "Next Blender". Maybe it's just the "Next Hurd"? A project that will be never finished?

@@Capewearer It's definitely a project that will never be finished, by Godot's definition, it's even been written in a Wikipedia article about Godot. Juan Linietsky himself has said as much. For those who might not know, the name "Godot" comes from the play "Waiting for Godot" by Samuel Beckett, where Godot is a character who never shows up. I recently heard that there's going to be a movie adaptation of "Waiting for Godot" starring Keanu Reeves, so maybe that will help people understand that waiting for Godot isn't about hope, but rather about futility. Naming a project "Godot" is one of the worst choices they could have made, and it's unfortunate that people were tricked into thinking something good could come from it. For more information on Godot's name, read: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/organizational_culture/value_of_waiting.html

rimworld dev pooped all over godot on their own subreddit and the lead maintainers were scrambling to get him to switch. hilarious lmao. ya'll gonna be waiting for godot just for the same as waiting for next big game coming with it. LOL

never ask a woman her age never ask a man his salary never ask a godot cultist what "games" he made

i kinda want to read the book(i did a little), but i am quite scared that i may get caught in a false or stupid narrative. I always sway too far one way or too far another causing very bad moments for me. at the end of the day, I just want the best game engine for my needs

Did you even read the fair use disclaimer? I specifically mention that it’s for criticism, satire, parody, and more. Identifying authors would go against the "no context" purpose of this channel. Anyway, sorry if I don't cater to bullies! 🙃 If you've been using Godot for years, the information I provide may not be very beneficial and might even frustrate you, especially since long-time Godot users often have a strong emotional attachment to it. The information I provide is mainly for those who have heard about Godot but haven't delved deeply into it. However, I know some people who have overcome their Godotitis completely, so to speak, even after using it for a long time. This includes former maintainers like myself. It's reassuring to see a whole community critically evaluating Godot. Personally, I have no respect for the Godot community, as many who hate me didn't even acknowledge the five years of unpaid work I put into Godot, contributing to the project voluntarily. They enjoy the features I created for Godot (often without knowing it) and hate me simultaneously. Due to this, I feel no obligation to be "nice" to any of Godot's representatives. They don't follow their own rules, so why do you expect me to respect them or give them credit? This isn't about name-calling or finger-pointing; it's about raising awareness of the concrete issues. From my experience as a former maintainer, I've pointed out many of these problems. Others share my views as well, unlike what you say. I recommend looking at reviews and testimonies from notable users, contributors, and maintainers of Godot: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/reviews_and_testimonies.html Here's something funny: if you share the book on Godot's Discord server, your message will be deleted and there's a high chance you'll get banned immediately. Instead of addressing any of the claims in the book, they just censor it and label it as extremism, even though it reflects the views of many people outside the Godot community. A lot of people avoid criticizing this cult because it often leads to backlash against them. You might say that it’s not "proper" criticism, but that’s not productive. Why expect people to agree with you just because you say "you're just as bad" without providing any evidence? Invest in your counterarguments as I did before making accusations.

@@GodotNoContext ???

@@GodotNoContext you sound like a conspiracy theorist honestly.

​@@aheadsounds2522 That's a typical reaction from people who are butthurt about criticism of Godot. You currently demonstrate the exact same, unoriginal rhetoric used by Godot fans. Don't be like those cultists, you can be better. I suggest you don't embarrass yourself further. Read the book-I've documented behavior similar to yours from other Godot users. You all share the same groupthink. I know exactly how they act, and it's almost scary to realize how predictable their behavior really is. But it's your life. I'm not offended in any way, and I can't be offended anymore knowing the nature of such a social dynamic. I'm just explaining why you say this. I recommend reflecting on your behavior by reading this chapter: waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/cult/groupthink.html