In my opinion, the first atomic breath shin Godzilla showed is still the most badass. How it changed from that dirty flames to that high pitched thin beam was just awesome.
Everyone's been saying that Ultima's breath weapon is atomic but I fully disagree and it's very very obvious that actually isn't. If his breath was atomic then it would mean that Ultima is absorbing nuclear energy, which he doesn't. In a DangerVille video, someone said that his breath is a Photon Breath. This is because Godzilla is transforming the Red Dust into light in order to create photons in the form of rings. He is also transforming his blood which is why his veins on his dorsal fins glow blue. Additionally in Episode 4 of Singular Point, Professor Li demonstrates the Archetype's ability to produce energy via the refraction of light in a temporal direction. Light can be gathered from a few minutes in time and it produces photons until it explodes. This is the Ashihara Cascade, which is the same for of Godzilla's photon breath. This is why Godzilla was destroyed in the final battle in episode 13. Because of the Orthogonal Diagonalizer, the Red Dust was being detoxified, which in turn caused a massive cascade of energy that destroyed Godzilla and Jet Jaguar. The Code from the Diagonalizer may have triggered this. Even if Ultima was to absorb nuclear energy, he doesn't have an internal nuclear reactor that allows him to produce an atomic breath or do anything with this nuclear energy.
Weirdly this would also mean that Godzilla Earth's breath weapon is either a Photon or an electromagnetic breath because Godzilla Earth doesn't absorb nuclear energy, he's a plant and plants don't absorb that kind of energy, If his breath was atomic then he would dispel it right out of his mouth, which he doesn't, He generates electromagnetic energy in his dorsal which he can direct anywhere on the outside of his body.
@@harvv5706 well technically electromagnetic energy is part of radiation, since electromagnetic energy includes, radio waves, microwaves, infrared, light, ultraviolet, X-rays, and gamma rays. While lets say for example, godzilla 1995 was shown to let out a huge amount of gamma radiation and electromagnetic energy as well as some other elements. Usually radio waves, microwaves, and x rays aren't strong enough to do much compared to other elements. Which I guess is why for example legendary godzilla shin godzilla's atomic breath are able to slice everything in half and destroy everything. I think also that for example shin godzilla's atomic breath is more like a lighter, meaning his mouth produces a certain element and then it turns into a beam.
except thats not true. number 1, we literaly know exactly how the true form functions so theres no reason why we shouldnt include it. Ths isnt something like super saiyan 100 it has very clear stuff to it. numher 2, even without it he still outhaxes so hard its funny
so we ain't gonna talk about how ultima can manifest into anything using red dust. Or how he collapses universes by walking, or how he is a higher being and due to this he couldn't show his true power instantly and he needed time to fully enter the universe. I mean, the universe is pretty much a videogame to ultima. what is legendary gonna do, use his atomic breath on a higher being\god who can reincarnate instantly, and collapse universes? Can people stop saying legendary beats higher beings that are invincible like ultima, and shin, who needs every cell in his body destroyed or he will evolve into a hivemind with a main body the size of a universe.
Congratulations I finally found people with a brain. Like I love every godzilla I know for a fact legitimate we're aint going win like he can't destroy his skeleton for one thing too you're putting up a very powerful animal against a legit God Ultima is basically the dark side of godzillas. Yeah you beat the The scales off is avatar but you'll never be able to kill him
Everyone also forgets that unless the creature is a singular point creature the red dust will be toxic to them of just clog their lungs causing them to suffocate which means legendary probably does before reaching land as the red dust will most likely have spread to all water surrounding Ultima.
I do agree about the fact that Monsterverse Godzilla has shown way better feats and has more destructive capabilities and better durability than Ultima.
well the thing with SP Godzilla is that his final form is literally the end of the universe as he is a being that is only partially in our realty at the moment.
@@arnavtripathy2227 I see, well telepathy will be the incorrect word to describe that ability. Legendary Godzilla is Simi ominous with earth because of Mothra sacrifice. This ability falls under the category of Godzilla senses itself.
I'd say Ultima, I mean while we didn't see much from him, he was gonna destroy everything even the universe itself. It was stated in the show that he was the end of time itself. In season he's most likely just gonna return and finish off what he's started. In one scene, he killed a Rodan and they never found the body. He decapitated a Manda and instantly regenerated from the bite wound on his neck. He even used his blood and flesh as a kind of reactive armor as seen when he's being bombarded by the military. The Red Dust also makes him stronger and he utilizes it as an energy source. The rings of energy around the beam act as a kind of shield, basically it's what decapitated the Manda rather than the beam in the middle. The beam in the center of the rings is what is for long range and melts things and passes through solid objects like nothing. While Monsterverse Godzilla is very powerful and larger he doesn't stand much of a chance. I mean he doesn't regenerate instantly as shown in KOTM and GVK and 2014(even when he does it's only when a massive amount of radiation is right on top of him, basically when a nuclear bomb explodes right next to him). He also doesn't last that long in a battle eventually he tires out rather easily. The only reason he blew a hole through the earth was because he was couching and focusing all his energy and power at one particular part, it also took minutes to successfully blast into the Hollow Earth rather than seconds(this doesn't mean his atomic breath is OP, once again he focused on one spot and just stood there blasting his breath). Note: This is just my personal opinion, so please don't get mad or upset about it. I respect others who say Monsterverse Godzilla would win.
@@kaijuar2003 OH. Okay. I won't sweat it though. I like your opinion on Ultima vs Legendary though. I think Legendary would win, but I do like your comment.
@@kaijuar2003 OH. Okay. I won't sweat it though. I like your opinion on Ultima vs Legendary though. I think Legendary would win, but I do like your comment.
@@legendarywolverine5529 What's with the two comments saying the same thing- oh wait, did you have a bit of internet connection(just wondering)? That happens to me as well sometimes.
@@yeee5614 he only became bigger because of the red mist, the red mist allows monsters to evolve and grow stronger. Ultima became 100m and his atomic breath had intensified and even if ultima isn’t a head on fighter his blood manipulation could be used for melee or defensive capabilities.
I somewhat have to disagree, because if Ultima Godzilla would stay out of range, he could just disintegrate Legendary's version. First of all, Legendary Godzilla isn't immortal. Remember the first movie where those two monsters nearly had him dead. Even the marine sarge said if they use a big enough nuclear bomb it would destroy him and any other monster from the monsterverse around. We've never actually not to see if Shin Godzilla was immortal or not. I know that we all saw it evolve after it was shot at several times by missiles and gunfire. The only thing that truly stopped him was the high temperature freezing machine when he was down being injected into his mouth.
Well nice point but you forgot that legendary godzilla survived a asteroid impact much stronger than any nuke and walked it of. Sure the humans said that if the dropped a big nuke it would kill all three of the kaiju. But then in the next movie they did that and it didn't kill him. No matter how hard ultima try's he isn't going to win this. Even if he used his beam it's still weaker. Legendary blasted all the way to the hollow earth while ultimas beam took longer to cut through a building.
Because manda is weaker than ghidorah Obviously ultimas beam can cut manda. I mean even before he had his atomic breath he killed a bunch of mandas. Also ghidorah is way stronger than manda so its a terrible match up
@@lexudary. even if it’s just a Manda, he was only 45m at that time and when he had grew his beam had intensified being able to slice through buildings once he had became 100m tall meaning that his beam can become stronger the more he grows or evolves
@@cringezosupremacy even so how do you explain the fact that he go beaten by jet jaguar. If his beam was so strong he would have cut him and won. Also we cant hide the fact that legendary blasted a hole through the earth
godzilla ultima at his real form controls 13 dimension and is 3rd strongest kaiju even toho confirmed that and without that feat still ultima wins for having more thicker skin and is more durable also he can release red mist to blind godzilla and use atomic breath then
Defence: Ultima IQ: Legendary Battle IQ: Legendary Close Melee: Tie Strength/body weight: Legendary Abilities: Tie (idk) Range melee: Ultima Speed: legendary Agility: legendary Regeneration: Ultima Winner: Legendary, Legendary would win, but ultima would regen and evolve into a more powerful form, meaning it’s practically ultima as the winner, but legendary would kill ultima in the first round.
but ultimas shadow cant die as his red dust would let him rapidly increase his mass, faster then any evolution we ever has seen in other kaijus. Also u gotta say ultimas shadow since real ultima is a multidimensional god that is immortal, but ultimas shadow is also immortal anyways. Ultima: imagine losing to my shadow
@@dootus what I was saying that legendary would win the first round, but ultima would heal with his red mist, he evolves like shin so he can evolve into something that can kill legendray.
Godzilla Ultima is a 13 dimensional entity. due to dimensional physics and linear algebra legendary Godzilla could not physically affect him because legendary Godzilla has no physical value in comparison to Godzilla Ultima, Godzilla Ultima would also be striking him with infinite energy due to the fact that he is physically attacking from beyond the 3rd dimension as a 4-13D object has infinite value in a 3 dimensional space
i like how legendary looses to the showa era (because showa era is stupid and overpowered) and people think a scientific lizard that can destroy the universe, literally came from another dimension and also warps reality by existing man also pretty much died in his 2nd form and came back to life is somehow gonna loose to a bulky godzilla that needed to use 50% of his atomic energy to blow a hole through the planet which probably took minutes or an hour to drill down to hollow earth but was sped up because movie physics and people want to see the fight now Ultima can literally focus up his breath and literally slice godzilla with the rings but it also seems that ultima's "atomic breath" was actually a lot of light energy being focused into one singular point (no pun intended). Plus if there was a fight between legendary and ultima all ultima would have to do *is stall until he can get to his next form which will be the end of the world/universe* even though ultima lacks some durability he makes up for that with his extreme regeneration as soon as the manda got killed off ultima's back that wound was gone the second that building scrolled over him so if legendary tries to spam atomic breath ultima would literally just rub it off like it was nothing and regenerate to what legendary isn't used to; mz needed ENERGY to regenerate kevin's head ultima doesn't need energy to regenerate *all he needs is his red dust* and legendary can't knock away that red dust plus he can't regenerate as fast as ultima can thus it doesn't matter about durability between legendary and ultima all that matters is who can instantly kill the other before ultima evolves to his next stage/ ends the world feat wise sure legendary wins but like if we were talking about no feats ultima can just stall and win speaking of godzillas if this was a fight between godzilla earth and ultima, godzilla earth with notice something off and take a nap to charge up his energy and when ultima is finally here he'll use oscalitory ray *to instantly remove him from the planet*
Now for the counters "OH yeah? Godzilla use radiation to make Ultima not regenerate" Ultima will die and come back and will adapt to godzilla's atomic nature and soon Ultima won't care about godzilla's radiation then Ultima would adapt to his physical strength and boom Ultima will slap legendary/ kill him legendary doesn't have a respawn "bed" like Ultima does If godzilla starts messing with ultima's first 3 forms then they would also probably get tougher
@@Evangelionfan15 That's your answer? Odd. Ultima is actually pretty weak, just as weak as Shin Godzilla via merely slicing through buildings, a took him at least 4 seconds to pierce through them. Monsterverse drilled through the earth with his own beam that pierced through the Earth's mantle (four layers of the earth) within 10 seconds.
@@godzilla-kingofthemonsters8068 let me explain Godzilla Ultima controls architype aka the red mist Wich is reality therefore he controls reality and 13 dimensions he also can control his appearance and cause himself to grow or shrink in size and power at his own will also his blood tentacles would be like more heads and arms that he could use so yea he may not be as durable and physically as strong but his abilities allow him to team Godzilla Frome the monsterverse out of existence at his own will
Godzilla ultima Height - 100 M(328 ft) tall Leangth - 250 M(820 ft) long Weight - 55,000 tons Power levels - 100,000,000,000(said to be able to destroy the universe but solar system level for me) MV Godzilla - Height - 119.8 M(393 ft) tall Leangth - 177 M(582 ft) long Weight - 99,634 tons Power levels - 30,000(he is only planet levels)
ultima is gonna be having fried up crocodile soup tonight. ultima wins easily. it's even worst if his 12th dimensional form fights legendary. then it's a literal execution
@@crawlcreeper1252 How does he clap? He only fought monsters with barely any features or just in general not too impressive features so Legendary claps Ultima
Legendary can beat his avatar but true form Ultima Goji one shots all movie versions tv shows and anime of Goji and most of the comics he is that powerful
@@jadenmcmillan4306 What exactly do you want for proof? In the anime it was said several times that Ultima is a being from a higher dimension and what he sees is just something like his "shadow". Also it was said that he is able to control 13 archatype and literally erase the universe from existence
4:55 Monsterverse Godzilla was never friendly towards humans he only tolerate them and is still willing to attack them if they provoke him. The mid 60s/70s Godzilla is way more friendly towards humans
Godzilla doesnt find humans bad Becuase of doctor serizawa.he only attacked apex becuase they where trying to replace him.he’s just there to protect the earth from ghidorah stuff like that and his thrown.
@@Boeing737maxisnotgood yeah and he'll attack humans if they pose a threat to the national order. He only tolerates humanity. Michael Dougherty confirmed this as fact. He'll team up with them and yes he will coexist with them but if they pose a threat he will go to war with them
people always overestimate legendary... ultima just like shin evolves to fight and as he is hard to kill, he will probably just evolve like shin and DOMINATE everything in the legendarverse. fun fact-final wars Godzilla would beat legendary in 5 seconds as final wars is the strongest
Ultima takes the W- Reason for that is because in one of the episodes many scientist done a mathematical equation which equaled to 9, ultima in the first season wasn’t even finished evolving, ultima was weaker then his full form which means jet Jaguar only killed a portion of Godzilla ultima, the rest of Godzilla ultima wasn’t finished, and if ultima was fully evolved jet Jaguar wouldn’t have done anything, ultima controls 13 dimensions, destroyed many universes and planets, far more dangerous and stronger then MV Godzilla, godzilla ultima doesn’t get touched by any being that controls 3-4 or more which means Godzilla MV doesn’t barely touch him
*Godzilla Ultima could alter reality and destroy the Universe if he keep evolving, and he's resistance and regeneration got better when he reached 100 meters and also he's Beam was more durable and much more stronger than Shin Godzilla one, and also melt and desintegrate things in seconds causing an explosion* *The 80% of the fandom:* Godzilla 2021 wins cuz he drilled to hollow earth with a beam he need to charge up for 2.30 minutes, And don't tell me it's 5 or 6 seconds and the Hong Kong arrive light is intimidation, cuz in Airship carrier fight where he charged up for 8 seconds the beam didn't get the massive diameter he got when it reached Hollow Earth. Also Godzilla Ultima it's almost inmortal only being killed by the Orthogonal Diagonalizer in the most dense part of the Red Smoke.
Its the same thing as why shin godzilla isnt considered that powerfull, i myself used to think it was more powerfull but like they have never fought an actual monster to be able to compare if it would be strong enough to damage something else, like for example his beam can melt stuff but yk so can every other beam i watched both singular point and shin godzilla 2016 but i still think that titanus godzilla is probably ONE OF the most powerfull ones but this is mostly just my opinion. ( I Know opinions dont matter on the internet and you are just going to disrespect it anyways ) [Also, he's not a ``reality bender`` stop using that as an argument and as an extra it seems that you have not watched the whole video]
You do know if the humans didn't stop shin, he'd eventually actually be a god. Creates his own universe. But because evolution is still slow, we're still talking about his 4th form and MV won't wait for him to evolve cause he's not a dumbass.
@@scout447 he isn't a reality bender, he is a higher dimensional entity. Also legendary is technically pathetic on the godzilla scale, not the lowest but definatly gets curbstomped by a lot of versions.
Man this is so dumb this is “current ultima” I do agree MV G man wins this one but at ultima full form he’d destroy the MV. People need to stop getting confused out here.
Money is on Monsterverse goji based off his size and feats all together plus Ultima hasn’t done anything impressive at all compared to the past incarnations that have proven to be way more durable, better at physical combat and don’t take a century to charge their atomic ray🤷🏾♂️
I got money on legendary Godzilla but he can't kill Ultima and the other thing is Ultima is literally getting stronger the more time he spends in the longer he stays in there demensoin for singular point Godzilla
Ultima is probably one of the weakest godzillas of ALL, he gets damage by missiles, his atomic breath needs to charge a good ammount of time, and in his 4rth form he got sliced by a tiny piece of anguirus, and also still bleed by a manda who species gets killed by missiles, i think most godzillas would kill him before he gets on his 2cond form, and if the gets on his 4rth form, most godzillas would kill him just pamming their atomic breath or just manhandling him like a toy.
Ultima was damaged by missles because he was still terrestris hasn’t evolve yet and the red mist allows monsters to evolve and grow stronger so the Manda that attacked ultima was probably enchanted.
@@cringezosupremacy how do you respond the little piece of anguirus slicing his skin with only the weight of small jet jaguar? And its not like it was a light saber like weapon, we can confirm is just like a big spear when he fought the crab things.
@@cringezosupremacy Plus, "lEgEnDaRy GoDzIlLa CaNnOt ToUcH uLtImA" Jet Jaguar was literally able to touch Ultima, even the weak Kaiju called Manda was also able to touch Ultima, Legendary Godzilla can just do the same.
All of you, I can't even began. You're all laughable. That's all I'll say. Debating with you'll will cost me precious brain cells and it ain't worth it.
AND IN G14 GODZILLA SHE CAN BE HURT BY MISSILES IT'S ON THE MOVIE AND IN G21 MOVIE SHE DID NOT GOT HIT BY A MISSILE AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THAT GODZILLA CAN'T BE HURT BY MISSILES.
Yeah, and the fast that he used it taking dmg from missiles as form 3 as "less durable" is stupid, shins first 3 forms took crazy dmg from it but then took none in it's 4th form, and we don't know how strong manda's are yet. Not just that he said in terms of height and length it's the same as 2014 maybe height but length, the tail alone is like 500 ft, and he acted like the tail wouldn't be useful at all
Yes ultima never went up against monsters as strong as him while legendary survived the caso provo nuke and ghidorah and muto prime. Ultima power level is like legendary fighting a skull crawler just like ultima fighting a cheap weak version of manda and with all the universe stuff you can say that Anima characters are way to overpowered and unstable. Legendary wins 🏆
@@yonsetv5223 Jet got his ass kicked, his head was nearly blown off and his stomach got destroyed, only won cause he had the oxygen destroyer. And we never see Ultimas final 100 meter form get hurt by bombs. The only thing that pierced ultimas 100 meter form was the spear (that barely cut into him). Legendary Godzilla was easily pierced by similar attacks from the mutos. And plus ultima was said to end the universe if he was not stopped. Legendary Godzilla drilled a big hole in the earth. Edit: they say he is from the forth dimension in the show
ultima is smaller fyi (ultima breath is weaker than legendary because it took a few seconds to cut through a building but that's probably bc they wanted it to be dramatic)
Legendary Godzilla is the ultimate King! I do miss G2k, Nakajima and Satsuma although Showa grew into Heisei and Millennium in alternate universes so there technically the same God.
Actually Ultima can kill almost every kaiju.let me explain.basically Ultima and shin are cousins.and as we see they both evolve very quickly.in the end of the shin Godzilla movie shin Godzilla was going to grow wings and fly away.and when we saw shin getting attacked from military jets on his back he evolved and was able to fire beams out of his back.and Ultima evolved quickly and grew god durability the red mist is now a shield and stops anything from touching Ultima bombs etc.and shins breath is more Concentrated and can slice mv Godzilla's limbs off no problem.and shin will see he is losing if he is so he will evolve and grow longer arms or whatever is needed.they will evolve and get whatever they need.Every body just sees them as lower versions but they are very powerful.and I'm not against mv Godzilla but it's facts.and Kong is strong too he won actually bc he killed a version of Godzilla and king Ghidorah mixed.with the help of godzilla
The video show us Godzilla Ultima on Singular Point anime form and the other is Godzilla from Monsterverse and this fanboys are using some sht true form come on its the avatar vs a monster cuz y'all saying "Gojira Ultima beats the sht out of Gojira Legendary cuz of true form and slice its face with really and kick it's ass with some blah blah" just kidding well come on guys its the avatar vs monster its obviously the MV would win for having to much experience in fight rather than stand there use some atomic breath that would blow in about 5 or 10 sec and can pierce building for 5 sec come on guys AHAHAHAHA
Ultima Is Most Likely To Win Coz He Can Manipulate Multverses With Red Shit. But Dont Forget, Mv Goji Has Mothra's Iq (well Its Still Under development) And Also BURNING GODZILLA. But For Now, Ultima Wins
Imo Ultima easily win. Lets for this argument ignore his power to erase monsterverse from existence and look at his avatar in the anime. This thing shouldn't be underastimated. Other singular point couldnt even knock him down with element of suprise. Ultima even in his weakest form destroys other monsters like some toys. Even if Legendary win battle then Ultima is just gonna come back. Legendary can;t get rid of it no matter what. Ultima doesn't seem to be affected by missiles while Legendary in fact was. Proof? Just scene when missiles hit his back during fight with Kong and they stopped him from using atomic breath. They didnt hit gills. Meanwhile Ultima didnt gave any sign of pain. No flintch at all. He just turned at humans pretty pissed of. His bloody tentacles also would be helpful. There is no way atomic breath of Legendary could kill Ultima. Sure Ultima is much slower but also more tanky. Even Ultima's avatar would imo kill Legendary
@@GoodOleQue123 not really, you can't kill someone by attacking his shadow, fighting ultimas monster version is pointless since its phisicaly impossible for him to die, you can try and it will injure his shadow (avatar) but i would never kill him, not permanently. Then there is the red cloud of archetype, unless legendary is immune to reality warping gas that is toxic to anything that inchales it he is dead. Then there is ultimas reactive evolution, its explained that the only reason monsters evolve so fast is becurse they transcend time and effectiveally speed up evolution to its extreame. And if none od that work just nuke the universe.
@@KrystianZieba-kc8tx I say I respect ur opinion, but to me, 4th: Ultima 3rd: SRW Godzilla 2nd: Godzilla (From Godzilla in Hell Comic issue 1-5) 1: Godzilla (From Godzilla Rage Across Time)
ive always wondered. does anyone think the fights kong had in hallow earth effected his ability to fight g-man at 100% i mean venomus war bat vs mammal likely has after effects right? neither one could beat mecha-g alone clearly. but if i had to put my money on a 100% strength kaiju.....id still have to say kong assuming he still has the axe.
OH MY GODNESS THANK YOU SO MUCH EXACTLY I WANT ULTIMA TO BE SHOWN MORE LET HIM WIN SOMETIMES HES NOT EVEN THAT WEAK THANK YOU OMG #Sharemoreloveforgodzillaultima!
What many people forget is that Godzilla is a multi-dimensional reality Bender so he would have reality bending capabilities and resurrect if killed And if things got crazy enough he could accidentally end all the reality like he was going to do in the show
@@arandomguy7110 I don’t gaf if it controls 50 dimensions he’s still gonna lose we can all agree to an extent Godzilla body bagged every king gihdora there is to date whos also a multi universe and multidimensional creature gihdorah the legendary one would more the likely body Godzilla ultima as well
Ultima is already insanely more powerful than legendary godzilla. You can’t say legendary can kill a god capable of collapsing universes and has immense strength and durability, keep in mind ultima can also evolve. Like shin, and even if you guys still think he would loose to legendary, realize that ultima would just get stronger. (He already is a ton stronger and better in every way)
Why legendary Godzilla does win the fight due Godzilla Ultima being the shadow of the Archtypes he would come back at a later stronger than he was last time
@@vegetatheballer2426 He's weak. You can deny it all you want, but all the kaiju in singular point are weak. His abilities and feats showcased aren't all that impressive. He barely does anything and compared to other Godzillas and the damage they cause, he's fails to impress. His design is nice though.
@@legendarywolverine5529 Absoulte clown, legendary is weak, every monsters in Monsterverse are weak they were nerfed by realism, they get hurt by missles alot, in novelization of G2K14, Godzilla gets hurt by missles
And also while I do think MV is the strongest in type MOVIES, there are still the comic Godzilla’s that are like multi star and shit, while MV Godzilla in base is planet, and the highest he can get is low solar system which is his thermo form
@@jessicahoover1546 no im not, i don't even like ultima that much nor do i like the show. Im just a guy with a fictional brain, but i do find it funny how pepole like you allways try to call me a fanboy and never give good arguments lol.
@@jessicahoover1546 also no monsterverse is not the strongest he is actually pretty weak in comparasion to many other godzillas, even his burning godzilla form is kinda underwhelming when compared to other godzillas.
Alright what I see is A minecraft player with op modded armor with a sword called "the feat sword" which is op but is playing on hardcore I also see a terraria player with wooden armor but every time he dies he gets stronger gear until eventually he can take out the minecraft player This is basically this fight godzilla is the minecraft player and the Ultima is the terraria player (Like If you understand what I mean or don't your choice)