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Going Deeper with Nayte Olukoya: “I’m Not A F*ckboy” | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall 

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Welcome back to another episode of The Viall Files, Going Deeper Edition! Today we have a very exciting episode where we are joined by Nayte Olukoya of Bach Nation, where he tells all regarding his shocking breakup with Michelle Young. To kick things off, we dive into some pop culture topics, such as breaking down the controversy of “Spitgate” where it is alleged that Harry Styles spat on Chris Pine during the Venice Film Festival showing of the upcoming movie, Don’t Worry Darling. Was this just two friends messing around or is this something deeper? We also talk about the newest TikTok from Emily Ratajkowski joking that she prefers “ugly men” amid her split from her cheating husband Sebastian Bear-McClard, and we then dive into talking about the difference between hot ugly and ugly hot. After the pop culture, we get into our interview with Nayte, where he talks about the events that lead to the breakup, how they broke up over the phone, and how the pressures of social media affected their personal lives. We also talk about why Michelle blocked Nayte, how Nayte plans to heal, and how Nayte broke up with someone different from who he fell in love with. We get emotional while laying everything out, so tune in for this very special interview. After the interview, we bring in one of our Texting Office Hours callers, who needs help with her boyfriend that isn’t acting like someone with a label should.
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@Alli_bossmama
@Alli_bossmama 2 года назад
I love how Nayte was able to articulate so much empathy for the pressure that Michelle has had to feel from being both the bachelorette and a sweet schoolteacher in the public eye, and acknowledge how he has not personally had to be under that level of pressure and scrutiny. That kind of empathy to still have for an ex, even after such a painful break up is so beautiful. ❤️
@monagracia8513
@monagracia8513 2 года назад
Well he is one who hang out with all of other guys without jealousy, he broke with her over phone. There is no reason for him to be bitter?
@vanessageorge2027
@vanessageorge2027 2 года назад
If he had empathy he would not trow her under the bus, its a wilful act, just how he's talking empathy on the podcast he should have established it in the relationship rather than quitting, a quitter is never a winner 🏆
@cmagee28029
@cmagee28029 Год назад
People who lack the ability to have empathy won't understand it. Nayte was more in love than Michelle, she appeared to be more infatuated with his looks and him as a person. They didn't get a chance to build a foundation. Playing her role in celebrity got in front of the relationship unfortunately. Pray the best for both. Nayte's challenge is to meet someone who really gets him, not just hung up on his beauty, his beautiful heart.
@DistortedV12
@DistortedV12 Год назад
man never really cared for her and ended it himself so not as wounded
@championsareessential
@championsareessential 2 года назад
I wish the show would offer relationship therapy to the engaged couples. It's a touch situation to get engaged in two months and later navigate outside the Bachelor Nation bubble. All the best to Nayte and Michelle.
@4inlovewithmusic
@4inlovewithmusic 2 года назад
Love this idea!!!
@harrylederman1679
@harrylederman1679 2 года назад
The producers don't seem to care which is sad
@ItsNod
@ItsNod 2 года назад
I agree, it's lonely in these streets 😔
@reethuabraham3186
@reethuabraham3186 2 года назад
Main reason Peter Krause denied the Bachelor offer. Relationship therapy was one of his demands along with the $$. They said no, Peter was like ✌🏽.
@efan4evr
@efan4evr 2 года назад
This!!!
@tonibrooks9719
@tonibrooks9719 2 года назад
I absolutely loved this interview. My goodness, Nayte is so authentic, vulnerable and sincere. Credit to you Nick for making him feel comfortable with sharing his perspective on their breakup. A good interview has a lot to do with the person interviewing. Nayte has just captured our hearts. I found myself tearing up when he was tearing up. The best interview yet! Phenomenal job.❤️❤️❤️
@zabrealwynne9652
@zabrealwynne9652 2 года назад
He is a good guy…i hope he finds love
@ItsNod
@ItsNod 2 года назад
He wasn't ready I don't know y they forced him to go through with it. I wish it was the other guy. He was more authentic.
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 2 года назад
@@ItsNod he should’ve been honest, but instead he did take her along under false pretenses for what was likely fame..
@laubeau
@laubeau 2 года назад
I enjoyed this interview. Nayte handled this well. I look forward to seeing what the future holds for him.
@jennifergravitt7872
@jennifergravitt7872 2 года назад
Was really awesome to see this side of him, and get his side of the story. Nothing sexier than a vulnerable man. I was over here choked up too...
@sethunyan
@sethunyan 2 года назад
Kudos to Nayte for speaking his truth,he gets a lot of hate but hes a class act.Really enjoyed the interview❤️
@cmagee28029
@cmagee28029 2 года назад
He was authentic, is a classy guy. Michelle had problems with the pressure, the fame. Pray she can grow through this as well, learn to be comfortable in her own skin.
@jackiebenjamin8772
@jackiebenjamin8772 2 года назад
Because some think that everytime there is a breakup, blame the man, which is not always true.
@hollymarie6764
@hollymarie6764 2 года назад
He did an amazing job of speaking his truth while not making Michelle a villain. I am happy he spoke his truth because he has gotten shit from the moment he stepped out of the limo.
@kamalastromwall9275
@kamalastromwall9275 2 года назад
If the bachelor franchise actually cared about the well being of their couples they would offer them monthly couple counseling for a year in order to help them establish good communication skills. Last night's episode I kept thinking, Jesse is not a counselor. Let's get an actual counselor on this show!!
@ULuvBobs_92
@ULuvBobs_92 2 года назад
Couples counsellors ruin more relationships than they help
@lizzyw7861
@lizzyw7861 2 года назад
Idk. I personally bought into all this therapy works stuff. I went to very good therapists over 3 years and NOTHING changed. They didn’t help at all. So I no longer believe in therapy. Look, if people are decent people and they love each other, it will work. Please don’t believe in this “open communication” & “having the right tools” stuff. People do not change. I believe the reason we (as a society) are so into therapy & hear it everywhere is because people make A LOT of money from us going to therapy.
@ULuvBobs_92
@ULuvBobs_92 2 года назад
@@lizzyw7861 I know people who have gone to individual therapy and it seemed to help them but couples therapy seems to not have a great track record. I think it might help some couples learn to communicate better but people have to want to change.
@ellencooper5497
@ellencooper5497 Год назад
​@@ULuvBobs_92
@Godiswith_HER
@Godiswith_HER Год назад
I think that’s a great idea 💡
@lesleywiley4324
@lesleywiley4324 2 года назад
Props to Nick in this one. I think he’s always asks great questions, but has a tendency to over talk and didn’t in this and he absolutely got this one perfect.
@OmahPetite
@OmahPetite 2 года назад
I didn’t think I’ll believe him but weirdly I do.. he said his truth without bad mouthing Michelle.. I honestly put all the blame on him and even unfollowed him but damn.. when he choked up, I lost it.. I’m still crying.. you can still see he has tons of love for her.. sometimes relationships don’t work and it’s okay.. a broken engagement is better than a broken marriage! I wish them both the best individually..
@zabrealwynne9652
@zabrealwynne9652 2 года назад
Same
@jaykaywest112
@jaykaywest112 2 года назад
He is a salesman and smooth talker. Bottom line he is a dog. Exactly what he is accusing her of he was doing when he returned to Austin after the show. Engaged men who are truly in love don’t hang out nightly in clubs.
@OmahPetite
@OmahPetite 2 года назад
@@jaykaywest112 that’s your opinion but there’s nothing wrong with an engaged man or woman hanging out at night clubs as long as they’re aren’t doing anything disrespectful to their partners.. I’m married and both myself and hubby club, sometimes together and other times by ourselves with our friends.. and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that!!
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@OmahPetite yeah but Michelle lied about the messages from the country singer! That breaks trusts immediately
@zumbawitharachelchel5078
@zumbawitharachelchel5078 2 года назад
Thank you for your comment. I was ready to ignore this interview until I read your comment and gave him.a chance. And now I understand him better.
@deniseharvey211
@deniseharvey211 2 года назад
One of the best interviews I’ve seen you do and I love the fact that we got his honest view on what happened in their relationship.
@madisonschultz8217
@madisonschultz8217 2 года назад
Amazing. Great job Viall Files team for creating a space where he was comfortable to be open and honest
@tiadantzler6533
@tiadantzler6533 2 года назад
Great interview. I felt he handled this delicate situation upright!!
@kimwarner8848
@kimwarner8848 2 года назад
This is the type of interview where Nick style shines! One of my favorite shows. Thanks,
@kristakdahl
@kristakdahl 2 года назад
His episodes that are like the “tell all” I think are his best because he does a great job of making it about the person he is interviewing instead of just/all about the drama, break up, etc.
@bdrp99
@bdrp99 2 года назад
I'd love to hear her perspective on the situation. Honestly I hope they can at least have a friendship in the future cause they really meshed so well on the show. Sad to see how the TV world affects people.
@sharleenmagetto5051
@sharleenmagetto5051 2 года назад
I don't think it's the tv, they were just never compatible
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@sharleenmagetto5051 agreed
@irmarfrank1005
@irmarfrank1005 2 года назад
This was a great interview especially Nick making it so comfortable for Nayte to be vulnerable and share what was clearly very emotional for him. I respect him for being respectful and staying quiet about the breakup till now. I get how Michelle left the show still in control and lead mode instead of being a partner. It is normal for him to have felt like a mismatch and frustrated not having any control in his relationship. I never saw him as a F boy on the show, he is a great looking young man. BEST WISHES TO HIM.
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 2 года назад
He should’ve been honest with her before she chose him though rather than allow it to happen when he wasn’t ready. I can’t imagine how it felt to Michelle bc it does seem as tho he let it continue due to the fame advantage..
@irmarfrank1005
@irmarfrank1005 2 года назад
@@SupernaturalLove100 How did you arrive at that, from the podcast? I don't think he wasn't ready, it appears they were not compatible which lead to many misunderstandings and arguments and the best thing and healthiest thing was to break up. The show does not allow for the luxury of dating and getting to know someone before that kind of commitment. Also, there's no guarantee that if she ended with anyone else it would have lasted. Check the stats on how many of these relationships last. So why single out Nayte? He was right to break it off if it wasn't working.
@juliaguiney856
@juliaguiney856 2 года назад
such an interesting conversation, Nayte was so open and honest and I loved listening more than any other Bach guest you've had
@brooker8970
@brooker8970 2 года назад
That call was so relatable! We all just want to be all in and love someone without hesitation.. That much is evident. But it’s SO scary.
@Urmomlovesyoutube
@Urmomlovesyoutube 2 года назад
When he was talking compatability and wanting someone whose his equal and not his coach… I feel that vibe from Michelle. You can tell she def has that coach/teacher vibe and some people don’t want that for their partner. Girl, not everyone is your student, gotta learn to let go of control sometimes.
@zumbawitharachelchel5078
@zumbawitharachelchel5078 2 года назад
She was probably on teacher Mode 24 / 7 and that would suck for him. Now I understand why Michele decided NOT TO BE teacher for this school year...maybe she realized that there needs to be an adjustment on her part. Maybe 🤷‍♀️
@jackiebenjamin8772
@jackiebenjamin8772 2 года назад
I know a couple who often told his wife to remember when she is at home, drop the teacher attitude and remember she is his wife, partner and friend, he is not one of her students.
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
As a teacher I agree with you 100%
@shariaali9052
@shariaali9052 2 года назад
Makes sense! Cause she seems to be letting loose & enjoying living life
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@shariaali9052 agreed! And she also needs to have more self confidence. I find she depended too much on man's validation to feel worthy. Most men find that burdensome
@GK-rv9nw
@GK-rv9nw 2 года назад
I feel like Nayte was skipping some details leading to their breakup in order to protect Michelle, you know tried not to make her look bad.
@BATOOLESK
@BATOOLESK 2 года назад
I saw that too
@cierralowery7096
@cierralowery7096 2 года назад
Class act
@Badnewsfeminist
@Badnewsfeminist 2 года назад
Agreed, seems like a decent guy who is just trying to clear his name from all the hate when they broke up
@lostcausel3929
@lostcausel3929 2 года назад
He didn’t seem like he left out anything, especially revealing that they discussed breaking up 3 times prior. That totally makes Michelle look bad because she said she wasn’t expecting it. I am sure in all of those conversations they both agreed to push through. So, for Michelle, I am sure she felt blind-sided because they agreed to push through.
@GK-rv9nw
@GK-rv9nw 2 года назад
@@lostcausel3929 maybe that was the case, but he was holding back on details that could make her look even more bad, at the end of the day we can only wish healing to both of them. But I’m glad Nayte has shared his side of the story and maybe people will be judge him a little less and be graceful as they are to Michelle.
@annikad1345
@annikad1345 2 года назад
Nayte interview starts at 16:14
@brookeb.1476
@brookeb.1476 2 года назад
tysm I was looking for this comment lol
@Itsme-bi9bi
@Itsme-bi9bi 2 года назад
Me 2
@elaineeggert7054
@elaineeggert7054 2 года назад
Bump lol
@awadiakhate1062
@awadiakhate1062 2 года назад
Thank you lol because the beginning was annoying
@terriluoto6139
@terriluoto6139 2 года назад
Nick, your kindness and compassion set the stage for a ‘doors wide open’ interview with Nate, thank you. And thank you Nate for being so vulnerable, I have been of fan of you every step of your BN experience. I wish you the best life ever…Nick, I am going to pre-order your book, your ability to teach people how to respect themselves et al is top drawer. I wish I’d had it when I was dating. I too am transparent in a very respectful of others kind of way. It’s the only way to be.
@tortreks
@tortreks 2 года назад
Nayte, you're so sweet! You will find your sweetheart! Thanks for being so honest and forthcoming :)
@2cents_ish
@2cents_ish Год назад
I've been a Nayte fan from day one and never doubted him one bit. I cried through most of this episode. Gosh I just wanted to give him a big hug😪💔. Sending love and best wishes
@momotara00
@momotara00 2 года назад
Never one who doubted Nayte, and glad to see him be able to take up some space with sharing his experience of things. He did it with gentleness, grace and as much honesty as he can, given the circumstances. Michelle is undoubtedly lovely and powerful, but I can also imagine it's not easy to have his experience seemingly "trumped" by or sullied in comparison to the one of a 'lead' as cherished as Michelle is. Clearly he could still only skim the surface of things, but I hope people can at the very least see glimpses of his authenticity and kind heart. When the time is right, I hope he finds a partner who he can feel playful, safe and loved with!
@reginapeixotocarneirodasil5609
@reginapeixotocarneirodasil5609 2 года назад
We can appreciate Nayte's point of view and sincerity without having to doubt Michelle. We don't always have a right or wrong person in a break-up and I definitely think that's what happened. It helped me understand Nayte better, but it doesn't make me view Michelle any differently.
@JuneBee9606
@JuneBee9606 2 года назад
THANK YOU ❤️ same thoughts.
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
As a woman this interview let me see her differently! The part about the messages and country singer was a big turn off! We as women need to realize that not all men are evil and have bad intentions. Some women can be very evil!
@reginapeixotocarneirodasil5609
@reginapeixotocarneirodasil5609 2 года назад
@@coppersulphate002 sure! but as a woman, I am never just going to hear a man's side of the story and ignore the woman's point of view. Like I said, we're not in court to flag either Michelle or Nayte as guilty or not guilty in this painful break-up.
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@reginapeixotocarneirodasil5609 I never said that you should ignore a woman's side! But dont assume because she is a woman that automatically means that she's a victim! And I would hope that your moral compass is in tact to know the differences between right from wrong and thus feel that lying about a message received from another guy is wrong.
@chele4real453
@chele4real453 2 года назад
Great interview. Glad Nayte decided to tell his side. Have always felt like he was a decent guy and was being judged unfairly. Wish him the best as he moves forward.
@eh1126
@eh1126 2 года назад
1:23:15 I love that Nayte was quiet the whole time and then delivered the perfect answer for the caller. He’s right though, this situation has red flags all over!
@angielena5566
@angielena5566 2 года назад
I dunno if it’s my love for Nayte but I agree with Nick, I empathise with him His voice was even breaking when he was talking about how he broke up with her
@beardc9287
@beardc9287 2 года назад
Nayte felt like he was damned if he do, damned if he don’t so he took the I don’t give a damn approach and told his side of the story
@anarubino4105
@anarubino4105 2 года назад
wow great interview watched the whole thing, Nayte seems genuine
@tara4109
@tara4109 2 года назад
I feel like it’s only fair to hear Michelle’s side of things because this is just his perspective.
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 2 года назад
Yes but I don't think she wants to share it and fair enough too
@mikalabanasch7177
@mikalabanasch7177 2 года назад
So relieved to hear Naytes' level of awareness. (..wanting a partner not a coach). Post show interviews had me very concerned for him. The dynamic was definetely 'power over'(power/control, domination/repression). I hope Michelle finds books on Compassionate communication aka NonViolent communication. Thank you Nayte for your precious gift of Authentic transparency.
@marlla001
@marlla001 2 года назад
Non violent ?? did Nayte say Michelle was violent communicator ?
@denisewj2679
@denisewj2679 2 года назад
Really! Have you heard Michelle's side? These two should trash out their differences in private,. Didn't he say he is a private person? Pity party is on.
@ItsNod
@ItsNod 2 года назад
Mike was spot on about Nayte
@mikalabanasch7177
@mikalabanasch7177 2 года назад
@@marlla001 Seems like you might need to inform yourself about the range scope & types of communication that are "violent, repressive, oppressive, overbearing, non consensual, non mutual, inconsiderate, disrespectful, etc etc. Its empowering to learn subtle forms of "violence"
@marlla001
@marlla001 2 года назад
@@mikalabanasch7177 and how would you know what type of communication she did; cause I didn’t hear him say anything about that , actually he didn’t reveal anything about why they were fighting about; very convenient for him lol what did he say in those fights on his end ? do you know ? What his type of communication since you’re an expert ?
@halla7346
@halla7346 2 года назад
That long pause after "are there ever moments where you miss her?" was TOO LOUD 💀
@user-df4wr7qp2d
@user-df4wr7qp2d 2 года назад
he in fact does not LMAO
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
and there is nothing wrong with that! I saw there were a lot of red flags with Michelle throughout her show.
@ricai132
@ricai132 2 года назад
@@coppersulphate002 What were there?
@michelleriggs2571
@michelleriggs2571 2 года назад
@@coppersulphate002 I agree with Ricai... what were these red flags?
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@michelleriggs2571 go watch her season again! Her entire seasoned screamed " I need validation from men to make me feel like a woman and loved because I never had it because In mixed race" For men that is burdensome. Men like women who are confident in who they are; don't have baggage and have a positive outlook on life.
@5jonesmetiene
@5jonesmetiene 2 года назад
Nayte is so good with his words and vulnerability. Amazing interview. I am in awe of him. And it seemed they were too.
@zumbawitharachelchel5078
@zumbawitharachelchel5078 2 года назад
Gives the viewers a better understanding why Michele picked him. His wording or phrasing is admirable, at least to me.
@teeshteesh2926
@teeshteesh2926 2 года назад
Love to both nayte and Michelle ❤ hoping for more real conversations like this in the future on viall files, I found it so insightful
@niaakyaa1880
@niaakyaa1880 2 года назад
So glad he was given the space to share his side of the story. I don’t understand this agenda of trying to make Nayte out to be this villain Rachel Lindsay always talks about the pressure of being the bachelorette, and how easy it is to fall into the trap of being perfect & it seems like that got the best of Michelle🤷🏾‍♀️
@GK-rv9nw
@GK-rv9nw 2 года назад
Exactly!!
@ayeeshahm9078
@ayeeshahm9078 2 года назад
She's also a teacher and used to being a role model for her students, so I guess that compounded it.
@zabrealwynne9652
@zabrealwynne9652 2 года назад
True
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
@@ayeeshahm9078 exactly! However I dont understand why she would delete and lie about messages from a country singer! That really bothered me!
@fanjaandrianaivo5694
@fanjaandrianaivo5694 2 года назад
Thanks Nayte for sharing and being vulnerable. I am glad that I am one of those few people who never doubted you. I wish you find you find your person soon. All the best!!! Dont change a thing. You are awesome ✌️
@alannashea6344
@alannashea6344 2 года назад
I love how he goes into detail about Michelle and what she did or didn’t do or mistakes she made but he’s very vague about his mistakes and problems he caused in the relationship . He’s putting most of the blame on her.
@KaraDep87
@KaraDep87 2 года назад
Yep!
@c_louie670
@c_louie670 2 года назад
This. Also while Michelle was working Nayte and Rodney were traveling and partying and said on the last podcast with Michelle how annoying he was that people assumed he talking to girls on bars is he filtering and how supportive of Michelle was for taking the one year break, seems like Michelle was ready to focus in the relationship and Nayte was already ready to leave. The fact that he didn't acknowledge his mistakes makes me not believe him, I hope Michelle will respond.
@alannashea6344
@alannashea6344 2 года назад
@@c_louie670 same! He keeps saying they would fight or Michelle did this or that but why were they fighting??? He’s leaving that part out.
@harrylederman1679
@harrylederman1679 2 года назад
I would rate this interaction up with Howard Stern interviews....... Stern would get the interviewee to open up and spill their guts irrespective of the level of Fame that person had achieved..... This interview was on the same level and congratulations to Nick for relating so well to Nayte who is fantastic opening up this vulnerable side.... Great entertainment and I feel for Nayte
@MaishaOnTop
@MaishaOnTop 2 года назад
"Maybe fame got to Michelle" Lmfao! They both share their wrongs but I don't believe that for one bit and it's sad so many people in the comments are falling for this. If fame really got to Michelle, she'd make the most of it and milk it to the max by being much more active on social media but she actually is the one who is the least present of social media. It doesn't make sense at all. Michelle is not an attention seeker. Y'all are sending me 😂
@rays.3242
@rays.3242 2 года назад
Exactly! Nayte is a fboy and is trying to change ppl's perception
@Urmomlovesyoutube
@Urmomlovesyoutube 2 года назад
I think for her it was about control.. controlling their image and perception etc..
@annabananazz
@annabananazz 2 года назад
I'm so with you
@SB-qf9yt
@SB-qf9yt 2 года назад
To the caller at the end: He's just not that into you. Move on.
@nadinekba8989
@nadinekba8989 2 года назад
Wow this is amazing! Good for you Nate 👏🏻
@bodaciousshenanigans7171
@bodaciousshenanigans7171 2 года назад
Everyone has their opinion on what happened or didn’t happen. But personality wise, Nayte seems to be free spirited, laid back and chill. Michelle seems to be more on the conservative side and a bit structured. I can definitely see where that would create some conflict. And if they realized they’re not compatible, it sucks but it’s life, and everyone has experienced incompatibility in some way shape or form in relationships and even in friendships. I’m glad they didn’t continue to try and force it which only makes things worst. They will be fine regardless of negative outside opinions and I wish them well.
@vwchik7777
@vwchik7777 2 года назад
One more amazing interview that proves that these keyboard warriors and the court of public opinion is the biggest hunk of bullshit on the planet. Their relationship after the show is none of our business. they are good people. both of them. Relationships end BADLY or they would never END. period. Great episode!
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 2 года назад
That is nearly a Ben Flajnik turned down by Ashley quote!
@elaineeggert7054
@elaineeggert7054 2 года назад
My first time listening/watching and Nick, you turned me into a fan! Fantastic interview
@sophie9658
@sophie9658 2 года назад
Ultimately seems like just two different people. He seems like a lovely care free person and maybe after a while the fun stage wore off and she wanted more stability and a mature relationship.
@seven92023
@seven92023 2 года назад
Sounds like she was more concerned with her image rather than the relationship. And she tried to coach him but that's not how it works. On the other hand, he seems soft and inexperienced, especially for someone like her.
@teaando2278
@teaando2278 2 года назад
He says "I would never say this and that about Michelle, BUT..." (that she is insecure, that he did not trust her etc.) a lot, just to then continue to state exactly that.
@halla7346
@halla7346 2 года назад
Just finished watching the interview. I went into this being a bit icey with Nayte. Now, I understand him and see him as his own human. His line about Michelle feeling "more of a coach, and not a partner" validate that being in the public eye put pressure on Michelle and ultimately, their relationship. It's still unclear to me how their communication and boundaries were around this. It sounds like they got caught up in the storm with no foundation and got swept up. He also refers to the beginning of their relationship as "fun", but felt like something shifted afterwards and they were arguing more. I'm not clear what foundations they put in place past the honeymoon phase. Or even better, if Nayte was ready to establish a real foundation beyond "fun". A relationship isn't the same as a friendship - there are ups and downs, and serious choices involved. They both had their own stressors and weren't each other's person. We can't be mad about that. What matters most at the end of the day is that they both learned from their mistakes and moved on and become better in their next relationship.
@niaakyaa1880
@niaakyaa1880 2 года назад
Love this perspective
@shereewilliams3247
@shereewilliams3247 2 года назад
Love it to. My thought about the “fun” not that he didn’t expect tough days but the good/fun days need to outnumber the bad and it seemed that changed. Relationships can be fun and healthy because you need this foundation to get through the storms.
@epiphanyperry1877
@epiphanyperry1877 2 года назад
Good perspective but it doesn't mean they weren't each other's person, it sounds more like they didn't have the tools or seek the tools to practice effective communication
@epiphanyperry1877
@epiphanyperry1877 2 года назад
I like him and unfortunately they should have withdrawn from public appearances while building their relationship. Many couples who would easily survive normal life cant successfully navigate the spotlight. The first successful bachelor couple Ryan and Trista spent significant time alone away from the spotlight.
@pattyduke3079
@pattyduke3079 2 года назад
@@epiphanyperry1877 🤔Some of their worst fights came after public appearances. Wan go Tango for example.
@januism16
@januism16 2 года назад
Omg that country music singer message thread part 👀.... I would have trust issues after that too
@foxjacket
@foxjacket 2 года назад
Yeah that was very sus. She wasn't honest and she basically stonewalled him. One of the four horsemen in relationships according to Gottman.
@karlabc9251
@karlabc9251 2 года назад
Suggestion: I get that this show is mainly for listening (podcast) but an you please use the big screen besides Nick to put a picture of who u are talking about. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@CamillaCarter
@CamillaCarter 2 года назад
Seems like Nayte expected the relationship to stay carefree and fun, as it was in the beginning but Michelle got to a point that she needed it to be more serious and less chasing insects at night. They’re just not compatible, think Michelle just wanted a more mature relationship than he did.
@nicolehernandez11
@nicolehernandez11 2 года назад
It sounds like they didn’t know how to fight/communicate.
@TheJakeMarc
@TheJakeMarc 2 года назад
Wonder if the country singer was Chase Rice. That man does love the bachelorette world lol
@klausking7537
@klausking7537 2 года назад
Michelle might have seemed easy to get along with on the show, but i think when you get closer you realise that she has a complicated personality. It's also obvious that fame played a part in ruining it for them
@tesschamp1451
@tesschamp1451 2 года назад
People will always blame Nayte because Michelle is their sweet all american girl next door, but can we all agree that country musician story is a big 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
@TheFutureofCheer
@TheFutureofCheer 2 года назад
I’ve been scanning the comments trying to figure out what country music star it is!! Lol
@wakanda6754
@wakanda6754 2 года назад
@@TheFutureofCheer someone said it was Kane Brown
@lostcausel3929
@lostcausel3929 2 года назад
No relationship will last with just fun. Relationships are work and that will never change. And life happens and you have to get through the boring parts of a relationship, which comes and go. He was never ready to be married. If an argument scares you, then I recommend never being married. Because arguments will occur but it’s how you work through them that is telling. Living in different places, especially, after an engagement didn’t help this relationship. They only saw the good side of each other during the show and when they saw the other side of one another it seems as if one of them couldn’t handle it. This is the issue with the franchise, these people need mandatory therapy during the airing of the show and after the show.
@md3400
@md3400 2 года назад
100% this.
@emywillis2825
@emywillis2825 2 года назад
Why are people not understanding what Nayte is saying? It’s not about a bed of. roses. Michelle was listening to her friends and making the relationship toxic for Nayte. As a man of African descendant, it is not healthy to continue to live for the public/show. He was right to end it even though he was also heartbroken.
@realitytvtherapy
@realitytvtherapy 2 года назад
Nick, great interview. You created an atmosphere of safety to help Nayte open up. I came to see the full interview because on IG, they cut this up with Nayte saying, 'I'm a FB, ' which is not exactly what he said. It felt like Nayte was filtering to protect Michelle like there was more to say, but good for him, this was enough. Nayte received a lot of bad press, and as he said, people have been projecting things about him since he was young, so he wants to clear his name. For the sake of fairness would like to hear Michelle's side, too, as she reported feeling blindsided.
@coppersulphate002
@coppersulphate002 2 года назад
I don't expect her to be absolutely honest! For some reason I trust Nayte more!
@foxjacket
@foxjacket 2 года назад
Texting office hours: He doesn't want to be in a relationship with you, otherwise it would have happened from the get go even if you weren't in the same town. Not talking in June? What? He's not interested! Him saying that he missed you - sure, but that still doesn't mean he's capable of giving you what you want. After 3 days of no texting, stick a fork in it, this is done like dinner. You're right, if you didn't text, you wouldn't hear from him. If it were me I'd text "I want to break up. It's been a slice. See ya around." Because you shouldn't be putting up with this and when you have to ask, hey you said you wanted to be my bf, why aren't you being my bf, it's because... he doesn't actually want to be your bf. This isn't a misunderstanding or not laying out expectations; he's actually not interested and/or able to give you want you want.
@MarkeeCoco
@MarkeeCoco 2 года назад
I agree. Sounded very obvious right off the bat.
@samara4645
@samara4645 2 года назад
There’s always two sides to story. If u love each other you fight for it. I knew Mitchelle did love nayte while he was still trying to figure it out. Nick should interview Mitchelle
@laubeau
@laubeau 2 года назад
“I miss the Michelle I fell in love with for sure…I am not sure I miss the Michelle I broke up with” 😕
@shereewilliams3247
@shereewilliams3247 2 года назад
He was being honest and I respect that.
@laubeau
@laubeau 2 года назад
@@shereewilliams3247 Oh same here. I am happy he finally spoke his truth. Fame really does change a person…I wish both Michelle and Nayte the best.
@nishahamaad7629
@nishahamaad7629 2 года назад
That's was honest I respect him for that
@MaishaOnTop
@MaishaOnTop 2 года назад
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard from him. We're supposed to believe that Michelle drastically changed in the span of 8 months with him? He just wanted the relationship to be fun peaches and roses 24/7 but turns out it's not. That's it.
@maf2217
@maf2217 2 года назад
@@laubeau Yes. Since there are always two side to a story with the truth in the middle. Michell should tell her side because he sounded let it was all her fault. Could be but I would like to hear side, if she wish to tell it. Love them both,
@epiphanyperry1877
@epiphanyperry1877 2 года назад
A person who hasn't navigated a loving relationship before or effectively resolved trust and communication issues will have difficulty recognizing the differences between deal breakers and normal conflict. The request for her to prove her story was extremely problematic on both parts.. They should have included couples counseling in their relationship especially because of their circumstances.
@annabananazz
@annabananazz 2 года назад
Yes!! I audibly gasped when he said that he made her call her friend to "prove it" 🚩🚩🚩
@epiphanyperry1877
@epiphanyperry1877 2 года назад
@@annabananazz that was terrible
@zumbawitharachelchel5078
@zumbawitharachelchel5078 2 года назад
@@annabananazz imagine Nate's feeling when Michelle's friend didn't know what she was talking about. It seemed too shady that he had to confirm from a friend and that friend didn't help clarify the issue. So Nate must have felt it was definitely called for and turned out it was. Just my 2 cents.
@misssafo7267
@misssafo7267 2 года назад
Nayte I loved you on the bachelorette but I love you even more after this interview. Keep been great
@Alli_bossmama
@Alli_bossmama 2 года назад
I also love how you can tell that @NickViall is totally enjoying every part of this interview, because he’s sitting so comfortably. ☺️He’s just kind of enamored and lost in Nayte‘s words, lol.
@veratoday6424
@veratoday6424 2 года назад
The number of times they say “like” is crazy. But like Nayte is like beautiful.
@brookeb.1476
@brookeb.1476 2 года назад
Yeah, like, it really, like, bothered me, but, like, I guess that’s just, like, the way, like, everyone talks now. It’s like the new “um”. Lmao
@Magicritamrs
@Magicritamrs 2 года назад
Good interview. Great job Nayte.
@LifeOfAmlet
@LifeOfAmlet 2 года назад
I think for the caller, he doesn’t sound like he’s into her. Men love to chase and woo when they’re into someone. He’s not putting in any effort.
@KaraDep87
@KaraDep87 2 года назад
I do feel a bit unsettled not hearing Michelle’s side. I take it as, they just had two very different communication styles and couldn’t see I eye to eye. Maybe neither were more right or wrong… who knows. They just weren’t meant to be for the long hall
@brittneytock
@brittneytock 2 года назад
I believe Nayte. I can totally see Michelle having another side of her. And I think she showed it and it got nasty and he didn’t like it. I think she probably got really insecure and let some of the allegations get to her.
@alexsa21
@alexsa21 2 года назад
Hey Nick, why didn't you ask Nayte about the $200k spilt?
@nishahamaad7629
@nishahamaad7629 2 года назад
The only thing nick 4get hehehehehe ,probably becz he was emotional too
@Plez_Chill
@Plez_Chill 2 года назад
Damn that’s what I came to know too!!
@kathleentheg
@kathleentheg 2 года назад
I felt Michelle was very different on her season from when she was on Matt's season. To me she went into full teacher mode and felt very calculated (not in a malicious way, but in a very controlled way with all the eyes on her being the Bachelorette). I bet that crossed into their relationship where she bossed him around or put on her teacher role. I can see how she may have tried to control everything and make him and herself perfect, instead of being real. Best to both of them, it wasn't meant to work. Maybe Michelle will learn to let go and get more comfortable with her fame. And they both will find someone they work well with.
@4inlovewithmusic
@4inlovewithmusic 2 года назад
Couldn’t agree more
@cbailey2487
@cbailey2487 2 года назад
💯 I saw that behavior in her in the interviews they did. She was the one to always talk, it was all about her being the best at everything, he could do nothing right in her eyes. I wondered how long he was going to put up with that.
@sethunyan
@sethunyan 2 года назад
💯 agree with this.
@noorainc9310
@noorainc9310 2 года назад
Yes!! The wango tango interviews really hit this spot on for me, the way he stated it wasn’t a good weekend but she was trying to act perfect for the interviews and it didn’t come off authentic or natural. Not worth losing your relationship over
@Urmomlovesyoutube
@Urmomlovesyoutube 2 года назад
Yeah he said he wants a partner not a coach 👀🤷🏽‍♀️
@corystube
@corystube 2 года назад
I call BS. He broke up with her over the phone after saying his family never seen him so happy and he knew Michelle was the one. He ran the moment it got a little bumpy. What he calls having break up conversations was probably what a mature person would call having disagreements. Like did Michelle know they were talking about breaking up? Kinda makes me think she didn't.
@annabananazz
@annabananazz 2 года назад
Yeppp
@jannettemorris7540
@jannettemorris7540 2 года назад
Wow great interview my heartbreaks for him 😢🥺😭
@kyylamarie
@kyylamarie 2 года назад
i feel like nayte wanted to stay in the honeymoon stage forever of having fun and just “being kids”. he hasn’t had much experience being in love while michelle seems like such a perfectionist, busy, mature person all while in the public eye.. definitely cards stacked against them. maybe the pressures of a real relationship with real problems was new to nayte and he may have felt like michelle projected on him and possibly micromanaged while she was just trying her best under pressure. heart goes out to both of them, seems like neither at fault really but that it just wasn’t gonna work :(
@karlabc9251
@karlabc9251 2 года назад
Yup! Exactly. This is basically his first real relationship. It was doomed from the beginning.
@nwandoe3599
@nwandoe3599 2 года назад
you are majorly projecting an identity onto Nayte. michelle could have been a sociopath for all you know. maybe she had extreme histrionic personality disorder or was bipolar i... maybe she was uncompromising or extremely jealous and put spyware on his computer and he found out on her birthday weekend. she said on the show she was in a long toxic relationship before, which is a sign of codependence, and codependent people who stay in emotional toxic dynamics for years can have extreme maladaptive, super unhealthy behaviors to be addicted to that type of dynamic. you just never know how people are in relationships behind closed doors. no one can tell from seeing someone as a friend or on a podcast or a tv show how they behave in a relationship because the triggers and stored trauma that relationships stir up are completely unrelated to how mature and busy someone comes across in their public facing duties
@jazzyjay90
@jazzyjay90 2 года назад
@@karlabc9251 not doomed at all…
@jazzyjay90
@jazzyjay90 2 года назад
Honestly they should have still been in that stage… they just meet it was new… there is a lot of pressure… I think the only way they would have been able to survive would have been to remember they love each other. Not everyone wants to argue all the time… it’s draining… they could have benefited from some healthy communication advice… but hey… I wish him well…
@kyylamarie
@kyylamarie 2 года назад
just saying this now that obviously this is just what i gathered from listening to the podcast this morning lol, obviously ANYTHING could’ve happened and we don’t know their relationship
@GorgonTheHybrid
@GorgonTheHybrid 2 года назад
Another great episode! Hope they both find love with the perfect people for them.
@amiyamcentyre891
@amiyamcentyre891 Год назад
one thing i will say is the conversation with the lady at the end of the video had my emotions all over the place
@westybesty
@westybesty 2 года назад
funny how he talks about "getting blocked" but goes around blocking people who support him lol
@lesleywiley4324
@lesleywiley4324 2 года назад
My perception of Nayte definitely changed after watching this. The show edit didn’t do him any favors and he’s so good looking and obv tall and has style and it definitely didn’t help that Michele is loved and rightfully so, but people can still love her and not allow the edit or social media to taint that Nayte is a good person and to realize that not all insanely gorgeous men like Nayte are total DB. I do feel bad bc I was team Brandon and allowed my past history to perceive Nayte like some of the men in my past. I was extremely impressed with Michele and am definitely not those keyboard warriors who goes after these contestants like the haters in bachelor nation and I’m the only one who knows that I felt some type of way about Nayte and I’m calling myself out that I was wrong. He really is sensitive and caring and it’s clear this wasn’t easy. It’s just disappointing bc I wish everyone gave him some grace on this to realize he’s human and break ups are not easy and these are his feelings about how the relationship broke down and even tho Michele seems perfect, the fact of the matter is, she isn’t. Not one hater can truly know what goes on behind closed doors and even those we view as perfect have insecurities.
@whitneyjones8678
@whitneyjones8678 2 года назад
He said LIKE… So Many Times!!! GRRR.. Bothers Me So Much!
@amf235dance
@amf235dance 2 года назад
Interview starts at 16:15
@jess4reallyreal
@jess4reallyreal 2 года назад
So much HEARSAY in this interview lol
@nataliebuckley9313
@nataliebuckley9313 2 года назад
Nayte so candid; I didn't expect him to reveal so much. I also appreciate a man who can be openly vulnerable. I'm sure Michelle has her own side to the story, but at the end of the day, I don't think it's about who's right; they just weren't meant to be together. The only thing I wish you had asked was about what happened to the house they were given! How did that go down? For the caller, I totally get where she's coming from; I've definitely been in a similar place in past relationships. However, she needs to know that this is not her guy. He's not interested. He's dating/f*ckling other people. If he wanted to make the time for her, he would. He says the right things to keep her on the back-burner when things are slow. Do not let this man string you along! You deserve and will find better than that....hopefully someone who knows how to communicate.
@larainememola4374
@larainememola4374 2 года назад
the show did not tell us anything about this wonderful man here, shame on them!! he will make a wonderful hubby to his person!!! wish i were young again!!!! beautiful inside & out!!!
@elizehauptfleisch8233
@elizehauptfleisch8233 2 года назад
You were not compatible. You can love and respect each other but still it will not work out.
@Stephanieleanne94
@Stephanieleanne94 2 года назад
Great interview Nick, very interesting hear Naytes side you can tell he really did care about her and people made him out to be an F boy when there’s clearly more to the story
@JamieMcgee518
@JamieMcgee518 2 года назад
A new couple, three months, probably shouldn't have " really big fights " , sounds like they needed therapy or they just weren't compatible.... At least they tried.
@alyssad7019
@alyssad7019 2 года назад
great video!!! thanks for brightening my day!
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 2 года назад
Then why go along w the proposal if you knew you weren’t ready? I appreciate the honesty but the implicit fact that it was because of the fame and advantages it could bring is kind of obvious
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 2 года назад
Because there would have been so much pressure from producers to propose, saying this is what always happens, leap of faith etc
@ceejay6735
@ceejay6735 Год назад
So I'm not in the least bit surprised at Nayte's authenticity and vulnerability because I truly believed he was who he portrayed himself to be on the show. Others bought into the nonsense online chatter and maligned this man's character so badly. I thought then he was emotionally mature, and this interview proves it beyond measure. I sincerely wish the best for Nayte moving forward. I sincerely hope he finds the true love he deserves. Excellent interview all around by Nick and the ladies. 💕💕
@jasminsweetlove5898
@jasminsweetlove5898 2 года назад
People used to judge Nayte on the bachelorette I liked him on the bachelorette he was my pick for Michelle & now I see how hurt he is you can hear in his voice & all the story he is telling
@-Lily7415
@-Lily7415 2 года назад
Nate said Michelle and he used to act like kids and catch fireflies and he would like it to have continued.I wonder if he just wanted to have fun ? Maybe he and Michelle would fight because whenever she wanted to be serious and have grown up conversations like their future and marriage he felt pressured. ???
@kristinberdis2827
@kristinberdis2827 Год назад
Could be
@morganwright8625
@morganwright8625 2 года назад
Been waiting for this!
@amazingrace4u
@amazingrace4u 2 года назад
Nick's team, you should've asked a follow question after he said he had such a blast at the beginning etc. How much of that was just the Bachelorette experience and how much did he think maybe he just fully wasn't getting to know a full person. Probably a combo but would've been an interesting question.
@monicabrown1940
@monicabrown1940 Год назад
Won't waste my money on d book Nate is right he was there with the I am the winner attitude and I knew it wouldn't work
@AbigaillOwusu
@AbigaillOwusu 2 года назад
Nayte a big part of love is the choice. You need to choose to love Michelle even through the ups and downs..
@ikexbankai
@ikexbankai 2 года назад
Yup yup yup!!! You have to chose to love someone
@shereewilliams3247
@shereewilliams3247 2 года назад
He has the right not to stay in a relationship this is not healthy for him. We don’t know what he was going through. Fighting and arguing constantly is not healthy in any relationship. Too many people do stay in relationships they should not be in (I know I did) and look at the world today.
@sharleenmagetto5051
@sharleenmagetto5051 2 года назад
He doesn't understand what love is even his step father told Michelle so
@bernicefletcher5096
@bernicefletcher5096 2 года назад
Very interesting conversation Nayte & Nick. As a OG fellow Canadian I knew Nayte was in Love & was hurting. A few days ago I made a comment on his last post & less than a minute he blocked me. I said something like How sad it was to see him now. Nayte’s hectic summer activities he posted, I observed something was bothering him. As I reflected on Michelle & Nayte beginning and ending of their engagement, it is with fondness & sadness it didn’t work out. I never saw Nayte chew gum in any picture & that last CMA interview, I new Nayte was checked-out & did enjoy it. Nayte, I wish you nothing but Peace of mind & much success in your future endeavours. You represented our country well. As you sing “ O Canada “ you’re Loved. 🇨🇦👍🏿🙏
@cmagee28029
@cmagee28029 2 года назад
Not Canadian, but saw him too. My heart goes out to both. Nayte will be a good hubby some day. Lots both can learn from.
@thestrwbrrygirl
@thestrwbrrygirl Год назад
I wish Nick would discuss compatibility in terms of birth signs. Michelle and Nayte are not compatible if you go by birth signs…and it is interesting how Nayte was sort of perplexed by how they just were not compatible once real life and real personalities were in play. Makes so much sense to me as someone who has researched the subject deeply.
@MandisaMwandla
@MandisaMwandla Год назад
This is rubbish 😅😂
@haleybrennick648
@haleybrennick648 2 года назад
I saw someone on Tik Tok say that Chris Pine was looking for his sunglasses. He then realizes they are on his leg and he is laughing that he didn’t realize that they were on his leg. It does look like that if you rewatch. To me, it makes more sense than Harry spitting.
@ikexbankai
@ikexbankai 2 года назад
What the fuck does that have to do with Nayte and this podcast
@butterflygirl141
@butterflygirl141 2 года назад
@@ikexbankai they talk about this…at the beginning of the podcast.
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