it doesn’t matter if viewers agree or disagree with your actions on the lake that day. They can’t take away your transparency and the fact you didn’t edit anything. I understand both perspectives. Keep doing you guys! I kinda wish you dealt with it differently but you didn’t lose me as a viewer because of it. We should be able to disagree on things and have a constructive conversation about it! People are soft these days 🤦🏻♂️
Even though I occasionally disagree with your guys takes or Dunkin’s, I do appreciate you have the courage to actually state them. Most of these podcasts are so sponsor/relationship fearing they just won’t say anything.
2 favorite bass podcasts combined!! Definitely do this again, maybe a series! Chris, I fish Lake Murray a lot. Ever since the Elite Event in 2023 the lake has gotten wild AF! I’ve shared a single point with 3 other boats. I’ve lost fish because of another boats proximity and the bent rod pattern is the biggest pattern on the lake. That guy was a POS and you had every right to be there. Next time pull up beside him and go to work!
Customer Service! One of the best companies I ever dealt with in the fishing industry was Eagle. I had met Tom Mann years ago. I had a unit go bad. They sent me a new unit up front . They also enclosed packaging to return the defective unit postage paid. Total trust in the customer!
Me personally I would have been excited just to be fishing around Chris. It’s not like he was going to sit there the whole tourney and catch every fish on the point or trash the spot. It’s part of fishing sharing water. I don’t know how many times I’d heard don’t be afraid to fish behind someone.
Unfortunately in N TX all the lakes have tournaments on any given Sat or Sun. No way can I keep up with all the tournaments. I do try to talk to other boater and if they are fishing a tournament I'll yield the spot but drop a waypoint for sure. Friendly fishing I'll try to fish behind and never cut someone off or jump in front. Good Ole courtesy can go a long way
Chris don't apologize for shit. He knew you had been fishing that spot, he had live going on his phone. He started cussing you, nobody has to sit there and be cussed. Anybody who says he should apologize and he is wrong, YOU are the problem. I've been tournament fishing for over 25 years, everything from local derby to Nations to bfls and even everstarts back in the day. The one thing I have never done is go to a lake where a big tournament is going on. If I was there practicing or looking around and even a club tournament was going on and I seen someone fishing ,I didn't go there. Maybe more people should get off the bent rod pattern and find your own shit. If one of the major organizations is fishing there, go to another lake that day but don't get in there way. That's how they make there living. I wouldn't let anyone cuss me like that and nobody else would either.He allowed his other buddy on the other side of the spot so all they was basically doing was trying to keep the pros off of it. There is to may people willing to jump on celebrities or pros telling them what they do is wrong but nit calling out the other ones. That's bullshit...local was in the wrong this time..sorry
The other thing that gets missed by pros, (especially Watson), is this idea that feeder trails adding something somehow takes away from the pros. BPT and Elites pay out way more than 100%, and the feeder orgs are 80% payback at best. The lower leagues truly do fund the top level
Lol the drama couple back at it. I would have acted the same or more as that guy. I would have ended up telling chris to come to shore real quick. It doesn't matter at all it was his spot because he was already there. You felt entitled to come up and take it
Two of my favorites. Chris, you’ve apologized so you’re good in my mind. Random anglers should give the pros the right of way, I try not to fish when a big tournament is going on and like Luke said I’d just go to another lake if I know there is a tournament.
Nope wrong if a so called pro rolls up on my only day off and expects me to move he is outta his goddamn mind .😂 Sure if I don't mind and he was nice and maybe asked in a nice way maybe I would let them do there thing but when some1 comes in hot I'm good I'll sit there all damn day and then follow his dumb goofy ass and see how he really likes me then
The problem with "pro" fishing is that you play on the same field that us mortals play on. It's not like golf or baseball or football where you have to be extraordinary to play on that field. I mean I might have been decent as a pitcher when I was 12 but I'll never play at Wrigley. You guys are the best at what you do no doubt but you will always have the hotshot for that lake +15 more that think they are the pro for that lake and think they are better than you yet they couldn't compete with a full years schedule. Keep doing what your doing Chris and the Lord shall smile on you
Ya all hate MLF - it’s been very clear that is personal to you all. So when you all talk about MLF it’s clearly with bias. You can hear the excitement in your voice about anglers leaving MLF and coming back to BASS. You can’t even hide your hate. You all are also weirdly sensitive… You are bringing attention to the sport by having this pod. With that is going to come scrutiny - both positive and negative.
I'm having a hard time believing you're still trying to justify your actions with these backhanded apologies. Only YOU were in the wrong, own it like a man
So I have millions of dollars....If I gave Chris 2M per year, all his equipment, paid entry fees and travel cost...would he come work for me???? Think of this offer like NASCAR...he's my driver. His face is MY brand....how come the sport isn't going this direction Trait???
Also, i always come off a plane pulling i to coves and try not to disturb people as much as possible. One day on Ky Lake, i was heading into a pocket, and some guys were smack dab in the middle, but the mouth was about 200yrds across, and i still came off the plane. I was prob 50yds away and waived when i passed, and the guy throws up his hand like im a dick and ran over where he was fishing. I basically told him i came off the plane and how the fk am i supposed to know which side you're fishing and you're right in the middle of the fkn lake. Some people just think they own the place and everyone should get out of their way.
The total lack of respect people have to others is crazy. I would never do what either of these locals did. I might mark the spot for future use, but in no way would I ever block an angler who has so much on the line.
I enjoy the podcast and luke very much . The guest are terrific. Chris needs to take his medicine. Shows no remorse and is very arrogant. He should be suspended for a year from pro fishing. How would paul Elias or hank Parker handled that? Probably very different. His actions are a poor example to the anglers who inspire to be pro fishermen .
Man.. You had close to a thousand comments telling you what you did wrong. You ignored all of them and only listened to the yes men. You are not who we thought you were at all. I never thought you were that entitled pro that we all hate but the true colors have been shown.
Can we just already call a spade a spade and put all the dirt on Jacob Wheeler out there, this man is out there making bank and he is a great angler, but he cheated his way to the Fn top and all these kids and younger people idolize the man. Please will you guys just put the proof out there. I have already told the story about the guy I know that showed him all the waypoints when he won on Pickwick a few years back
It's not just Wheeler, it's rampant amongst the pros. There's no way a pro with only 3 days of practice finds the one spot on a 70,000 acre lake and smashes them. MLF came to my neck of the woods 3 years ago and I'm well known at the prime local tackle shop since I'm on the water every week. Sure enough I get contacted by a well known pro who would like to take me out to go fishing with him ... "hey I've heard from so and so that you're one of the big sticks around here and was wondering if you might be interested in going fishing with me while I'm here" ... yeah right. Even though I don't follow pro fishing I had a feeling it was well inside the "no info" period. What a surprise, I wasn't available to go ...
@@astrophysicistguy who was it? That's what I'm talking about, until these guys get ousted they're going to continue. The BPT just fines the guy 5k for an info violation and it's never disclosed
@@Mjones8383 the problem with me giving his name is that nothing illegal actually happened. I don't think the "off limits" period was in effect so he was allowed to be on the lake and since I didn't go with him nothing actually happened. Suspicious? Sure. But did an actual rules violation occur? I don't know. He just offered to take me fishing. Is that technically against the rules? My stance about tournament fishing is well known so I don't want to get caught up in any online controversy .
Pro leagues should have practice on the weekends and start the tournaments on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Then you eliminate a ton of lake traffic from locals
My opinion he doesn't need to apologize to a jackass. The guy knew exactly what he did. That's what is wrong with society. Someone can do something wrong and get their feelings hurt when they get called out on it. Chris admitted he was wrong for not communicating with the jerk and his language. Goid enough for me.
People will get over it. Its life shit happens. Sometimes things get heated. That guy on his day off was probably a good guy. And im sure chris is probably a good guy. There will other drama next week and it will be forgotten
So I have no way of knowing if this guy knew the elites were there or not. I will say that the majority of my fishing friends do not follow any pro fishing events or circuits. There is always the possibility that he/or some other anglers may not be aware of events on the lakes. Some of the lakes have multiple events every week, so people in the area may not think anything of it. Its their day off and they are going fishing. Lets not just assume that every angler knows or follows the Elite Series, they dont. That said, when events are going on I try to stay off that body of water. If thats not possible and I dont have another option, Ill go out later so that they can get to where they want to go and then I fish areas none of them are around.
So I watch the video clip on what happened to Chris on lake Murray. I have had the chance to meet Chris twice once at the classic on lake Hartwell, and I meet him on lake Murray. The one thing that impressed me the most that day on lake Murray. Chris and his wife was setting up there camper and I stop to see Chris. Chris and his wife stopped what they were doing and took time out for me to get a picture and Chris signed my hat. I really appreciate Chris and his wife’s honesty, and being real. That’s a rare quality. I will say Chris is the real deal. Keep on keeping on.
Un followed. Un subscribed. You think you are better than a normal angler out enjoying his day off. But since you're fishing a tournament, you have more right to a spot than him. Go get a real job!
My mom before she passed told me this, she said that in today's society if you share truth about someone's idol they will do 1 of 2 things, they'll attack you for exposing them or they'll praise you and find another idol, the latter is very rare so you best carry protection
Why Zaldain has the best fishing pod is because he always has different guests from the industry or social media etc. Not the same repeat elite anglers etc. My favorite one so far has beeen the lie detector dude.
As far as the disagreement on the water......you are a pro at the top level....you are held to a higher standard....weather or not you like it. Please be respectful to locals.
@@NoFro-TL why are you even on here. You are obviously someone that is just some wants attention. Guarantee you have never fished anything than in your bathtub. Have you been to any of these or to the Classic. Even met these guys who put it on the line to chase their dreams. Even fished a local tournament or Open. We can tell your not a Elite except for running your mouth. So put your money where your spine is meet me on the water and show me your as good as your brain tells you are. I’m all in. Good Lord Buddy!
@@billfrisk111 Absolutely do. It’s funny to see the comments made this TK Lewis who has no clue. To the amount invested by all involved to even to be able to do this.
Well there goes having to explain to my daughter that Santa is made up!! I never let my kids listen to LowLife but I always let them listen to the Zaldain's as the language and theme are normally kid friendly. Well made the mistake today and ended up having to explain the truth about Santa!! U would say you definitely went Full Send with the Santa comment and further rhetoric instead of just leaving it alone!
People that want to show up and fish during pro derby’s are toxic. I could care less if he has one day a year to fish. He wanted smoke and he got it. No one caught shit and that’s what comes of that type of encounter
I've been thinking about this and I realized that so many times while I was fun fishing during a tournament, I just let the tournament angler fish my spot. I ask them if I can watch them and to show me what they used. You always learn something.
This was a great pod. Takes a lot to keep me locked in for over an hour, and the conversation with Luke did that. I have been back and forth with whether or not Luke's style connects with me, but he was awesome as a guest and liked his approach and style. Great pod. Thank you
Good show! We appreciate honestly. You moved in and fired on the guy , learn from it and move on. Thats all you can do. Whether you like it or not , it is irrelevant if it’s a bass guy or local joe on a lake with a big tourney or not. All fisherman are there to fish.
Huge fan of all of all three of you, thanks for everything yall do. As a weekend, club fisherman, I concede to anyone, willingly, who are fishing for a livelihood. I have no problem with it, never have. I have always been treated with respect from all pros. I fished a club tourney on Logan Martin and dealt with several of the NPFL guys, all super nice. Have some of the interactions on camera on my channel. I’m fishing for “fun” and very little money, plenty of water for us all to fish somewhere. Keep it up guys 💪
please don't stop naming people when you bring up the shady business going on! Just remember that 99% of us don't hear or see the stuff going on because of how tight lipped the industry has been historically. I've said it on X that Trait needs to embrace the roll as the Tour Level Bass Fishing Insider like Schefter and Rappoport are for the NFL. Pods like this, Luke's, Ike's and BTL are literally the only way that the majority of us hear about it.
He did say sorry for what he did that was actually wrong i guarantee like they said i bet the guy knew actually where chris was fishing if he was a bass fishing fan so like chris said he could have handled some things a little different but i think he was totally ok.for what he done minus hownhenwas talking tontge guy....
Spot on... We had the Bassmaster Elite series show up in Escanaba, Michigan I found out the day before they came because there were people setting up in the park....0 local advertising. Really fishing heavy community almost no one knew until they showed up. No surprise there was maybe 50-100 people there. With better advertising for the event locally people would have showed up like crazy.
I've always wondered about that, asked a couple people on other platforms recently with no response. would make sense to do some kind of advertising in the neighboring towns and for sure at the boat ramps on the lake. A lot of people just assume that everyone with a boat follows the tournament trails, maybe in very small specific areas but I still don't think even on places like Guntersville that everyone follows the tours. Its kinda like golf...millions of people have clubs and golf occasionally but not a lot of them follow the Tour and know where its going from week to week.
Dang. Some anglers are like WNBA players. Cut your own nose off. You all should be encouraging new organizations to increase competitive $$$$$. When anglers leave BPT or MLF maybe they will treat anglers better.
I have long felt that any BASS affiliated club or trail, should not interfere with a tournament on a larger level like the Elites or a club tournament interfering with a state nation trail. The reason is two fold, BASS affiliated clubs or state trails (to my knowledge get their insurance through BASS) and as the organizations should be working toward getting people to the higher levels. Will that fix everything, it won't, but it might help to limit some of the problems. I have always steered clear if the pros are out there because the state trail or a club derby don't pay my bills. Further getting a chance to observe the pros fishing is a massive free lesson.
I appreciate the will and determination to win between you and Wheeler 😂😂😂 keep up the competitive nature.. just some advice to help ya… don’t respond to people yelling at you.. it’s a losing argument man. Love ya and the fam! Many blessings
Dude that stole that spot or Sniped it basically that's fucked man sorry i work 6 days a week and schedule my outings but still if i launch and see what's going on why not support,i would of packed a big lunch and just watched some people i swear 😂 everything is posted for tournaments dude is a Hater Snipped your spot dvk.
Chris, you have every right to be pissed off, these guys ride around and watch the tournament on the water and mark waypoints ! They are bums and can't compete on any level. Use to back in the day they followed you to your hole. Don't worry about this ! You were right !
It crazy how people bitch about pro who literally fish 1 wk on a lake bring money to the community fans get to meet their idols,,1wk really you cany fish some where else ..fisherman know almost a yr ahead of time when there's going to be a pro tournament..why cause conflicts we're its not needed 😂😊
Let people use your work puts more eyes on you and a percentage of those people will make it to your podcast. So either way you win, it costs you nothing to have someone else advertise for you👍👍💪💪
The glory days for big payouts are a thing of the past. Professional bass fishing does not even get a small line on page in a newspaper. The Bass Masters Classic is not even mentioned on the news or in the paper. Most people could care less.
@@Zaldaingerous blows my mind too! or at least figure out a way to get some kind of final day 30 second recap on SportsCenter. even that could make a world of difference. Heck even getting a Fishing tab on ESPN's website
Ted and get that but you give what you get. Like I said everyone could have handled it better. If someone starts jawing at you, you’r gonna respond with the same. Not that it’s the best way to handle it but emotions get involved. Oh well live and learn.
Great podcast guys. Luke is a great guy, and very honest. A good north Alabama southern guy. Just like the straight shooter just like Ray Scott. I sure do miss is honestly and enthusiasm.
I didn’t like the way u handled the situation on Murray but it was 1 situation… disagree and more on. Ppl act like u were casting 2 oz the tungsten weights at the dude. Ppl are so soft these days.
Funny how honest/straight forward people are usually labeled as “azzholes”. In reality those people are snowflakes. I do wish rolling up you would have said something to that dude and politely told him your plan. Could have de escalated the situation. You admitted that much so much respect.
I think you have to remember people will take any opportunity they can get to attack anyone that is successful or doing better then they are, some of the hate your getting Chris is exaggerated, we all might have one of these encounters in the water and we should try to learn from both the local guy and the pro
Chris, in Ireland after the peace we obtained a new institution in the north, that is termed a centre for peace and reconcilliation. Other conflict zones used to visit the Irish in order to understand how they made it through their darkest periods. The Bilge is a bit like that on wheels for competitive angling.
Someone sent Trait a clip of one of those guys saying I didn’t go to MLF because I couldn’t afford it. Bass entries were $50k at the time and BPT had free entry fees 😅
Great show. I really think that whole situation sucked but you're a different breed of jackazz if you get that mad at an elite angler fishing your lake and spots. Id geek out at the chance to watch them a bit. But if there is a local club tournament going on that im not fishing and a guy is rolling through where i am ill back off and let them fish it. I get out and practice as much as possible but i dont want to get in the way of someone in a tournament but dont be a jerk.
And I work 5 days a week to fish. I will NEVER give up a spot to a tournament angler. But I do avoid lakes that have tournaments going on. Nothing worst that showing up to a lake to see a jammed launch ramp with a tournament going on.
You don’t owe anyone an apology. Pull up on a spot, sack em up, don’t engage with another angler that isn’t even fishing the tournament. You’re fishing to win a normal dual income families yearly salary. FUCK THE BULLSHIT.
Everybody including you guys are always calling out derbies for not paying enough which is true, but I can't understand why you guys took such a negative outlook with regards to the $500k derby on Guntersville. It's underwritten by Alabama tax payers
When nobody puts a name behind it, rules are vague, qualification requirements and membership fees aren’t mentioned, I wouldn’t get excited about it either. Not to mention I’m not sure the government supposedly putting up a million bucks for a B.A.S.S. tournament on a place that is already overcrowded with tournaments would be appropriate
I think both was in the wrong, Chris i love you to death and watch all your videos but you should have asked if it was ok if you fished that area. Everyone as a fisherman need to respect one another if your a pro or not. But also he shouldn't have been a *&#$ and let u have that spot. We all are excited and get in the moment and stuff happens, its part of it. I think big on you for admitting u should have handled it differently.
Trait I watched this video today. I want to tell you. You should never be ashamed or hold your tongue if what your saying is factual. the league needs to own up if there are mistakes made, just like Chris did after he rolled up on that spot. IMO you both are class acts. 👍
Something seems exceedingly "fishy" in the tournament fishing industry these days. I can see with my own eyes that BASS and MLF go to great lengths to not only sweep under things that should be laid bare, but they seem to go extra to Celebrate these same individuals. Its all taking away from the product. FFS is the least of the worries in professional fishing. I follow Team Zaldain, because it feels transparent to me. Great podcast with a great guest.
We are all human and we all have moments we lose our cool, doesn’t matter who is right or wrong , wrong day wrong reaction happens to all of us. None of us have range finders and there’s no parking places on the water. One persons 100 feet or yards is very different than another’s. Real life sh@t went down. Like Luke said, as a fisherman it doesn’t matter if it’s a pro league or a jon boat club if there’s a tournament going on and I know about it, I find another lake to go to. If you do decide to go, you have to go into it knowing it’s going to be crowded and you are going to be close to others throughout the day.
Is there not a place in Denton to have the Classic. Much closer to to the lake and less stressful to the fish being hauled farther. I’d attend if they’d do it closer to the lake.
I fish alot at Clearlake. I always give way to tournament Anglers when they ask and are courteous. Tournaments there in April and May you cant make full cast without hittiing a boat. Sometimes the biggest lakes fish small Especially for money .
Consider the fishermen like me who spend full price on all the same gear you have. Can only fish Saturday,Sunday. Then weather keeps me off the water some of those days. It seems like ever time I get to the launch some type of tournament is going on. You mentioned things going on in the fishing industry that may have affected you. Maybe that kid has stressed in his life right now.
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