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Going Off-Grid - Part 3 

Chris L
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This third installment of my Going Off-Grid series reveals how my upgraded solar system coped with gray, rainy weather and other challenges.
There are four sections:
1) Installation of the eight new panels,
2) Value of a battery to the system,
3) Coping with severe weather days, and
4) The electric pottery kiln challenge.

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9 май 2023

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@guitphreak
@guitphreak Год назад
That bowl is spectacular
@norapatterson2850
@norapatterson2850 Год назад
Very nice!
@greggtracton2588
@greggtracton2588 6 месяцев назад
Really impressive video. I felt you presented the info at a pace where I could really absorb it. Well done! I do wonder, for the general case, if it's good or bad for every other house to build a system that's much bigger than needed for it's own use so that the other half of the population on the grid are NOT using burned fuels. This would imply a larger battery, the excess capacity of which (ex, over what your house needs) is really only used by your neighbors via the grid. This would mean that the payment system would need to reimburse the panel owner better for their investment and the grid owners need to take less. I've also seen people floating the idea of a large battery per neighborhood (ex, every 10 houses) because larger batteries are more efficient and would be professionally maintained, monitored, and updated. A mini-grid that is resupplied from the central grid where there's multiple dark days in a row.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 6 месяцев назад
Hey! My system does not export any power to the grid (the local utility will not allow large systems to participate in net metering - they don't want to buy consumer excess power here in SoCal where residential solar is so common). But micro-grids are great for small isolated communities. The San Diego for-profit power provider is investing in new gas-fired power plants rather than in utility scale battery systems.☹
@cooltrkin
@cooltrkin Год назад
It seams you need a generator back up. Now if you are completely off grid you'll have to produce alcohol to run your generator.
@Dagreenberg68
@Dagreenberg68 Год назад
Being green means to encompass a whole lot of things the heat coming from your Kim could’ve went back into heating or keeping water at a steady temperature or higher…. Meaning, if you were to use thermal solar panels to heat your water before you heated it with electricity, you wouldn’t have to heat the water as much and if you use the kiln to heat water in store that heated water in a heat exchanger. Going green ask actually a combination of a lot of things that we haven’t even fully understood how they relate to each other. It’s the laws of physics heat water with the sun. I know it’s not always sunny, but if you put it into the ground and let it stay there at a certain temperature do you know that the temperature is always going to be there. More battery than you really need.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 Год назад
I have an engineering degree with several courses in thermodynamics and a boatload of physics. I'm using some of the energy from the sun that hits my roof. It ALL turns to heat, whether used for a useful purpose or not first. I'm not using any grid power, which where I live is 2/3 from fossil fuel, so I'm not burning anything. I'm also not eating any cows, responsible for a large part of climate change and loss of biodiversity, and neither do I fly on airlines, another big producer of greenhouse gases. I'm filling my yard with new trees.
@johnwambaa9442
@johnwambaa9442 Год назад
I wonder if installing mini splits would be more efficient, instead of the traditional central heat/central air, since you can turn off the mini split(s) you would need at night and not have to cool or heat the entire house.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 Год назад
I have spent a lot of effort insulating my 1500 sq.ft. house so partitioning it not useful, and especially during summer, I have a large surplus in energy generation capacity. So not so much concerned with efficiency or saving energy. Almost unlimited free energy with no climate repercussions. Typical summer weather here is warm (sometimes hot) days and cool nights. Thanks for the comment!
@fintrollpgr
@fintrollpgr Год назад
Very interesting sharing of your experience. But one thing you seem to have missed completely is checking where all that energy is going. I could do 2 full days in -25C/-13F on the energy in your battery in the Finnish winter, a far cry from a CA winter day. My current summer base load is ~100-150W, in winter during a cold winter day it might go up to 800W (due to the heat pump/electrical heating). From your graphs in February you seem to be at about 1400W a third more with a lot less need for heating.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 Год назад
Is your house all-electric? Do you use hot water? M water heater pulls 4.5 kW when it's on, which is more than an hour a day. My electric clothes dryer pulls more power than that, for an hour per load. Electric oven and cooktop. My car sucks up 30 kWh after a shopping trip. It is what it is.
@fintrollpgr
@fintrollpgr Год назад
@@Chris21709 It mostly is, I can burn some wood in winter for extra heat though. And I have an electric car too. But you don't seem to know what base load is. Your dryer, electric car etc are not part of you base load. Even worse I could barely tell the difference on your graphs when you turned the water heat off. It was only visible when you turned it back on as it had to heat the water. Your base load is what your house consumes when you are not doing things like drying clothes, running your kiln or charging your car. It is what your always on appliances use like fridge, internet router etc.. Or hidden standby power usage of appliances you turned "off" but still keep consuming power (TV's, stereo's etc...are common culprits)
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 Год назад
@@fintrollpgr About 300 watts during the middle of the night when the heat pump is turned off, although it is set to recirculate the air, so the air handler (blower) comes on and off, so it varies. The refrigerator comes on and off (not continuous). My large commercial water heater comes on and off (heat loss), even when I'm not using hot water. The batteries also consume a little power just to maintain charge. Charging/discharging batteries is pretty inefficient. But I don't care. The system now provides all my energy needs, sun or overcast, and I don't burn anything.
@tonynguyen3006
@tonynguyen3006 9 месяцев назад
Would u plan on finding way to add more battery/solar? Also since u trying to go off grid would u plan on getung air water generator?
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 9 месяцев назад
Nothing more is needed at this point.
@tonynguyen3006
@tonynguyen3006 9 месяцев назад
Hi Chris thank you for the reply.. I'm now ur fan.. your very detail. And I believe your the first to to point out what happen during bad rain weather. Keep up the video. I am planing to get solar because of you. I also live in California is it true there a law limit of 40kw battery limit?
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 11 месяцев назад
This is why I do not like proprietary systems. You are at the manufacturers mercy. Where as if you bought server rack batteries and off the shell inverters etc you pay a LOT less and you can afford to have twin inverters/controllers. If Enphase discontinues this line and something goes sideways, good luck getting the software out of them that matches those batteries.
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