Hey so I see a bit of confusion on the Tobirama point, when I mention in the vid we'll clarify FTG during the Tobirama section in the Minato section I was implying that the same win cons that apply to Minato apply to Tobirama as well since he can replicate FTG level two by placing a Manual mark on his Kunai or use another variation, it just didn't make as much sense to repeat the same thing twice. Apologies if that wasn't clear or if I worded it a bit poorly on my end.
Minato has literal feats of him moving faster than his FTG teleportation which is so insane, another example is when he BodyFlickers back in the war before the Bijuu Bomb he teleports lands
Maybe im just lame, but i think that's just a matter of parallax or the displacement of the teleporting object (himself) being set to somewhere that's not EXACTLY where the kunai is - which has to be the case for FTG anyway since he's never physically attached to the kunai as soon as he teleports. Basically I'm saying, the kunai (or seal on the kunai) isn't the exact place you teleport to But it's cool
I’m just confused because it was never mentioned how Minato would mark Gojo with the ftg seal. Even if I believe that the argument is sound, Minato could teleport through limitless, I still don’t see how he would without actually leaving a seal on Gojo.
@@African-AmericanGoose Revealing your technique and it's workings to enemy in JJK actually powers it up, that is why a single, most simple reversal red blasted Jogo to middle of the forest effortlessly after Gojo told him about it.
The glaze wasn't even that crazy they spent the first 5 mins debunking all of higher AP and Speed calcs, making him below the Hokage stat-wise and then just proceeded to explain his abilities.
It’s not so much that he’s objectively below since you could also argue the Hokage around, more so that it shouldn’t be a night and day difference at least in my opinion. I think the speed is the bigger issue more than AP if anything, since it’s much easier to argue Lightspeed Naruto over JJK
Anyone who debunks JJK light speed scaling gets an instant like from me. Characters don't have to break the laws of physics with their speed to be good.
@@omegapirate64 It was power creep but it was expected akatsuki are all stated to be S rank ninja which is the equivalent of a kage or lower Madara and Hashirama just like Sukuna were God's in the Golden age of ninja fighting the warring states were instead of children going into dangerous missions they would constantly be fighting wars and Madara and hashirama dominated that era and one of this already powerful character wants a greater power also the bijuu were established to be powerful a long while ago so adding them to your arsenal your broken
@@orpheemulemo8053 ya that’s exactly my problem with Naruto. S class ninja doesn’t mean shit, they all ABSURDLY vary in strength. And another thing is that even if things were established, it doesn’t take away the fact that the execution of said establishment was absurd. By the way, “established “ didn’t really mean much when they were like “oh yeah they are so stupidly strong bro trust me” but how strong is “stupidly strong” ? I like Naruto but damn it did NOT feel like a ninja series by the end.
@@omegapirate64 It's a ninja series yes inspired by Japanese folklore that's why the ninjas have elemental powers people say ohh it's a ninja series yet characters have God like characters have you ever read Japanese and Buddhist mythology basically filled with transcendant beings most of the names of characters abilities are named after gods in Japanese lore Like izanagi and izanami the first time itachi introduced the latter people say plot whole or no to foreshadowed but in Japanese lore izanami and izanagi are twin God's so the very fact kishimoto but izanagi in the manga means izanami will appear soon The akatsuki are very strong let's not say that S rank ninja means nothing because that's not thecase in the War ninjas like the five kage Ms war Kakashi who at the time reached S rank level was very useful Even the Tsusanoo itself is a mythological reference and for example itachi and shisui two double MS wielders were shown to have incomplete Tsusanoo. Why do we know it's in complete because it's design is inspired by an armored tengu who are flying human bird warriors clad in armor and we can see itachi and shisui the higher the level the more armor they got and the bigger it got so when Madara showed off his perfect Tsusanoo for naruto fans who know Japanese mythology it was expected
This video made me realize that Tayuya counters Limitless 😂. Gojo can freely be heard and hear, meaning it either has no effect on sound or the functions of limitless are wrong. If things get slowed to relative zero around gojo, sound waves would never reach him.
Hiruzen required it because he was older and slower than Oro, he also couldn't see in the Infinite Bringer of darkness. When Minato used it, the reaper simply stretched his arm through Minato and over to the Ninetails. When orochimaru summoned it, others could see the Shinigami and the Souls even though they weren't in contact.
Funnily enough, Shikamaru has a very simple way to win the fight. Shadow-neck binding technique (RIP forgotten jutsu). Not only could he strangle Gojo, but we know the shadow has physical properties. So if you qanna argue that the shadow wouldn't be able to strangle Gojo for whatever reason, then you could alternatively use it to blind Gojo.
@@theinktician yup. There were so many ideas in the OG Naruto to make characters grow stronger and then they forgot all about those abilities in Shippuden. Sure, they got some new ones but they seemed weaker. I mean, look at Temari. In Shippuden she just uses her fan like she did in the chuunin exams. When she came to save Shikamaru she used a summon that leveled a forest like it was nothing. Then, it was never seen again. So much wasted potential.
That Shadow wouldn't be able to reach Gojo, there's an infinite distance between the shadow and him. There's never once been any implication that the Nara's Shadow technique can block the vision of the Sharingan or Byakugan, therefore it shouldn't work against the Six Eyes either.
@@numberhunter62 have you like, watched the video? I'm simply going off of the statement in the video, where shadows were considered to be a viable option due to the nature of their usage and implications within JJK (which was brought up in the video) and the nature of shadows in general. Obviously we've never seen that because this jutsu, which has physical properties, was used only once and it was not against a dojutsu user. Later on, Shikamaru was used just for binding people with his shadows like he used to when he was just a genin. In other words, you cannot say something is unlikely to be true because there is no supporting evidence, while your own claim has none. If both things have no evidence then they're as likely as they're unlikely. However, in this case, we have more implications on the side of the argument that supports the notion of it being possible due to the fact that the shadow has physical properties and was being used to incapacitate someone. Thus, it is safe to assume that if it could apply pressure to the larynx, then applying said pressure to the softer tissue of an eyeball would easily crush it. The idea of simply obscuring one's vision is based on the assumption that it could not apply enough pressure, which we have no basis for nor counterarguments. Lastly, you're forgetting that this is all speculation.
Tsunade downplay yet again... No one truly understands how strong she really is. Tsunade is genjutsu resistant much like Sakura thanks to the byakugou seal. She healed tsukuyomi side effects with basic med ninjutsu. Katsuyu is also telepathically and directly linked to the seal no matter the distance which means she can always disperse any genjutsu or mental illusions and Tsunade being a medical and combat genius will figure it out on her own. He ain't surviving a hit from her. People keep saying she's slow yet she has consistently shown to keep up with speedsters and has punched everyone she has fought.
@@braxtongressett1457That's the biggest issue but even then, the arguments discussing the matchup making her out to be some neanderthal, punching at the Limitless shield as if it'll break instead of actually fighting tactically, even just punching the ground and using terrain manipulation and her superior stamina and healing factor to either outlast Gojo or find a way through is a complete disservice to her character.
@@Mrrynshe doesn’t have superior stamina. Once she releases the seal theres a limit. Gojo dont got that problem and buddy shes literally just a puncher. She has nothing to get past susanoo/ limitless. Its not math its science
I'd mention that tobirama should have minatos ftg win con too. We see him in canon teleport someone's attack back to them (jubito) so he can do the same with hollow purple. He also used the flying raijin slice so similar to ur argument for minato that should work. I think the assumption people use that he doesn't use ftg often to dodge or counterattack during fights luke minato is just incorrect. We literally see him do that all throughout the war arc. Plus his first notable win was via ftg on izuna. Tldr, ftg is just as much a win con for tobirama as it is for minato
ikr, people pretend like tobirama cant do what minato does when hes literally shown to do so lol. minato just has the custom kunai and the barrier jutsu that he used ftg as inspiration for, thats it, hes not faster with it or anything. Tobirama just uses more sneak attacks through more vast jutsu compared to minato only specialising in 3, ftg, sealing and rasengan
Agreed it’s more of a fighting style point as Tobirama doesn’t main FTG as his primary method of combat compared to Minato but, it’s literally the same thing since he can replicate FTG level 2 with a bit more work. I believe I mention Tobirama can do it as well in the vid. Edit: I mention this in the vid but, made a pinned comment clarifiying.
@loveladii69 its his jutsu hes obviously a master at what he created. Minato mastered it because he learnt everything there is about it. Its not glazing its a fact simple as
@@manny9191 his jutsu of course he mastered it The only person who mastered all of his Justus is orichimaru Tobirama created reanimated and he didn’t have a mastered version so of course you did not watch Naruto and is just glazing tobirama because he the hokage brother he literally got dog on by 2 people with 9 tails chakra that got dog on by dauri a non Kage bro is trash
The same win cons for Minato apply to Tobirama too who can also use FTG to send attacks away (he was going to do this with a juubidama with Minato while it’s implied Hashirama could move multiple ones). Flying Raijin Slice would be effective then too
@@ThunderGodTG No worries haha I read the pinned comment. Plus y’all did say in the video you’d go in depth on FTG in Minato’s section. Makes sense and I agree!
One point I’d like to bring up is that the reason that Gojo probably wasn’t able to evade the world slash was because that even though his six eyes can read a cursed technique as well as see cursed energy, on a high level of jujutsu sorcerers, their cursed energy flow is a lot more stable, so stable as to make it so a person cannot read it-even Gojo. So it’s not because of the speed of the attack that he was caught off guard.
@uspahle neutral limitless after the hidden inventory arc is completely automatic, detecting all that comes in contact with it, INCLUDING POISON. At the time that the statement was initially made, Gojo was just getting used to it going 100% automatic and wasn't, AT THE TIME, able to fully detect poison, but that was a freshly awakened gojo. This Gojo is older and able to detect it
Kakashi vs Gojo speedrun War Arc Kakashi 1 MS: Kakashi stomps, outscales Gojo and Kamui is a perfect counter to limitless DMS Kakashi: cmon Hokage Kakashi: based on novel feats he vastly outscales Gojo but has no way of bypassing infinity, maybe he could do something with Genjutsu but there is not enough evidence to support that, so most likely Gojo wins after sometime with Unlimited Void
@@laurence_lookmyr Gojo can punch his a%s without lifting Limitless though. I dont think you consider that limitless isn't some kind of suit Gojo has no control over, Limitless is extension of his will and soul, he IS limitless in a sense. He can attack while also keeping Limitless up or shifting it.
I will say i was skeptical of sum of the stuff said about gojo (lack of teleportation, or the fact his six eyes would be able to decipher most abilities so it’d be hard to catch him off guard), but I see u taking notes in comment section and that’s dope asf. Mad respect bro💯 I also think while very few hokage have win cons, and most if not all when hit by UV would be done…the scaling difference is tough to overcome. High tiers in naruto are a different level.
Appreciate it ✊🏻yeah, I actually regret not bringing up teleportation more just kinda got a bit lost in the discussion. I also got no issues taking notes/critique since it just helps the content for the future as opposed to having a weird ego or feeling attacked.
Kamui makes sense to work against limitless but FTG…?? Eh not so much. The seal must be applied via touch and there is no touch to Gojo here. You can’t touch the barrier. The seal never makes contact imo. If the seal is already on Gojo…sure.
@ThunderGodTG then they would be stuck inside the limitless. Infinity is not a wall, it's literally making the Infinity a reality. They will never cross that distance. None of the kage have any jutsu that can bypass the infinity. P.S. if hey dodge the domain, they speed blitz gojo after breaking the domain.
Okay you didn’t catch what I said if he throws a Kunai and the Kunai is stuck in the Limitless Barrier Minato can alter his angle/move in the subspace beyond Space & Time and appear and Gojo. When FTG users teleport there is a radius they can appear in within the mark’s placement whether it be manual or Kunai. It’s debatable but, that was the argument being made.
That is true I actually mentioned that to someone else I do regret not discussing it as much. Gojo's teleportation ain't on the same level as Minato's tho, FTG allows it's user to literally teleport between entire dimensions due to being above any Space/Time restrictions via teleporting into it's own unique Subspace, Gojo has showcased no Teleportation feats on this level.
11:06 tbf maho was closer to the explosion when the unlimited hollow went off so he might of just died first meaning sukuna was free to use DA again. If u don’t wanna use the that point sukuna was also able to hit gojo on a few occasions while agito and maho where gaining up on him (chapter 234 he landed that kick for example) so he doesn’t need to deactivate the shikigami to use it.
i think what makes the naruto verse in general just so much better is the massive variety and abillities, and the tons of illusion and genjutsu that just hard counter any non heavy illusion resistant character. i think naruto verse v verse in general is kinda unfair bc theres a counter to everything within naruto
@@ajdavis3607no for hashirama they did say bringer or darkness then thousand hand Buddha when in reality the thousand hand buddha still wouldn’t touch him
Bringer of Darkness would hinder Gojo’s ability to see which doesn’t inherently just neutralize infinity but, due to infinity being predicated on his visuals it makes it extremely difficult to deal with, even this is irrelevant though since Forest Bloom does kinda rip. I feel as if we did a pretty good job defining infinity in the vid and some of semantics if you want to peep, or maybe you have another interpretation which I would be super open to.
@@ThunderGodTG yeah, overall u guys were already being generous to gojo so I’m jus being nit picky at this point 😂😂 even if hashirama had no win cons (which he does) I wouldn’t dare say gojo beats him in any way shape or form lol
@@theneverwhere6076 minato arriving before his kunai’s hit, minato himself, Naruto being scaled directly and higher to minato in the later forms, sasuke scales directly with naruto, etc etc. I can pull up exact feats if you want tbh, just ask
@@thedabisme61 "minato arriving before his kunai’s hit" Irrelevant as that's simply impossible due to how Minato's jutsu works, animation error and outlier. "Naruto being scaled directly and higher to minato in the later forms" Minato is nowhere near to light speed though. "sasuke scales directly with naruto, etc etc" Naruto was distracted by large fireball, unless ur really going to tell me how a ball of fire was FTL there.
@@theneverwhere6076 wdym you mean animation error and outlier, he arrived before all other hokages and considered a physical feat as he can’t just throw a kunai from leaf to the final battlefield. Hell vsbattles scale him to sub-relativistic since he reacted to, teleported, and came back. Minato is MFTL+ at least. Did you read Naruto off of tiktok my dude, there are many other examples where they are comparable in speed during and after the war
If the kauni hit limitless wouldnt it bounce off and minato just teleport to the kauni so the how would minato hurt gojo without waiting for gojo to turn off limitless. But gojo hax just allows him fight high tier characters which makes the fights interesting.
limitless isn’t considered a barrier, it’s a technique gojo perfected to use at all times that works automatically. Gojo also uses RCT to heal his mind at all times so it is really hard to fatigue him. Also, Hollow Purple works similar to truth seeking orbs so it removes anything from existence when it touches them.
If it was ever stated to remove anything from existence it touches that has been debunked direclty by the manga cause Sukuna survived, without using domain amp cause Maho’s wheel didn’t go black
@@TheEternalFlame57 Sukuna and Gojo both used cursed energy and simple domain, it doesn't make Gojo or Hollow Purple weaker, it just makes Sukuna and cursed energy in general stronger, as it technically is subjective reality warping, Kenjaku and Mahito talked on that. It also doesn't help any of Kage as they cant repeat things Sukuna did, so good luck to them.
I don’t see how FTG is a win-con for Minato. Because my understanding is that only the *teleporation* happens through a separate subspace, and that the kunai itself travels regularly. Therefore, if Minato could tag Gojo with the FTG seal somehow, he could get past limitless, but that’s impossible because there’s no way for the regularly-traveling Kunai to get past infinity in the first place? Right? Or am I missing something?
It would literally be like the Kunai would be stuck trying to go through infinity and then Minato appears, unless Gojo outright reflects. Minato doesn’t spawn on the Kunai he can spawn on the radius around it. Granted it’s still an iffy point but more so clarifying.
Hanami was against a Wall which led to his death ( I think it’s a dude) otherwise if minato is getting pushed back he just teleports like he does while caught mid kamui
@@ThunderGodTG I agree w this one, but it does negate the ftg win con. Minato still wins overall through evasiveness and sealing. But I don’t see a pathway for ftg to play any roll offensively. It comes down to do you think the .2 sec domain is quick enough to catch Minato off gaurd directly after this interaction (it isn’t)
I think I’ve seen attacks from behind gojo get stopped by infinty so I don’t think it relies on his eyes per say it’s more like the eyes let him maintain and control the technique efficiently and properly
if you go based of two blue vortex her mind transfer jutsu has a range of 100km around the village. and its able to bypass eidas sennrigan which can see all things around the world presently and in the past.
Good video. Just one comment about the Minato fight, idk if the kunais would bypass infinity. Shouldn’t matter since as you said Minato can just throw back any and all of Gojo’s attacks and he is way faster and he also is a genius fighter in a world of genius fighters. But at least I will give Gojo that unknown clash in that particular matchup
Not really as long as he is in the Path Of the Seal Minato Could just slice space time Itself by slicing Inside the subspace as he arrives in the Space where gojo resides
This felt very hokage biased. Any time an interaction was seen as 50/50 or even “maybe” possible the benefit of the doubt was always given to the hokage. Here’s a Gojo biased review. Tsunade: cannot touch Gojo in any way. Just gets UV instantly. Also no reason to think Gojo would drop his domain before she dies and let her heal. Dagon kept his domain open for days when he was still a cursed womb. Yuta kept his open for at least a minute fighting sukuna. Plus Gojo could hollow purple her while she is stunned. Hiruzen: there are three win conditions he “has”. Shadow possession, mind transfer, and reaper death seal. Shadow possession never catches anyone while they are airborn. Gojo is always using infinity on his whole body meaning shadow possession is not affecting him. There is no reason the infinity would work like a cup being over Gojo and not fully enveloping him. Every time shadow possession is about to catch someone they jump away. Gojo is just not getting affected. Mind transfer is not getting past infinity. It has a travel speed and therefore will never reach him through infinity. Third reaper death seal. Nothing ever implies it has infinite range but we know it travels therefore infinity just stops it. Then same story infinite void kills. Tobirama: no win condition. Video mentions the darkness genjustu stopping infinity but that’s kind of ridiculous. Firstly six eyes visual prowess does not equal the more effective cursed energy control. This is clear because during the sukuna fight Gojo gets his eye slashed while trapped in shrine. It’s never stated this drops his usage of cursed energy or infinity at all. Also if that was the case sukuna would have just focused the eyes so Gojo no longer has his advanced control of cursed energy that was letting him blast RCT. So now that we know tobirama has no win cons he just gets hollow purpled/UV/beat to death because Gojo has all the time in the world. Minato: also can’t get through infinity.I agree hollow purple could just be redirected towards Gojo but given that it affects him less this will not one shot and Gojo therefore won’t use it again. No way flying raijin goes through infinity either. It could if Gojo was already tagged with a seal but he teleports to the marks. If he can’t mark Gojo he can’t tp to him. It was mentioned he could not teleport directly to his mark and just a little bit away to hit Gojo but this leniency he has with his teleportation is not infinite. If it was he would only have one mark and then just go anywhere. And because this leniency of his tp isn’t Infinite it can’t travel through an infinite distance that is infinity. I will say though I don’t think Gojo could catch minato in UV/HP because his TP is just that fast and so is his reactions. Therefore it’s a stalemate or a 50/50 whether Gojo gets lucky and catches Minato or Minato gets lucky with Gojo missing an UV and killing him during the technique burnout. Hashirama: already discussed how bringer of darkness won’t work. Only other win con is the gas but that wouldn’t stop infinity anyway because it works from his brain not muscles leading to a draw. Also I doubt it would go through infinity because that Gojo who couldn’t figure out how to stop poisons wasn’t even able to use DE and current Gojo has a mastered DE. So logically he would have figured out the poison too. Also he could react to gas easily by just teleporting out. I don’t think Hashirama is as fast as Minato but if Gojo can’t get him with a normal domain he could just tp next to hashirama then use his 200 meter DE he used against sukuna. After that he could just hold it till Hashirama dies or because Hashirama is stunned HP probably one shots since Hashirama won’t be defending. Kakashi: honostly just a fight of who uses their best ability first. If kakashi uses Kamui he goes through infinity because kamui goes it a place kakashi sees. It also doesn’t have travel time. But if Gojo just uses DE he wins. 50/50 Naruto: frog kata doesn’t have inf range so it can’t hit Gojo. Honestly Gojo can’t hit Naruto at all and Naruto can’t hit Gojo so tie
Ten shadows is proof that shadow possession would work, and Gojo can’t block everything stop being a dumbass it’s stated otherwise. It’s literally stated the six eyes give him buffed curse energy control and he needs them to use infinity(he states anyone who can control their energy as precise as him can use it)
I wholeheartedly believe that Minato would stalemate Gojo, to use FTG he has to place a mark on his target, he was only able to teleport and beat Obito because he teleported to the Kunai he threw not to Obito himself. I don't see him pulling the same move on Gojo because Infinity works inherently different than Kamui.
Tobirama's technique won't overcome limitless because Gojo still has the six eyes. He doesn't need sight he just needs the eyes. The instantaneous limitless will still be active.
Reverse technique comes from the head that's why you get your head chopped off you obviously can't use it but everything else when it comes to curse energy if I recall does come from the gut I think lol
Reaper Death Seal would work if Hiruzen can touch Gojo. A way to nullify Infinity is by touching Gojo. I recall this being mentioned in the Sukuna fight.
Bruh, y'all are sleeping on Hiruzen. He has 2 nicknames, The Professer, and the God of Shinobi. Man was fighting prime Tobirama, Hasirama and Orochimaru at the same time. Not to mention his summoning (which is literal son wu kong but in the Naruto verse) says he never fights like this and to stop playing defensively. Meaning at minimum, at 70 years old, and holding back, he was fighting some of the 3 top fighters in ther verse at the same time.
i would argue he could regenerate limbs based of the fact orochimaru who gain his healing fractor from just some of hasiramas cells was able to regenerate his arm and called victors regen flawed despite victor being able to regenerate his head
Flying raijin is moving oast soace and time but only to somewhere where you mark. If he throughs the kunai the kunai wouldnt make it past the infinite barrier. So even if he teleports to the kunai he is still outside of limitless. He would have to somehow touch gojo physically to mark him
4:56 “every single character should be landing black flashes” problem with this is that not every single character would scale to this also, CE application doesn’t necessarily have to match movement speed.
Saying every character needs to move at this speed was a bit to general of a statement, so my bad. The issue is we know what happens when CE application does not match the movement speed. The divergent fist. Not every character is having the divergent fist happen, furthermore they use CE to amp themselves to move at this speed.
Just because a domain is an island does not main that character is or is not "island level" if that was the case Gojo literally makes and infinite void in his domain, so is he infinitely powerful? No. Use some common sense please
Idk if infinity blocks gaseous based attacks. It didn't stop Hanami's pollen. We don't know why it bypasses it but I have a few theories. If infinity doesn't work on attacks Gojo can't percieve, then reaper death and hasirama's pollen works. If it is a size thing explosions, Wind, lightning release also works.
Gojo is straight up wearing a blindfold. Sharingan is shown over and over to be ineffective unless directly looking into it. Guy avoids it with using reflections, it needs direct line of sight with the eyes. Until Gojo takes off the blindfold ocular jitsu would be useless. Also I think you're under valuing unlimited void. We have never seen Gojo pull it off seriously. The damage is based on exposure, in Shibuya is was a fraction of a second that resulted in comas, with Jogo is was a few moments that resulted in temporary paralysis, and for Sakuna it was just a few moments but it fried his physical brain to the point he lost abilities. If Gojo let any humans brain cook for long enough there would be no coming back.
I’m pretty sure Danzo was manipulating the Mifune with Shisui’s eye while blindfolded. I could be misremembering, but if not then the sharingan should hit Gojo regardless. Also I’m pretty sure Gojo can still see everything too with his blindfold and only wears it for stress.
Gojo does have the ability to use Reversed Cursed Technique to heal his exhausted cursed techniques post Domain so it generally doesn’t apply to him like Yuta notes
Teleportation working either assumes there's some range close to him where limitless doesn't work or apply OR assumes it works because it's a spatial ability Neither which works He'd just tekeport a hairs length away and still be stopped. You can be right next to him, a millimeter away and you'll still stop
your interpretation of the limitless i disagree with, i lean towards it being like broken ronin said, a closed door that he chooses to open whenever he sees fit, so the genjutsu argument i dont see working because ocular genjutsu for it to work, the chakra has to travel to your eyes and be injected into you, the limitless would just prevent the chakra from ever reaching him.
This is an interesting interpretation appreciate the insight! I will say tho ocular jutsu does not always need chakra to be injected into the opponent that’s more so for Koto, it actually varies as ocular genjutsu controls the chakra in the opponents head.
Limitless blocks CE, and therefore would block chakra, why tf did you guys set up the equal footing to completely ignore it. The dude can’t get hit by reaper death seal or koto, the both need chakra connection to work. Secondly if gojo has any thought he might be attacked at all limitless is up 360 and is not dropping. So unless you argue a long range win con with immense speed into an off fair gojo if he sees the opponent he’s not getting touched by anything physical or chakra related
Appreciate it my man ✊🏻 appreciate the insightful comments they actually help me a ton since I’m not too sure what sticking points I should be on for JJK stuff so it actually helps me a ton.
The fact that you seek out the points you aren’t sure ab and take different opinions in stride is just fucking awesome dude, and it’s what makes you the best in the business. Also more JJK pls
Sakuna didn’t tank hollow purple with his durability, he negated the technique with domain amplification, and he still got hurt before he could fully absorb the cursed energy. Purple doesn’t have normal ap it just erases things. And what the hell are you talking about with the we don’t see the wheel turn black when he’s hit by it, boi of course we don’t, he was hit off screen. Also scaling peoples destructive power to a creation feat, which is also an ultimate move is stupid on both those two levels. Black flash as a disprover for lightspeed JJK is great tho. You don’t have to have verse equalization for them to be hit by a domain, because for black flash to work the CE dimension has to exist. So in any fight with a JJK character because they have the potential to black flash the CE dimension must exist. Because the CE dimension exists anyone without a sorcerer brain will have CE, but be unable to use it. They will have CE because the CE dimension gives everyone a small amount of CE as long as they are a normal human. Bypassing limitless by exploiting its perception requirement and shutting down his ability to perceive is a great solution, I with I saw more creative shit like this when talking about bypassing the limitless.
I feel like you guys improperly represented gojos abilities and a lot of people make the same mistakes. 1). Hollow purple is absolutely at minimum matter deletion. That’s literally how physics work. Gege took the time to show us when hollow purple is fired at Toji and hanami that it literally rips through and erases everything it touches. He then went on to explain how domain amplification works and how it nullifies techniques. So OF COURSE sukuna used fucking domain amplification to block it. He doesn’t have to then show us that sukuna is using it every single time. It’s implied writing. And to counter your point on mahoraga, you forget that mahoraga died in that explosion of hollow purple so sukuna didn’t need to keep him around. He was free to use domain amplification since mahoraga died immediately. Hollow purple is absolutely matter erasure and I’m tired of hearing yall say otherwise. 2). The six eyes/ limitless combo makes it impossible to be speed blitzed. The six eyes slows down everything for the user. So even someone “moving faster than gojo can perceive” isn’t rlly possible. His eyes allow him to see and process everything faster. Thus feeding into the limitless technique. That’s why nobody in jjk was able to speed blitz him once he mastered limitless. 3). Y’all didn’t emphasize reverse cursed technique and how good gojo is at using it. And how easy it is and how little cursed energy he needs to use. 4). Less important for this video but I always see people forget to mention that the six eyes allows gojo to see through illusions. He says this when he sees kenjaku in getos body. So low level genjutsu and arguably some higher level ones shouldn’t work on him. Thanks for reading if you did 🎉
The Black flash point doesn't apply now, Black flash is more than just the speed of CE applications. The initial explanation was too simplified, so it was never true
Gojo isn’t that strong without his defense. That’s the only reason he is even in this conversation. He has the best defense in anime up there with Obito.
So many things wrong here within the first 5 mins. Claiming that Yuki doesn't scale to her black hole when she quite literally made it with her on ability, claiming no one else scales to it when Kenjakus anti gravity had to be at least as strong as the black holes gravity in order to nullify it. Additionally in the previous page it was said a blackhole of 2 cm has the mass of Earth the one Yuki made was several meters across so even suppressed its likely way above planetary. Additionally the comments about black flash have been debunked by Gojo, he said there's more to black flash than just reaction time, as if it was just that he could easily do a black flash on command, so you are likely downplaying speed a lot.
alright so I already see some flaws in these arguments I'ma just talk about the minato one y'all are acting like his telaportion coats him in this telapirting aura and you might be like WTF YOU SAYING? IT'S A SUBSPACE TELEPORT. that not what I'm referring to I'm talking about after he teleport and is out the space you say oh teleport rasengan GG when you didn't even consider the fact after the teleport is done it back to I'm moving just like normal if he teleport into the infinity man is frozen he can't move his arm forward to gojo now he being soak up into the infinity which be bad for minato and the gojo just gonna expand the infinity to blast the yellow flash away or man about to serv him the hands special with blue now that won't kill minato it be annoying more rather than true danger but that method is flawed it not true as you think and then the continues act like Oh gojo can only do one infine void no he can do more y'all forgot he can destroy the area where his curse technique I engraved bypassing that cooldown rule he did that in the fight with sukuna. so no one infinite void is not the end of him. when come to the bringer of darkness just because he blind doesn't mean infinity is turned off plus it could potentially be countered if gojo decided to destroy his a specific part of his brain which he would if his technique was exhausted plus I'm pretty sure gojo can just kill tobirama while blind since he fight alot with a blind fold so I don't see this as a real win condition at all same with hashirama. I find the donzo thing a bit contentions because who knows if he'll even use it then he would save it and not just pull it. aside from that okay but don't just discredit gojo just to gas up the kage
For Minato, you didn't even discuss the fact that infinity specifically defends against things that is a threat, and Minato placing a tag on gojo would likely bypass it, since it has zero ability to threaten gojo itself.
Blue is an attack with a very large amount of mass, like a black hole, and attracts things. Red is like the opposite, it's something with negative mass, and repels everything. Purple does both, and is an ultimate destructive force
Not exactly. Both blue and red were very easily tanked by toji and the kage's are far stronger than him. While I agree purple would do significant damage if it hit it's debatable if it is existance erasure since we've seen multiple characters tank it
I want you time stamp the exact moment I said it’s equal stats, we simply gave a more generous interpretation of limitless which didn’t make any difference in the grand scheme of the matchups we also mention the stat disparity for multiple matchups
@@ThunderGodTG to clarify, verse equalization is what im refering to. doing that defeats the integrity of the matchup. its within the first minute im not timestamping anything bud. you can watch your own vid
They're two completely different concepts which is why I asked the original question, of course I remember that I said it now that you clarified the correct term, It wasn't an equal stats vid and I know I didn't say that which why I asked for the time stamp, cause it didn't exist. You just said the wrong thing was all & the critique for verse equalization is fair, it just was a completely different point.
Kakashi Win Cons WITHOUT Kamui - 1. Out right Speed blitz. 2. Dopple Gangers. He wouldn't need more than 2 or 3. He just needs Gojo to use his Domain Once and he's smarter than Naruto. 3. Being lightspeed and Smarter than Shikamaru... Kakshi throws 2 Kunai at infitiy and instantly figures out hes can't can't hit him directly. Now you're telling me out of this mans bag of 1000 ( Minimum) Jutsu at a Hokage level can't figure anything out?
I do agree kakashi has mad versatility, but when is he light speed? When is that stated or shown? And wouldn’t that not make sense given his go to and second most powerful jutsu is lightning timer ? If his normal speed is faster than his lightning blade then he would need his sharingan active just to move around
