GER is stated (somewhere i dont remember where atm) to work “independently” to giorno, almost like an automatic stand, which would mean it doesnt matter if giorno gets hit with the domain expansion or not, as GER would revert to before the cause of any form of paralysis occurs.
@@fw_rhetorical time isn't a factor with rtz As shown with KC Either way GER probably won't stop a domain from happening but it will stop anything inside it that's an attack against giorno
@@cyrus8886 gojo’s domain is well capable of affecting ger. infinite void is when the victim is forced to take in all the information in the world, while also being unable to move. this would render the stand immobile, which would make gojo able to affect the stand. and even if you wanted to suppose that ger would be unaffected, ger would have no way to bypass the endless barrier that gojo resides in
You're actually wrong about the speed tusk act 4, and D4C were ranked in speed, even Pucci’s stats showed that his speed was infinite while giorno stats couldn't be measured showing that His abilities were beyond the conventional scaling of stands.
Tusk act 4 speed doesn't matter, you can't dodge it since the moment it's fired it hits its target in any action they make and is detached from the user. That's why Diego can rip off a limb or pass it back to Johnny when he gets hit. A rotation can't be dodge though and once fired is "fated" to hit it's target. This is what makes it terrifying and why valentine couldn't escape. Also heavens door solos jjk universe no diff.
Also stats mean like nothing. Heavens door speed is not infinite and yet it surpassed made in heavens. Or Rohan himself is a fast as fuck god like manga artist that evolved with his stand and from experience to gain infinite speed. He did out speed a avatar of a greek god after all, and outsmart them multiple times. Heavens door is overpower led but no one's talking about the man himself, he solos jjk effortlessly with his actual cracked ass speed feat showed in part 6.
I would have to disagree. Gojo's domain is aimed or at least intentionally aimed at it's target thus GER would revert the domain and Gojo would die infinitely. Many people were misinformed that GER needs to kill his victims before he set infinite death loop but there is no source for that and Diavolo wasn't killed by Giorno either My point is directly stated in the same databook where it says anyone who gets strucked by the power of zero also have their deaths to zero or in other words death loop activates. sure Giorno can't hit Gojo but Gojo hitting Giorno would be fatal for him because RTZ would activate immediately and infinite death goes brrrr Gojo simply have no chance tbh
Also giorno could negate the sure hit effect in gojos domain since he can manipulate fate (shown against diavolo) so giornos fate could be altered in gojos domain. Also giorno doesn’t have to be conscious for ger to work
@@sakuyn As I stated previously of Ger is capable of nullifying Diavolos time skip/Time erasure, nullifying infinity is child's play. Jjba cosmology itself scales to 5D multiversal+
For everyone saying gojo in the comments, gojo cant hurt him, ger reverts attacks before they happen, not during or after, diavolos attack doesnt land. Domain and all his attacks wouldnt happen. And to hurt him, he can hold a piece of gravel, make it s bug, and have it touch hollow purple.
any attack on giorno = rtz automatically launching giorno animal counter cannot be stopped (i think) i believe no matter if an attack or not, rtz can be used on/during anything giorno is practically invincible with rtz/other powers automatically activating when hes in danger, which also means the domain expansion.
Okay 15:48, I am afraid I have to argue in a different perspective. Because Infinite void is a ability it would turn into zero anyways, second even so, 0.2 seconds whatsoever, Giorno's stand works independently to defend his user, so even if it is what 0.0001 seconds of the abilities speed, that ain't working against GER. So basicly it would be a stalemate at best even if Gojo tries to eliminate Giorno. in a basic way, Gojo wins, but in a character fight dsicription, Giorno stalemates with Gojo.
I don’t understand how Giorno can just give life to a being that can walk right through Gojo’s infinity and if touches Gojo, Gojo would be eviscerated immediately. I’m only saying this because as far as we all know, Giorno’s Life Ability has no limit from what we see
@@karrotcake8862 everything has limits, even ger. Infinite rotation would defeat ger but the problem is firing it as the action of firing it is harmful to Giorno and has to be stopped. Not that it would matter since Giorno losing limbs is no problem to get rid of infinite rotation and pass it onto a lifeform he creates or even Johnny himself.
Ger slams domain is an action launched towards giorno so rtz should occur and giornos win con is rapidly aging living being like he did to the tree at the start of part 5. He never made contact with the tree to age it so assuming it works like telekinesis gojo would just age to death. Also ger is mftl so speed gap is too large
didn't giorno touch the roots of the tree to age it? ger is directly stated by giorno/ the group during the B.I.G fight that he needs his hands to imbue life, not goddamn telekinesis
@@DiegosBloodspray 1. you said diavolo doesn't erase time, but his fight with risotto disproves that. diavolo erases time and it's desired effects, hence giorno would scale to infinite speed, arguably higher. 2. you said if giorno got hit with immeasurable void, the effects would transfer to GER, that's wrong. effect (damage) transfer from stand to user not from user to stand
1. I’d have to reread that fight, but even if that is the case, Giorno doesn’t move in Diavolo’s skipped time with his raw speed, it’s GER reverting Diavolo’s actions and the time skip ability, so it wouldn’t really do anything for his speed 2. this is blatantly untrue, go look at chapter 148 of part 5 where in Diavolo’s epitaph forecast, he sees himself punching Giorno through the chest and he coughs up blood, and GER is shown doing the same, It has always been damage from your stand gets transferred to you and damage from you gets transferred to your stand
@@DiegosBloodspray 1. YES, he was moving and interacting with Diavolo in erased time. the chapter you just gave me (chapter148) proves this. it's even verbatim stated as well in the chapter. 2. Diavolo's forecast never actually came to be, they never happened. the fact is that through out series, it stated and shown that damage only goes from stand to user, never user to stand. at that point, Diavolo's premonition might have as well been his own delusions of grandeur.
1 this doesn’t address my point 2 “it never happened” doesn’t matter, because GER itself in 148 says that what Diavolo sees in epitaph is the truth and that his ability shows him events that will IN FACT occur, he just won’t reach them, and another instance of user damage given to the stand is when Carne himself is shot by Aerosmith in chapter 93, the bullet wounds are shown to transfer to B.I.G Again, this is untrue and damage dealt to either the user or stand goes both ways, always
Johnny with prep time could kill gojo, but if we don’t give Johnny enough time to achieve infinite rotation then gojo just speed blitzes Johnny before he can use the horses rotational energy
@@fake9635nah that's not true. Getting hit by tusk itself also makes infinite rotation occure and also he could give himself prep by hiding in his rotation hole that makes him practically invincible as no one but him can traverse it. Gojo would try to follow and get obliterated and fucked up by Johnny's nails. Don't fuck with Johnny because tusk would just move to gojo himself being unrestrained by infinite domain because he is a being of infinite rotation. And once he fires infinite rotation once he doesn't need a horse to fire it again like with Diego near the end of part 7. He doesn't need the horse and just balances out the inf rotation that was deflected by Diego by shooting himself in the head. Basically for how effortlessly he can shoot them and how once their fired they detach from the user and can't be stopped from hitting its target breaking reality and fate to do so, makes tusk more of a counter to gojo. Sorry but tusk is a counter to everything except calamity itself.
doesnt gojos infinity barrier allow light to pass through? then wouldnt that mean that giorno could just use the scorpion attack on him? well since those beams dont have cursed energy and seem to be lasers wouldnt it just check all the conditions for gojo's six eyes to let it pass through?
Gojo’s barrier does allow light to pass through but we don’t know if that beam is made of light or not, and even if it is, gojo can just heal any of his wounds with RCT
@@DiegosBloodspray yeah but i mean couldnt giorno just, uk shoot him in the head making him mentally incapacitated for a moment and then trap him in inf death
@@DiegosBloodspray well it looks like a laser beam without which most definitely doesn’t have cursed energy and idt it triggers any other requirements to be blocked by infinity
@@DiegosBloodspray I believe its a beam of pure life energy because GE's ability is lifegiver and its shown to be able to give life energy to things but if it does go through GER can just aim for Gojos heart or brain and destroy it and since RCT is only low-mid regen he wouldn't survive it. the real question is if infinity could even work on stands because its more like a filter than a barrier letting some things pass and others stop based on what Gojos six eyes perceive as a threat so since Gojo cant see stands any stand should be able to pass right through no?
GER will win bcs he can instantli heal from every thing around a he can shoot stones like laser and the thing he can reverse everthing to zero so giorno will win and if he not tusc act 4 will win bcs he can open his barrier and infiniti void like paper
Not sure if this is true, but stands are like ghosts, they can phase through objects and whatnot. Also, GER probably has its own personality, so GER could do things for GIorno if he cant.@@DiegosBloodspray
this all comes within one logic in the jjba universe. Only stands can interact with stands in an way.... as stands are just a visual embodiment of someones willpower. It does not actually exist in space and time.
Let’s just be honest…it’s a draw or in ger favor…you can’t hit infinite domain the reason why is it never happened he reset back to 0 it’s that simple ger is unaffected by what happening to giorno as well domain can hit giorno but then it back to 0 its an infinite loop and gojo will get tired eventually as ger has as of what we know no stamina limit
Oh this one is great Medaka is such a underrated character she is so fucking busted Dio WOH is very overpowered with the reality rewrite dio probably wins this but if medeka can copy WOH Dio gets no diffed absolute stomp not only she can copy abilities at 120% so better than the original user but she also has all fiction.
Nah, we know OH DIO wins because she can't see stands with no knowledge of the and infinite tumestop would end her instantly. Unlike other dios, this one eliminates threats immediately unless their the joestars, but that was always like Dio.
