Not really because gojo was constantly using blue to amp his strength and speed and was constantly using blue to put sukuna off balance by pulling and repulsing him with limitless.Strip gojo of limitless and it's much,much,much more close but still in gojos favour in megumi body but 4 arm sukuna is taking this according to me.
@JiggaOfficial the "gap" still isn't large. Sukuna literally has to tank gojos punches in order to adapt that's like the whole purpose of the fight. It's so obvious sukuna was holding back especially in hands, sukuna had about 4 chances to kill gojo and didn't everytime gojo lost a domain clash sukuna could have just ended the fight with fuga or when mahoraga finally adapted to infinity and slashed gojo sukuna could have just made maho aim for the head. I'm just saying this to point out the fact that sukuna was holding back especially when it came to hands
@@Raphael-slaysweaker sukuna? Sukuna has all his techniques and 10 shadows it was a 3v1 with an adapted mahoraga and gojo survived all of sukuna slashes
@@extrolic3047he survived his domain slashes that weren't meant to kill him, lmao obviously he survived sukuna wasn't trying to kill him. Other than that gojo was just spamming his CT and ragdolling sukuna with blue, so it wasn't just straight hands. The 3v1 sukuna was trying to protect mahoraga and agito was straight fodder trash so it was still pretty much a 1v1. The same way gojo fights better by himself applies to sukuna because of their overwhelming power. At the end of the day the intent behind their actions do play a factor gojo was trying to kill sukuna, sukuna was trying to adapt to gojo even when sukuna had many opportunities to kill gojo, that we know of now with fuga being revealed. In universe sukuna is the better combatant simple as that.
Gojo kept up against 3 individuals 1. Sukuna; can pop in & out of shadows, summon more Shikigami. 2. Mahoraga; Neutralized 60% of Gojo's technique and created openings fir the other 2. 3. Agito; immediate RTC, natural electric abilities and was a secondary autonomous fighter along side Mahoraga. If people really believe that Sukuna having 2 extra arms was gonna be more valuable than 6 arms with extra abilities than idk what to tell them.
1. Sukuna has shown being stronger in domain clashes after the first one when gojo beat him up, Sukuna should’ve gone true form and that way he could’ve actually hit him, and guess what Sukuna would win
@@a123_epicu do realize if where gonna speak technical Give me a reason why GoJo has to enter domain clash you do realize he doesn’t right ? U take the domain out all sakuan has is da and GoJo is faster then him 💀that won’t work well in his favor . So in terms of being the most technical GoJo actually should of won and would of won js
Gojo had to do enough damage to Sukuna in each domain clash before his domain was destroyed, and Gojo succeeded each time. Meaning Sukuna did not have the skill to prevent let alone overpower Gojo in the domain clashes. Gojo claims it in hand to hand
Why would that make more sense? Lol Gojo literally 1v3 sukuna, mahoraga and agito with ease and demolished all them with hands. Makes sense Gojo is the superior in hand to hand.
@@KyuubiSageagito barely even counts it was just a random shikigami, mahoraga was only there to adapt and sukuna was just trying to keep mahoraga alive. That's the reason why sukuna was attacking, which gojo himself states sukuna was on the offensive to protect mahoraga and stop him from just getting 1 shotted. I know it was cool that gojo came out with the W in that moment and your so happy your king got the dub but it was all apart of the plan for sukuna as mahoraga just need to adapt a second time in order for sukuna to obtain his advancements, which he didn't need to win the fight btw sukuna could have just killed gojo in the first domain clash with fuga and dismantle combo. Or when mahoraga first adapted to infinity and cut off gojos arm. He could have just had maho aim for the head instead and end it there pretty much saying that gojo was 1 level below sukuna which was stated by gojo himself anyone who thinks otherwise is just coping because the author and the series itself tells us sukuna is the stronger combatant.
@@Six-bw3irNo one ever said Gojo was stronger. Gojo just had better hand to hand which makes sense because of his mastery of Wing Chun. Sukuna just throws hands (albeit, very well) but Gojo actually uses a real life martial art technique which is why he is better in hand to hand. Sukuna is obviously the stronger of the two and no one is trying to refute that. It seems like you're the one coping here because someone wasn't slobbering all over Sukuna's knob like you do.
@@astreusastresus198 nah, I just don't want people lying and spouting wrong opinions. Ni reason to be hostile buddy. If I wanted to be right ide just say heien sukuna.
Gojo won the domain clash because he was able to adapt his domain, he was able to win against a domain made to break other domains. He also won cqc and use of his cursed technique. Gojo didn't know batshit about sukuna's domain but still adapted on the fly. Sukuna knew everything about UV but still got his ass kicked.
The reason gojo beat sukuna in those 3 minutes is because sukuna wasn’t using DA as a means to adapt maho. Sukuna when using DA is doing perfectly fine against Gojo even if you think he’s slightly more proficient
Your point would be valid if sukuna changed his domain specifically to beat gojo's at the start of the fight. Sukuna used his normal domain and it was just better than gojo's and destroyed it. Sukuna didn't change his domain to beat gojo's it was gojo who changed his domain to beat sukuna's.
You 100% didn't read the fight. Gojo lost the domain clash 4 times, the 3rd and 4th time ended in a "tie" because Sukuna took too much damage to keep up his domain at the same time Sukunas domain BROKE Gojo's. In the 5th domain "clash" Gojo only won because he got his domain off first and Sukuna took brain damage before he could get his of, he never actualy won a domain battle. Sukuna's domain is just better for clashes
13:37 Black flash works by increasing the amount of cursed energy in a punch to the power of 2.5, hence Gege saying: 'What the heck is "one cursed energy"?!' when the bear guy explains that exponents aren't necessarily stronger than multiplication in the extra for volume six elaborating on black flash. So a character outputting 10 CE into a punch and hitting a black flash would be 31.6 times stronger since 10 to the power of 2.5 is 316 and 10 goes into 316 31.6 times. Still pretty damn inconsistent with the damage and unquantifiable considering we never get numbers for CE besides a not so serious Gege saying 'So cursed energy starts with two…?' in that same volume extra.
@Katalin04 but then characters that take zero damage from normal punches get one shot by the black flash variations so it should be way more than times 2.5 especially with hard it is to land.
Haha i was thinking when you made the analogy between mountain level and cash that just hypes up sukuna more for taking a hit from Gojo or mahoroga blocking two black flashes. As well as him taking so many from yuji with the soul vibration and even maki withstanding three from sukuna man sukuna is a menace true fiction character that is overpowered
Gojo's black flashes have to be the strongest in the whole series since his punches alone are super strong because of how he imbues them with blue and then you multiply that with a black flash.
So i saw this question on Reddit. If the Japanese government decided to nuke Sukuna, will they succeed on killing the King of Curses? Lets say the nuke is the equivalent to Fat Man. And how will RCT work against nuclear radiation?
Japan had 0 nukes... Anyways let's say they borrow some nukes from usa (breaking the military deal) and nuke sukuna, if it's a direct hit , very close to sukuna , He is done in single hit with his head gone and a shadow remains. For sukuna to survive the explosion, the nuke should be far from him , missing the target and radiation get's sukuna , he probably needs to use rct every second for him to keep on leaving, because radiation is not just a random battle wound , it's the weapon of mass destruction. So sukuna will survive... With low chance , unleash, "WITH THIS SACRED TREASURE I SUMMON"
Megumi's bum aura is so powerful it negates Sukuna's HIM energy he had in Shibuya. Even the King of Curses turns into the King of Frauds when Megumi is involved.
While its true that both Gojo and Sukuna were weakened during the time Sukuna was black flashed, he did also just get hit by an off-guard Red straight to his back, propelling him straight into the attack. Gojos black flashes are of course very strong, but there are additional stipulations other than just the two of tjem were weakened.
Gojo: used domain expansion like 5 times, regen his brain 5 times “I think”, had to use rct for sukuna domain, also had to use shadow style, also went 3v1 , also had to be careful about how he uses his moveset because of mahoraga adaptation, eye strain, and to top it off with a little sprinkle of rct to heal his arm……. Yea na gojo definitely was the more weakened and fatigue one during the fight….. also forgot he used hollow purple twice
@@makeouthill5534 The only point of my comment was to point out that it wasn't solely a black flash that led to Sukuna being momentarily incapacitated. Not to argue that Gojo wasn't also fatigued, or that he wouldn't be able to beat Meguna in hand to hand.
@@Revision-Harrowed I think it was solely the black flash. Just a page before I think he was smiling. You don’t just go from that to being out cold because of fatigue from the whole fight. He got hit with probably the strongest punch he’s ever felt and got clocked. lol it happens to the best of us in real life. And yea no gojo was already beating Meguna in h2h combat
So imagine ur gege akutami ur about to do a fight against the strongest, most anticipated fight but given the nature of both characters abilities the fight would be limited to just domain clashes so gege ops to have sukuna use 10 shadows for a more drawn out and entertaining fight. Using 10 shadows put sukuna at a disadvantage in hand to had combat as he can't fight back if he isn't using amp, people ignore, they just think gojo is that superior after gojo's death gege goes out of his way to make gojo him self debunk all the agendas and narratives being pushed about the fight because people either didn't understand the fight or just biased for their favorite character. He himself said sukuna wasn't giving it his all and he doesn't think he would win if sukuna didn't have 10s but somehow after a year people don't get it or just don't want to get it.
@@xebec995why you say keep that in mind when its completely baseless. gojo caved megunas chest in twice with raw punches, and was able to keep up with meguna mahoraga and agito at the same time with 1 arm. hes notably faster and stronger, with better durability feats of being able to tank shrine easily while sukuna with max output domain amplification took major damage any time he was hit by any of gojos ct. youre assuming heian era sukuna gets a completely unreasonable and unprovable buff in power to surpass someone that was faster, more durable, and able to cave in the chest of a version of sukuna that has heightened ce output which is the primary thing determining physical ability for sorcerers
4:30 okay so you actually don’t retain the buff to stats from an open barrier domain as you lose the environmental change that a closed barrier domain provides
Mans forgot about JJK0 and Miguel catching non-stop hands for like 5 minutes. Not only can Gojo straight up box, but he is also (literally) Ip Man levels of proficient in Wing Chun
One thing I want to point out in Sukuna’s defense Is that he was using Domain Amplification, which I would assume to come extent makes him weaker Since instead of using his full output for Enhancement, he has to use a decent amount of his output for Domain Amplification… But this is full assumptions because for all we know Sukuna is perfectly capable of using both at the same time at FULL output
Just wanna say that gojo fought 20 finger, domain amped and expanded meguna for a significant amount of time without infinity only rct for a significant amount of time, regardless if sukuna was holding back or not, that is a damn impressive feat
Gojo was offensively better and pressed a lot more than meguna did with him, but megunas defense confiscated for his offense like 3 out of 4 times they went H2H and i’d say meguna’s probably > defensively with the corner’s he was put in There’s questions on how his heian body would do but most things lead to his favor
People really underestimate the power of 2 extra arms. I mean back in shibuya, the narrator was gassing up itadori for being able to keep up with the grasshopper curse who had multiple arms, so taking an already god level hand to hand fighter like sukuna, and giving him his 4 arms back, which he is likely more used to fighting with compared to just 2, and he can easily overcome the marginally small gap between a 2 arm sukuna and gojo
I agree with both conclusions you came to but one thing people forget about True Form Sukuna is that he's also more durable than Megkuna, so it'd be even harder for Gojo in that scenario
It comes down to if he’s in meguna or yujikuna, we can see how mich better he fights in yuji’s body bc yuji’s body is more suited for combat bc of yuji’s immense strength as a human and sorcerer but even in Megumi’s body when he’s using domain amp he’s shown keeping up with and sometimes overpowering Gojo and in the domain clashes they were shown equal. if it was a 20f Yujikuna v Gojo i feel like sukuna would’ve done better in the H2H situation than he did as meguna
Nothing will change my mind that Gojo got robbed in this fight, learned the world cutting slash immediately and Gojo just got snuck with an ult Sukuna didn't even have until Raga did so
Gege said there are two characters in JJK that are tied for best in terms of raw fisticuffs. And it's Gojo tied with Kenjaku (beats me as to why, the guy never throws hands)
@@GreatLakes2551i see you point but in volume 0 there is no implication that gojo beat miguel as hard as he did in the anime. With that beeing said we see Gojo training megumi hands only and after showing yuji his unlimited void he trained Yuji hands on with CE no CT and he most likely whooped Yuji so of course Gojo is top tier hand to hand but without blue i still think base power Sukuna is higher
Wait till its gets animated and people see Sukuna hold back the entire fight to create his new technique thats why he says “you are but a nameless fish in a pond, a bigger one yes but nonetheless nameless. Ill start by peeling off your scales.” Scales in a fish protect the fish from harm (not really but thats the intended function) so Sukuna’s plan was to best infinty not gojo. Notice how when he defeated infinity Gojo was dead in a single attack?
The problem with black flash is that multiplying by the power of 2.5 doesn’t make any sense because we usually use kilojoules or joules to scale characters in fiction. The numbers are not the same like at all. That’s why to me black flash is kinda useless sometimes because it either gives you a shit ton of power or it doesn’t go up by that much
People saying gojo is better in battle of hands but refuse to be elaborate. For one, Megumis body is physically weak, sukunas cursed energy output is lower and all around is weaker whilst in megumis body. We even get flat out information that when sukuna went into his true form not only does he gain 2 hands and a mouth that make chanting easier and faster, but his cursed energy output is on another level while in his true form. Thats why hes able to throw domain expansaions back to back due to his refinement being on another level but more importantly his output allowing him to keep landing these big attacks
About mahoraga tanking gojos black flash, we gotta remember that mahoraga slowly adapta to all phenomena so he would have been slowly adapting to gojos punches as well
not necessarily, but he would adapt to the odd spatial distortion that is black flash since gojo black flashed sukuna while he had mahoragas wheel and would be providing the sample for adaptation
Wait I might be misremembering what Sukuna actually said, but didn't he tell Kenjaku That he inst going to switch to his true form because Megumis body is better for fighting sorcerers? I don't think Sukuna was saying that in fear of losing the 10 shadows technique so him saying must mean he purposely didn't switch to use his body to fight Gojo with it, doesn't that mean it be less effective in a brawl? Since the benefit of his 4 arms and 2 mouths is for chanting and hand signs, I don't think Sukuna can use his 4 arms as effectively for fighting
@@darkanddolly16 I mean he won because of Mahoraga, but I don't think he would've lost 10 shadows when switching to his new body, he still has Megumis soul
@@NuhUh235_IS_FLIPPING_TAKEN he would ig , cause sukuna in current stage hadnt use a single 10S technique after turning in true form. Also hakari and kuskabe and higuruma disscussed some things about sukuna not being able to use 10S after transforming in ch 240 smwhere
That statement is referring to the ten shadows, which sukuna wouldnt have in this fight anyways, besides, when he talks about fighting sorcerers, i assume he means like countering cursed techniques and shit, which neither of them would have here.
Everyone keeps forgetting that while doing hand to hand with gojo sukuna intentionally got hit by gojo and fought defensively for maho adaptation . As more he gets hit, the faster adaptation is done .If you watch the battle carefully, sukuna was defensive and patient most of the time, and gono was in a hurry to finish this battle off because he realized what sukuna is after , gojo himself revealed sukuna was stronger than him ,
Guy who fought aggressively the whole(Gojo) vs the guy who was fighting defensively who was studying is opponent(Sakuna) I sure don’t know who’s gonna win 😭
Before going into the video... Gojo is beating the hell out of Sukuna without them utilizing innate/inherited techniques. Domain Amplification only allows Sukuna to bypass Infinity, not get better hand to hand combat. Gojo is arguably the greatest hand to hand combatant in the series, more than even Yuji & Heavenly Restriction Users, and the only other person that has a chance for this spot is Kenjaku simply due to overall experience in combat. Sukuna's RCT is just about as good as Gojo's RCT, and considering Gojo will be landing many more hits & overall causing more damage to Sukuna, he'll have to utilize RCT much more than Gojo will. Sukuna's only other non-innate/inherited technique that he really has is Hollow Wicker Basket, which in-character he doesn't utilize much and only really utilizes against Yuta's domain and will be pretty much useless in this fight. Meanwhile, Gojo still has the Six Eyes, allowing him to out last Sukuna with pure attrition if needed, and can see the flow of cursed energy as well. He also much greater & superior hand-to-hand combat, equally good RCT in regards to this battle, and Falling Blossom Emotion which could be useful to block some of Sukuna's attacks passively. Gojo simply beats him in h2h, has equal RCT but can use it as much as he wants & will have to use it less since he has better h2h, and Falling Blossom Emotion can passively block Sukuna's attacks and Six Eyes can provide a level of precognition.
they were shown to be relative when sukuna had DA on but he couldnt have it on at all times due to him needing mahoraga to adapt which is why it seem like gojo dominated h2h when really sukuna couldnt even fight back because he couldnt use DA to neutralize Infinity.
@toddasome12 ??? Domain Expansion has a sure hit. It bypasses infinity by default. Gojo was just using simple domain and rct to aid him against sukuna's domain. Sukuna is by default better at domain clashes because he has an open domain. He can just break the opponents domain from the outside. It's hard to say who is better at h2h because they seemed pretty evenly matched, but sukuna did 3 V 1 gojo with, mahoraga and agito. If you win a 3 v 1, wouldn't you technically say you're the better fighter?
3:35 bro really forgot or didn’t know that Gojo is a Wing Chun expert as demonstrated when he beat up Miguel in Zero. Wing Chun is the martial art that IP Man uses by the way… I just thought I’d point that out since people seem to overlook this.
I have a question. Can Sukuna defeat the entire La Squadra (Risotto' Team) from JJBA? Some of them have wacky and downright dangerous abilities (Risotto and Pesci are dangerous)
Risotto and Pesci would definitely cause him problems. Baby face wouldn’t really do much, but if they stall long enough for Grateful Dead to have enough effect, I could see them winning. But that’s only if Sukuna doesn’t blitz them and kill them quickly. It’s easy and natural to think of dismantle as a normal little slash, but when you actually pay attention to what it can do you realize it’s easily city level in terms of destructive potential and AP, and can one shot most characters in JJK at full power
Yuji: Would you lose to Sukuna in hand to hand combat only? Gojo: Maybe if he grew two extra arms and a extra mouth. He might give me a little trouble then. Yuji: But would you lose? Gojo: Nah I'd Win.
3:00 Why do y’all call this precognition? Is it not simply making predictions based on how the air is moving around your opponent? Isn’t precognition being able to literally see into the future?
