Pin it dbs cosmology is infinite in size, there is also heaven which transcend the living world. Heaven is 5d, making it multiversal cosmology. but keep in mind, it is infinite in size which is also stated that a dbs universe contains infinite amount of dimension that transcend each infinitely, making the cosmology high hyperversal easily.. Goku in BoG is threatening to destroy it, making him high hyperversal in BoG. Now current super Goku can one shot BoG Goku no diff, that makes super Goku AT LEAST high hyperversal as he can easily destroy a universe in dbs. Note that he transcend dbs cosmology by a lot, so he can destroy it with ease, making him Outerversal.
Goku never threatened to destroy cosmology,not even his universe.”hE nUlliFiEd iT”he can’t do that,because if he could he would’ve done it against jiren
the Godzilla versus maybe if you’re not counting Ultima and avoid get Ghidorah and Godzilla in Hell Also, the god of war verse I do not think it is going to be like that
As a dragon ball fan, to this day I still don't know why people scale him to outerversal, but I agree he scales to at least complex multi I say this because no one ever explained where he has demonstrated outerversal level feats
The Outerversel argument comes because of the Complex Cosmology of Dragon ball bro. It's way more complex, way more massive than you think. Just do a good amount of research on the cosmology and you will know why Goku Solos. Hell i even have a short vid on my channel which will give all the proof you need.
Basically koyama stated that dragon ball has an infinite Dimensional hierarchy proved by the instant transmission realm and the afterlife according to this daizenchuu four world guide: > The heavenly gods, which are higher than the heavens and transcend the dimensions that cannot be seen from the human world, are looking down at everything in the world from this earth. By which the db universe is outerversal hence Goku is outerversal
@@yonathannoelguerrerogarciaEl error que cometiste fue no informarte del hecho de que en dragon ball los universos son multiversos y goku y bills casi destruyen el suyo y goku hizo mas en ese choque de poderes que bills confirmado por akira toriyama en un articulo y goku absorbio el poder del Blue en estado base y fue hace bastante haciendo que Zenkais+entrenamiento+el potencial de goku en su forma base sea Multiversal bajo
docs.google.com/document/d/1shfXgy8YYMSjhxdVGqGKy7mIbWDULEw7_ehfMOrN3dY/edit docs.google.com/document/d/1W0WEUpYLMzGk0Lp-XXvSSkW5vgpssyv6ntZsuUxvfiY/edit Here’s proof of this and you don’t have to look at it but here it is
that scale is full of wank and misinformation. "it's a dimensionally transcendent heavenly realm, so it's above an infinite amount of hierarchy of dimensions. So, so far this is a low outer feat" here it basically assumes dragon ball have infinite hierarchy of dimensions because otherworld/ after life is said to be dimensionally transcendent" which is super wrong. it's dimensionally transcendent over mortal world which is 4D. not to mention after life doesn't actually transcend anything if we go by tiering system. because it need to see lower world that it "transcend" as fiction/2D. where after life and mortal world is equally real. plus they need to show us a infinite hierarchy of dimensions where the higher dimensional structure have r>f over the lower one. which DB never did. so it is 4D. the super dimension/ extra dimensional doesn't scale you anywhere unless they specify and give more information about that. which db didn't do. they just said "super dimension" another translation says extra dimension. so again just 4D or at best 5D. the "zamasu can destroy infinite parallel world" is wrong as high ball. goku and others only says zamasu will destroy other parallel world. no one ever mentioned the numbers of parallel world. not to mention DBS only showed 7+ parallel world via time ring which represents the parallel worlds. only XenoVerse, heroes aka games showed infinite multiverse. (also just destroying infinite parallel world is just multiversal) not to mention we've never seen zamasu destroying an entire timeline. only zeno did it. conclusion DBS Goku= low multiversal to multiversal. a bit higj ball low complex multiversal.
You have given sooo accurate info thanks for this all ngl this is truly amazing.... And u only talked till Dbs: Super Hero where Goku is outerversal (tier 1-A), but but but, I wanna tell you two more things- 1). Super Dragon Ball Heroes and 2). Dragon Ball Super: The real 4D So, firstly I would talk about Super dragon ball heroes, long story short, this story is just after Dbs broly where future trunks and mai comes in main timeline to goku and vegeta to train 😅 and then f. Trunks is kidnapped by someone and then the main villian Fuu appears in front of Goku and then acts like he is trunks' friend and trunks is kidnapped on a planet in timeline 7!!! Yes, 👍 trunks is literally captured in his own timeline 😑 then idk how timeline 1 (main timeline) Goku and vegeta with f. Mai and fuu go into timeline 7 😑 like they time travel into another timeline! Then they meet strong warriors on that planet and find f. Trunks and learn about Xeno Goku.... He was from a separate timeline where the events of Db, Dbz, all movies and Db gt happened and after that Goku of that timeline became a time pattroler along with vegeta and achieved a new form Super full power SAIYAN 4 limit breaker.. .. Btw in this timeline Goku is outerversal in base ☠️ And vegeta too because they fused in gogeta which requires 2 person to be equal in power........☠️☠️☠️☠️.....Then Goku meets many enemies alongside with Xeno Goku............ Then the main thing..... There is a tree known as universal tree which is able to create universes!!! And the size of its roots are equal to a whole universe!! Can u even imagine how big???!! Sooo this tree's tremendous power was absorbed by Fuu.... But Goku (main one) arrives there and absorbs the energy too in ssb form sooo.... He transforms into a new transformation known as universal super Saiyan blue which was as powerful to defeat whole Dbs cosmology by touching ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ then he defeated Fuu. But but but Xeno Goku was originally stronger than Goku main because idk 😐...... But Xeno Goku faces a villian called Chamel who was able to destroy Infinite amount of multiverses and time just by his presence 😬😬😬 then Chamel sent a destructive ball which could destroy Infinite multiverses and time but the giga Chad Xeno Goku in his base holds the ball and throws it and destroys it in a millisecond without any efforts 🥶🥶🥶🥶 on top of that Xeno Goku defeats a villian in his base who was Boundless who was gonna destroy Infinite db multiverses and real life!!!!!! Where we live!! But Xeno Goku killed him in base😬😬😬😬☠️☠️☠️. And everybody state that he's the strongest warrior in the history existence stronger than zeno and all. Now u might be thinking why am I telling feats of Xeno Goku, that's because now writers have confirmed that Goku is equal in power to Xeno Goku in his base 😬😬 and Goku base is now outerversal. They both were equal till ssj3 but now Goku universal ssb surpasses. just imagine it ☠️☠️☠️
And next is Dbs the real 4D....... Till now we talked about outerversal but what if I tell u there's a tier above it.... Its Boundless (0) Now Dbs the real 4D is a cinema attraction japanese movie where the story is bout broly who tries to destroy the earth and the whole multiverse with no reason but to take revenge from Goku and vegeta.... He has a new form call God broly and literally when broly transforms into it the real life cinema chairs were moving making broly God Boundless 🥶🥶 but Goku and vegeta were not able to stop him so Goku decided to do fusion with audience in the cinema 🥶🥶 he breaks the fourth wall and then fuses with audience thus creating God fusion Goku who was Boundless too and one Kamehameha's God broly☠️☠️
Lemme clear one thing for those who think goku isnt that fast see it and see it welll speed of light=299 792 458 m / s Goku in mui is said to be trillion times faster than that💀
Goku is high multiversal, his strongest feats are multi galaxy level though because of dragon ball's weird powerlevel differences. Apparently goku was stated to be able to destroy the universe in one pumch with super saiyan god, but thats clearly fake. He couldnt even destroy a planet in the further series. So goku is multi galaxy since that is his highest feat. He is stated to be high multiversal and 5D. Meanwhile we got error sans here who can easily no diff goku. I got proof. His creator confirmed error was 6D. While swap was talking in the comic for like a minute, error sans came back to check on swap and said he destroyed a few universes. And these universes arent paper or something cuz thats not canon. So yeah error is incredibly powerful. People just think hes weak as hell.
@@BrenTheRizzlerFr I read it. There was no proof as to why Goku is high outer. Jiren was one of the strongest opponents of gokus including fused zamasu, but never even show proof that jiren is still strong. About broly vs Goku being send to another dimension, I would've agreed but Goku still can't destroy the universe with a single punch because that's what Goku was stated to be able to do. If he could one shot universes, he's a bit weaker than error sans. He still lacks the ability to breathe in space placing him WAYY below. Goku is still 5D. And that heaven and hell thing did not make sense. Goku wasn't even included there. All of what there was didn't place him any higher than multiversal. that guy doesn't even know how to scale powerlevels.
Error sans isnt even cannon its made by the fandom for undertale au's @user-re6xq7lz4i Gokus highest feat isn't shaking the universe but the T.O.P as he shakes the infinite void clearly is 5-7D + the db universe is bigger as it consist with the macrocosm . These macrocosm consist of layers of dimensionality and if that's not enough for you , Arale powerscaling feats shows at Super saiyan blue => Arale and arale is a gag character that scales to comp multi - hyperversal (I disagree goku is outerversal)
@@ISusii-nv4rv he didn't shake the infinite void, that was debunked. He only shook the the area that the TOP was taking place in. He's 5D. Error is still a thing and one of the weakest and pretty embarrassing how error wins against Goku. Goku is still multiversal.
@@Souryarana3674 How could I not know the biggest meat ridden character in anime history. Goku isn't God or even a god. Goku isn't even close and never will be to the Father. Please stop joking around lol
ahm , I'm a DB fan but this is so much ! As there are endless possibilities in the multiverse and goku is nothing for them ! I know goku is the strongest in the anime verse but you can't compare it to the multiverse and higher undiscovered levels !
Proof that dbz goku alone is outerversal : The Humans in DB See Dragon Quest Characters as Fiction Dragon Quest is 2 Layers into Outer Via Transcending The Concept of Dimensionality and Space and Time and being Beyond the CONCEPT OF Chaos And This is Conceptually Transcended In and Infinite Loop of R>F Transcendence's This is High Outerversal or higher. goku in dbz alone is stated that he was able to destroy the otherworld that doesn't have the concept of space and time and doesn't have metaphysics , a realm that transceded dimentions (outerversal), this already means dbz goku already was outer so base dbs goku will be outer or higher and this supports my claims that goku is outerversal tier easily in base alone , so is possible for cc goku to be high outer in base , and sure for base xeno goku. Bro don't trust this goku downplayers bcuz they says all the time 'goku is low multi' and they don't know any shit about goku.
You guys always scale him to multiversal ever since the Top bruh. Don’t you guys ever realize that he’s gotten STRONGER since then? I honestly think he stops at hyperversal but he is definitely higher than multiversal currently
Goku > Infininite layers into outerversal. So to start off Dr. slump views dragon quest as a game that they have R > F transcendence over Dragon quest is a verse that has realms that are outside the concept of time, space, and form making dr. Slump 1 layer into outerversal Dr. slump has an infinite loop of outerversal R > F transcendences making Dr. Slump infinite layers into outer Dr. slump is a part of dragon balls earth making dragon ball characters existence outer We also have to remember that the more power that you have the faster you are in Dragon Ball so all of their physical stats would be beyond tiering This alone would make dragon ball one of the strongest if not the strongest verse in fiction.
Ok , i scaled all forms of goku (current + dbs) : Base goku : complex multiversal . SS1 goku : complex multiversal to high complex multiversal . SS3 goku : high complex multiversal . SSG goku : low hyperversal . SSB goku : hyperversal SSB KK20 goku : hyperversal to high hyperversal . UI goku : low outversal . MUI goku : low outversal to outversal . TUI goku : outerversal All its extrem lowball if we use statements and db databooks.
@@samjhanajimi7269 xeno is complex multiversal. another above low outer for him is high ball. and someone here gotta be smocking crack to think he's boundless
@@Plxyer04 no version of dragon ball game scale to boundless. also xeno goku game lost to cc goku. and game cosmology is complex multiversal. xeno goku game is complex multiversal.
No, right now Goku stops at his own universe because there are two mortals stronger than him😅 he could be high multiversal( but seriously can't go Omniversal and onwards) but now him own universe doesn't let him go on that level. Means universe 7(excluding destroyers and angels) = beyond high multiversal
This is not true at all, goku caps out at multi-universal 5d with MFTL+ to low multiversal 5D with MFTL+. The entire cosmology is at best complex multiversal. Also the scans saying that that the universe contain infinite amount of dimensions that transcend each other infintely is wrong. There's no link or information to back up the scan and when an actual japanese person read it, they instantly knew it was wrong.
What ? MFTL+ speed ? its extremly lowball of base goku speed , because the angels sayed that ui omen goku (ToP saga) in his clash with jiren they are out of space and time making him in ui omen (ToP saga) with immeasurable speed , and rimember that ui omen goku (ToP)
@YoucefAMD just because they are out of space and time doesn't mean that they are moving at infinite speed, that would mean in any place where time doesn't flow, you are moving at infinite speed which would mean that goten and trunks in z would be infinite and basically every vharacter is infinite which is just stupid. Goku has 5D ap not infinite speed. And also travel speed and attacking speed are 2 separate things.
@@BreadMasterKalorie Rimember that goku without using instant move hacked a attack that is comming from futur using ssB (not full power)kk 10 = faster than time
@@YoucefAMD First of all which attack was the one that came from the future, second of all using instantaneous teleportation would be useless if he can already move at infinite speeds. Third of all Koyama who wrote the movie himself stated on 28th july 2022 at 8:36 AM that "In my opinion, Garlic Jr. himself wouldn't have a complete understanding of the details of the dead zone. Therefore, it would not have been to completely judge whether it was an infinite omnidirectional hell or not. The creator of the dead zone is not Jr. at the time I wrote the movie scenario, I didn't think too much about it myself." The other world is not an infinite space, stop spreading such myths.
@@BrenTheRizzlerFr Brother i think sometimes you are right but sometimes times i think u use headcanons too much and use cosmology details. But can u use the information provided by the manga and the author in this series .it will be interesting. 💪👍
@BrenTheRizzlerFr bro your information is right but when you are about to compare two different characters from different stories like Goku vs sSuperman It becomes a big mess. As an example DC multiverse and cosmology are 1000 times bigger than DB cosmology and what is your opinion when DC fans use their headcanons [The DC multiverse is very very large and powerful. Every part of it is explained in great detail] {Because DC is a company 😅} . And every fan have to accept DC MULTIVERSEL and DB MULTIVERSEL characters have huge power and ability gap 🤔
feats of goku. Super Saiyan 3 shook the entire underworld. This kingdom in Daizenshuu 4 is indicated as a dimensionless kingdom. heavenly kingdom beyond dimensions heavenly country transcendental to dimension it cannot be perceived from the living world daizenshuu 4 page 18. The dead zone of Daizenshuu 5 is described as a super space of 10-12d. the living world is a many-worlds interpretation or Hilbert space in Bulma's book the wave function and quantum mechanics were shown, series 50 1-C low to 1-B high. novelization of the 16th film chapter 6 extra-dimensional battle or battle beyond dimensions. goku's base uses subspace to move long distances in this kingdom there is no concept of time and space this kingdom lies beyond the space-time dimension of 0d or 1-a. a super saiyan god could destroy the entire structure of the macrocosm it was just a leak of his ki after he absorbed the power super saiyan god in the base that is, goku in the base can destroy the macrocosm which can scale 1-C low to 1-A or 1-A high
im a db fan so in my opinion he caps at low multiversal since i dont believe in statements i believe in action (ofc unless if it was stated by akira tokirayama himself) (oof i forgot his gone)
@@AzerNbvHe really doesn't, in fact he can't even solo his own verse. How will he solo far stronger characters that hit boundless? The answer is he doesn't. Any reality warper or omnipotent being that can simply think Goku out of existence would neg diff him.
@@user-re6xq7lz4i bro…goku was gonna destroy the universe while clashing with beerus,the universe houses the macrocosm, the macrocosm contains the afterlife (hell,heaven,kaiourealm,enmarealm). And this isn’t no multi galaxy feat💀
