Learn how to make more gold with borax instead of mercury. Description of a new environmentally beneign gold extraction method which will make use of mercury for gold extraction redundant.
After washing, the solid precipitate is basically composed of Gold (Gold compounds to be more exact) and other possible metals which present in oxide formation. Since borax tends to dissolve most metal oxides easily in its molten state, Gold particles will eventually sinter into a whole and separate itself from the slag containing impurities. The received gold is not entirely pure and needs further refinement to reach higher degree of purity.
Using borax when melting the concentrates to obtain the gold is a standard gold refining step. It does NOT produce more gold than using mercury, but is far safer.
Awesome and interesting video! Instead of wasting time trying to constantly harass and stop these people from mining (which doesn't work), this video is educating miners from all over the world to use a safe method of extracting the gold! We need minerals - can't "throw the baby out with the bath water, man!" And I'm going to link it to my website
Use a Frensel lens from an old tv or projection device. It is a large magnifying "glass". The solar circle can reach 3,000 degrees f if focused or the circle size can be increased reducing the temperature to the required level. The sun is free, generally available and environmentally friendly. It reduces labor costs by settingit up to run every day when the sun passes over. It can be readjusted many times a day for more production. It is lite and completly portable.
what you mean? we have borax in south africa www.fruugo.co.za/borax-powder-bulk-bucket-tub-sodium-tetraborate/p-38168848-78361478?language=en&ac=google
i used both borax and mercury when im still a gold processor,i feel my body was slowly sick bec. of mercury,after many years i have left my work after 12 years and i feel that my body is not healthy anymore.. mercury is for extracting gold,borax is only used when your processing or cooking the gold
This is a good method. It is a type of smelting. I am a small California miner and assayer. WHen they get enough money they should buy a small concentrating table and eliminate the panning step. Thanks for teaching this method to the miners.
I was familiar with the use of Borax as an agent in Capelling. This is good information for some of the DIY crowd to keep them away from trying other more dangerous methods, Bravo....
This is a very well documented video on using "Borax" . I think everyone knows about Mercury poisoning but I wonder how many knows about harming the environment ? This video could possibly save some environment. I know the dangers of Mercury, even a few you didn't disclose but didn't know the Borax process. Again, Thank you ever so much.
You are absolutely correct. Interesting how this video received so many likes, apparently no one who watched it actually had any hands on gold mining experience.
(,") I agree with you cords mist, as a i am too a smale scale pocket miner, the mercury and borax are used in two separate ways. Before mercury came, we used that old technique of gathering gold dust' but takes time. Then came the Mercury which made gathering the golddust much easier. I thought i was gonna see a different type of technique, but its still the same type used by our forefathers.
for purification, it works a treat! iv had gold with steel impurity (i picked up the soft melted gold button with pliers and some welded to the cooling gold) i gave it two more melts with borax and a blowtortch (MAPP Gas) and could watch as it melted and then blew off/away the impurities and left a beautiful gold. the borax clean will leave the gold visibly brighter, than when in its native form with Iron and Silver impurities. for very fine gold i take my time with a pan. even without a magnet i pan down to just gold. its not hard, just takes time and patience. Mercury will catch the very small and microscopic gold but how much $$$ is that micro gold worth vs how much $$$$$$$$$$$$ will illness cost to treat (plus as they say, contaminated environment for generations to come)
Many, many, many years ago, I used borax and high heat to concentrate lead recovered from car battery plates. I found collecting wheel weights was more efficient until wheel weights were modified so that they don't fly off of rims as easily as they did 50 years ago. The lead was used to make fishing weights. That was just one of my one million hobbies.
Excellent stuff.....I teach the borax method to my miners however I teach them to conduct gold smelting in closed cycle and not with open blow torches and charcoal. Supply me your video and I will supply you mine....Cheers.
Wow!!!! so many uses for plain old 20 mule team borax. great to keep insects out of the house too and great in the tub for inflammation. can also be taken internally.
Chrispy Hatley to poop out the critters. MAN YOU SHOULD SEE THEM. KILLS EM ON CONTACT!!!! 1/8 tsp mixed with a glass of distilled water. Check out some of Hulda Clark's videos to see what I'm talking about. (I've seen more though). We all have them. LOL!!!! One time I forgot the ratio and did a heaping tsp with a glass.......thought it tasted a bit strong??? That's when a bunch of them came out and I only drank 1/2 the glass. Let me know if you try it. You can also do honey with turpentine. (I bought mine from Diamond Forest or is it Forest Diamond?, because I wasn't too sure about buying it at the hardware store. The ratio is 1 part turp (which is only pine sap) to 3 parts honey. I blend it by the jar. DO NOT, I REPEAT, take more than 2 tsp/day. You should only take one, but it tastes soooo good, I one time took 3 tsp. All that happened was I vomited out the water. Any questions, feel free to write.
This Chrispy critter has been chewin on your words all night long! I cannot determine if that's a dare, or a proposal?!... LOL!! You're quite the caution ain't ya?? Hmmm, can't all that outta my thought's, reckon I need a "lab-partner"or "guide" for such adventure's...................... Thank's for that! ;^)) Many questions, feel free as well.
Chrispy Hatley LOL!!! Start with the borax. You'll find it in the laundry aisle. It's about $4.00/box. REMEMBER, just 1/8th tsp. with DISTILLED WATER. IT'S GOT TO BE DISTILLED. Let me know!!! Also, did you watch any of Hulda Clark's videos? Check out those critters. Her technique is different and way more expensive. Mine works better and is less expensive.
Without a flux most of your Gold will actually evaporate away. Also borax will make the Gold purer by removing many impurities. They must sell their buttons at a local market for the best price, because a good refiner would take the gold straight from the pan and pay you according to the values in it, minus the refining fee..
No, gold does not evaporate. If you weld steel it does not evaporate. Gold is a metal you would have to heat it to its boiling temperature and then use a high vacuum pressure to "evaporate" it.
Gold will boil and evaporate at 5,370 deg F, though there is no risk on a charcoal fire if you use an oxygen/acetylene torch, which can exceed 6,000 deg F you can evaporate gold.
Obsolete would indicate that mercury is no longer a viable method, redundant indicates that a better method makes using mercury unnecessary. You can still use mercury, therefore it is redundant, not obsolete. A computer that is so old it doesn't run modern software is obsolete. Having a faster computer makes having a slower one redundant. Besides, it's really just a difference between british and american colloquial english.
I don't think they are trying to sell borax, which is plentiful and cheap ($2 or $3 a lb at most). This process only uses a couple of ounces for what looks like a fair amount of ore concentrate. In this case the borax is just being used as a flux -- it is used in this role in blacksmithing for making forge welds (and works well). Borax is also a popular home cleaning agent. I don't think it is at all dangerous as long as you don't eat it -- unlike Hg which is just nasty stuff in any form. :)
This method seems simple, charming, and primitive. Negative comments about marketing? Anything is better than Mercury Poisoning. Maybe if the poisoning was happening in some other places, like where the industrialists live and raise their families, or whoever pulls the strings of government officials that turn a blind eye or hungrily sit back and watch the devastation unfold. What is the objective? Its not like they actually handed a loaded gun to a child and told them to go play. Its worse!
I think we are moving in the right direction but more research is required.Please continue to help pave the way for a mercury free mining environment. Thumbs up but I do have some questions.
Providing that proper procedures are used, Mercury is both safe and environmentally friendly... In fact Mercury will remove any natural or transient Mercury is comes across, thus increasing your Mercury supply...
There was never a need to use borax in any part of this video, it will not get you "more gold" you will actually have less in weight when you smelt it with borax flux however the gold will be purer than using mercury.
$1,600+ per ounce - it's a living. I panned in the Rockies for a short time when it was cheaper; ice cold hands and feet, aching back and sore arms for about the same wage as any unskilled labor job, but without the boss and no coworkers backstabbing for a dime. Knew a person who sold 1/4 gram viles in the bars for 10X the going rate - to misplaced husbands who would use it to prop their alibis of where they'd been, lmao.
1.Health and safety first for all the miners. 2.Health and safety.first for mankind and humankind. 3.Health and safety first for our environment. 4.Health and safety first for the Flora and fauna. 5.Health and safety first for our planet earth NOW. 6.Create the wealth and share it too. 7.Enjoy the fruit of your labour.
so the round barrel rotates, its mixing the borax and the gold bearing materials together, when you run it across the felt carpet and it leaves the gold and other metals behind, the carpet is washed off, then they pan the material to get the gold. did i understand the process correctly? at no time was mercury used in this process correct?
I didn't really like using it but I have used mercury and nitric acid....Some of the mercury I have used was actually dredged up out of placer streams. Nice little reward at times being as the mercury was sitting in the creek for who knows how many years just collecting gold until I found it back in the 80's. Damn I wonder how much it would be worth today???? I would like a safer method of separating gold though. The borax thing seems to long and drug out.
Using Borax can reduce the melting temperature required to make the gold pool together. This is true with forging steel as well...if you want the metal to melt and adhere to itself easier...requiring less time and less fuel from the blow torch.
Borox is used to remove fluoride storied in the bodies i heard, but very very very small amounts used I'm talking 1/4 tablespoon through a day mixed in water. Borox is not the same as Boric Acid.
Peter Appel is a "borax expert" not a mining expert. People use the borax as a flux when smelting. Miners use mercury to chemically attract the gold durning the mining process sluicing or panning. Then the mercury is burnt off and then they smelt the gold. I have a retort that I use to collect the mercury gold I find (old mine from the 1800s) then I save the mercury. Finally I use borax as a flux when I smelt the sponge gold into a dore button. The title of this video is "Gold extraction with BORAX" yet it is very clear that they have already extracted the gold by slucing and panning. Then they add borax when they "cook" the gold. Also this is not pure gold it probably has some silver and other trace metals in it as well. This guy is selling borax.
Borax lowers the melting point of gold. Normally, gold melts at over 1000C. The heating used by these miners is not that high. Therefore, without the Borax they would not be able to get the gold to melt completely.
Wow.! awesome...will this borax method work for pgms as well? I have platinum, gold, rhodium,palladium, and iridium. It's already milled to 500 mesh and I have 8 tons already milled. 100 lbs is processed and ready for the fire?
Blacksmith supply, most hardware stores that supply farriers and smiths, some feedstores also - not sure of the purity of borax 'soap' sold in the laundry aisle but probably worth checking it out.
well i guess this skill would be good if i was planing on moving back to a forest of some kind. come to think of it, can this set up be done in regular neighborhoods with city dirt? the sun shines every where u know...
Borax is fairly benign, and also very cheap - a 32oz box costs $4. The only precaution you need to take when handling borax dry is to just use gloves. It is used as a detergent, and it will dry your skin. Among other uses, borax has been safely used to preserve eggs for fishing for decades. It is also used in cosmetics. Borax is an incredibly useful material for both home and commercial applications. Maybe you should educate yourself and look at the Wikipedia page for borax.
I exfoliate with borax in my shower almost everyday 😃 Then I apply Vaseline right after. Leaves skin feeling baby smooth all day 😃 It’s also anti fungal
the interesting information,here, for me, would be: looking at the nugget he obtained (looks clos to 1oz) how many hours of work and how much stone extracted and ground to dust??
I will keep my setup 99% recovery. Very Very portable for working the arid desert where the only H2O is hundreds of feet straight down. I can move on in mere minutes if I feel threatened. Equipment is minimal low budget easily replaced and repaired without attracting anyone. I process late at night by flash light. I don.t need help and my dogs keep watch. I pull into camp grounds in the daytime and sleep some times if I need a break, And I stay out of the bars!!
To those that have stated Mercury comes from nature.....................................When in nature, it is in a different form. For mercury to be in used in thermometers, or gold separation, Cinebar ore (The ore that mercury is derived from) must be altered.
uranium also exists naturally. And even plutonium must have existed million years ago like every other element. But would you pave your Garage with Uranium plates ;) ?
Wonderful Video. I have a question. What material comes into the gold process to separate? How to separate the gold from Arsenic? I have over 1000 tons of arsenic with gold content!!! I am happy if someone is in the position to help me out! Thank you.
Using Borax as shown will only remove "oxidized" impurities. It will not "refine" gold to a pure state by removing alloyed metals mixed with the gold. Borax or boric acid will both produce the same results.
