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Gold VS Steel Nibs - Is It Worth The Upgrade? 

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Exploring how nib material affects writing experience, along with debunking common myths about smoothness and flexibility
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Pilot Custom 823 - amzn.to/3UcmEGL
Lamy 2000 - amzn.to/3Jx4NW5
Wing Sung 630 - amzn.to/3PWTs4S
Lamy CP1 - amzn.to/3U8dgF0
Lamy Gold Nib - amzn.to/3JcJVDb
Waterman Serenity Blue - amzn.to/4cPj3Xu
Clairefontaine Triomphe Paper - amzn.to/3JdxuXO
00:00 Intro
00:26 All Gold Nibs Provide More Flex?
02:28 Preparing Writing Sample
03:54 Writing Sample
06:10 Gold VS Steel
07:18 Closing Thoughts

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31 июл 2024

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@chi-towncalifornia5916
@chi-towncalifornia5916 3 месяца назад
Great presentation! The only gold nib I’ve tried is in my medium nib Pilot Elite 95S, so I’m not really in a position to say much about gold nibs when compared with one another. I can, however, say that as far as feel is concerned nibs can be highly dependent on QC, tuning, nib size, paper texture and ink lubrication. No two otherwise identical nibs are always exactly alike in how they feel and write. I’d take a well tuned steel nib over an improperly tuned gold nib. Flex nibs are certainly nice to have, but otherwise, the risk of damaging or misaligning the nib outweighs the novelty factor for myself.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thank you, and I completely agree! Also great first gold nib, the medium on my E95S is among my favorites.
@gilliebrand
@gilliebrand 3 месяца назад
Very helpful, thanks for sharing.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 2 месяца назад
Definitely worth getting Lamy gold tipped nibs. I put them on my Lamy Idios. That’s what Lamy should have done in the first place. In Australia 🇦🇺 Lamy charged AUD $ 300 for that fountain pen with a steel nib and they didn’t sell. I bought 2 for $60 each in the end. Gold tipped nibs are much nicer to write with- much softer. Get a good quality pen like a Diplomat with a gold nib. Sublime.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 2 месяца назад
I didn't realize the Idios can take a safari styled nib, or did you find a gold tipped idios/aion style replacment? I agree that in general gold nibs will feel softer, but I also don't know if that is universally desired. I know there are times when I prefer having a stiffer nib (for example, taking quick notes on the go).
@vwood2
@vwood2 3 месяца назад
Great demo! Thanks. I have both gold and stainless steel nibs - I honestly can’t say the gold nibs are not better the steel. For me, the grind and polishing have much more influence on the writing experience, than whether it’s gold. So I hope folks don’t feel left out just because don’t have gold nib pens. You make a great point about all nibs being composite metals, with no standards on how much gold content is actually present. If there’s a difference, it’s very subtle, and many people (me included) can’t feel one at all. The one exception was a vintage Pelican that I tried. Its gold nib was very flexible, but it was worlds apart from gold nibs today.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I actually mis-spoke. Gold content is the only thing that is reported on the nib (aka 14k, 18k, 21k). The other materials aren’t really standardized from brand to brand. I think the differences are pretty subtle (especially for people just starting out in the hobby) and in some cases people may actually prefer using stainless steel
@eliali6484
@eliali6484 3 месяца назад
Thank you! Very useful ❤
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@khk5723
@khk5723 3 месяца назад
Pilot has excellent nibs, if not the best out of the box. Now the holy grail nib is the one that you grind it yourself and perfectly suits your writing, even a custom steel nib can become your edc.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
I agree, in my experience Pilot nibs have been the most consistent and smooth out of the box. And if you hone the craft of nib tuning/alterations, you can make your ideal grind with many pens🙌
@Flexperiments
@Flexperiments 3 месяца назад
Great video! One of the advantages of gold is the corrosion resitance. I personally prefer steel since I avoid corrosive inks
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
That is a very good point. Pitting is pretty common on steel nibs, especially vintage ones.
@jamespicht1128
@jamespicht1128 3 месяца назад
Most of my nibs are gold, but I have three pens with steel nibs that I consider excellent, and one, a Diplomat Aero, is superb. It’s one of my five favorite pens. It’s in a medium cursive italic grind and is wonderfully smooth; flex isn’t an issue. I haven’t tried that pen with a gold nib, but I strongly doubt that it would be worth it to me. I’ll admit that I’ve bought most of my pens with an eye to the aesthetics rather than the writing quality, they only came with gold nibs, and those nibs were part of their aesthetic appeal. All have performed admirably as writers, but if I were buying a pen just for the writing experience, I’d go with a high-quality steel nib. And I much prefer to get line variation from the nib grind rather than from flex. I have a couple of vintage pens (Conway Stewart and Omas) with extremely flexible gold nibs, and a modern Pilot with a gold FA nib that’s also pretty flexible, but I find that a fussier approach to line variation than nib grind. I almost never use those pens.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Sounds like a great collection, what nib size do you have on your Aero? I enjoy the bounce of many gold nibs, but realize it’s not for everyone and personally I am not always looking for that writing experience either.
@Volkmannx
@Volkmannx 3 месяца назад
Interesting, thank you!
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@oscarcalva2189
@oscarcalva2189 2 месяца назад
For a more appropriate comparison, compare a pilot steel nib vs a pilot gold nib. Or a Pelikan steel nib vs a Pelikan gold nib, to really see the diference. Lamy swappable gold nibs are not the best ones.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 2 месяца назад
I was trying to keep as many variables the same. So I picked 2 pens that feel the same in the hand, have the same ink, and the nibs have the same geometry but different chemical compositions. Lamy gold nibs aren’t necessarily my favorite, but trying to do this experiment with another brand wouldn’t be as close of a comparison.
@ClearMind-1752
@ClearMind-1752 3 месяца назад
Good video, thanks. You got my sub since some time. I prefer a nib that is not too smooth and certainly not too flexible. I then feel like I have less control over my writing. When it comes to Lamy, I prefer the black coated steel nibs. However, one should not forget that the different types of paper on which one writes also produce different impressions. Greetings from Belgium.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thank you for subscribing! Based on your description, you may enjoy Sailor nibs. I find them to be quite stiff and have a moderate amount of feedback (far more than Lamy or Pilot).
@ClearMind-1752
@ClearMind-1752 3 месяца назад
@@fortheloveofpens Thank you for your advice. I'll definitely give it a try.
@kan-zee
@kan-zee 3 месяца назад
I tried a few gold nibs ....didn't like them...soft and got a little paranoid, bout damaging them ....would of cost a bundle , just to get the nib repaired..and even more to replace a gold nib but with a steel nib....more relaxing and easy to replace nibs. They write similar...good enough for me.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
The differences can be pretty subtle, I enjoy steel nibs as more of a workhouse.
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 3 месяца назад
Yet the Pilot E95 is a stiff gold nib. Smooth but no flex.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
@@luigig6256 it has good bounce but not much flex
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 3 месяца назад
@@fortheloveofpens mine is a fine, perhaps that is why I class it as a stiff nib. I avoid pushing any nib. I think that the vintage nibs or true flex live the yoga but modern gild nibs not so much. Still, the E95 is one of my favourite pens.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
@@luigig6256 I have a vintage elite with a fine nib, and that one is very stiff. Haven’t directly compared the stiffness with the modern E95s
@bkbk1184
@bkbk1184 3 месяца назад
Is the 630 still your favorite steel nib?
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
At the moment, yes. Though I can’t speak for how they are unit-to-unit.
@bkbk1184
@bkbk1184 3 месяца назад
@@fortheloveofpens Thank you. Any other favorite pens you could point me towards? Looking to jump start my collection. Thanks.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
@@bkbk1184 there are lots of great options out there. Do you have any in your collection so far?
@bkbk1184
@bkbk1184 3 месяца назад
@@fortheloveofpens Lamy 2k and Pilot Metro, and a few Asvines. Honestly, the Metro is my favorite.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
@@bkbk1184 sounds like a good variety, what do you like about the metro?
@hendrikmoons8218
@hendrikmoons8218 3 месяца назад
Helo there and thanks for the very educational revieuw/comparison. I just bought myselve as a guilty plesure a Lamy Dialog cc Medium 14k Au nib. She is a very wet, smooth writer and I tought her very tip too was gold, It isn't! It is made of Iridium, an insane hard metal, polished to nearly military personels shoeshining for parade. I love my new pen, her size, weight and balance are as if she were designed with my hand in mind.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Glad you like the Dialog CC, Lamy makes some of the best nibs I’ve come across! You are right about the tipping material. It gets welded onto the nib body and I believe both stainless steel and gold nibs use the same tipping material. Hence why it’s a myth that one is naturally smoother than the other.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom 3 месяца назад
Worth it? Yes! Speaking from experience, it is absolutely worth it; on a LAMY pen. Other pens from other brands? Maybe, maybe not. LAMY? Yes!
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Agreed! Though it may not be so cut and dry for everyone ☺️
@davidnygard1817
@davidnygard1817 3 месяца назад
My Lamy Imporium runs circles around every other Lamy pen I have -- including my 2000. I just have never been able to tame that gorgeous 2000. It must be the way I write.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
@@davidnygard1817 the standard Lamy gold nibs have round tipping material, which is a very common style. The 2000 has either a stub (M-BB) or an architect (EF-F) grind, which has a learners curve and is much more dependent on writing angle / rotation.
@paulmchugh1430
@paulmchugh1430 3 месяца назад
I have found the differences between steel and gold nibs to be almost minimal. One of my favorite nibs is the Leonardo Elastic Steel nib made by Jowo. If they were available separately I would attach they to many other pens. As for gold nibs, there is no question about my admiration for Pilot nibs - so smooth and consistent.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
The differences can be very subtle and I think the degree of difference can be misleading (especially for new comers in the hobby). I may have to hunt down the elastic steel nib, haven’t tried one. Thanks!
@joaopicanco2180
@joaopicanco2180 3 месяца назад
Hi, could you clear my doubt? a F nib uses more ink than a M one?
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Medium nibs in general will put down thicker lines than Fine nibs, so Mediums will go through ink quicker. But, there also isn't much standardization on tipping size across brands. So a Medium from one company might write similar to a Fine from another.
@joaopicanco2180
@joaopicanco2180 3 месяца назад
@@fortheloveofpens ✍thank you.
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 3 месяца назад
I dig the video, but to demonstrate that gold doesn't mean flex, chosing a tiny supported nib vs a large steel nib, is kind of funny. And yeah, if the nib is soft, I do find gold more pleasing. Also yeah, it is important to remember the tipping material isn't gold. Sort of how fake diamonds shimmer more that real.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
Thanks! I more-so was trying to show nib design plays a major role in flexibility. The writing sample with the Lamy CP1 and 59 was designed to be more of an apples-to-apples comparison
@scriptkeeper8243
@scriptkeeper8243 3 месяца назад
Lamy's Safari line nibs are pretty good steel. If you're gonna go gold, get their 2k's. That's a "worth it" step up.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
I love the 2000, but wanted to do an apples to apples comparison in this video since the 2000 has a different nib design.
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 3 месяца назад
Not worth it on a Lamy.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
What gold nibs do you like?
@luigig6256
@luigig6256 3 месяца назад
Pilot (Justus, 823 are superb , the E95 is stiff but excellent). Montblanc, Aurora steel is more comfortable than my Two Lamy steels though the 2000 is quite good. The Dialog3 is disappointing. For starters.
@belphegor_dev
@belphegor_dev Месяц назад
​​@@luigig6256The material doesn't matter. Pens with excellent nib design and tuning will be excellent even if the nib isn't gold.
@ichirofakename
@ichirofakename 3 месяца назад
The only reason I have for buying gold is too much disposable income.
@fortheloveofpens
@fortheloveofpens 3 месяца назад
😂
@nommh
@nommh 3 месяца назад
I tend to buy vintage pens and they very often come with gold nibs. If they are old enough stainless steel was not what it is today, so they came in gold. I do prefer the slight bounce of gold nibs, have done since my mother gave me her Meisterstueck 32 when I was 16 or so. By far the smoothest nib I own is the one on my diplomat aero. Do I like it? No, it writes with the line variation of an ink roller and because I learned writing when nibs were semi-hooded I find huge nibs irritating. So which is the best nib? It is of course the one you love writing with the most.
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