GOLF + BRZ + GR YARIS BATTLE / Which is best? FWD, RWD or AWD 

Up the golf!

None of them

i30n hehe

Golf

the golf

I skipped to the end hoping to find just that.

@@matpolilegend Yeah, I was kinda hoping the same. I would love to see Luke set some times just to show how far off the pace Marty and Moog are.

I think that might require an awful lot of mods to match a pro driver in a stock car even on stock tyres.... If you sent him out on PS5s with a lightly modded car no normal human would get close...

@@neilbathe7752 but if all 3 were on the same tires, all with some good mods, it would be neat to see what a top tier driver could get out of each of them, especially on a tight technical track like that

Yeah click baited for sure.

Upvote people!

I don't think the power values are comparable which is why they didn't do that. Plus with the mods it's not a fair comparison. But would still be interesting

Thanks for the upvotes and im sure you have noticed in the latest pugbro v swift battle they did both power, weight and laptimes! Absolute legends!

Yeah he seems like a nice dude I'd love to see him more, maybe not as a permanent host, but when they'll make other videos on track/ comparing cars it would be pleasant to see him again

I totally agree with your comment mate✌️

agreed !!

He could be the MCM pseudo-stig, "psuedo" because he has a face and a voice 😂

They won't, they won't mix up anything. Stagnation

It was genuinely painful watching them try to control a snappy little car like the Elise without Heel/Toe, its near impossible to gear that thing into a corner without snap oversteer without it!!

Agreed. I love Marty and Moog but seriously, they gotta start learning that more

I need to learn it too. I want a sim rig to practice.

It's a very tough skill, kinda reminds me of when I first started learning manual... only more risky. My car probably doesn't help with it's setup...

@@PigeonLaughter01 You don't need a sim rig, just practice every day when you drive, braking to a stop, flip your heel over to touch the accelerator, and slowly progress to learning to modulate throttle with heel.

yeah from someone who professionally knows how to get the best of each platform, his insight was extremely good. im happy that i used a lot of his technique in my fwd golf track time at the Nurburgring when i used to live near there. at least i did THAT right! haha

I use the heel on the brake and toes on the accelerator, but unfortunately they're making our road less and less fun every day :(

@@CyberChrist I do the opposite, toe on the brake and blip the throttle with my heel / side of my foot. Interesting that there's different ways!

@@jama211 That's the orthodox way ^^ I use mine because my heel wasn't precise enough to get the revs needed, as the engine's a bit sluggish at low revs, as when initiating the blip, but then rages towards the limiter.

@@jama211 i keep my toe on the brake and use my ball or side of the foot to do it, i know some just fully use the side and not the ball. I think it depends on the car if the pedals are close enough

I learned to do it in my MX5 where the pedals were absolutely perfectly placed for it, but had to fit a custom made extended accelerator to my Clio as the pedals were ever so slightly too far apart to do it comfortably. As they stated in the video it's incredibly useful on track, but it also makes every trip to the shops feel like a rally stage 👌

And.. it's 50k.

That can also be a positive, as none of your mates will ask you to move anything.

Depends on how big is the furniture. Hatchbacks are surprisingly spacious after folding down the second row seats.

Get a trailer, sorted.

@@tkangwei i hauled a 3-person sofa with fold out bed in it in my mk2 golf once, hanging out the back a bit of course, but it made it! 2 years ago i hauled a 1200 pound generator/welder 300 miles when Omaha had a massive power outage for a week after massive storms and 100mph winds. (3 people and an engine hoist to put it in!) hatchbacks, and by literal "extension" estates/wagons, are the BEST form of a non-pickup/ute vehicle. more use, more space, better aerodynamics (proven) than sedan/coupes.

Yes! Don't put a car with all season against one with summer or 200 tw track tires. Pick one and go with it. I'm stuck on pilot sport all seasons for my daily now.

@@jameshaulenbeek5931Are the all season PS good? I was considering them for when I finally get a GR Corolla to replace the summer PS4 it comes with since it gets cold where I am for like 8 months out of the year

@@Roomsaver they're great tires, definitely worth it

60k AUD is not affordable lmao

@@Average.1JZ.Enjoyer fair one Id rather have that money in a property then in a car that could leave you stranded somewhere

£30,000-£35,000 not sure i would say that's affordable, guess it all depends on your salary

@@Average.1JZ.Enjoyer agreed, it is a lot to fork out, but they hold their resale value pretty well. Also, the amount of money you spend on buying a car, fixing it etc etc can start to add up. I completely appreciate that is half of the appeal with these cars for a lot of people, but I don't have the tools or experience to do this stuff myself, and to have something that is high tech, high performance and high fun in a turn key package, for me, is worth the premium. I have a $20k residual on my car, that that is a problem to be solved in 3 years :D

Who cares

@@mikenolzie7746 people that own one

Perhaps boost limiting from factory?

I don't have any issues on mine.

The cars aren't really comparable, the Golf is a heavy practical Hot Hatch, the Yaris is a mad Homologation spec of an eco town runner, and the BRZ is a entry level sports car. Making them compete would be like choosing between an Apple, Cheese and a Biscuit for which is the best snack. I mean, they're too different to have a fair comparison. What you would need is a car that has the same body shape, weight, gearbox, and engine with FWD, AWD, and RWD available to really see which is best and even then its gonna be personal preference and the Bias of the track, the FWD will be predictable but suffers from wheelspin, torque steer and understeer, the RWD will be faster on the straights and out of corners due to weight transfer but you need to be able to control that or you'll spin out and AWD will fast off the line and will offer no real surprises around the corners but will suffer at top end speed due to power having to be delivered to all 4 wheels meaning drivetrain loss is higher and depending on if the car favours front or back wheels it could still under or oversteer if pushed too hard. The Yaris would enjoy a tight technical circuit where its AWD system will come into its own, and it doesn't have to worry about top speed, the Golf would enjoy a good mixture of straights, long shallow turns and tight turns being able to do all of them and the RWD with enjoy long shallow turns, long straights and opportunities to put its weight on the back wheels.

The real story of MCM... is friendship

Better late than never my friend 👍

Time for an MCM marathon!!!

@@JasonThaiKennedy I think you could be right, but with nearly 700 videos I may be gone some time! 😬

@@cfbm125 exactly, doesn't that sound glorious!?

Whelp... Carlos' plans are set for the next few months.

I have a Fiesta ST200. A better car than the GTI when it comes to pure fun IMO Yes it's slower, and has a cheap interior, but way cheaper to maintain and to drive.

@@neovenom7187 completely agree, love the thing, amazing fun to drive indeed

In Australia the GT86 is about $20k AUD, 7th gen GTI there's a few between 15 and 20k but mostly in the mid 20s. Fiesta ST are mostly 30k+, but the previous gen can be had under 20k. Same with the Focus ST. Yaris GR are 47k+. Of those I would probably look for a good deal on a previous model Fiesta or Focus.

@@AfferbeckBeats crazy how different those prices are compared to those here in the Netherlands, I'd definitely not pay 30k for a 2nd hand fiesta, 11k was a good price though for a 6 year old MK7, but 30k? Nah, for 35k i could get a Focus RS mk3 here

And, AWD it's the most usable all year round

But most expensive to buy.

an extra 15 grand compared to the other 2

@@yeoj_ a new GTI is about the same as a GR Yaris.

…and also easily tuned