Good Game Design - Super Mario Maker 2: Building Better Creators 

I think the best thing about the game is just how much they push fairness when creating courses. In so many of the tutorial lessons in the dojo, they repeatedly bash you over the head with making stages that are fair first, difficult later. Feels like they recognised how much people get sick of seeing insane troll levels and, without just outright not allowing them to be made, communicated the idea of making levels fairly and how that can still be fun for people to play and make.

The community is my favorite part. Never have I seen such a healthy, wholesome, thriving community on the internet exist the way the mario maker community does. Most conversations involve playtesting and critiquing, or discussing unique discoveries and contraptions

Your like the only youtuber who says ‘ I prefer the making part of the game’. Props to you.

Super Mario Maker 1 already almost never got boring, and Super Mario Maker 2 just adds dozens of new things to work with. I really doubt I'm ever going to get tired of playing this game 😅

Hey Sno i love ya but where are the checkpoints

Another reason that the levels are WAY better because unlike SMM1 where levels IMMEDIATELY get thrown into the level pool upon upload, SMM2 levels enter a New Courses section where they can have a chance to enter the level pool by getting a like and being played. New Courses courses don't appear in the Endless Challenge.

It's truly amazing what gamers can truly make all because of their passion for the franchise. I'll probably never achieve that type of creativity, but I'm glad everyone is. Plus, seeing Super Mario Land Mario is surreal in this day and age.

The only problems I have with Mario Maker 2 is that some of the clear condition in Story Mode are not available in the course maker and the multiplayer is still laggy. I know Nintendo said they were going to add Friends Online but the game has been out for a month and we still don't have it yet. Regardless I enjoy this game. My favorite part is playing different levels because I see what people create and it gives me a reason to keep coming back and playing different levels. Its way better than it was in Mario Maker 1.

I got really excited to finally have the money to buy the game but didn't realize that i had to have Nintendo online to play other people's levels Which i guess makes sense but i'm still kinda salty about it, that's all i wanted it for. Ive been having fun in the creator though

Nah, I'm not addicted to Mario Maker 2. **Glances at my 200+ hours spent on it**

My favorite part is when you have a good idea and you make the level and then you go back through and tweak and decorate and put coins and tweak the level until perfection

I think my favourite part of creating levels is how easy it is to get them looking.... Decent... it is in MM2 vs MM1, thanks in part to scroll stop, which just helps encourage making levels.

The thing that I enjoy the most is making well designed traditional levels, that feel like they would fit right in to an actual Mario game

The boo feature is a good idea and all but it can also really screw over perfectly talented course makers. All it takes is for the first few people playing your levels to be complete Neanderthals that exit your stage as soon as they fail even once and give your stage a Boo and nobody's going to play your stage after that. Not unless you go around shoving your course ID in everyone's faces and even that's not a guarantee. I don't know how I can make my courses any easier without being patronizing and yet most people can't complete any of the courses I publish.

Snowman, you forgot to talk about the best level, minecraft; the way home

I try so excessively to get world records on this game too, it’s great for kids and game veterans.

I had a completely different experience from you, and it seems, a lot of streamers. Don't know why, I watch people play and they get good level after good level and it looks like a lot of fun, then I hop into endless mode and it's an unending marathon of levels designed under the principle of "If I force the player to die unavoidably a bunch of times, it'll make my level's difficulty rating higher".

The sequel was extremely well done, great video Snoman!

I wish I was playing this more often but ... I am dry on Ideas lol.

I love your calm style. Keep it up man

I remember when you made your first bullet chaser level in your SMW Romhack. Back before you privated all of your old videos. Good times.

Thanks for the series "good game design" while I'm not making games right now it will help me when I do

Love your videos! Unfortunately when I go in Endless mode I get LOTS of stinkers still but it's probably before they've been boo'd a fair amount (or was it just one course at a time.. there were some were I couldn't like or boo, maybe an option until something's been beaten) but yeah I hear you on creativity.. I thrive for it and have been building lots. Glad to hear you are addicted too!

"Course world seems to function properly now, so the top stages are always ones that everyone enjoys and rates highly" Whelp

I’ve been loving the Getting Over It levels. As long as each individual jump is easy it’s that perfect “tough but fair.”

I love making levels that are just so out of this world wacky. I've been working on a Galaga style shooter with upgrades, a level where Mario has to get tons of things to out weigh the titling platform, and an actually movie with Goombas and Koopa Troopas at war. It's so much fun. Also making levels and sharing them with friends only to ruin their lives is great.

I'm pretty including the heavy stones and Toad collection levels in story mode was a deliberate choice to act as a teaser for new features yet to come - or features that just weren't ready in time for release; those two stuck me as having the potential to be particularly bug-prone if thrown haphazardly into a level, and they seem to be making a definite point of preventing bugs and exploits this time around.

"Some levels need to be liked first", the words of a popular creator Edit: 8:30 not fun when your courses are not played

my favorite part of mario maker is messing around with the editor n finally built my first level ever yesterday since i didnt mess round with the editor in maker 1 but now after making my first level i became addicted to it now and also completing story mode too.

But have you played Bowser's Big Bean Burrito?

The best part is making a level and being sent praises or feedback, honestly. Although I hate that If you wanna make a hard level, and want to put checkpoints, you have to play the stage twice

My favourite part of super mario maker 2 is making courses, I like thinking of game designs and jotting some ideas.

You should definitely look at levelhead! It has a unique 'marketing' mechanic to filter out levels, and interesting mechanics within the game itself.

“deeply breaths” WHERE IS THE FROG

The most enjoyable part for me has been Multiplayer Versus, and I like making courses in docked mode more than handheld mode. Fight me!

I feel like the story mode of mario maker 2 is very underrated it teaches the player how to make good courses while also feeling like its own mario maker game and if nintendo wants to add more course parts as DLC i want it to come with more story mode.

What a fantastic game. Thanks for the great video about it!

You made another amazing review. You are by far the best in the business and you inspire me with my own channel. Keep it up!

I'm love with everything in this game. (Maybe to much speedruns levels but overall the amount of content is huge)

Unpopular opinion I miss the 100 Mario Challenge

My favourite thing about Mario Maker 2 is seeing what I can recreate and put a twist to. Such as remaking the Sunken Ghost Ship as a traditional airship level, or remaking the Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom series.

The best part, for me, is the themes! Oh how wonderfully thematic some of them feel. Gone are the days of "eh guess I'll add this" where every item was used. Now we have actual levels, with core design elements. Rubber Ross is an amazing example of this, with his levels he only has around 2-4 unique objects, ignoring blocks. "This level has icecycles, twisters and on/off" made for a far better level than the MM1 "the only theme is bad design"

I love all the amazing and creative level many people from around the world they have made.

I *love* online versus when it doesn’t spaz out on me. Making is also really fun! I enjoy going to the discord and criticizing, playing, and seeing cool new courses and ideas. I love the game so much!!

The sideways thwomp was my third favorite new addition.

*overall lack of bad stages I've come across* _chuckles in levels with a million bowsers and items that you find in online multiplayer_

If anyone here still plays Mario Maker 1 because they can’t afford 2 or a Switch yet, please check out levels by a user named Bourgyman. He has moved on to the sequel as well and is currently creating great new levels, but he has left behind some pretty genius and entertaining ones in the original. Make sure to download them and enjoy before the online service gets cut for Wii U!

1:30 having received a "first clear" award from an expert endless level, I can confirm you're wrong on this.

I love these videos, I love all your videos! Another great one Sno! -Gr8t

I follow a youtuber who plays lots of mario maker and I noticed that he mostly came accross troll levels on MM1, and on MM2 the maps often seem well made and fun

The Mario Maker videos on Alpharad Plus are definitely my fav part of this game

I hope it does have legs for years, because that's how long it's going to take me to finally make a decent stage

i got the game when i came out and over a year later i JUST realized that the claws have a different face when holding something

I don't own a switch nor a Wiiu. But as a kid I spend like.. Most of my time playing Mario. Both on the NES and the all-stars version on the SNES. On the N64 I played a lot of Mario aswell. Lately I've found myself just binging on SMM 1 and 2 streams and videos. I really enjoy watching the pros play the Super Expert Levels.

I love how they fixed the enemy spam problem with the dry bones shell

I like that it's on the switch, but I still wish some costumes were included in the game. When I finally get a mario maker game, I suppose I could make do... I think I'll like the music stages. also the game has a good visual style and fun to watch. And the story mode sounds amusing.

Friends : Why do you keep playing Mario Maker 2 and not getting bored? Me : It's actually *surprisingly simple*

I can't with Lexie "OOoh yeah He's addicted"

Mario Maker was bound to get a port, but we got even more. We got a full fledged sequel. I remember watching Sno’s first Mario Maker video time and time again, always hoping for that sequel. Now the slogan means more than ever. Truly, anyone can make it, everyone can play it! #MarioMakerBois

My favorite thing about Mario maker 2 is, clear conditions, and challenging levels.

I'm actually planning on making my own game by making stages and there going to be things you see in a actual game like my version of the first world will be peaceful plains

Great video as per usual man, always a pleasure to see you in my sub-box.

This makes me want to go get it. Kudos

Interesting and refreshing perspective. I've heard others say the overall level quality sucks

Can’t wait until u reach 200k!

Watching it on RU-vid because I like the variety of levels! Thank You for asking! :D!

I absolutely love building, but I can never think of good ideas and it gets a little frustrating at times, but I keep trying

I like that I can make levels without my hands being cramped to hell from holding the gamepad or the stylus. That alone burned my creative drive out of my head with the original Mario Maker. In this one I actually took on a mini-project of making a 12 course game that ranges from Easy to Hard and it's been a lot of fun!

I love this game so much.. Both playing and making levels that are fun 🍄🏎👻

I don't have a Switch, but one of the aspects of this game I saw someone like is the fact people give you stars

9:10 probably the only level that i couldn't beat yet left a heart on anyway on purpose

I love creating castle and airship levels and boss fights.

0:42 The level playing in the backround is Hot Sponge, by ryukahr.

But what about Zelda 2 Maker?

1-1 with twist is the best level i have ever seen

You know you're addicted to SMM2 when your favorites are all Super Expert.

My favorite part of the game is how the many enemies interact with each other, it blew my mind

No one: Panga when he add tags to a level: sTAnDaRd

Ahh, back when people actually made good levels. And the popular tab had actually some good levels and not the same rehashed mechanics and themes

you...you gav ceave a shoutout...thank you :) EDIT: IMO the most underrated addition is rotating piranha plants (AKA Piranha plants sticking to solid surfaces)

One thing I really wish mario maker 2 had was advanced level editing options. There are so many cool level ideas I've had that were completely ruined by the default game options. Like being able to change whether a specific enemy respawns off screen or an enemy's movement speed.

The best part about Mario Maker is being able to make a recreation of Desert Bus in it

2 years later and they ended support for updates. RIP

I can't believe Nintendo still hasn't put the stone in the game, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY IN THE GAME!

I’m currently making a course series with likes averaging around 10-30ish, but I have one specific course that has gotten more than 160 No Idea how that Happened, but I’m thankful Regardless

I can respect many of the changes made to remove glitches or particular types of inputs (no midairs) that had legitimate uses but automatically barred a lot of people from trying. But I wish they had applied that kind of thought throughout, so that it was still possible to download courses to understand how they work, and to add the ability to watch ghosts of the upload clear and world record, to demystify the deliberately opaque. Having written those out, I can see how Nintendo's recommendation algorithm changes should be filtering out the levels where those features would be most useful, but even in that case, not being able to change or even just remove a vote feels bad.

This video was great! I hope that one day I’ll have the creative mind to make an insanely original Mario level

Oh you have to play dreams! You're going to love it!

I think the only things that kinda bother me in Mario Maker 2 is the lack of visual stuff you could add (sometimes) and that the game presets certain stuff for you (examples: low gravity, upside-down levels, etc.) and I wish people would be able to toggle that on or off. An option to set your own amount of lives for Endless Challenges would also be useful (it'd cap at 50 or 100) Apart from that SMM2 is miles better than the prequel

Creating is the game's strongest aspect for me. In my opinion, every game should have a creation tool like Mario Maker's. If a puzzle heavy series like Zelda or a more action based game like Sonic had a level making tool, the results would be amazing.

Snowman, please do "Alto Adventure" for "Good Game Design", it's a game for the Smartphones but gosh, is well-made.

Imagine having a MM2 Favorite Stages list in your video without mentioning "minecraft; the way home" by Alex the 9 😂

one screen puzzlers. Cant get enough of them. You need to fully understand entire mechanics and use every mario muscle.

I miss the mystery and weird mushrooms and loved 100 Mario more than endless but making is more fun now

8:35 lol that made it look like the axe killed you

I love Mario maker 2 so much but when I’m making stuff I just think of a bunch of ideas and can’t choose which one to make. Afterwards, I just go back to playing levels instead because I don’t know what to make.

Lmao the “1-1 but with a twist” is a by a youtuber named sunny lmao

I feel like there are 3 main things that I would change with this game: 1) Multiplayer, for obvious reasons 2) Add a troll tag, as those levels are often a favorite for some people 3) There isn't a 3rd, this is a great game

My favourite thing about smm2? Multiplayer Well actually I have won almost all the games up to this point...

Hey snowman, I'm a big fan of the series and you got me into game design. I think that you should take a look at Zero Ranger on steam. It's twelve dollars and its a great indie title that deserves more recognition than it gets.