Nah nah nah, bruh, if uncle ruckus was in charge, it’d be an all white cast. This is what happens if Riley was in charge, Riley is an idiot and doesn’t know better. Huey would probably hate him forever for that.
The Evanses DID leave the projects in the series finale. Wilona got a huge raise, so she and Penny moved to a duplex; Keith returned to football, Thelma was expecting their first child and they and Florida moved to a duplex; college student Michael moved to a dorm; J.J. sold a comic book character and moved to a bachelor pad, and gave Thelma and Keith the honeymoon they missed. The episode ended with Florida and Wilona learning they'll be living in the same duplex--and hugging each other.
I think it's supposed to be their grandkids. Either way, this show is not needed. I think they're going for Boondocks, but if the trailer is this insulting, they've missed the mark.
Conspiracy Theory Time: This wasn't originally a Good Times reboot, it was something completely original that they tacked the name onto in the hopes that it would sell or whatever.
They should've kept the Good Times name out of their effin' mouths out of respect for the memory of the great Mike Evans. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️ Sidenote: 😒😏 to Seth and Steph. I usually have love for them, but Hell to the NAW!!!! 😭
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 ,It is true. James Amos did say he got *TIRED* of the stereotypes Good Times perpetuated. He may have changed that in later interviews, but, initially, he fought with the writers to change both his character and the character JJ -- and true, to also stop focusing so hard on the antics of JJ. He said as much: _Their idea of what a Black family would be and what a Black father would be was totally different from mine, and mine was steeped in reality_ - Esther Rolle left after the fourth season *for the same reason* - I can remember my grandmother yelling at my aunt to turn the channel because she did not want to sit there and watch Black People portrayed like that -- that is a first-hand account. - My grandmother could not bear to watch the "defeat" week after week, JJ's buffoonery and slackery as a representation of "blackness," and the fact that though there was a father in the household that father was written as a "failure." - My grandmother never wore her "blackness" as a badge or worshipped it as her religion, but she was a person, a human being, who knew who and what she was - "I am never going to just sit down by the side of road!" "WE are so much better than that, capable of so much more than that!" - I guess she thought too many of US would take that as OUR reality....
@@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 , my grandmother never got a chance to see the Cosby's, but I am sure that would have been a show she had not issues with. - She kind of had a disdain for television, period, to be honest. Her era, really, was radio programs. - She tolerated The Jefferson's (Sherman Hemsley's character tended to irritate her), and Sanford and Son was not allowed (she did not care very much for the premise of the show, and she knew of Redd Foxx from his "raunchy" club reputation). - Shows I can recall she actually watched -- without hearing a "turn!" -- were, Mod Squad, The Rookies, Star Trek, Julia, and Room 222 (this show was really hit or miss, though...). - - - There were a few other shows she would watch with no problem. The shows I named were shows that actually had "positive" black representation -- and way back then. - We have devolved....
It’s like some old/out of touch Netflix execs did a line and as soon as they raised their heads from the table they saw the black janitor and asked him what his favorite show was lol.
And that show was already an animated homage to good times, just told from the perspective of “ bookman “ instead. They even had the actress who played Wilona voice one of the main characters on the PJ’s
John Amos didn't quit. He was fired. He would always threaten to beat up the writers because they would always write the scripts laden with stereotypes. John and Esther felt that JJ's character was too buffoonish. Good Times was Esther and John's show. It suffered from the same thing Family Matters suffered from with the Urkel character. Snapple fact: Originally, Norman Lear pushed for Good Times to be about a single mother raising a family. Esther Rolle refused to do the show unless they casted a husband for her.
Studios have been refusing to greenlight originals recently, and this feels like one of those shows that changed it's name just to get picked by a studio
Beau is Afraid Skinamarink Don't look up Swiss Arny Man 3000 Years of Longing Everything Everywhere all at Once Beef Asteroid City Spaceman JoJo Rabbit Mandy Saltburn Infinity Pool Joker Just off the top of my head. We really need to stop this whole HOLLYWOOD DOESN'T PUT OUT ORIGINAL MOVIES lie. Fact is PEOPLE DONT SUPPORT ORIGINAL MOVIES than complain about there being no original movies.
That's not true. Most black entertainment is based off of culture stereotypes. Which means they are true but over exaggerated. Most of the problems were based on stereotypes and characters as well but it's also about culture and real things as well
John Amos and Ester Rolle were actually fired from the show. He and Ester Rolle did an interview in Ebony or Jet (I forget which one) They were asked if the show(i.e. J.J) was stereotypical and they conceded that it was! Also as stereotypical as the show was, it could have been worse! The cast members constantly struggled with some of the worst stereotypes. Originally, the kids weren't supposed to have a father, Thelma had no lines or character development at all aside from being the overly sexualized black teenage girl , and none of the kids were gonna graduate high school. Ester and John constantly fought against this. Unfortunately, this also gets you the label of being difficult. Now if the new show wants to satirize how far the showrunners WANTED to go in portraying a black family on TV, then that would be something interesting!
American Fiction wasn’t out for a year and we already got that School of Magical Black People and this. Watching this trailer was me looking like Jeffrey Wright in the film.
@@LavaLot-zi5us Nothing is wrong with the movie, mate. It's just that the movie isn't even a year old, and the things that the movie criticized are being peddled loudly...
She calls her self a Afro-latina, l wonder why she couldn't do a show about latino stereotype. It could be about the cartels, drugs, kid napping, potato picking, illegal crossing the border, etc. l bet you wouldn't dare because Latinos wouldn't allow it. You know why, because it's not FUNNY!!!!!
This is not "Good Times" this is "Bad Times." I'm surprised that this abomination is being made instead of bringing back the Boondocks. Also, Seth did make an animated all in the family. It's American Dad.
Even without the Good Times name attached, this show looks bad and disrespectful. This is the perfect time for The Boondocks to come back (despite the revival unfortunately got canceled).
Honestly with how much is going on right now when it comes to TV shows and video games especially, black people are more the ones being more disrespectful to themselves. And that's coming from one black man that's been against blm since 2020.
Boondocks seems to be in a weird position because I've seen new merch with the new art style (Where it looks like everyone is a Capcom character but I'm for that) but the show still isn't going to happen?
This trailer feels like a fictional trailer inside of a "The Boondock's" episode. I can see Granddad and Riely getting excited watching this trailer. Netflix is starting with a new pattern. First, they show Mea Culpa on us, now Good Times.
FLASH FACT: Happy Days abandoned their initial camera format, and switched to a live studio audience, and implimented catch phrases on their show because of the reactions Jimmie Walker was getting on Good Times.
@@charminglady2011 True. If you watch episodes of Happy Days, it seems like everybody had a catchphrase, that all came from Jimmie Walker's "Dy-No-Mite!" They went live in front of a studio audience mostly to get the kind of reactions to Fonzie that JJ was getting on Good Times.
And that explains it and Fonzie being the main focus. Thus while the Jumping the Shark trope name was coined from Happy Days, Good Times was the original founder of the trope with J.J
@@SuperWolseyI would say that "Jumping the Shark" originated even before television with the Three Stooges. It just didn't have a name attached to it yet until The Fonz.
I wasn't born when Good Times was released but I did catch it on rereuns through Antenna TV and it was one of my favorites Also seeing Korey, Martin, and Billy sunging the theme song was great way to start the day
Dude.....the Jews wrote the original. I don't know who made this though. And maybe the trailer sucks on purpose and the real show is different,like the sonic movie?
You know it’s funny how Martin mentioned that it’s shows like this that reminds you why we need The Boondocks back on television, because one of the creators of this reboot is Carl Jones, who worked on The Boondocks as a producer and writer, also did the Black Dynamite animated series, so that’s sad to hear. Maybe it could be just a bad trailer and the show might end up being good, but looking at what I saw, it looks more like Boondocks meets Family Guy than Good Times, right down to having a talking baby.
And just a few weeks ago in the DT podcast, Martin and Korey discuss it and they legit thought the project was dead because of how long it was in development. It almost seems the studio heard them talking about it and finally released it just to mess with them.
If everybody “hates watch” this show, they will get another season. ..The trailer is extremely offensive because as a black woman, I deal with racist experiences everyday. It may be more subtle things that are said or done, but I want to see black people in a better light than just the lazy, stereotypical experiences that makes us all look like we haven’t contributed in major ways to the world today. They could have easily changed the name and it would still be offensive, but it wouldn’t have disrespected the original show.
No one literally no one: Netflix: Hey boys and girls wanna Crappy ass animation remake of one of your Classic black TV set cones from the 70s? Everyone: AW HELL NO!!!!!! Netflix: well too bad We did it anyway.
I'm white. My parents were raised on these shows, I watched reruns, and we were dedicated fans of Family Matters and Fresh Prince. Those shows were responsible for strengthening race relations. But that aside, they were wholesome, funny, and moving. This drags that sentiment through the mud in the opposite direction. Nobody's happy, and there's even some more ...zealous people blaming whites in general over it. It's ragebait. All those black people working on it are watching the world burn from an ivory tower. They don't care about the well-being of their race.
I have great memories watching this show with my mom (reruns in the 90s). Not sure how most people feel about this update, but it feels kinda disrespectful 😢
This is the only way these people WANT to see us. That's why they get so uptight about seeing us in other roles. It's all about creating an image that makes them feel better about themselves.
In the documentary about Norman Lear, apparently he caught a lot of flack over the original Good Times not being a good representation. It even involved a sitdown with the Black Panthers. While the original show had its peak and decline in terms of quality, I think at least Lear wanted to make something worthwhile and relevant, and succeeded on some level. This show on the other hand... Yeah wow.
@@Exskullent Yeah no, you're full of shit and just making misinformation for no reason. He was the main asshole and that was confirmed by relatives of actors that had to deal with him on the show.
I didn't grow up in the 70s, but I grew up watching "Good Times", cause of my parents, and my grandpa always had TV Land (when it played old shows) playing. Now I couldn't connect to it, but I loved it! This "remake" is an insult!
@@mttylerdurden9 He also left the project early. His words were “For the record, I was involved with the Good Times animated series in the very VERY beginning but due to creative differences, I had to walk away. So I haven’t even seen one episode or script of this version of the show,”
As they should be. I have never seen anything so not only so stereotypical, but also completely diverts from what the original show was about in the first place. And Stephen Curry and that black woman being apart of this project just puts the nail on the coffin, because how do you feel comfortable being part of a project that basically says “Your people are nothing more than doing rappers, drug dealers, strippers, etc”
John Amos didn’t leave because Good Times was stereotypical. John Amos left because the show became MORE about JJ than the entire family. Additionally, while, yes, the stereotype was black folks being poor, the heart of the show was the family and they celebrated black culture. They didn’t poke unnecessary fun at it for the sake of white-comfort.
Exactly. Plus they drove home the fact that yes we live in the projects and surrounded by pimps, gangs, thieves, but we wont let that influence who we are. People claim Florida was uptight (which at times she was ms goody two shoes) but the point she drove home was we dont have to resort to criminality and abandon our morals to make it out
@@verdadsin8954 No, they didn't leave. They got fired! They both were interviewed for either Ebony or Jet(I forget which). They were asked whether some things were negative stereotypes(i.e. J.J) they conceded that, yes some things were. They clean it up now, but at the time, it was public knowledge that they were fired. Although they did bring back Florida Evans later.
@@verdadsin8954 Esther didn’t leave. She was there till the show ended. There was a short departure after Florida married Carl. Idk why. But, she was there.
I saw the trailer today and I'm thinking who in the hell asked for this?! That Florida Evans damn damn damn damn meme fits most of our reactions perfectly.
I had the same mindset as Martin, and asked why not just make an animated version of All in The Family. I can definitely see Seth making that. Although the line from the intro that Archie sings “girls were girls and men were men” would have people pointlessly triggered. Honestly, surprised he didn’t make an animated version of The Fact of Life. Especially since Seth apparently had a thing for Ms. Garrett.
Seth technically already made an animated version of All in the Family. It's called "American Dad", at least when it first came out lol. The show became it's own thing tho
He did make an animated All in the family he just named it Family Guy, which hasn't been good in years, American Dad is practically Father Knows Best with CIA and Hollywood Squares.
I didn't even know this joint existed until now. This is wild. If this was anything else, it probably still wouldn't have slid lol, but they fact that they tied "Good Times" to it is irredeemable.
They actually did get out of the projects at the end of Good Times. Willona got a raise and she and Penny moved into a duplex; Keith's leg healed up and he was training with the Chicago Bears as a free agent, Thelma was expecting her first child and she and Keith asked Florida to live with them (they bought an apartment in the same duplex that Willona was moving to), Michael chose to stay in the dorm and J.J. became a comic book artist and sold a character based on Thelma; he got an advance and bought a bachelor pad and gave Thelma and Keith the honeymoon they missed. EDIT: Whoops! Meant to say "projects". 😅
Woke? Good times was always woke...It was about the black working class. So if you complain about that , you're missing the point. The show is wack cuz they miss the original point and got corny white humor
Hollywood: Oh the African American community is tired of all the slave movies and struggle movies we pump out? Fine. We'll start making comedy shows about the struggle and how hard it is to be black and just harp that comedy down everyone's throats.
I saw this and said the same thing. Im all about showing the vast black experience, hell I grew up in Sumner housing projects. But fuck this. And honestly this shit doesnt seem like its actually made for black people from the trailer and it being made by Seth proves it.
What do you mean if Seth was involved it would have actually been written we'll he clearly just a producer how much we betting he has a deal to get a movie or something with them but this was part of it
@mttylerdurden9 You said "just" the executive producer as if that's a small thing. Executive producers greenlight the project being made. They provide they funds, dictate the budget, approve the script, negotiate contracts, and communicate with investors and studios. They're the money and final say for the whole thing. Seth isn't behind the camera or the drawing board, but he's definitely calling the shots, especially since Norman Lear was nearing the end of his life (RIP).
I've never been hurt by a trailer before. This takes something beloved and relatable, and turns it into a mockery bathed in degradation. It actually made me cry.
I saw imagines and had no idea this was supposed to be a remake. I grew up watching this show on dvd because it was my grandmother's favorite show, so it holds a special place in my heart. After watching the trail, I'm just at a loss for words.
Omg… I just cannot anymore with Hollywood, the animation industry, everything. They have to ruin everything, from old shows, old movies, old cartoons, EVERYTHING
I don't get the laser focus on the title- the title isn't really the issue. The issue is that Seth Macfarlane should of been the LAST person to write/make anything with POC. His current running shows have more racist jokes than the races themselves. If you were gonna make a silly comedy of black characters, why not a tasteful one written by an actual black person? Seth isn't a creative, smart, or structured writer. Especially around POCs!
Seth didn't write nor make this show.hes just an executive producer.This was made by 2 black show runners. Seth is busy making actual funny stuff like TED and Orville.
