Saying ‘ enhypen how you let rookie groups outdo you ‘ is crazy bcz enhypen were also rookies at the time of that encore, they improve a lot and you can’t compare enhypen rappers/ dancers to zb1s best vocalist it would be fair to use a recent encore and you would see how good they actually are and also add the part were the VOCALIST sings like you did for zb1, you literally cut heeseung and only added the members (who at the time) were not vocalists… so much for being unbiased.
@@Vivi.undercover05 this video is not biased.. MARK of NCT is also a rapper but he got singing parts in 90's Love & he forgot the lyrics.... if your idol made mistakes so be it, but constant mistake without improving is the problem
Exactly? They were rookies at the time of that encore, zerobaseone are also rookies, and yet you can clearly see who had better vocals. Enhypen definetly improved though!
Same fans that always brag about how their faves sound like studio ver. While dancing are the same whose faves cant even hold a note during encore 👀 😭😭😭😭
if u wanna be a kpop content creator atleast be professional about it 😭😭"txt - whatever this song is" ??? what the hell?? like atleast do proper research and dont be sloppy. half of the encores there weren't even that bad and they were just having fun.
Lmao the txt one. I was about to say how Yeonjun can SING, his vocals were just off from the award show the night before. Like don’t pick the worst moment out of all their encores 😭. But I’m glad you showed another clip and didn’t take that one clip as the give all take all like so many others did. Thanks for showing that groups can have off days, and good days.
your most welcome! i feel like kpop fans often tend to forget that having one bad encore doesn't necessarily mean an idol can't sing, we have bad and good vocal days. as i mentioned in the intro, this is a comparision between vocals, not groups. :)
girl ?? like don't show that you're more or less biased on other groups bcz the hell was supposed to mean "txt - whatever this song is idk" or at least do some researches
With the respect that all groups deserve, there are no excuses for singing badly in an encore because they usually don't even dance at those moments. But hey, when your favorite group is Mamamoo, you get used to anything happening in an encore, unless they sing badly.
You told enhypen how they let a rookie group outdo them but enhypen in that encore they were also rookies, they only had 6 months since their debut and it was their first win , if you see their last 2 encores they are really good but no you had to put their first win and even worse calling them experienced when they were also rookies. I invite you to watch their xo, bite me , blessed-cursed and their two tamed dashed encores .
@@Baldforenhypen except they aren’t dancing, they’re standing there. Also if the choreographies to hard for them to sing properly their already easy to sing songs then they need to start doing easier choreos 🤷♀️
@@dibidibidis3367 they were tired.... want do you want? Do you want them to rest in just 5 minutes? They are literally out of breath, sweating. That choreography is a living hell 😭
i remember MARKs sched during 90's Love was crazy!.if im not mistaken its NCT 2020,... MARK & HAECHAN was the bussiest idols jumping from NCT DREAM NCT U & NCT 127 activities
You purposefully only showed the part of the performance where they did'nt sound good. Drunk-daze was thier first win as rookie and they progressed and did good in thier following performances. How about also showing the performance where they performed good like other artists in the video.
5:44 as a moa yes it's bad, but yeah I think this went viral and turns out they just comeback from Japan and straight to the there with no rest, and yeah Nmixx and aespa never disappoint when it comes to encore!! Can't even count how many times i watched dash encore 😂
Most of the boygroups here were not that bad. Mostly only few members struggled. While some of the girlgroups like Illit and IVE everyone struggled. Le Sserafim got carried by one member. Like the BTS On was not even that bad and Jin did better in the other encore. While every encore of Illit, IVE and Le Sserafim was bad. The NCT one did not even have most of its members and they only had the rappers.
@@Danielle_bunny girll their encores arent everything abt their vocals, talk abt them when you've gone to a 3-4 hr concert of them singing live throughout, if you have something to say then i'll accept ur opinion as valid. Kindly do research first. These encores are from like 3 years ago.
Why are you guys defending some of these groups like their entire jobs are not related to being able to sing good, dance good and perform good??? these arent some random people who got on the stage for fun, they are there for their job so yes even if its an encore there’s a valid expectation of hearing good vocals. that’s literally their lives and jobs.
the 90s love one is basically the unemployed one (sungchan since he didnt have a set subunit at the time), the one with no lines (winwin), and the rapper (mark) 😭😭 hilarious
For drunk dazed, enhypen were literally rookies themselves and comparing them is basically u downgrading them directly and I didn’t like it but it’s ok it was your opinion. Future perfect- maybe they had a bad vocal day or smth cuz I ASSURE you they kill it with the live vocals in that song! I suggest you to see one of their tour future perfect encores, like it was a proper encore. They were dancing jumping running screaming AND singing. Also I get you pulled out their worst encores for the video but maybe I could’ve appreciated if u also showed their good ones? Literally everything except those two are good. Recent ones like bite me, xo they killed it. (Pls don’t take this in a wrong way I’m really trying to say in a very positive manner cuz this is your opinions I’m not trying to correct you, just suggesting 😭)
@@jiyagoyel2623 i appreciate your suggestion and have it noted! tbh i watched a good amount of encores and none of them sounded pleasing to me (it’s probably just my inner musician/vocalist senses tingling) i did however, find other clips of them singing but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores. which is why i said their encores aren’t bad but they can’t be considered good either 😭
Instead of comparing different groups, you should compare the groups themselves. It's like you want people to get mad. Also comparing different companies is not even close to fair. It's obvious they're all gonna sound different, cause they all were trained differently
@@_Wonnielvrs for example. As far as I know SM trainees are more trained in vocals, JYP is balanced and Hybe and YG are more into dancing. Also sometimes the conditions of the day weren't the best ( I mean Momo knew herself that.. whatever that was.. that's not what it should've been like, apart from her not singing with her actual voice) I mean how is a K-pop newbie supposed to know what it actually sounds like, when only the bad is shown..
@@T.Kenzaki well getting people mad means more reach for me so 😭 but on a serious note, i thought comparing the groups themselves wouldn’t make sense. as i said, it’s not about the groups, it’s the vocals. different idols will obviously have different ways of singing and i just wanted to show an example of how a good versus a bad encore sounds like since people these days think the bare minimum is good. that’s it, not that deep. i see your argument, though and will take a note of it in the future. thank you for watching!
(before some toxic onces bash this video) it's ok if idols have bad encores they still have plenty of good encores and the still have time to practice their vocals and also its not like every twice encore is in this video. (also i love ur videos!! ur so underatted!!)
@@chaeyoungslovie sorry because mostly ( but not all) in the bad encores twice is present and "some" toxic onces might get offended seeing their faves getting dragged also sorry if my comment offended you!
@@Yestry_Oinnie well im only human afterall 😭 but i tried my best not to play favourites because tbh i don’t even stan most of these groups (except aespa and the boyz i think) this isn’t just based on a specific encore but also based on overall vocal skill :)
that drunkdazed enhypen encore 😥, jungwon is my bias and ofc his voice is unique. But his part on that Drunk dazed sounded really really muffled, playing zerobaseone next just shows the huge difference in vocals I love both tzuyu&Liz composure&eye contact eventhough they are both struggling esp liz but still manages to finish the note
This is exactly why I love bands more than the groups - they ALWAYS perform live and they do it so good, that we're left wondering if they ate their CDs.
as an enhypen ult stan, honestly I've always acknowledged that they're not that special as vocalists, of course heeseung stands out, sunoo too that man is fcking stable, but the others are average. and that's okay. good groups can have bad days too, and it's normal and totally fine. i just feel like you could've done it differently. now, i don't know a thing about zb1, but from what I've seen they're very good vocalists and confronting enha with them or svt felt like you wanted to bring down enhypen and their vocals on purpose. maybe next time you can confront a group's bad and good encore, not two groups. also, i feel like putting recent encores would be better since people change (in that drunk dazed encore literally half of them were going through puberty so of course their voices and vocals are different now). and for the txt thing, that was hilarious but come on how is “deja vu” long😭
I love how all the groups with bad encores are groups that people will swear on their lives sing live ☠️ like your fav can’t even hold a note standing still and you want to say they’re singing 100% live while doing some intricate ass choreo 🙏😭
3:45 This is just baffling to me because she can hold decent notes when they're higher but lines that are basically just spoken have her fighting for her life?? It truly seems like she's not used to anything other than nasally, barely supported vocals and has never once tried doing anything different in her life.
I don’t really understand why you go so much into Enhypen ,they genuinely have one of the best vocals and are getting better and better by day encores are meant to be fun ,just chill out ,you are ridiculous 😂
I think it'll be better if you put more of the recent encores rather than the ones from the past because of course, most of these bad vocal groups were definitely lacking in vocals a few years ago like ive, enhypen, nct and more. I personally feel like the newer groups practice their vocals more because its pretty obvious that if you don't do well on encores you'll get flamed on every social media website. This is just a suggestion if you plan on making more videos like this !
not all these comments trying to excuse the fact that their faves can’t sing live 😳 the reason kpop companies are able to get away with debuting all of these groups that aren’t vocally good is because fans will eat literally any dookie up atp it’s not wrong to point out that enhypen’s encore stages weren’t great in their early debut days and even now many members technique is still struggling. simply, companies shouldn’t be able to get away with this level of incompetence in debuting ppl who can’t even sing when one of their main job requirements is meant to be able to sing decently. not asking for any mariah careys but the least u can do is respect the consumers and allow actual talented ppl to become idols. this is what happens in a society where they care about looks to a bizarre degree smh
@@mynaori zerobaseone’s encore is better in terms of skills, than enhypen’s though… i’m sorry but i don’t think she said anything blatantly disrespectful in the vid, she was just showing good & bad encore stages, it’s not her fault that enhypen has several bad ones
@@mynaori also i wanna add that a lot of it comes down to the company’s fault. they need to invest more time and money into providing proper vocal training to idols! AND they need to give them songs that are actually in their range, cos otherwise the idols obviously are gonna fumble the live stages cos the song/their part in the song ain’t in their vocal range.
im gonna get shat on for this but that nct encore proves that winwin brings nothing to nct besides his visuals he cant sing or rap. Like mark was carying that encore and sungchan was trying his best but winwin was literally running away from even bringing that mic anywhere near his mouth
I feel like some groups are overworked so they can't sing properly while others don't have enough experience singing without backtrack to match the pitch and tempo of the song so they sound bad. Also, some can't hear themselves properly because of bad or not working in-ears... And lastly, idols are people too, so they get nervous or stressed, you can critique them if all the performances are bad but if you are cherry-picking bad ones then you are just being mean and borderline bullying them... Also, why are you being mean to Enhypen for no reason? You purposely chose their first win so they were probably very nervous and they even skipped some parts because they don't have to sing those parts with a backtrack... And if you watched the whole performance it was still not horrible just some members struggled with high notes.
Exactly what I thought. Enhypen was doing just fine and they are good vocalists. People can't even tolerate idols having fun and have to forcefully put them in "bad" category the moment they just let go of the stress and try to enjoy their win.
And I'd like to point out, the only thing brutal here is you trying your very best to bad mouth Enhypen for no good reason??? "Comparing Enha and SVT is brutal", be fr, both are amazing groups.
comparing enhypen and seventeen IS brutal. seventeen are senior and experienced artists with some of the best and well trained vocalists while enhypen still have room for improvement and haven’t really proved their vocal skills yet (atleast not like seventeen has)
I feel like encores really don't matter that much,cuz I've seen singers do so much better in live performances than encore, so many just have fun on encores.
I feel like the reason encodes matter now is cause a lot of "live" performances aren't really live. And sometimes for some artists, they rely on backtrack when actually performing live so you don't get a chance to hear them live at all.
@@Gold3nPanda your funny! if u cant do encore well, how much more live?... other groups uses recorded songs during performance thats why you cant hear the sounds of their breaths...stop being delusional...
@@D3CALC0MANIE this‼️ i understand i wasn’t the nicest in the video but people are taking this too seriously. i just wanted to show examples of how a bad and a good encore sounds like since fans seem to forget how an encore actually should sound like since people nowadays praise the bare minimum 😭
ponía uno del año de la papa y boom ya todo su esfuerzo reducido a *ese* encore del 2021 donde apenas y era su primer win y obviamente estaban emocionales
7:15 Then why didn’t you just compare Enhypen to their own good encore like you did with Twice and BTS instead of comparing them to other groups if you would’ve just compared every group to themselves maybe there you would’ve been able to show what valid constructive criticism is
@@_Wonnielvrs i couldn’t find a good one? that’s what the text says 😭 im not saying enha are bad singers i js couldn’t find one lmao. i did however, come across other clips but couldn’t add them in since they weren’t encores.
@@shotanextdoor HELP no way u just said that and I agree with you you she didn’t say anything when it was lesserafim or illit you just wanna protect your dear bg but not gg.
5:40 based on their hands being next to their ears, they probably can't hear themselves through the screen 🤔 I sing, and when the music is too loud or the screen is not loud enough, I basically catch the sound coming out of my mouth and channel it with my hand to my ear
this was a very interesting video but i’d just like to mention that you said your point wasn’t to compare groups but vocals only, while at 3:37 you literally put one group on top of another by saying they outdid enhypen. my intention isn’t to attack you and your content bc i think encores are being so scrutinised lately that it’s natural we discuss abt it, but it would’ve been best to stay true to your word and solely discuss vocals. using old clips from debut/rookie days without showing the improvement the group has achieved could lead to misinformation and unnecessary hate. opinions are more than valid ofc, but this was supposed to be discussing vocals solely.
@@XingX_love_riel this wasn’t my point at all ofc i acknowledge enha in their debut era weren’t as good vocally-wise as zb1 at the same time, but we were supposed to compare solely vocals and not groups.
I think Twice, Txt and Enhypen's performances are like secret santa gifts. Sometimes you get some really good stuff and sometimes you get a piece of garbage.
At least the music is good. As a Blink, ReVeluv and My I have never really became their fan for their vocals, but mostly because I enjoy the music. I will have a problem if I pay for a concert and all I receive is playback, loud backtrack and just dancing. But as long as I have Spotify I don't mind if idols can or cannot sing. Unfortunately, their songs are often not in their range and that causes a problem. If you are an experienced singer like Ningning, Winter, Rosé or Wendy you should cover many ranges but if you are less experienced in the singing category then that factor will cause you a problem.
I think encores are suppose to be fun , not serious. They out there singing and enjoying with the fans. Its a celebration right ? They are celebrating while being goofy.
I watched the whole thing like i get your point, but you seriously handled the situation really badly. Comparing groups, showing video from centuries ago, and etc. i feel like you could have told your message but in a nicer way like comparing groups to the groups themselves. The txt one was just disrespectful.. like couldn't you search the song up? I didn't even listen to that song or listen to txt that much but if you're gonna make a video about them then you should also do some research about them and make sure there won't be any mistakes.
@@SunsamstansTXTsaying i don’t like txt when i complimented taehyun, mentioned they are good singers AND showed a good clip of them singing the same song is crazy 😭 y’all would do anything to victimise these (grown) men.
I really appreciate you about this video or you didn't support any toxicity here most of the group stan be like hybe boy groups are like good vocals bruh .yes some time except seventeen. I don't forget to subscribe you 😅
I didn't expect this amount of damage in the comments 😂 Love watching insecure people basing their life on celebrities and then getting hurt if the celebrities don't do something perfect or have flaws, and starting blaming others for pointing it out. The delulu is SO REAL
@@cosmowhiskey1675 im not saying im a 100% right because i definitely am not but some of these people put idols on a pedestal and treat them like some sort of divine entity when some of them can barely do their jobs right 😭
@@karinluvsina and you didn't even write anything offensive, you simply showed bad encores 💀 We can only imagine what damage would've been done if you had commented more on it. Lives would've been destroyed 😔🙏🏻
tbh i don't think any girl group can sing twice's songs lol. maybe red velvet, but they might struggle too. they are THAT high. so impressive tbh. same goes to enhypen 'cause enhypen and twice are my ults. their songs are more high-pitched but recently, it's in their vocal ranges
wait the more i watched, i realized some of them aren't even bad?? am i missing something. TXT was fine? Itzy was fine? what am I missing? even though lesserafim are not the greatest vocalists, that specific encore wasn't the worst? even wonhee was singing properly? i'm confused? and liz's high note in I AM? I know that it's all up to speculation, but at the same time, some of these groups were not inherently BAD at the encore thing like you are saying? no hate at all all love but i'm confused
@@aarushimyers7740 well they kinda are 😭 im not sure if i am the only one able to catch it because im a vocalist but yeonjun was out of breath, yeji had no support and was screaming for her life, sakura and chaewon were singing off pitch. wonhee’s wasn’t particularly BAD but not the best either, she was off by a tad. liz’s high note was strained with her struggles sounding prominent which is all the producer’s fault BECAUSE LIKE WHY WOULD U PICK A SONG THAT HIGH??? i get your confusion and i don’t blame you at all! i should’ve been more proper with my reasonings. sorry about that!
@@Golden_kookno. u dont know the meaning of being “biased”. admin never said that THEYRE THE BEST AND THEY HAVE NO BAD ENCORES (unlike the one u replied to). i mean, its just examples of bad and great vocals TOTALLY not comparing groups or their whole career. also, im glad you have watched bp’s encores, as a non-blink, u must be so obsessed😩stream your own fav, watch your own fav
i will be honest ur points were valid but u just recklessly compared enha with vocally based it feels like ur purposely downgrading them and during drunk dazed except heesueng i think all of them were teens and going through puberty u should use recent encore stages
@@SunsamstansTXT ??? i literally complimented taehyun AND showed a good clip of them singing. it’s not my fault y’all sensitive ass fans can’t tolerate any sorta criticism or joke towards ur little boos. these are grown men, by the way. y’all don’t even know what these guys are like irl 😭
@@karinluvsinaBut you didn’t even try to get the name of their most recent song?😭 I appreciate that you’re bringing these problems up and aren’t trying to make it seem like it’s fine when it clearly isn’t, but you could’ve done more.
There is a good encore is where they sound good and have good vocals bad encores are the opposite. Stayc and Nmixx for example show that you can have fun while also sounding good.
@@w0nyst0e nono im talking about why there are videos like this talking about encores😭😭 usually idols do encores to celebrate their win with fans, not to showcase their singing
i dare to say, Momo sound strained on the more&more encore but yall are reaching, that's exactly how she sound on the mv of course, it's not a good vocal "showcase" either, but jyp used to give her lines that require a higher voice when her tone of voice is clearly lower, way lower now days she sings on her range and it's way better (and there's nothing wrong with fancy one, gtfo)
