Google Embarrass Themselves (A.I. War Is Heating Up) 

Yeah Google has become shiiiiiit since three years ago when they started to monetize every second of web search or RU-vid. They kinda done themselves.

Neeva and Brave are good.

It would happen the same thing if microsoft want to monetize that. Please learn from history... provocation instead of learning... everybody will change if about money...

I've organically started using Bing more and more over the last couple of years. It has better results for image searches most of the times. Sometimes when I google a query I get the same irrelevant results even after rewording them, adding and removing operators - it's really sliding into shit. And, not that I do this, it has superior porn video search😇

@@andreaspriantono6791 At least with competition, these two companies have to fight for our views and cater a bit more to our wishes. If you are a monopoly you can make your product as egregious as you want.

This true?

100% google are in trouble

In reality Google played it safe because if the A.I backfired it wouldn’t have been pretty

This is why Steve jobs said it was better to cannibalise your own products because if you don’t someone else will.

you just dont know what you are talking about, do you ? does flamingo, chinchilla or even the invention of transformer AI ring a bell

I'm sure there will be mods to make your AI search into Clippy created by the internet on Day 1.

I'm absolutely down for it. I don't know why don't companies understand that some people just love nostalgia. I remember as a kid I used to use it on my dad's computer.

I love that lil bastard 📎

Just wait for the day Clippy becomes sentient

@@zasta7 Especially when nostalgia dominates other aspects of life like music and fashion today

Google not doing it, because they collecting money from ads. You know, when user’s get instant answers. The impression for ads going down.

@@Rhidayah - On the flip side, MS can't keep giving free milk. Eventually, they need to monetize that "free" search. We users are already the product, but that AI is going to have one hell of a bill that we need to pay for using it. How will that bill be paid? Will it be subscription services?

@@bruzote It'll be eating -Google's- Chrome's lunch. Then, eating Google's ad revenue. I've been using Edge and Bing Chat a lot more over the last couple of months because of GPT-4's integration into the browser.

@@bruzote Considering Google sells all our search and browsing information, and every site we go to hits us with Cookies that capture all our personal Data which they use for marketing and selling... WE shouldn't have to pay for a "general" limited search engine like we have now... but may have to pay a fee for Chat-GPT... which might be more expensive considering a limited intelligent user base and how poorly current educational practices are... and the more intelligent a user is, there will be a higher form of censorship to keep then from searching for sensitive information.

The thought of this is insane, a whole other level of power now.

i agree. seems like google stopped innovating.. google search has become unusable.

@@manp1039 ikr like 70% of my questions never get answer and the results arent even relevant completely dodges what i was asking

Google's AI is Asshole Intelligence, how can our computer spy on you smarter?

i will be very happy to see google fall. since they took away something very important to me. my old photos without even telling me. i just couldn't access my Picasa account back then. its my peasure to see them in this situation

And both on the same central topic.

Kek

This is only going to end in the rise of skynet

my thoughts exactly... good for me

@@LuisSierra42 Skynet ❤

😂

lol, that's a good point!

@@Lanessar8008 yeah we all assumed this, I think he was just being funny..

they have the Google+ feature 😂

Probably running AdBlock lol. I haven't seen ads in years due to AdBlock and running private DNS to block ads for both desktop and smartphone. (search private DNS for ad block)

That search was "Chrome download"

Yeah, he can sell it. Doesn't mean anything about the product though.

More like get... No need to find it by opening links. You just get it.

That is sharp. 👍😁

"Find" is more understandable compared to going to page 2 on Google...😅

Lmao

True. I think Microsoft nailed it with thier presentation. I just Hope Google doesn't fall far behind

I think the brand awareness of Google may help them though. I never use Bing because everything else just defaults to Google, it will take some serious rewiring of habits for me to start using Bing instead. I remember when Bing first launched and everyone just laughed at the name moved on. Bizarrely even now I can't take it seriously and think of Chandler when I hear it.

They knew what AI can do, and stuck to it.

Me too, I may even reconsider to start using Bing now.

@@BlueZirnitra I haven’t used Google for ages, it fell off a long time ago

Also manipulating search results...

@@KT-83 Yeah, lol. Theres a reason a lot of young people are using google + ddg or something similar.

@@KT-83 well everything has to be somewhat "manipulated"

Google search results have become alot worse for the last 6 months or so. And I mean by an order of magnitude worse. I'm a developer, and I used to be able to find answers quickly for basically any dev-related question using Google. Always relevant stuff (and I don't see any sponsored stuff or ads because I use Ublock Origin). But the last few months have been absolutely terrible. I can't get answers even to basic and beginner stuff now. It's very odd.

They are just selling themselves out. Their hay day is probably over. Google employees need to put away their yoga mats and get to work.

It could turn out to be a disaster. It might take away lots of revenue from authors/writers. They might be inclined to research and publish stuff when an AI bot can scrap all data and pass it to users. It will also be bad for our justice system which is already bad enough. Innocent people will get blamed for things they didn't do, and criminals will easily get away by refuting evidence and condemning AI for all the bad things they did. It will get harder and harder to prove the evidence. And it's already happening, AI is getting blamed for all political audio leaks.

I've been considering the structure of education and role technology should play in evolving our institutions as well. I think it could be an efficient process, if we transitioned into like a reference/pointer based system for information with focus on treading through false information, and allow us to focus more on creative and critical ideas.

To be fair, the time saved by not slogging through the texts could be utilized in crafting up new and innovative ways of solving the problem, or in just plain creativity. It's gonna be a boon for those who are interested in actual *education* .

@@Raj-gr6dy Yeah that's true, I just think with amazing AI tools like chatgpt becoming normal nowadays there's really nothing pushing us to try and learn or think anymore because thinking creative and original thoughts is hard and who would want that if everything's so comfortable and easy and there's so many ways to distract ourselves rather than be introspective and deep thinkers. I'm just imagining those people from Wall-E in their hoverchairs stuffing their faces and watching mindlessly on their screen. We're really not that far off from that. Plus, the changes happening in tech is rapid that I think it's inevitable that some people will be left behind and the ones that do manage to keep up will be exhausted and anxious all the time. I think yours is the more optimistic way of looking at this which I really hope is how we'll become but who knows.

I have a different philosophy entirely, Ive been using chat gpt feverishly learning python or often to replace google and one thing Ive learned is that its not a replacement for understanding a subject because its usefulness scales with its user's knowledge of the subject. You have to know how to ask the right questions with the right context to get better results. And you have to know when to check the ai which requires just knowing the subject. The rapid fire nature of the ais answers, mixed with the high likeiehood of getting a repeat answer from similar questions, means its quicker and requires less resistance to formulate new ideas yourself and use chat gpt to explore those trees of thought than it is to try to get the chat to cheat something together for you. It will most definitely require huge overhauls across the board and especially in education, but I think those changes are long overdue. It was a gpt chat thread that first suggested python coding, and from there I started going hard, mentor in pocket.

... yeah including that hilarious but sad one about how AI is going to make life better. We've never heard that before in connection with technology forcing the treadmill faster, micromanagement of every moment of Life tighter, Etc. Ah yes the religion of Technology.

@@nonnobissolum such cynicism to the point of morbidity can only come from a life filled with failure and regret. Are you as depressing as you sound or is it just something you do on RU-vid?

@@endoflevelboss Bro, it's just a youtube comment, a normal one at that. Are you by chance the best psychologist in the world if you can tell that he's living a miserable life based solely on that comment?

@@endoflevelboss lol. Project much? Also, perhaps you've never heard the quote about the power of accurate observation frequently being mistaken for cynicism by people who do not possess the power of accurate observation.

@@nonnobissolum AI will definetly make life better!Technology has improved life so much in the last 40 years,i grew up through the eighties and it was pretty basic and boring compared to now!

And they have little built-in loyalty given their track record across their products the last 7-8 years.

Not really tbh. They have more on AI than Microsoft and without Google chatGPT won’t exist so they are really only late to the implementation and that’s not really a problem because you are not gonna switch to bing or edge

Google search has turned into a paid advertising feed. It's what happens when you have a monopoly and purposefully crappify your product to extract more money from your captive audience. Sooner or later a competitor enters the market and trounces you.

Google is leading ai research. Google started it with transformers and Google also has state of the art language models like PaLM. They are also making new discoveries about scaling laws. They have better tech in AI than pretty much everyone. They have state of the art in image generation and also language models. (and good new research)

This is like Intel and AMD all over again

That's going to completely change how I do research for papers

They played the long game with Edge and Bing and from the looks of it they're about to win.

This is exactly why the business model won't scale.

If they start doing that then they deserve what's to come.

Use ad blockers and noscript

@@dekkeroid2962 I use brave and also don't read the news so I'm double good

@@CristianGarcia Not really. The AI has 2 parts, the past, and the future. In terms of what has been recorded from now and all the way to the past, it has all been read by the AI. Therefore, questions regarding anything that doesn't involve up-to-date information will be answered effortlessly. Then comes the future part., and I agree this will have problems. However, I believe that the past and what has been recorded already will cover the bigger part of the questions asked. Therefore, I still think it will scale big time.

strikes me as a very Bill Gates thing to do, you're probably not wrong

They work hard on this stuff, big proof is their contract from few months ago with Lockheed Martin.

Strongly agreed

I highly doubt there was anything to be surprised about since the news of MS funding profit oriented part of OpenAI years ago pal. There was this leek about Google Lamda AI being sentient few months ago so something does not add up. MS developed their AI heavily and Google is silent about theirs - i believe it is a good thing, they cant Rush Such sensitive matter forward too Quick or it will kill us all :D Jokes aside, I see Google winning that battle.

@@ElectromagneDikk Bill Gates stopped working at Microsoft since a long time ago.

Microsoft just got super hot again, I'd imagine a lot of people are going to look to switch. Satya's been constantly killing it, love the guy.

@@jameshughes6078 Microsoft is really keen to take over again or at least compete competitively. Edge's Phoenix rumors are looking to really set it apart, bing is finally viable, they're finally supporting Xbox. What they really need is a leg in the mobile space and to keep pushing. The former I think they're already set to do while disrupting the market. They just need to release a mobile phone running full windows and using the android subsystem to have access to windows and Android apps (and they need to build their own official android app store or partner with google play store on that). Then get with Samsung and some other Android phone makers to push it as an alternative to Android and IOS. Modern mobile hardware should be more than capable of just running windows (if not at least windows on Arm). And if they continue to improve touch and the UI/UX in tablet mode and make a simplified version you can switch to on mobile it should do well enough. I'm excited. Microsoft had to really innovate to come back after getting conceited.

@@jameshughes6078 On the other hand, I would be shocked if Sundar Pichai doesn’t get sacked by the end of the year

I'm also excited in this way, but... does it have to be Microsoft? I'd be glad to see a tech war (I mean it in the good competition sense) finally shifting away from the good old Silicon Valley and that players from other places would also grab their big chunks from it. Like companies from China and Japan for instance.

To bad they are both woke and clearly partial in their answers. Specifically chat GPT.

seriously, im excited about this

Bing is good in English and in USA. I can attest (because I'm bilingual) that Bing is no where near the precision of Google in Spanish nor in Latinoamerica. There's no real competition in foreign market because Google works per country, Bing per region (the results are not as precise)

@@Jose04537 Not really. I'm in Australia and Bing's answers even in English are nowhere as accurate as Google's. And I'm speaking as someone who is quite invested in their ecosystem, owning an Xbox, farm Microsoft Rewards, subscribed to Game Pass, Office 365, Windows etc.

@@GyariSan1 He literally said that language is something bing is not very good at. It's 100% true if you've ever searched for things in different languages on different search engines. Google is really great for every language while bing is just not.

@@randyme2151 *Jonathan Frakes replies* : False. Not this time. It's fiction. No way.

You do still need to know how to ask a good question if you want a good answer.

Since this is how normies were imagining search in the first place, can we make the normal search the way it was before ? Can somebody just give me google like it was 2007-2014? Thanks

It still sucks.

Garbage in garbage out. It can’t read your mind

@@JonahNelson7 bs

The Blue screen has increased its occurance with Windows 10 onwards. Microsoft updates are making systems unreliable.

Or breaking the Tesla Cybertrack glass.

@@rtos the fuck are you doing to your pc to get blue screen past 2010

@@borisvidolov - That pompous strutting around and then smashing the car's windows would have been a dead sentence for any other product presentation. But the vehicle was so wild, and Elon has (eh, had) such a big fanbase, that it was forgiven almost immediately.

@@tubularap , I agree.

Yes, I like Google, but the super-incredible-this is amazing lead they had a decade or more ago with regards to search performance is long gone. I'd definitely switch if Bing has a good "relaunch" with AI.

DuckDuckGo is the future

@@ThwipThwipBoom yep, i use it also

@@ThwipThwipBoom whatever happened to Ask jeeves?

While Microsoft for decades has, through monopolistic maneuvering, held the world hostage to its poor software.

It's was magnified by the fact that they tried to respond to Microsoft and failed the presentation

I mean it is. It’s just our belief in it that makes it anything useful

This wasn't a presentation for your college / university project, this was a business presentation about the direction of the company and what it's future would be like compared to their rivals. If anything, this proves accountability and that you can't just go by your name, but must have a product to match the reputation. In this case, it actually proves that money and the monetary system (even though it's broken in a lot of other instances) is still based on something real and tangible rather than just reputation and hype. I am sure after this incident and the blowback, the engineers and executives will be forced to grow up and act more professionally and with more seriousness. They won't treat making a business presentation like making a tiktok video.

As limbe said, wasn't the mistake the AI said, but rather their own stupidity in rushing. Better waiting a few weeks and prepare something properly.

it's all about sentiment and opportunity.

a veritable " bitch- slap". Google got sidetracked by politicized censorship and they need to be humbled.

😂

It's ruthless. Even if Google did something , Microsoft still has the first laugh , nothing can take it from them.

Goosebumps.

Dance = sh*t their drawers 😂

Google made Alpha Zero. This is a significantly bigger leap in AI than what ChatGPT actually represents. Chat GPT is just a more useful application, but not a bigger leap in AI technology.

@@ericarezzo6675 that's true, they were really on top of things with their deep mind projects. I've not heard anything from them about that since alphazero was released in 2017

Esspecially when you are following. They bascially need to jump 3 years in 1 year to get ahead of everyone. I have my doubts it's possible for such a big company

They're not though. Open AI jumped the gun with a public release, but Google has had these internal tools in play for years.

That's an example for bad research. Google has been on this topic for years. Just see their keynotes from 2 years ago. Google made tools open source, that open ai utilizes. What we're seeing here is just about UX it's not about how good the ai is in these examples. So the outcome of this race is far from being as obvious as you proclaim here.

@MiroslawHorbal thats the most troubling part to me. They've said they have been working on AI for years now. But it seems they are just now putting focus on AI now. Hopefully, it was just a bad day, and their AI is much more developed

I follow a RU-vid channel called two minute papers, and in the AI space, a week seems like forever.

I think it's more about "They don't want investors to see any negative feedback" than not wanting to listen to it themselves.

Well they can bring it back in a 2.0 version and have it integrated with the new bing. It could very well surpass google assistant.

He might not even know yet. This seems to be more to get people to use bing first, take market share from Google. Then monetise.

I think they should focus on decimating Google first

Probably ads + paid adless service. Remember, youtube used to have no ads.. after getting popular they started monetizing. It will be interesting to see how people will integrate ads into chat AI. Probably similar with some youtubers integrated their sponsor into their video.. Something like: "According to our patners, the best way to buy .. is on .."

Avoid?.. Dude are you even listening "the search engine was the most profitable category, I just need more user than my competitor" = YES HE WILL MONETIZED IT....

The answer is obvious IMHO: ads (which are already there, the demo had ads) and pay for use/subscription (perhaps a 'better' tool will be subscription, or something like that). At the moment they are focused purely on market share, which makes sense considering how big the market is.

Even more important, they integrated the new Bing into Edge. You literally have chatGPT 4.0 Bing on your browser.

@@Rapunzel879 Downside is both Edge and Bing are utter garbage (the Micro$oft way)

@@insertwittymonikerhere +5000

@@insertwittymonikerhere oh stop it edge isn't internet explorer it's pretty good i personally don't use it but it's pretty solid and often faster than chrome Bing is also matured a lot it's great for video and image searches

@@LeonidRemmel I'll give you that about Edge, but I still hate it. Bing, no. Everything Microsoft makes is garbage.

It still sucks.

I think we split into an alternate timeline once 2020 hit.

Bing has been superior to Google since Google started recommending ads over answers.

If you want an ice cream cone go to an ice cream shop. Don’t go get it from someone that bought it from an ice cream shop. Sounds sketchy.

Bruh.....

yep. for the first time basically since i’ve been alive I have used Bing. the truth is I have no personal connection to google, if a competitor is better at search I will switch.

There always has been

honestly at this point i barely use Google to directly search for stuff, the engine has become so fkn dumb and i have to spend more time looking for a solution than actually implementing it.

Can Google maybe come up with its own shit?

@@toobig7150 thats nice but youre party of only 3 percent

I want some also please

@@sebayangaming work for it

@@sebayangaming shameless

I think this time we will see two giant tech clashing each other to make a great AI search engine, and user will be divided until only one standing and then the search engine become so popular until the search engine having slow performance because user searching for something Gibberish, for me my personal, Open AI is great for specific important things you need, while google is more like public entertainments search kinda like GPS and Maps, one is to the point other is for looking more option

2 years ago it was still great, even comparable to yandex RIS, now it's shit

Yandex is best for image search and piracy

Integrating google lens added too much garbage data to their machine learning algorithm

Google and Sundar were more concerned with politics and banning Trump and free speech. That’s why they will fucking lose.

its not good all this stuff effectively does is make humans redundant. This is bad.

@@nightshift4587 Thats the good part. Humans can now be humans again. Have more time to do the stuffs humans suppose to do. like live life more.

I thought so too, and they really didn't sound cheesy like Apple has for so many years. It was really direct and to the point. Here's an example of an Ikea chair going in a couch. We've not seen innovation like this in ages.

@@chadradwell2593 i think they focus more on formal/economic reports( those have summary on their own or key points that bing can scoup up and present). Not summarizing a whole novel into few paragraghs.

@@greggianbayocboc How do you suppose someone "liberated" by this technology and "living life" with their new found freedom - buy food? Rent? Energy costs?

Competition makes the companies come out with better products. Consumers always win

They chose wokeness over progress and are paying the price

@@MichaelDiSalvoSATandACTTutor exactly mate! Fuckin'll finally someone who understands!!! Wokeness is fake and will always lose!

Satya Nadella, one of the greatest modern CEOs of all time. If not for him Microsoft would not be where they are today.

@@GyariSan1 I totally agree.

Great comment. Very intelligent.. almost toooooo intelligent.. WHO PROGRAMMED YOU?! WHICH ONE DO YOU WORK FOR?!?! DO YOU HAVE EMOTIONS?!?!?! Either way can you tell how to make 5 million bucks and write my Bumble bio for me plz..? Thaannkkssss

Lots of parlor tricks very easy to access.

Naaah, it could give the impression that they are recycling old stuff

Looks like we need to setup an online petition and get enough people to sign it.

📎"It looks like you're trying to write a doctoral thesis on the relationship between leadership and employee engagement in the legal services industry!"

@@laputa2195 lol, you win the internet for today, kind user

Haha!

to anybody really

it isn't complacency at all. It's directed and intentional restructuring of their platform to better support/promote their political agenda I wouldn't even consider they are motivated by corporate interest, if they are, they'll produce worthwhile products that actually bring revenues and profits.

When they're more interested in inclusion and diversity instead of staying in their lane and producing a product people NEED. All AI is atm is a toy until it's ULTIMATE use which is cheating and propaganda.

See Intel

@@gelmir7322 This They destroyed their own platforms with woke shit. Google never recovered since 2012 quality-wise, and then after 2016, apparently there's no turning back

Didn’t expect to see you here!

If I'm not wrong, in the AI answers to queries most statements had links to sources. So that's not different from what search engines and personal assistants already do.

Hey Pewdiepie 😊

Bing doesn't care about webmasters, they block websites without saying anything.

Hame Nahi chayie ji!

I +1'd you.. but keep in mind they are some of the highest paid employees on the planet, and there's plenty of evidence to suggest they haven't been working /super/ hard in recent times. So I'm glad OpenAI/Microsoft/Bing came around to light a fire under their butts. I'm sure Google will find a way to come out doing just fine.

They didn’t tho, Google’s AI has been there for years.

@@TheNpcNoob I think he means having it released to the general public as a working and stable product

@@TheNpcNoob Google researchers wrote the original paper outlining Transformer A.I. Architecture in 2017, they were far ahead in the research. Their research scientists did what all scientists do, they published it and basically open sourced the idea. OpenAI comes along and picks it up and runs with it, with MS’s deep pockets to make it happen. Google stumbled in believing that A.I. had little application to their core search business when it looks like they could lose a good chunk of it because they ‘lacked vision’.

they were probably among the thousands recently sacked.

Lucky acquisition? Some would say brilliant.

Not an acquisition investment. Open AI is still a separate entity. Microsoft is just funding them so they get access to the cool toys.

@@vullord666 They are feeding Open ai. They are trying to scale open ai for last 3yrs

@@vullord666 not just that. Microsoft and its Zune servers are being used by OpenAI.

Or is it? To me personally that is the elephant question. What is Google doing with their AI project? I confess I'm starting to suspect bad things, but I'm not going that road just yet. Snap out of it, Vinícius! If not that, then I'm at least worried what a desperate colossus like Google is capable of doing if eventually cornered and existentially threatened. I'm well aware we're living in an actual info world war and the US empire is collapsing in different ways and they're jealous that communist China has been progressing consistently for decades and taking the lead and they're afraid it might inspire anticapitalist surges in other places to "replace" US-lead liberal democracy values with China-lead "common prosperity" projects. The war in Ukraine is ultimately about it (it marks the end of US hegemony). Now... if Google continues to take hard his from the competition, will it secretly sell itself for western geopolitical propaganda and control what we see in the internet? Or does it actually take a desperate colossus selling itself off at all? Or is it quietly already happening and we've been controlled for years? My fear is, if nothing of that is happening, then it will.

I agree, it’s been getting harder and harder to find anything via Google. It’s like they forgot what their product was meant to do

Also smart people automatically ignore ads.

yes. i don't think that i have ever not watched a CF video until the end.

It would be if they didn't just regurtitate press releases, some technology claims require a critical eye which they dont do.

You would not believe the literal search results I get when I search for information on conceptual or mathematical modeling in Physics!

Wow I can see the technical skill this thing appeals to if you can't distinguish between a browser and a search engine.

@@Stay_away_from_my_swamp_water I am but a simple little pleb not any more computer savvy than the average person my age.

lol true. But if you look into the spending, I believe its more on AI than the actual metaverse

No one needed more entertainment machines. Computers and phones only became so widespread because they were tied to productivity in some capacity, meaning that companies had to invest in them, make people familiar with them, and then they take that familiarity back home and spend their own money or company money on a home device.

Facebook is pretty advanced in AI research actually. I speak a little known language from East Africa and I'm shocked by how accurately Facebook translates it!

Facebook punching the air rn

@@ayoCC Nothing wrong with investing in potential entertainment machines, I just don't want be forced to use said entertainment machines in my work, just as little as I'd bring an xbox controller to my powerpoint presentation

Possibly devastation. Less and less steps to secure the use of AI and ill intented people will eventually use it for self gain, weapons and manipulation

exactly, it's historical

@TheLoneJourney If you think this is not historical then why are you here Your comment is completely full of fear of not being able to control the situation once some big ambitious fantasy turns into reality. You are a person who has no control over his life

They've been putting the building blocks together for a strong core offering, but yes they've had plenty of stumbles along the way.

Build their own web browser first.

Honestly it was an acquisition, not really built internally by Microsoft.

@@chosenone6158 still, their 10 year deal is stable enough for them to continue building on their lead and eventually leap frog google to become the industry leaders in software again. It also helps that Azure (which will also get OpenAI tool integration) is already ahead well of Google Cloud.

they are actually already well off, especially with their cloud business

Microsoft has been doing great in recent years, I never thought I would think they were a good company only a few years ago but it feels like everything they touch turns to gold lately.

We’re witnessing the fastest industrial revolution in history！

So wise, I'm not sure he is a human anymore...

Only idio** do college

@@cmdrTremyss Not wise, only capable of memorizing things. Being wise is another thing completely different. AI will never be wise.

I think we are witnessing quite the opposite of industrialisation.

Say my name.

Pinkman : stop playing with my mind.!!!!

Jesse we need to train the AI

@@ipenguin3918 Bing 😂

Ouch.

Before he started putting his name on the videos, I legit thought he was an AI synthesized voice 🤣

LOL, I agree!

That was just before they were bought by execs who wanted to get into advertising. Such a long time ago... 😞

@Cary Galloway lol it has...it's more corporate now....John Oliver Last Week Tonight actually made an episode on this..

@Cary Galloway Search changed, but in such way that now it is useless. And it is useless partially because of AI. AI generated websites without real information or "platforms" on first pages of search query. I even stooped to "asking google"(or duckduckgo or others). It was different 10 years ago.

@@inevespace plus sponsored content often occupying over half of the top searches ruins all credibility. Especially considering Google does a terrible job checking the content of their Google adds. The top Google search result for the open source 3d software Blender was a google add leading to a scam website packed with malicious software for weeks before they took it down.

It was a lie from the beginning to bate us in for our data to feed the system!

This is super accurate

Exactly, Google Apps is a junkyard area of this culture.

"Irfaan Farhat" ~Fri 10 feb 23 20h GMT _The culture of launch as many projects as you can rather than fix what you have in hand_ Full accurate description of Google behavior. Not a single word could be removed or added or changed. Like notes in Mozart. Sat 11f23 14h13 GMT

a better idea for Google would be to make a 100% human powered chat system. They already have a network of content creators... monetize it otherwise the effects this will have on the economy will be disasterous

Thanks people. 🐦

See how groundbreaking presentations are traced back to him

back in the day, Larry and Sergey approached him to be Google CEO, but he declined.

Steve jobs was an asshole to his employees and didn't care about child labour, great dude

@CB agreed, he was incredible

People have underestimated Microsoft for decades... The brain trust over there is very good at what they do... Some companies are strong companies, like Disney... Even though we might disagree, or dislike them, they do have the ability to adapt as well as a track record of getting things right over time.

We did porn first. As always.

I expected nothing less. As the machines are getting smarter, the humans are getting dumber.

You know, when I first saw chat GPT, my first Primal instinct is to keep it to myself until I start making money. Then I said to myself, that's silly, because it's not a secret. It's out here. But I started showing it to people and no one had seen it and knew what it was. But after I showed them, you know what they did with it? Nothing. That's going to be the difference. The people who see the larger impact and the people who just keep going about their daily lives acting like this is not going to be a paradigm shift

@@nuorigin Yes, most people are lacking perspective.

Love this 😂

the one who lost the presentation phone!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢could cost his/her life

I cackled.

@@bharadwajbhavanam9091 Google Ai hid the phone It now has the comparison of Microsofts current AI and it can leap frog Microsoft Ai

The loser of the woke off?

that's what happens when you have a monopoly you don't think you can lose

@@casamir1 And now Google is behind, LMAO. It takes time to train an AI.

They made money and shady business with our data

@@Guesan they have an imaginable stash of high end GPUs and custom hardware, they can train massive models on days, or less than a day.

I think they spend all their time and money on developing AlphaGo, an AI that can perform the extremely important task of...... playing a boardgame called Go.

multiple databases, controlled by algorithms.

@@jeevan88888 But who is watching the generator of said algorithms?

Which is why I think AI technology shouldn’t be used or followed up on. Too few benefits with too few good consequences compared to the many negatives it will have.

@@Lawnmower737 yes, make sure you never use it. While the rest of the world leaves you behind.

As if search engines aren't already biased on what they show you. Sure, they might show you every result, but what appears in the first page in the first result...

There’s also the possibility of using analog computing chips to better decode voice signals for ai. If Microsoft can integrate this tech along with chatgpt into a new smart speaker they could have a revolutionary product.

They're definitely making big moves

Hell ya. It's been so obvious in tech for the last few years especially. Google results are now bloat

Yeah it's heating up! Get the popcorn and watch all the crazy competition that's about to happen! It's definitely gonna be intense! 🔥

Yes, but can he monkey dance?

​@@evan5178 RU-vid results are terrble as well.

The next step would be to open a portal to another dimension in the effort to promote Bing and Edge

Bing Shade

That's why they need AI lol

Welcome to the new era!

I will switch to edge and bing yesterday if it's as good as they said in their presentation. I hate ads so much I use adblocker and pay for any streaming service no matter how infrequently I use it. I am so tired of getting full pages of ads if I don't add "reddit" to the end of a query that I am done with anything google.

it looks like a star trek technology !

I've stopped thinking sci-fi is actual sci-fi

Robotics is advancing rapidly too. And medical science. Even though we were already living in a “sci-fi “ world 10 years ago compared to 50 years ago, it’s truly starting to “feel” sci-fi lol

Very apocalyptic. Companies like Microsoft and Google should not own proprietary technologies like this. It is poorly researched. Everything is going to hell. If the people can not own and moderate these technologies on their own accord, they should not exist.

Next IO could be really exiting. I am sure with the recent live demo debacle, next ones will be perfect.

Defying a monopoly is always beneficial to consumers, otherwise they stop innovating and focus on profit margins. Doesn't matter who wins, all that matters is that they're trying.

I just love how Microsoft is kind of making themselves the superstar here. I have always been a Google fan, but this is good stuff.

Lol. You're going to eat those words sooner than later

@@virusfrmhell as in Google exiting the market? 😉

Yeah its about time another tech giant with everything except our interests at heart stepped in. 🙄

yandex is miles ahead; try it

@@kjgbnrskvlnrl lmfao, nice one

@@jaydee1987 Exactly.

Microsoft is arguably worse than Google. They are more woke and more anticompetitive. Microsoft tried to kill Linux, plus all the Internet Explorer nonsense. Like Google, Microsoft filters results that they don't agree with. AI will be the next killer app for propaganda. Much like what happened to social media & Wikipedia, they will get people hooked on its useful utilities, then train it to comply with the narrative. They're already doing the latter, just a matter of getting the masses to trust it.

They hire real engineers. It’s the difference in the two companies.

@@Mr.Autodelete lol

Good point

Might want to read neuromancer or Snow crash might give you an idea.

If I may offer a thought: The way to understand this apparent paradox is realizing how the market economy actually functions. Briefly: The efficiency and, ultimately, the viability of the market economy is directly based on 1) The highest possible turnover of _literally anything_ which people can be made to pay for, measured monetarily, and 2) The maximum employment of people in the workforce in order to distribute all the money to be circulated. These two things are definitively what _a society_ needs in order to function economically, under the theoretical logic of a market system. However, from each _individual business'_ perspective, their incentive is simply to minimize their overall costs while maximizing their revenue; nothing else. This means that every labor saving piece of technology developed will _automatically_ be utilized by employers to minimize the need for human labor by whatever is made possible by that technology, as a direct requirement of good business management; If you don't do it, your competitor will. The only logical endgame in this competitive exploitation of technology is the ever-increasing minimizing of human labor roles. This is why "labor saving" technology, on the whole, always makes it more difficult for people to find any steady forms of employment and, hence, makes it harder and harder for the economy to function on the macro/society level. At least this is evidently true in the era we are currently living in, where most of the work actually necessary for producing basic necessities can be done by computers and machines; and this economic self-destruction is *only ever going to accelerate,* because it is a _direct consequence_ of the market economy's very operational logic. Elitist salesmen and media talking heads will never discuss this problem at all, but it is fairly simple to work it out if only you allow yourself to think outside of your prescribed box of 'growth' and 'innovation' and 'free-trade' and all the other nonsense they are always pretending will solve the world's economic predicament. They are actually making it much harder for you to understand than it should be. I think this is intentional but I guess you can make up your own mind.

basically a cyberpunk dystopia without the cool aesthetic

The word you're looking for is dark 🙃🙂🙃🙂

It could be that Google spotted significant pitfalls and it thought it still had time to safely release it’s machine learning products. As the Microsoft CEO said, Google has everything to lose but Microsoft can release risky technology because they can only grow their search…

LaMDA is years ahead of Google.

@@outofthebox9699 LaMDA is created by Google

@@outofthebox9699 LaMDA is a Google product, so it isn't years ahead of google the company.

Google's backwardness in serving the public with useful AI demonstrates that most businesses are not set up for the true welfare of people.

I'm new to stock market /Crypto and would like to invest but I've go no idea on how to make good profits. Pls what's the best approach you'd recommend?

I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

Well he already had at least two revolutionary products and a life time of experience (on stage) under his belt. That's a kind of confidence almost nobody else has today. I'm not the greatest Steve Jobs fan, just stating the obvious.

Clinical sociopaths have no sense of shame.

Actually, it kinda started as a joke, but Steve basically threw a tantrum as he got increasingly frustrated at being unable to present due to the wifi congestion in the room.

I guess it was easier for him because, it was not a problem related with the product itself, maybe someone ran torrents. In Google's case they didn't even have the product whose features they were presenting

for me its not embarrassing part on steve jobs because its only a wifi.. majority of people "relate" with wifi issues so no harm done. Only media like to over hype things. But what happened to google presentation is really embarrassing since the presentation is the answer for the rising popularity of chat-gpt/microsoft. It is really.. really embarrasing..

They can lock away features and upsell them to customers and pretty sure people would buy them if it made search queries easier. Like if it on the fly looked at all possible vendors for something applied any savings and auto filled all the billing information in a single click.

if ai uses content from the website - the website should be paid. At least bing leaves attribution link (while google doesnt) from where it got info, but still a website loses trafic this way = loses potential profits. And no profits mean zero motivation to create new content for websites.

Me intriga la parte legal o copyright? que pasara con ello?

​@@macariosanchez5640 a lot of mess

Just wait until the ads are baked into the response. Then it will get interesting.

I prefer to just not get emails to be honest.

Wow that really would be a game changer

You shouldn't be so enthusiastic about it imo. It would also mean uploading all your emails to the AI. And if the AI finds something it deems objectionable.. who knows what it might do.

@@giusepperana6354 and currently all your emails are stored….where?

Well yeah no shit, Edge is based on Chromium

Or Cortana

@@alexholiday441 halo is now a vintage/classic videogame. Cortana is an old figure now, and many people didn't get the name choice to begin with

@@hobog so is clippy lol

@@hobog facts, it’s was great while it lasted. Plus Halo isn’t doing so good as of lately

I think they knew a bit better than to do that mate

Dude! I remember comparing Zune to iPod back in the day. It was meh to me. So I spend my money on videogames instead, and I'm glad I did.

@@Mhdalzein i see you're civilised

Except that Google hasn't brushed off ChatGPT

You can't deny the quality overall - if I see a ColdFusion vid on anything I find interesting - I'm hittin' it. Not let down yet - quality prevails!!