GoPro MTB Chin Mount. Can it survive a direct hit? And is the TELESIN mount a good alternative?

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FOX PROFRAME: kit.co/MTBALAN/mtb-protection/fox-racing-fox-profr
What I used for the chin mount: kit.co/MTBALAN/mtb-video-kit
A GoPro HERO7 or HERO8 on the chin of a full-face helmet delivers some of the best POV footage you can get. It's also an elegant solution that requires minimal additional gear. By pairing GoPro's Hypersmooth image stabilization with the natural gimbal of your head, you no longer need a gimbal strapped to your chest.
No more lung restricting chest harness. No more heavy gimbal. And no more extra gimbal batteries. Just the essentials you need for filming your ride. You're going to wear a helmet when you ride...if you don't, you better start! And to film, you're going to need a camera. And attaching the camera to a full-face helmet's chin keeps the camera low enough to keep the footage immersive but not so low that it looks like the POV of a baby in your lap.
Thanks Kyle for the comparison footy!
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Also thanks @The Outsider MTB for helping me test the Telesin chin mount!
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@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Check the description for a link to the TELESIN chin mount. Also hit me with any questions you might have about mounting the GoPro on the chin. Personally, I have found this to be the best solution for how I go about filming my rides!

@nvr2old700 4 года назад

"Propensity for head-butting the earth" - a new MTB ALAN colloquialism! Love it. Nice vid Alan. Ken

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Ha! Thanks Ken!

@EpicPinoyMTB 3 года назад

Thank you for your Sugru video. Did that to my helmet chin mount and i’ve been using it for almost 2 years now and it still works and still holding up. Good job!

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Heck yeah! Thanks.

@VanGirlYuka 4 года назад

Great info Alan! I was worried about you might brake your helmet when you hit the chin mount😂

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks Yuka! And I like that you were worried. I used an old helmet for the hammer shot. 😉

@HillsOnTheRoadOfLife 4 года назад

Thank you for the idea. I ordered everything to do your style of mount on my daughter's new helmet. We are going to Sedona. Maybe I'll see you there.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Right on! Let me know if you have any questions. 👍🏽 And yeah, gimme a shout if you see me at SMF. I should have stickers too. 😁

@SmoothMTB. 3 года назад

Did this and it works great! Thanks for the tip

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Sweet!

@THESEGMENTPR 3 года назад

That was very helpful!! Okay I’m jumping on your gear site to get the chin mount set up. Thank you

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

My pleasure. Let me know how it comes out!

@THESEGMENTPR 3 года назад

I think I am going to do the glue. I just bought it from you Kit site. Love how organized your channel is. Thank you

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

👊🏾

@leviwithabike 4 года назад

I don't know why no-one likes full face helmets, There awesome, I just got one and this is helping me set it up, Thx!😀

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Right on! Glad to help. I think some people imagine riding with a DH type full-face and haven't tried something like the Proframe. I mean, they're never gonna be as comfortable as an open face, but yeah...I have had enough face smashes to warrant full-time full-face.

@wadesafool 4 года назад

Great vid man! Super entertaining and informative!

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks Wade! 👊🏽

@javzee2315 4 года назад

Pro tip: You can sand your chin bar with course grit and paper to allow the SuGru to grab harder

@DMMTB 4 года назад

Hey Alan, I followed your lead with the sugru several months ago and love the angle. I've got on a full face with detachable chin bar & I have a spare chin bar from an old same helmet that I headbutted a rock with (chin bar wasn't on) but have never gone to that option. I also bought the Telesin for my other full face but still haven't used it as the sugru one is perfect. I agree with what you say re go pro mounts under the visor & on top 100%. On the rare occasion I ride without a full face but want to film then the chesty makes an appearance. Glad you are back in the saddle & ❤️️the channel 🤘🇦🇺

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Heck yeah! Thanks man.

@yukonpeteneff 4 года назад

Which helmet with the detachable chin bar did you set up on? Thinking of buying a Super Air R. Do you think it would work on that helmet?

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Yukonpeteneff I can’t speak for DM MTB, but the Sugru will mold easily onto any shape and most surfaces. I’ve seen it work on a branch. So it should work on any helmet. 👍🏽

@DMMTB 4 года назад

@@mtb_alan agreed 👍

@TonyToretto25 4 года назад

I started with a Telesin mount on my Stage helmet. The black plastic cracked and broke pretty quickly. I taped it together to try to salvage it... But ended up doing the Sugru mount like 10 months ago. It's survived many faceplants & OTBs at the bike park & racing. Thanks for the idea Alan, it's solid AF.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Heck yeah Tony! Now stop “testing” the durability. 😆

@B1KER 4 года назад

Fun vid dude. Once my gimbals break I’ll be using your method.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks man!

@krispy8537 4 года назад

I really like this camera angle it is just the main problem with it is I don't have and don't like wearing a full-face helmet. Great Video!

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Fair enough. Thanks!

@makeanaveragemanrich1284 3 года назад

I used your method and got a mount and bought the sugru at target. I installed it and it looks clean!! Also I used 2 packs of sugru to cover it good and make it look clean

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Sweet!

@brettn4337 4 года назад

Nice follow up on your original sugru vid Alan. I just tried using one of those clip mounts (clips onto your camelbak) and the footage was garbage, although that may have been attributed to my riding. I may have to try and find some sugru and follow your method. Keep up the good work champion

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Yeah, getting good footy always takes some initial experimentation. I’ve found Sugru at Target, and I’d bet you’d find it at an arts and crafts store too.

@MTBChris 4 года назад

I got that same telesin mount but it never worked out for me. I’m using the gopro helmet mount for the chin bar and it’s working out pretty well. I can send you some pics on IG if you wanna check it out. Great vid! It’s good to see a follow up on your sculpting skills haha

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Ha! Sculpture was never my strong suite. I used the 3M double sided tape with the tripod adapter the first time, and it worked well. 👍🏽

@MrPete4az 4 года назад

I'll stick with the Sugru option. After watching your original video of how to do it, I haven't looked back. I put mine on a Bell Super R3 with a removable chin mount, so when I am done filming for the day - it all just comes off 😄🤘

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Nice! 🤘🏽

@mahki599tv 3 года назад

Very helpful video. I just got my proframe and thinking how am I going to stick my gopro. I also looked into that telesin mount but same thing with your concern. I will try that Sugru this week just waiting for my order to arrive. Thanks man.

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Right on. Do make sure you follow Sugru's instructions and wait 48 hours. I only say this because I've had a couple people tell me it doesn't work after they did stuff wrong. 😆

@BCpov 4 года назад

Sugru for the win!

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Yew! Have you tried it yet? 👀

@BCpov 4 года назад

I'm still on the zip ties atm. I'll have to find some sugru

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Ah. Got it. 👍🏽

@jacksonhodges942 4 года назад

Good vid. GoPro makes a claw that may work as well

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Interesting. 🤔

@andyginther8562 4 года назад

I love your mount setup. Films well and looks clean. I’m wondering if the gopro screw could be shorteny if you used a stand screw and use a tool to tighten? Not sure how much you adjust on the trail. Then again if it aint broke. How freaky was it to take that hammer to the helmet?

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks Andy! I actually do use a driver to tighten it up a bit...but partly because my hand is still weak. Ha! I wasn’t worried about the hammer. It was my old helmet. 😉

@mphmtb 4 года назад

Fun fact. By mounting the camera on your chin, when you lean your head into corners (this happens naturally) the camera moves in the opposite direction. This makes the viewers head tilt in the required direction minimising video sickness. Also I’m now checking out the glue. That other mount is a bit :/

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

I find that the HERO7 and HERO8 actually back processes the footy and leads movements like that. Either way, the footy definitely feels more natural and not so seasickness inducing. Yeah Sugru is pretty cool. Useful for a lot of things. I might use it add bumps to reduce chain noise.

@jweatherly26 3 года назад

I actually found 3d printed mounts made for my specific helmet, they still require a ziptie, I could sugru them on but the 3d plastic could break and leave me with a stump impossible to remove.

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Just make sure you smooth off the pointy bits of the zip ties and point them away from your face.

@AdamMock 4 года назад

This was super helpful. You have me rethinking how I capture my footage. The GoPro "bra" is just adding to my heat so I may try this out. Also, now I can't unsee the Teletubby mount. 😧

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Right on. Yeah, the teletubby look is 👌🏽😆

@ChefIan73 4 года назад

Hey Alan, I’m wondering if you’re ever concerned about the extra leverage produced by having the camera mounted there? It would seem that if you were to crash face first (which I seem to do also 🤦🏻‍♂️) the chin mount could produce a significant increase in rotational leverage on your head. Have you found that to be the case or not? I’ve always just used a chesty since my videos are 99.8% for my own personal consumption. But definitely like the POV created with the chin mount. Thanks, stay safe and shred on 🤘🏽🤘🏽

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks for the questions. I think the crash examples in this vid are good examples of the kinna crashes you’re talking about. The weight isn’t enough to make a difference in regards to rotational forces. And the mount, as shown with the hammer test, is gonna break before it’ll transfer that much force into the helmet. Hope that clarifies. 👊🏽

@nathansu3691 3 года назад

Used sugru for my FF helmet. The sugru didn't break, but the actual go pro mount broke, so now i just have a blob of sugru on my chinbar.

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Ha! Well...I guess that's kinna good...?

@azdirtlife4280 4 года назад

Love the video from a chin mount. I just sweat so much even with a half helmet 🥺

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

I hear you. I face-smash so much. 😆

@Johnnydammit 4 года назад

Awesome boss! I got the TLD helmet which comes to a point at the chin. ☹I used a 4 inch wide e tape on the chin and apoxy molded a gopro mount to it. When it dried I pulled it off, sanded and painted it. Then I used the double stick grey 3m to adhere it to the helmet! Looks sweet! It took a few hits and it's still there! And if I need to remove it all I gotta use is a heat gun. Gonna go hammer it 🤣

@Johnnydammit 4 года назад

Ok 2nd strike it popped off!🤣 what was that glue?

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Nice! Always dig me some craft.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Sugru.

@enzojacobsen4349 3 года назад

Can you make a video on how to mount a GoPro to your chin?

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Yup. Watch this vid again and check the corner link.

@nickg6312 4 года назад

hey guys. ima just point something out. when making a product sometimes we invest in something called a weak link. a part that is meant to break to protect more expensive parts. if your chin mounts break it may protect your camera or helmet from permanent damage. if you where to put a bolt through your helmet and screw on a tripod adapter on it and then that snapped off your helmet would probably break on the chin bar or screw up your camera

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Boom! Well said. Also you don't want your teeth or face bones to be the weak link either. 😆

@eriktate3010 3 года назад

Awesome video, Alan! Any recommendation for the TLD Stage helmet? I am not sure there is enough surface area for the mount you used :(

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Thanks! I think it’ll work just fine on the Stage.

@eriktate3010 3 года назад

@@mtb_alan The chin guard comes to a sharp point :( I've seen some 3D printed things that might work but I wonder how strong they are.

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

@@eriktate3010 That's the beauty of Sugru. It's totally moldable.

@thomassmith7533 4 года назад

Thanks for the great info Alan! I am also coming from a Gimbal + Gopro5 setup to the new GoPro Hero 8 Black. I am trying to decide on the chest mount vs the chin mount. You are really selling me on the chin mount. I just took a trip out to Palm Canyon with the new GoPro 8 + Chest Mount and was a little bummed that I lost some footage because the camera was pointing downward. I find it hard to line up after using the gimbal setup for a few years. What kind of angle do you have on the chin mount? Is the camera facing forward or upward a bit? Thanks so much for the help & info! :D

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Yeah getting the angle with the chest mount is tricky. On the chin, it’s about straight forward. But really it’s about doing quick runs to test and adjust and then using a sharpie or a blade to make a mark across the mount “fingers”. Hope that helps.

@thomassmith7533 4 года назад

MTB ALAN It helps thanks Alan!

@anthonyw6429 4 года назад

Do you have any experience with removable chin bar helmets and GoPro mounts like the way your doing it. Really good video I would rather not wear my GoPro bra while filming but don’t want to buy two helmets or wear full face on a trail ride in the heat . Thanks

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

I don’t but using Sugru or the Telesin to attach the mount to the chinbar that is detachable shouldn’t be very different. I know another person commented that they successfully used Sugru in their detachable one.

@cheybrook17 4 года назад

Awesome vid, even sicker hoodie, need to get one now. # foxcamo

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks Brett. I totes wore the hoody to bump my cred. 😆

@KobraKai2 3 года назад

Hey man, Ive got my proframe set up like yours i think I have teh tripod mount invesred on the chin bar tho. Either way its super secrue and looks great with teh sugru. I havent gotten out for a ride yet but sat on the bike with the helmet on to get an idea of the angle. The camera touches my chest here and there depending on my position. does this happen to you too? does it screw up the angle or video at all? any tips?

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Nice! I haven’t had it got my chest. You may have the angle too low but you’ll figure that out once you get on the bike. You can also do a quick test just rolling down the road of course. 👍🏾

@Marchand848 4 года назад

Loved your crash high lights! Little advice from an old rider: maybe spend a little more time over your rear axel when your riding so steep.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Thanks for the suggestion. That's a good technique...until it ain't. 😆

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

How old are you anyway?

@chadrichards1679 3 года назад

I did it to my helmet. Only did one layer. Did it last night around 6PM and tried to pull it off this morning and it came off....Should I do two layers and let it sit for a whole 24 hours?

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

I’d have to see how you did it. Did you watch the instructional videos on Sugru’s site? Also, I think it needs 24 hours.

@axial27 4 года назад

I have a telesin mount and so far there have been no problems with it. The plastic will most likely never poke you and the buckles move and are flat so they won't do much damage. Just make sure the blue rubber matches your helmet.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Yo! That's good to know about the Telesin. Ha! Good point on the blue rubber. 😁

@Ivory_Mist 4 года назад

It's amazing to see how much room the bike takes up when a ride is filmed at chest level. The chin mount seems to be the way to go. You still get some good views of your bike, but the viewers are actually able to focus on what you are doing, not how nice your bike looks. You might be on to something here Alan.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Right on! That’s precisely how I feel about it. And because of natural body positioning, you see the bars more when it’s steep or gnarly or flowy, and you see the bars less when there’s not much going on.

@TumorWarrior67 3 года назад

are you still using the sugru mount?

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Yup! Set it up on every helmet I've gotten. Currently using it on my Smith helmet up at Snow Summit. Ha! Just smacked it into the dirt, and it was all good. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cMtnr7ce3nA.html

@EricHollanderAcu 4 года назад

Doesn't the weight wear on your neck for trail riding? Just wearing a full face alone is hard enough for me.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

Funny. I was just talking with a buddy about the weight. I don’t actually feel the weight other than the helmet feeling more settled onto my noggin. It’s not like having it mounted under the peak or on top. Hope that helps.

@ZadeWolve 2 года назад

They is a Guy who 3D prints mounts for the Proframe that connects

@mtb_alan 2 года назад

👍🏾

@TheOutsiderMTB 4 года назад

Yarrr! Outsider take it personally when you talk smack on his personal camera POV! It like you walk up to him and pee in face! Alan hurt Outsider feelings! Outsider wish he never help Alan with camera video! To be continues!

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

LOL! It’s good pee. I hydrate with that fancy water. 😆

@uosocal 4 года назад

Very cool. I just used zip ties and electrical tape.

@mtb_alan 4 года назад

[Arnold voice] _You're one ugly mutha..._ 😁

@notapplicable6274 3 года назад

Use a hotshoe adapter🙏🔑✌️

@mtb_alan 3 года назад

Could work...but probably a coldshoe. 😉

@notapplicable6274 3 года назад

MTB ALAN hot cold it’s a screw and plate! lol Thsnks for the Sugru idea🤙Research IXS trigger ff. Nice helmet for content producers. Way cool and way light. $207 at a few...🙏🔑✌️