he didnt let go, garry escaped the grip on his hand and was going to try ease the strangle off, gordon raised is arm to stop garry reaching the strangle hand
Gary escaped his arm but Gordon hid his strangle hand under his own chin, making it inaccessible for Tonan to peel off. It’s one of the reasons it’s so important to go ear to your opponents ear when applying a RNC.
Gordan is something special. He was tonnen's student a few years ago and now look at him! Tonnen is an elite elite BJJ artist and to submit him you need to be extra special
When the student surpassed his instructor it's not a mistake that's he made ten years ago its everything thing the teacher did right ten years ago. Gordon Ryan is living proof that Gary Tonon is not only one of the greatest bjj graplers in the world but one of the greatest bjj instructors. Gordon is the finished product, props to Gary and John Danaher of course.
lol I remember meeting both these two out on a night out in Cardiff in the UK, I think it was after Polaris 2 I think. Gary and Gordon were both in the smoking area by themselves and I instantly recognised them and went all fan boy LOL. They were cool, and it was awesome to meet them, little did I know the tall dude who quietly stood there (Gordon) with Gary would one day be what he is today. I had a funny photo we posed for, but i lost it on an old phone :(
Almost equal skills but a way different physicality. Tbh it's pretty cool to see students surpassing their mentors (Craig defeating Lachlan, Pena beating the guys that defeated Rómulo and now Gordon surpassing Garry).
If you actually look at how much Gordon was relying on his physical attributes in comparison to his technical prowess you’d see this is a simple case of his teacher having done his job properly and thus producing a student better than himself. That, in conjunction with Garry actually going out with the goal of submitting Gordon and ending up rolling for an entrance into cross ashi garami that was not there, resulted in the tap.
@@kianbazarjani194 I see your point, but I've also heard Gordon has vicegrips for hands, which is hard to see, but can make all the difference in key moments.
@@Karanar what? keenan vs garry hasn't taken place in SIX years.. was all pre danaher and some was gi/points.. no-gi garry today is on another level-especially sub only (the only good ruleset).. please check the facts before making silly statements
Here's a fact. When skills are equal in Jiu Jitsu, Size and Strength DOES MATTER. And even if they aren't equal, Size still matters, but size/strength makes much more of a difference when their skills are fairly equal. Gordon is bigger and stronger and Just as good as Garry.
Size, strength, endurance and stamina always matters, no matter who is against who. Theyre always a factor, just like experience and skills are a factor.
Yes but the critical moments was decided by the tactical error on that leg lock attempt that gave up his back and Gordon’s solid fundamental to keep his knee to the floor. Both dudes are still legends ofc but Gordon is the best at what he does, at least for the time being.
Completely agree. Even if Gary is slightly better than Gordan technically, Gordan is a lot bigger and is 100% focusing on no gi. Gary also trains mma. I do think it’s weird that Gary gave his back so easily knowing how good Gordan is on the back but that was probably just a tactical error. Gordan has most likely passed Gary in submission grappling.
size and strength are not the catch all that you believe they are. Gary Tonon was not better or even equal to Gordon Ryan at this point, it's not anything against Gary, gordon ryan is literally just a grappling freak even in comparison to the greats. That's just how it is. Gordon could have been dehydrated and a week and a half into a fast and still not lost.
Why is it bad to be relaxed? Being relaxed and calm is the best way, It helps you focus and think clearly.. What do you mean by “Doing something like that?”
"I've never cried as hard as when he has to put down ole yellar in that movie..." "OK but hear me out, have you ever watched Gordon Ryan have to choke out Garry Tonnen in order to win double gold at ADCC?"
I mean he was back stepping for honeyhole and gordon countered it to be fair. And then he immediately tried to put his back to the mat but Gordon do be like dat
Dani Effendi Exactly! Gary was looking for inside leg position with his right leg, presumably to back step to saddle/honey hole. It happens so very quickly, Gordon pummels hid feet back inside, gets a shin to shin, then elevates Garry’s lead foot. Already with momentum in that direction, Garry has to take a back step to regain balance. While this leg pummeling/elevating is happening, Gordon already has his arm wrapped around Garry’s right thigh. Even if Garry had inside position, which he didn’t, Gordon’s left arm would deny the entry to saddle. You can see this around 0:06. Garry already knows this isn’t good and is trying to bail out, but Gordon keeps control and works towards the back. The entire sequence takes about 2 seconds and shows how well these guys know each other’s game.
2:14 right arm underhook -> left wrist control to feed to right hand -> Leg isolates left arm. That move was fucking SLICK! The beauty of it is that Garry knows EXACTLY what Gordon is trying to do but still can't stop it!
Gordon is the best grappler but Garry is the most fun to watch. Garry's matches are always amazing and even my friends who don't know BJJ can get into watching Garry's matches
I took a leglock seminar with Gary Tonon and Eddie Wolverine Cummings together in California when they were competing in EBI. They had a few teammates with them. A Korean guy and an Italian lady. I got a Gary Tonon t-shirt. Also have an instructional by Gary Tonon and Eddie Wolverine Cummings. Got all of John Danaher's leglock instructionals too along with his other sets.
@@aplus1080 So the Italian girl is the one on the Gordon Ryan instructionals? Someone just told me today she's a bodybuilder type and competes in submission grappling and maybe MMA. I speak Italian so I was talking to her in Italian.
@@davidtice4972 - sounds like you met Eddie Cummings girlfriend, not Natalia - I think her name is Ottavia. She's Italian - you can hear her cornering in some of Eddies matches.
@@letstalkcaliber704 My point is that Garry had next to zero chance of winning this. Gordon said it himself in a podcast that the match was a reflection of how their sparring sessions go usually. Size disadvantage plus knowledge of the matchup. Romulo and Roger fought it out in the 2009 Worlds even though they were from the same team. Romulo immediately jumped guard. I didnt see anyone call bullshit there ''Oh did you just jump guard against the best pressure passer in history? Come on mahhhhhn.'' Its not like he had a choice, much like Garry here. He knew he couldnt take Gordon down, couldnt leg lock him and couldnt play guard against him.
everyone's talking about the size advtange. Obviously that's a factor, but this was very much a highly technical approach and finish by gordon. It was perfectly executed and beautiful.
Student tapping out teacher. Well he knows all of his teacher’s tricks. Tonon looks so old now. He was so young when he went against Ron Gracie back in the days (one of the best match in bjj)
@@hardone316 yep, and also gordon was so aware of that saddle entry and immediately defended by crossing his legs, forcing tonon to try and defend the backtake
Bjj is meant for defense vs bigger dudes but when the bigger dude is a bjj beast also hahaha plus that idiot gave his back to Gordon thinking he can have fun stupid ass
Kalle Pikku first who’s “they”? Second, a bigger trained jiu Jitsu athlete likely beats a smaller trained athlete. A non trained bigger athlete cannot beat a small trained athlete. Attributes matter when both are highly skilled. Not to mention the fact that you’re talking about Gordon Ryan who is the best of this generation of jiu Jitsu athletes
In a recent UFC event Alex Olivera tapped to Randy Brown to a 1 arm rear naked choke and the commatary team were kinda confused and said people don't tap to a one arm RNC , they said you gotta have the second arm locked in as well. Well here is the perfect example that if your song enough and know what your doing than yes you can tap your opponent with a 1 arm RNC.
2:45 mins in, Gordon uses his left hand to pry Garry's nose up just enough to slip the hand under the chin. After that, he walks his finger tips up the right shoulder AND uses his head for leverage. I've spent some time here and had success even as a blue belt. Good stuff!
What the other guys said, he is using the opposing force of his elbow rotating up and his chest puffing out to complete the choke; technique not strength
W Baldwin Bro, don’t be delusional. His transformation was abrupt. Just look at his girlfriend; she’s a bodybuilder who is notably juicing (ie. Masculine traits). I couldn’t care less but don’t see the need of being self-delusional
W Baldwin he was already in his prime, training everyday, with the strictest training and life routine, immediately prior to getting jacked. Nothing to be shamed about; pretty much everyone in the Bjj and no gi competition circuit is juicing.
It’s not uncommon for people who train together to go light in a match when they’re forced to face off so they can conserve the winners energy for the next match
He is like Marcelo Garcia I think. Gordon is a great grappler but might not be good in MMA because of ground n pound. Would like to see his transition to MMA and see if he can be the next Maia or something. Dillion’s transition was good just curious about Gordon in MMA.
He didn't give it. Gordon took it. Start watching at :09 and take position and weight into account. LIke someone who knows jiu-jitsu would. At least with the commentator you can chalk it up to a bad angle or lack of focus.
@W Baldwin 100%, but it starts much before that. At 0:09 you see Gary try to backstep and Gordon immediately posts his right arm to prevent it. Gordon then changes the post to a waist grab and pulls Garry with both arms. That constant pulling pressure and tight ride is why Garry looks immobilized. Once Garry stands up and Gordon pivots to his backside, that's when Garry knows he's threatened with a crab ride or eventual back take. So while Gordon is falling back to initiate the back take, Garry attempts the kneebar before Gordon has full leg or upperbody control. Garry didn't give up his back, he simply made a counter move that exposed it and Gordon countered so that he couldn't regain positioning.
Garry went for a reverse Ashi Garami. It's a battle for grips. If you can maintain a grip on their lower legs, it's difficult for them to create actual back exposure. Gordon broke him down into an unathletic position with control around Garry's hips. The moment Garry lost the grips he had to defend. If you're thinking that move is too risky you need to remember the alternative is to try to guard pass from an inside position the 200 lb #1 no gi grappler
They're almost IMPOSSIBLE! I've trained with guys who took my back and body-triangled me, and all I could do was literally defend a choke for 3 minutes just to finish the round and survive. It's almost impossible to get out of a really tight body-triangle without desperate measures such as poking someone in the eye. In a sporting MMA event, it's very tough. The best strategy is probably not to get there in the first place.
@@danielt.4330 indeed very hard but if you are very flexible and can get your lets up high enough. You can hook one leg and swing your legs up to kinds grab that triangled foot.
The counter is to ankle lock the foot that is across your body. Swing your foot over the straight leg of his triangle and make sure it is against the ground so he can’t unhook it and then apply force with your foot backwards and hips forward to attempt to break his ankle if the ankle pops out then it’s fine too cause you are now out of the body triangle, so either you break his ankle or you get out of the body triangle both are good. Of course with both arms defend against the choke the whole time
