The idea the Gork and Mork are just having a never ending WWE wresting match with the entire chaos realm as the ring - while the chaos gods just unable to stop it - is both hilarious to visualize and stays lore accurate. The Bad Moon follows them around and shouts about it like the announcer. This is now my head cannon.
I like this idea of Gork and Mork just constantly fighting through the warp going through the 4 chaos gods' territory and them just watching on like we watch a tornado passing, hoping they don't get too close
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I image Nurgle, siting in his garden peacefully as ge create new dieseses. Then boom, gork and mork bust through the wall, and start fighting each ither. Mork acidently kick over the pot of dieseses. Then they leave like nothing happend.
@@komiks42 While slaanesh is busy having torture sex with some random demon only for the 2 to barge in while fist fighting only to push over said bed slaanesh was using, and in stun silence watches as both of them to move on only to look around at the destroyed house, and furniture.
Mork is brutally cunning - which means he hits you when you're not looking. Gork is cunningly brutal - which means he hits you HARDER when you are looking.
Bullshit, Mork's brutal cunning would mean he knows the value of hitting as hard as you can when you're not looking, and if they's not looking, then yous can hit em even harder cause theyz not gonna stop ya
On the topic of if Gork and Mork are the strongest Gods, I feel the easiest way to view it is that they are a physical representation of the Orks themselves. As individuals, they are little more than fodder, but if all the Orks ever worked together, nothing could really stop them. Same with Gork and Mork; individually, Gork or Mork could never stand up to someone like Khorn but if they worked together they would be unbeatable. However, that would require them to stop fighting each other and if there is one thing an Ork can't do, it's stop fighting. In short, it would mean that Gork and Mork could destroy everything if they ever realised the power of friendship.
You can say the same about the chaos gods, A lot of people think that the emperor is fighting the 4 of them in a 4 vs 1 battle but the truth is that its more of a 5 way fight of everyone vs everyone, if the gods stopped fighting and worked together they could squash the emperor with ease.
there was that one bit in an older ork codex about how Gork and Mork were bored and found a cave where the most abonimable and bloodthirsty beast was laying. And they beat the shit out of it leaving it in a pool of it's own blood, almost dead That beast was Khorne
I dislike the thing where like people say that Gork is more physically strong with melee while Mork is associated with ranged I prefer it and it's funnier if they're literally the same
My head canon for 40k is that when the Necrons went away and the Eldar were becoming the dominant species, their only obstacles were the Krorks which while yes they could just use their own Gods in battle, they could not manage to exterminate them. Therefore it is my theory that the Eldar used their mastery of divinity and manipulation to make the orks create/ split their existing God into Gork and Mork. I also believe the psychic backlash of their creation and inevitable fight between the two gods increased the Krorks tendency for infighting, making managing them way easier on the Eldar. The ork constant infighting while hilarious, does not make sense in the purpose of their creation. I sincerely doubt that the almost omniscient Old ones, while trying to make the universe sturdiest and most efficient canon fodder would overlook such a defect. If your frontline soldiers start going at each other's throats the moment their leader dies, that is not really good when you are facing undying robots with reality warping masters that can literally turn armies into dust. However, the Eldar messing with things built by the Old Ones out of a thirst for power and arrogance is 100% in character for them. So to me like many other things, it's the Eldar's fault.
@@haroldsandahl6408 aren't they already tied to the T'au? I thought that there was evidence that somebody had tampered with/uplifted the T'au between when they were first discovered by Imperium explorers (when they were effectively cavemen) and when they were rediscovered a thousand or so years later after the warp storms died down and that also the T'au's tech for traveling in space looked to be based on old outdated human tech that fell by the wayside once warptravel became a thing. Now which race would have access to human tech so old the Imperium had forgotten it and would have the need for chaos resistant pawns due to a man(or elf)power shortage?
Nah I can totally see the old ones making this a "fail safe" to avoid the Korks killing everyone, that the second they no longer had a big bad external threat they would turn on themselves, I also like the concept that the Korks let themselves go to the point of turning into the Orks, having the eldar do it not only cheapens the Korks who already don't have a lot going for them, and takes the agency from them, but it's fitting for the eldar to solve the threat that way I'll admit
I honestly think of the Krorks as having a personality similar to custodes. Violent but professional and possibly fairly intellectual since they were completely self sufficient in every way and largely just following orders of the old ones
I like to think of them as the brutes from halo, as smart as everyone else, physically as if not more than everyone else, but with a tendency to just snap and go ape mode. And Orks are just the ape mode with almost none of the other parts
@@voidwalkerbruh7426I think is because Isha is or was(I don’t know) a prisioner of nurgle, and being a prisioner of nurgle is not a pleasant think, I think you can imagine why.
reminder that gork and mork are the 2 missing primarchs. they were too good at fighting the enemies of the imperium and got so invested in battles that the emperor eventually lost track of them and next thing he knew he found them being worshipped by the orks as gods for fighting so good. the rest is history
@@Rayman-kddz2nah, the 2 missing primarchs have little to no lore about them other than that Rogal and Guillisuit helped decide to wipe them from the history books, and took on some of their space marines into their own legions.
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I don’t know if you can actually see how long I’ve been enjoying your content, but it’s been from the beginning! But this one really takes the cake for me so far! I have not laughed so hard over a video in a long time! This is epic! Thank you!
My theory is that Gork and Mork are like Sangunious (wrong name I know but we all know our favorite angel boi) in that he is the Kork inside of Trayzns museum. The two share similarities that some part of them still is alive to a degree via some part staying in Stasis, the Kork is ‘alive’ but probably isn’t allowed what is to keep him alive: fight’n. Now over time once all the Korks are dead and it’s just Orks this guy survived and basically could still communicate and so on to a degree in some form; while probably damaged by his own time being in status since since creatures can still be aware during it. After a while the Orcs basically made him or at least his fragmented mind into two gods that are both the same in a sense. This is similar to Horus during ‘slaves to darkness’ we see that there are multiple fragments of Horus’ soul. This is similar to the Emperor in a a few ways. In theory Horus couldn’t return to his clone because above 50% of his soul was destroyed to a degree. This is similar to the Alpha legion’s primarch. They are two souls and apparently the one that died had his soul shattered and scattered throughout his legion. So I’m curious if the Kork is the god, what happens if the gods flesh body is returned to activity? I can imagine the deceiver pulling some stuff and then having to fight the Ork god if this is the case. Add to the Orks already in the collection.
in dawn of war 1 winter assault the warboss wants to take general sturn's skull to put on his pointy stick, id like to think khorne shotblocked gork and mork to take his soul for this
Nah. Khorne wants people who offer skulls up to him. Gorgutz on the other hand just put them on his own trophy rack for entertainment purposes and bragging rights.
Pancreas, I'm curious. Do you think GW should do a series on the war in heaven like they did with the horus heresy? or no because the power scaling gets silly?
Have to say I enjoyer your delivery and scripting for this one. Some past videos have been interesting, but I've admittedly had some difficulty following them. Here, I was able to follow everything better!
The most competent gods in the setting. They make sure their followers are living their best lives, they bless them with psychic abilities to let them WAAAGH better and they reincarnate their people so they can keep krumping for all eternity. This is why its best to go green.
So Isha is the goddess of harvest, growth, fertility, life, nature and healing. Orcs are constantly growing, reproducing mushrooms that heal incredibly well... Is Isha secretly the goddess of the orcs?
'Ate pointy ears 'Ate Spikey boys 'Ate stunties 'Ate Humies ... Well not really, they do put up a good krumpin. Love me gods Love me dakka Love me shootas Love me fast boyz Simple As.
Considering that the eldar were also made by the old ones specifically to fight the necrons much like the Krorks, I wouldn't be surprised if the Eldar Gods were originally intelligent warp weapons intended primarily to be levelled at the C'Tan since their one weakness is warp chicanery. Once the old ones died/left and the necrons threat was dealt with, the Eldar gods didn't just stop existing either, so being worshipped as part of a pantheon of religious figures would be about the only way to "decommission" them safely.
I always interpreted the lore as to suggest that Orks have their own unique version (or segment) of the warp. Hence, comparing their "Gods" would be like comparing a boxing champ to a MMA champ. Despite both being fighters, they aren't really compatible to "fight."
Mork and Gork being the strongest 40K gods would help explain why Orks just stick to worshiping the strongest gods and they don't have time for any of the lesser gods. Given their nature they likely show up where another god is, beat up that god for a good laugh, but then move on because beating up a weaker god quickly gets boring. Maybe if that god gets stronger then they will come back and give it a good krumping.
Another explanation for why they say they are so powerful in combat in the warp is because...they are powerful JUST in combat. Like if Gork and Mork come at your door and start punching you then even if you're a god of chaos you will take a beating but if you, for example, arrange a big obvious whole in the ground Gork and Mork will fall down that hole into the depths of Slaanesh's bathwater factory or something. You don't directly fight them, you use cartoon tricks to beat them.
This is naturally hilarious considering orks are involved and the mental image of two ork gods, looney toons dust fight barreling into the chaos god’s living room and destroying the furniture and everything cracks me up
You and Gajin Goomba spreading the Ork gospel. As someone who whose favorite faction is the Orks (but I don’t play 40k because I don’t want to choose which bills to pay), I appreciate this.
I wonder if the glowing green skeletons start “waking up” Would that mean the orks would start “waking up?” Old genes and instinct starts activating and slowly starts evolving into kroks
I imagine that even Orks that prefer Mork still call it Gork and Mork, because that's what everyone else calls it and having to devote mental energy toward memorizing a different way to refer to the Great Big Mushrooms is just time spent not fightin'.
One will hit you then yell, another yell first then hit you later. The best religion in the universe. Straight to the point, or whatever pointy things they have on hand.
This description makes it sound like Gork and Mork (or Mork and Gork) are the most cunning of the gods. They plan to fight everyone...and it happens. Not even Tzeentch has a success rate that high.
**Dozens of lore facts saying Chaos Gods are the Strongest** 40K fans: Nah that's just Chaos Wank **One Piece of Lore indirectly implying Gork and Mork are Strongest** 40K fans: Yup that's definitive proof
I think the Krork god was probably Gorkamork, or Gorkamorka. Why? Because you can easily imagine writing that says "Gorkamork" being damaged such that it reads "Gorka'mork" which to the Ork brain is "Gork and Mork". It's entirely possible that the split into two gods was from when the Eldar were at their most powerful and trying to figure out how to deal with the Krork. The Gods all looked at each other, and Cegorach went "I've got a fun prank to try." And messed with a tiny bit of their religious text, the Krork/Ork belief into being did the rest. As soon as they went from one god to two, their god had someone to fight who was just as powerful and thus discord was sown among the fun guys of 40K. Why are they fighting? Because they have to find out who is the best, and the way Orks decide who is the best is by brawling. Thus their gods are constantly brawling, and the only reason they don't wipe out other gods is because they are too busy doing their own shit. If Gorkamork returned, it would be akin to the entire Eldar pantheon returning and thus giving their species an immense power boost. GW don't want that to happen, despite threatening to bring 40K to the End Times, because Gorkamork and Ghazgull's Waaagh will sweep the galaxy. The only force that could stand against it being the Necrons if they actually follow the Silent King, or potentially the Tyranids because the Hive Mind is that damn busted. I'm still waiting to find out the Nids are actually another Old One creation, but were intended to be a kind of time capsule or reservoir of genetics that could eventually be cracked open to reseed the universe, only they went wrong and instead of taking samples of all the biomass, they took all the biomass. This is supported by the fact a lot of the Catachan native life forms have similarities to Tyranids despite Tyranids supposedly originating from beyond the Milky Way.
I personally believe that gork and mork had a different forme back during Kroc times. I lovingly call this slaughter god Krorca'morkgorka. God of being cunningly brutal, and brutally cunning.
Gork - Will fight you head to head %90 of the time, but 1 out of every 10 times he takes a more kunnin' approach and ambushes you, and he does this infrequently enough for it to be surprising every time. Mork - Prefers to ambush you every chance he can get with every dirty trick in his green little book... but sometimes will do a brutal head-on charge just to mix things up and do the thing least expected of him keeping himself unpredictable, and sometimes because it is the most effective thing to do at the time as to not be over complicated for its own sake, Tzeentch. It's up to you to believe in whichever break from the norm is funnier, personally, Mork is funnier to me so all my Orks are Mork believers over Gork, though the Gorkanaut gets a pass.
I will say it every where I can: Abstrukt Orkism This ideology taught me to look at both of these beautiful fungus in the same way as Ying and Yang, only violent. Part of Mork is in Gork and part of Gork is in Mork, because they are fundamental forces in balance. The symbolism is even a Purple and Red Ork (Cunning and Brutal) wrestling each other, in a pose that gives each 50% of the sign but spills a little red into the purple and a bit of purple into the red.
2:52 I _highly_ approve of your interpretation of Isha as an anime waifu. And now, back to cockney sentient mold gods. Edit: Technically that's a vtuber, but that image is pure anime.
I like to think the whole "Chaos Gods vs Gork 'n Mork," thing can be settled like this: On their own, an individual God cannot beat the twins. Like you said, they just beat the shit out of them on accident. However, when Chaos comes together they can handily lay the smackdown on the pair by dint of both 4v2 and the whole Chaos Undivided thing. What stops them from doing so all the time is what stops Gork and Mork from doing the same: they fucking hate each other. It takes an event of universe quaking magnitude for the Four to work together, and it's happened exactly once in the current timeline. Not Chaos wank, but the Gods are shown as being powerful. Gork and Mork have their day, but they're not indisputable. Everyone wins.
If you want to play a big Apocalyspe game with Trojan-War style divine intervention, the Ork player should be allowed to do a kickboxing match with their opponent every turn
