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@pattonramming1988 Год назад

What's the title of the outro theme? Also cane we have more history of the Noldor

@eneasihopoi9786 Год назад

Have you done a video on arathorn, father of Aragorn?

@mediaman271 Год назад

@@pattonramming1988 Roaming the Fields by Kyle Preston

@Thorrnn 15 дней назад

I used to love syntax wars

@Erebusdidnothingwrongish 8 дней назад

This aged perfectly. What's a Star Wars?

@traviscummings9178 Год назад

Whoever decided to give the Balrog in Fellowship of the Ring a roar like a crackling flame instead of a more traditional roar definitely deserves a raise. Still gives me goosebumps whenever I hear it

@JohnyAngelo Год назад

It was depicted very well indeed in the trilogy. Original and yet true to the book. And Gandalf saying "This foe is beyond any of you." with Legolas looking scared knowing far too well, what balrog is, is one of my favorite scenees/quotes from the trilogy.

@roddo1955 Год назад

You can just 'hear' the heat.

@rogueascendant6611 Год назад

Like a burning furnace

@Mechadondada Год назад

I seem to remember the foley artists dragged cinderblocks on concrete to create that sound. It’s brilliant.

@Xrskppn Год назад

@@Mechadondada boom yes that’s it. Cinderblocks never sounded so cool 🎉

@wouter.de.ruiter Год назад

Their master is beaten, but do the Balrogs give up? Oh no! They patiently wait 4000 years until they hear from him again and what is the first they hear? A cry for help, because Morgoth got into a bit of trouble with a giant spider. So they rush to rescue him. Gotta give it to the Balrogs: they are loyal, patient, and always ready to help their friends. Not bad character traits.

@randomshittutorials Год назад

If they were free I would commend them. I'd say they are rather consumed by darkness.

@Blessed_V0id Год назад

@@randomshittutorialsThey were free. By their own choice they choose to serve Melkor. It is this very statement that is the hypocrisy of Alluvitar. You are free to serve me, in how I want, in a cruel and uncaring world. Let Lord Morgoth burn it all away, Sauron never understood his philosophy

@lachlanparker570 11 месяцев назад

Ironically more virtuous than Elrond (at least in the live-action movies), who was a heartless prick at times.

@universalflamethrower6342 8 месяцев назад

@@Blessed_V0id that is not Hypocrisy at all, there is no life without Eru, because he is the source and without the source you will eventually die. A tree without roots will die. So creatures are free to choose to acknowledge this reality or not. When Creatures like Maiar choose to not serve Eru they choose Death and are irredeemable because they have perfect knowledge of the consequences. However creatures with bodies do not fall into this category, they do not have perfect knowledge and can repent of their actions precisely because they have mortal bodies who have limited existence. For us it is never too late to repent, we can even repent and be baptized on our deathbeds.

@feliciaf8 8 месяцев назад

@@Blessed_V0id what hypocrisy, and u can't even wrote his name right

@adpirtle Год назад

Ecthelion's slaying of Gothmog with the spike of his helmet has to be one of the most epic things Tolkien ever wrote.

@emoishguy08 Год назад

Killing Gothmog in general is epic as f-k. He had quite the roster of First Age High Elves on his kill count.

@benjaminallen3371 Год назад

Maybe in a television adaptation of the Fall of Gondolin, Turgon could kill Gothmog instead of seeking refuge in a tower.

@jessemillan1385 Год назад

I wonder if the Balrog that gandalf fought is Gothmog reincarnated.

@ujjwalkaushik4664 Год назад

@@jessemillan1385 no

@ecthelionofthefountain8267 Год назад

Thank you!

@itsatrap1017 Год назад

Fëanor really got on such a gamer roll of taking players down that he didn’t notice he was approaching an enemy spawn zone.

@tommythetrain4288 3 месяца назад

Right! Just kept going!!

@TomLaios Год назад

Gothmog just reeks of badassery. When he was a snarky teenager he was known as Emog.

@jmpsthrufyre 5 месяцев назад

He was probably a goth/emo

@adrianalvarez8163 3 месяца назад

Lol

@wesspect 7 дней назад

he was never the same after he wandered into the lands of Hottopic

@MrARock001 10 месяцев назад

It's interesting to consider Orc culture seeing the Balrogs as ancient heroes who defeated their ancient foes at Gondolin, and naming their babies after them.

@joshuastrittmatter4188 3 месяца назад

I never even thought of that before! That’s an amazing observation for why that one orc was named Gothmog.

@EmblemParade Год назад

It's important to remember that Sauron and the balrogs were kin (fallen Maiar), and thus it's easy to imagine a rivalry of sorts between Sauron and Gothmog, as well as peer respect and loyalty. The death of Gothmog paved the way for Sauron's rise. The true homology of "Melkor and the balrogs" would be "Sauron and the Nazgûl". Sauron was not powerful enough to corrupt his peers, but could corrupt humans.

@danielhamilton351 Год назад

Only Sauron did corrupt his peer in Saruman.

@uwesca6263 Год назад

@@danielhamilton351 but saruman was not at the height of his power. And both of them served aule. Maybe they had some sort of history together before sauran swore alliance morgoth

@danielhamilton351 Год назад

@@uwesca6263 it doesn't matter. The OP said Sauron didn't have the power to corrupt his own kind. I just refuted that with a clear example of Sauron corrupting his own kind.

@jeremywilliams5107 Год назад

Melkor/balrogs Sauron/Nazgul is a nice analogue I hadn't considered. Thanks... Now as to Sauron not being able to corrupt his peers, FWIW I think he could have. Tolkien refers to Arda as being almost 'Morgoths Ring', as though his power had been transferred into Middle Earth. My opinion: Sauron was able to use this, possibly because he was the only one who understood the principle. The balrogs and dragons were fairly solitary creatures after the overthrow of Morgoth, not seeking rule, possibly because they were in some way subject to and directed by the will of Melkor and were a bit lost as to what to do afterwards. But not Sauron; and therefore other fallen Maiar would have been susceptible to his will.

@istari0 Год назад

Sauron may not have been a Vala but he was extraordinarily powerful and was Melkor/Morgoth's lieutenant long before the Fall of Gondolin and just like all creatures, Maia are individuals with varying levels of abilities. It's just that prior to Morgoth's defeat in the War of Wrath, he was the one who had corrupted assorted Maia to his service and afterwards there were no uncorrupted Maia in Middle-Earth until the Istari arrived.

@adpirtle Год назад

I enjoyed the early concept of Gothmog as Morgoth's son, but on balance I'm glad Tolkien changed that.

@7yep4336dfgvvh Год назад

Why

@adpirtle Год назад

@@7yep4336dfgvvh For the same reason I am glad Eönwë didn't end up being Manwë's son. It makes the Valar feel too earthly.

@7yep4336dfgvvh Год назад

@David Pirtle kind of. But you do have nephilims in the Bible though and even Jesus was given birth to the old fashioned way

@SamVagyok 11 месяцев назад

@@7yep4336dfgvvh he was born in the human sense but was immaculately conceived. He is not to be confused with Nephilim, who are products of demons and human women.

@jakermaker9697 Год назад

Still love the imagery of his battle over the fountain in Gondolin with Ecthelion! It is seriously one of the paragraphs that made me fall in love with Tolkien’s legendarium beyond the movies back in the early 2000s

@LegaretoXIV Год назад

There is something really nice about the fact that killing a Balrog always come with a great sacrifice (life) and also linked to a great fall in the abyss and/or fountain (fallen maia are killed by a great fall). Well, one does not simply kill a balrog. Great video as always!👍👍👍👍

@johndododoe1411 8 месяцев назад

Same for killing other Maiar . Sauron's death came with the fall of both Gollum and Mt. Doom, who killed him together . Saruman's death came with the death of Grima (his killer) .

@Goodbutevilgenius Год назад

The "Melkor VS Manwë" art at 1:32 is awesome.

@NerdoftheRings Год назад

It's indeed EPIC!

@Shaynerification Год назад

Does that art piece take place during the First War in Arda?

@user-yn6eu7xc5i Месяц назад

Very nice looking art in itself, but this is a very interesting Tolkien myth question I've always wondered about and seen so many different versions of floating around and depicted... I've never gotten the impression that the Valar had that Aladdin's-giant-genies, Christianity-based-imagery type of classic God-in-the-clouds forms such as that artwork depicts, and though they could definitely take different forms, shrink and expand in size and many other powerful transformations, all in all the most probable faithful rendition style that remains the most consistently fitting with the many epochs and ages worth of events in the literature, is depicting them as enormous humanoids clad in great physical armors and clothes befitting demi-Gods (albeit exquisitely and magically created/imbued, far above what elves or men could craft), and obviously with incredible powers of numerous kinds allowed to them, which seems to be their Tolkien-intended rendition and form as he originally meant, by all accounts. This was also the visual impression I first got when I read the Silmarillion, Hobbit and LotR books in the late 90's even before the first movies came out, and then only afterward saw the Jackson production's depicted versions. Such impressively large (relative to men and elves) but still more terrestrial-scale physicalized forms overall are far more congruent to reconcile with the lore and events, and also with the "physics" of Arda as how beings tend to manifest, even when the Valar/Maiar were battling other fallen Valar/Maiar directly in some of the great God-on-God wars of the earlier ages. This more "large humanoid" consistency also holds up quite regularly throughout the ages in the direct interactions between any of the Ainur and elves/men, who on many an occasion could actually go toe-to-toe and even win or often wound the fallen Ainur, something that would be impossible if they were or even could easily switch to some kind of giant-floaty-genie God-like form.

@joshuastanek3317 Год назад

Considering that the wizards, Sauron, and the Balrogs are all Maiar, I'd be very interested in an explanation of the diversity of Maiar appearances and traits in Middle Earth.

@ZENmud Год назад

The Balrogs seem to have mutated, towards an outer "skin" more nearly asbestos than human flesh...

@LordMortanius Год назад

The Balrogs became permanently incarnate in their current forms. The Istari were Maiar bound to a single human form. Sauron retained his innate power and was only crippled in that he could not assume a fair, deceptive form after Numenor. It's why Balrogs and the Istari could permanently die, while Sauron's defeat required the destruction of all his power and his fortress falling on him - his spirit is then permanently dispersed and reduced to a minor spirit of malice.

@danielhamilton351 Год назад

@@LordMortanius the Maiar do not permanently die. They are immortal spirits. That's the nature of being immortal. As a matter of fact, no created being by Eru permanently dies. The physical body dies but not the spirit.

@LordMortanius Год назад

@@danielhamilton351 The Balrogs are perma-dead. Even Morgoth was executed and hurled into the void. Sure, Sauron exists as a minor, ourobouros-like diminished spirit, but he's effectively gone for good. The balrogs don't even have the comfort of having their spirits mentioned. If you subscribe to Draugluin and Thuringwethil being Maiar, they too are dead and haven't been mentioned since. For all intents and purposes, they're dead.

@davidlundquist1979 Год назад

@@LordMortanius You're taking things that were merely implied and treating them as hard and fast rules. From what I can see, Tolkien was not big on strict rules for anything. The powers his various godlike beings had, and the exact nature of their existence, were always in service to the narrative, not vice versa.

@pandoraeeris7860 7 месяцев назад

So Morgoth and Gothmog walk into a goth club...

@brandscape356 Год назад

Gotta love the old "Lost Tales" version of the Fall of Gondolin, for having more detail about Ecthelion and the Balrog, as much as it doesn't really fit in with the later conception of the legendarium.

@talesoftheeldar8688 Год назад

Noldor king kill count: Morgoth 2(finwe and fingolfin) Gothmog 2 (Fingon Feanor) Sauron 1 (gilgalad) Touer 1 (tugon)

@michaelwhitney8326 Год назад

Can we take a short moment to agree how creepy and unlike the books the Balrog in the 1978 version is. 😂

@loonowolf2160 Год назад

Indeed, the unscary balrog that would make you yawn and get bored and stay like this🗿 from someone that is not scary at all

@OscyJack- Год назад

@@loonowolf2160 by that standard, gandalf, saruman, all of the races of man and elf would be considered non-scary. So, I have to disagree :).

@loonowolf2160 Год назад

@Oscyjack well that wuite interesting and gonna agree with you mate, and yes your saying the truth has for me I never watched this thing of 50 years ago, I'm a 2001 boy sl tf I know of this other trash show, that there is narrator that talk on third person has well... is stupid

@Darkstar_Dayne Год назад

@@OscyJack- But Balrogs are supposed to be scary regardless of their original forms

@OscyJack- Год назад

@@Darkstar_Dayne that's my point. In any form, they are scary. Just like melian, gandalf, saruman, etc. All are scary by definition, or, in the case of the elves, fell. Even the beautiful anatar was scary. Looks don't infer the scariness or power of a being in Tolkien's world, in other words.

@_sssnips 3 месяца назад

How amazing JRRT really was....to create not only the trilogy of all trilogies, but to have so much amazing backstory and characters bloody hell leaves you starving for more!!!

@Nuck-Fo0bZz Год назад

All this art is just INCREDIBLE! Just looking at all of it and listening gives me goosebumps.

@claytonhosty9876 Год назад

Thank you for this amazing video on Gothmog, servant of Morgoth. Not many videos exist on this subject. Interesting!👍

@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle Год назад

Thanks for this ! The balrogs always fascinated me when I first read the silmarillion when I was young. I was really happy to see The fall of Gondolin released as a full book so many years later. I’d love to see that as a movie

@Filya-chan 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for supporting artists!

@nataliefaust7959 Год назад

Great vid as always, Matt. I always appreciate the diversity in artwork you choose to use! ♥

@RichardF0503 Год назад

A Video about @AdmiralBulldog Pog

@Edward-W Год назад

Goodness... The arwork showcased in this episode is incredile. Thank you for sharing. I'll make sure to follow these incredible artists

@TFM123 Год назад

One of the coolest characters in fantasy. A lot of people usually think of Durin's Bane, but Gothmog is the most powerful of the Balrogs. Gothmog was even considered very close to Sauron in terms of ranking in Morgoth's army.

@Drew151Proof Год назад

love Tolkien. and you did a great job narrating this. thank you! the Elves who fought these demons must have been the bravest middle earth ever saw

@HammerdownProtocol Год назад

Great presentation as always, Matt.

@trapsquatch4937 Год назад

This video is awesome!!! Do you already have in depth videos of the fall of Gondolin? If not, they should be high on your list! 🤘🤓

@MrKurtank Год назад

Mna, as ever this presentation was fascinating and the visual pairing is spot -on. Thank you!!

@shehansenanayaka3046 10 месяцев назад

Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. Love from Sri Lankan fan of you.

@wardaddy6595 Год назад

@1:52, Waiting 4000 years for the Boss to show up. Yeah, I've been in meetings like that!

@franz-georgleopold-pagel3018 Год назад

I really enjoy getting to know Middleearth thtough your videos. Can you sometimes make a ranking/powerchart?

@APOutdoors1 Год назад

These videos are so helpful as I’m reading through the Simarillion for the first time. Thanks.

@donovanbradford8231 Год назад

Great video and always enjoy hearing videos like this

@leonardofaber5823 Год назад

Great video, man. Congratulations!

@TheBittersweetFox Год назад

One of the best scenes in filmography: YOU! SHALL NOT! PASS! Every time I see that scene I am sooooooo out of this world.

@devildante9 Год назад

It's such a shame that they made Gandalf shout his speech instead of chanting it, it makes it almost impossible to hear clearly if you don't have subtitles enabled. It's the most awesome part of that scene, if you are paying attention at Gandalf's words.

@drpants9015 Год назад

It's a little-known fact the Gothmog is actually the one who suggested Morgoth give the balrogs wings, but Morgoth thought that was a stupid idea, and refused.

@Sephiroth144 Год назад

Gothmog: Man, if we had wings, we'd be so awesome! And we could ruckus those Eagles, go out everywhere, it'd be great! Melkor: ... nah. Gothmog: Dick.

@FenrirRagnulf Год назад

@@Sephiroth144 you explained that like a 12 year old girl looking for likes.

@istari0 Год назад

@@Sephiroth144 Actually, the version I heard has Melkor saying "I'm saving those for the Dragons" to which Gothmog replies "The what?"

@animeyukiomalayalam6882 Год назад

@@istari0 All of these versions are so funny 😂😂

@sr71silver Год назад

You know something I've always found odd is the insistence that Balrogs don't have wings when Tolkien explicitly states in Fellowship that they do. Immediately following Gandalf's "You cannot pass" speech. "The Balrog made no answer. The fire in it seemed to die, but the darkness grew. It stepped forward slowly on to the bridge, and suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and ITS WINGS were spread from wall to wall;" Now I suppose that could have simply been the "shadow about it" if you really want to stretch it. But it seems pretty unambiguous to me. I just don't understand how people can be so adamant about the Balrogs being wingless when the text on the page directly contradicts that view. Plus they're all Maiar, and thus shapeshifters.

@user-hh6xi4ij9c 3 месяца назад

bruh,they are some of Morgoth’s most powerful servants but their weakness is falling down cliffs or something 💀

@michaelwhitney8326 Год назад

Also please do make another video on the powers of Balrogs, they’re evil, but so awesome!

@dragonchr15 Год назад

Is there any more to be added??

@michaelwhitney8326 Год назад

@@dragonchr15 I was thinking specifics on things like whether or not, they can teleport through fire and shadow like they did in the Peter Jackson interpretation, whether or not they can fly, whether or not they can breathe fire, things like that.

@oguzhanenescetin5702 Год назад

@@michaelwhitney8326 Even without wings every single Maia has the power of flight. They can teleport before being stuck in bodies which is interesting as we dont know a timeline where they werent corrupted/stuck They cant breath fire but they can throw fire bolts. I remember reading it in the Fall of Gondolin

@captivatednightshade1432 Год назад

❤❤❤️‍🔥 It's been a while but I hope you all have a wonderful Easter!

@VoiceoftheRings Год назад

Amazing!!! Nice Video matt!

@amarniel Год назад

I actually liked LOTRO's theory that Third Age Gothmog was actually Earnur after he was tortured in the Black Land, following him answering the Witch King's taunt. The story in The Black Book of Mordor quest line is very beautifully written.